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#7 - toxicblackwolf (11/06/2013) [-]
**toxicblackwolf rolled a random image posted in comment #6 at Eye drop ** I see the problem. He's using a Mac.
#14 to #7 - itsmewaffle ONLINE (11/06/2013) [-]
GOD DAMMIT WHY
GOD DAMMIT WHY
User avatar #36 to #7 - hazardpay (11/07/2013) [-]
NO! **** , NO. HELL, MOTHER, ******* , NOPE!
#1 - mudkipfucker (11/06/2013) [-]
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User avatar #6 to #1 - huehuehuepster (11/06/2013) [-]
woah very chaos-theory-eske
and also: #ThanksObama
User avatar #2 - giveupnow (11/06/2013) [-]
Only like 480 people signed up for it the first day.
#3 to #2 - gertoja (11/06/2013) [-]
Only 6 signed up on healthcare.gov
User avatar #10 to #8 - IamWhoIam (11/06/2013) [-]
It's the "Affordable" Care Act, not free care act. Fool.
User avatar #13 to #10 - noblexfenrir (11/06/2013) [-]
Surprisingly a good portion of citizens don't know that, they are under the impression it is incredibly cheap or free.
#5 - dafogman (11/06/2013) [-]
May as well go for a jog instead.
May as well go for a jog instead.
#18 to #5 - zerith (11/06/2013) [-]
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User avatar #32 - tonyxx (11/07/2013) [-]
I personally love the Idea of universal healthcare in America, but obamacare is simply not going to work, it still relies on the private medical insurance industry to function in it's current capacity, and adding to it will only make the inevitable transition into universal healthcare reform even more difficult.
User avatar #4 - granodd (11/06/2013) [-]
Love the double entandre. Could mean that signing up for it is death, or that they waited so long for the site to load that they died.
#11 - Rascal (11/06/2013) [-]
Universal healthcare is ******* stupid. Obama's way of doing it is terrible. It's going to hurt a lot more people than it helps. The big million dollar company's will be fine but the small local business are ****** . They are barely making a profit as it is and now you want them to spend even more? I'm not even going to say people COULD lose their jobs, people WILL lose their jobs over this. It's a fact. Also a lot of people will loose a lot of hours. If the minimum is 30 hours a week in order to receive this benefit, they'll only work 29. But let's talk about why I'm against universal health care in general. I'm 20 and actually pay taxes unlike some of the younger people on this site. I don't want my money to go to some drug addict so he can go to the doctor after destroying his body. I don't want to pay for some alcoholics liver transplant. I wont pay for someone who's been smoking their whole life to receive lung cancer treatments. **** that. You ruined your own damn life.
User avatar #23 to #11 - mrtrixreturned (11/06/2013) [-]
Why will the small local business suffer ?
#25 to #11 - Fronk (11/06/2013) [-]
Your the Same anon that rage over United States Foreign Policies and Copy Pasted the same part, so let me copy paste you my respond in case you dint get it last time.

"Ok... lets try to be civil.
So this for the AMERICAN People meaning that no citizen will get left behind weather good or bad, also on healthcare there is some rules behind a person has to work a set amount of hours to and than the company that they work for will pay for their health care, this leading to some very good things but also bad like for big corporation that pay really low income while making billions will be able to afford this but small corporations like home own business will have a trouble time keeping up with this because Healthcare is really expensive.

Now, on your view of foreign relations lets take study.
When Radical Islamic people overthrew their government they were able to harbor Terrorist Organizations in their countries which led to the 9/11 attacks, now that is why we support the Mexican government against Cartels also to prevent drug trafficking, its just not us bud, manny people and countries participate on this try to do some reasearch and you can see how A LOT Of countries support the rebel cause and a lot of countries support the Regime IT IS NOT JUST US SUPPORTING this."
User avatar #26 to #25 - Fronk (11/07/2013) [-]
Now thats What I replied, What you Originally said Was
"Syria can go **** itself. I live in the USA, not Syria. What happens over there does not impact me directly in any way. We have our own **** to deal with, let them deal with their own god damn problems. Also why the **** is it always the USA's responsibility to do **** like this? Last time I checked we weren't the only 1st world country capable of helping. Why not Spain? Britain? Russia? Any other country can do something for once.

But while i'm at it, let's talk about universal healthcare. I ******* hate this idea. I'm 20 and actually pay taxes unlike some of the younger people on this site. I don't want my money to go to some crack head so he can go see the doctor after ******* his life up. I don't want to pay for some alcoholic's liver transplant. I don't want to pay for someone's lung cancer treatments who has been smoking almost their entire life. **** that. You destroyed y our body and now you deal with it. I'm not helping you continue your ****** decision making life."

So you dont Understand, foreign affairs, Obamacare, even when people try to explain it to you.
Do even more reasearch
pls.
#27 to #11 - heathledgerisagod (11/07/2013) [-]
Just so you know, you are already paying for those people you hate to receive heathcare. Because they don't have universal healthcare, they choose not to go to the doctor knowing they can't afford it straight from their own pocket. So, they wait, and they don't get better, and then, when there's an emergency, they have to go to emergency care. Now, even if they can't pay, the hospital is required to spend all this time trying to get them to pay, in addition to the actual cost of saving their lives. Then, that huge unpaid bill gets dumped on the people actually paying healthcare. So, you're going to have to pay for them anyway. This way, after a while, everybody's chipping in, everyone has to pay less, and people are healthier in general. Here's a video for explaining it further, and another one by the same person shows him signing up for Obamacare and the simplicity of it compared with private insurance companies.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjGouBmo0M
#59 to #11 - funnytime (11/09/2013) [-]
All I read: "Go die in a pit, leecher, since its ur fault genetic caused cancer is common in ur family und you have a badly paied job! Every single person in the world should get a well paid job and stop whining about help, so everyone can buy healthcare on there own. Just have a look in the newspaper, there are many jobs. I give most my money to you, thats not fair at all. If you are dumb, handycaped or just unlucky and cannot get a well paid job because of it, you deserve to die."   
My thought: "U srs?"
All I read: "Go die in a pit, leecher, since its ur fault genetic caused cancer is common in ur family und you have a badly paied job! Every single person in the world should get a well paid job and stop whining about help, so everyone can buy healthcare on there own. Just have a look in the newspaper, there are many jobs. I give most my money to you, thats not fair at all. If you are dumb, handycaped or just unlucky and cannot get a well paid job because of it, you deserve to die."
My thought: "U srs?"
#12 to #11 - lolollo (11/06/2013) [-]
Then why don't you move somewhere that uses the better form of healthcare you want?

oh wait...
#15 to #12 - Rascal (11/06/2013) [-]
I'd rather stop them from doing it here. Those scumbags do not deserve free healthcare.
User avatar #16 to #15 - lolollo (11/06/2013) [-]
The point I was getting at is that the United States is one of those only countries that would have to transition to "free" healthcare, yet we're far from the only country to be considered "civilized." If other countries can survive with this system of healthcare, then it's safe to assume the world isn't going to end just because we're switching healthcare systems.
#22 to #16 - Rascal (11/06/2013) [-]
I do not want to help the scum of society in any way. They do not deserve it. Let them die and suffer.
#37 to #22 - lolollo (11/07/2013) [-]
Then you don't deserve to be a part of the human race. No one is telling you to sacrifice your life for these people, but if all anyone cares about is themselves without any regard for potentially helping anyone else under the guise of ignorant justifications, then it's no wonder we live in such a ****** up world.

First someone gets ****** over by their job, and then they stay there because some ignorant assholes thinks it's because he's lazy, or a degenerate. Right now, the Catholic church has the makings of a more decent human being than you do.

The catholic church!

Seriously, let that seep in a bit.
#44 to #37 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
I'm fine with helping the guy who has been working at a grocery store for 20 years who tripped and fell in the street breaking his leg. He can't afford to fix it. I'll help him out. I will not help out an alcoholic or drug addict. If you find a way to exclude people like that from getting the treatment then i'll support health care. Until then, those people can go **** themselves.
User avatar #47 to #44 - lolollo (11/07/2013) [-]
Your issue, though, is that you wouldn't be able to distinguish between the addicts, and the good honest people who have had life **** them in the ass, so you just assume everyone's an addict. With that mentality, those fine people you'd want to support continue being ****** in the ass without the chance for any help.
#52 to #47 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
The drug addict actually does drugs. That's the difference. They have a history of drug use. It shows up on blood tests and **** . We'll know from their medical history.
User avatar #54 to #52 - lolollo (11/07/2013) [-]
Ohho yes, because we all have the superpower to know whether a person does drugs just by looking at them on the street...
#55 to #54 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
We're talking about the government covering them or not... not just you or me looking and saying no. The government would know. They will have tests and arrest records. They'll know whether to refuse these people or not.
User avatar #35 to #22 - thewaronbeingcool (11/07/2013) [-]
Did someone wake up on the edgy side of the bed today?
#46 to #35 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
You guys just love to overuse that word don't you? Some people have more extreme political views than others.
User avatar #48 to #46 - thewaronbeingcool (11/07/2013) [-]
I think what is essentially an endorsement of eugenics could be considered 'edgy'.

Maybe a little bit.
#53 to #48 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
Funny you should mention eugenics. I wrote a paper last semester for my criminology class and I mentioned eugenics in it. I actually do support it in ways.
User avatar #38 to #22 - jakecrafted (11/07/2013) [-]
"I do not want to help the scum of society in any way", you're the scum of society, unwilling to help your fellow man because you think they chose the life they live.
#41 to #38 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
They did choose that life. No one take heroin, put it into a needle, stabbed the person with the needle, and injected it into the person's veins. They made a continuous decision to destroy their body.
User avatar #43 to #41 - jakecrafted (11/07/2013) [-]
Or you know, they developed a life threatening cancer and they can't afford to treat it, and the thing about heroin is one accidental mistake due to peer pressure and you could be hooked, what you're saying is one mistake and they should be thrown off ship, rather than pay a few more tax dollars to save someones life.
#45 to #43 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
I went to highschool. I've been there with the "peer pressure". It's about self control. Freshmen in highschool hanging out with a bunch of seniors. Of course I would want to be cool and accepted right? Every single one of them was smoking cigarettes. I declined their offers. Offers, meaning multiple chances to look cool and fit in. Peer pressure is an excuse and not real. People need self control. They did not make a mistake. A mistake is knocking over a glass of water. They made a conscious decision to destroy their body. No one made them do it, they decided to themselves.
User avatar #49 to #45 - jakecrafted (11/07/2013) [-]
Your logic is so flawed, "peer pressure doesn't exist", yes it does, societal pressures are a very important part of human development, it is built into our behavior to go along with the group. Besides, that was just one example, say for example someone decides they want to turn over a new leaf, get clean, without proper facilities and help, you can die from withdraw, would you not help them in that situation?
#51 to #49 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
Don't start doing a drug in the first place. Have some ******* self control like I said.
User avatar #56 to #51 - jakecrafted (11/07/2013) [-]
Everyone makes mistakes, everyone, no exceptions, you should not be punished for making a mistake, you should learn from it, making it so becoming addicted to a drug is a death sentence, we as a society should be past this point where if you cant afford to get help you're thrown out on the street to die.
#19 to #11 - bobbinzz (11/06/2013) [-]
"Universal healthcare is 			*******		 stupid."
"Universal healthcare is ******* stupid."

#21 to #19 - Rascal (11/06/2013) [-]
How about you actually explain why you think that's wrong instead of just calling me stupid?
#24 to #21 - bobbinzz (11/06/2013) [-]
Health is a right not a privilege. Universal healthcare provides the best and fairest means of achieving this.
#31 to #24 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
It is not a right. If you choose to destroy your body then so be it. I wont help you pay for your medical treatments. Go pass out in a gutter somewhere you crack head.
#34 to #31 - bobbinzz (11/07/2013) [-]
There are some conditions that occur when people haven't chosen to "destroy their bodies." It's a matter of fairness.
#40 to #34 - Rascal (11/07/2013) [-]
It's not fair that I have to pain for a chain smokers lung cancer treatment. **** that. Die a painful death you piece of **** .
#58 to #40 - bobbinzz (11/07/2013) [-]
you're missing the bigger picture here and being very narrow-minded in your view of what healthcare actually covers.
#20 to #19 - flyslasher (11/06/2013) [-]
"I think I know but really, I don't."
User avatar #42 - spamalope (11/07/2013) [-]
Well how well do you expect a website to work when there are thousands upon thousands of people trying to access it at the same time
User avatar #50 to #42 - defender (11/07/2013) [-]
If Facebook can deal with a **** ton of visitors pretty sure obamacare website should be able to handle it
#29 - notafunnyguy (11/07/2013) [-]
i find it funny how obama tagged his name to it as a way to keep his name relevent if he isnt re-elected. you can tell he has a business degree lol
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