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#27 - anonasuser (07/29/2014) [-]
physical atctivity
#57 to #27 - totalynotxewi (07/30/2014) [-]
why did I think of a couple of AT-XX having activities togheter?
User avatar #216 to #27 - animationhac (07/30/2014) [-]
spelling bees is a sport too. so is chess.
User avatar #231 to #27 - itrinx (07/30/2014) [-]
Thanks for pointing that out.
inb4 landwhales playing Esports asking the whole world to call them sportmen.
User avatar #233 to #27 - itrinx (07/30/2014) [-]
And god ******* damn it OP's trying to show that there's no actual difference but Starcraft is a mental sport, american football a physical one. Nuff said.
#128 to #27 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
im sure even an amateur starcraft player has more actions per minute than a pro football player
#132 to #27 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
mental activity is where it's at, scrublord.
User avatar #67 to #27 - magicalsteve (07/30/2014) [-]
You've never played starcraft
#176 to #27 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
Yeah, in the off season I spend all my time doing finger lifts.
It's hard to keep up 300 APM.
#1 - anon (07/29/2014) [-]
the only difference is that starcraft is international
#116 to #1 - kantushugger (07/30/2014) [-]
Also the physical activity part
User avatar #146 to #1 - drummerperson ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
And Asian, don't forget that they're Asian.
#268 to #1 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
So is football, now american football on the other hand not
#3 to #1 - kulamia (07/29/2014) [-]
South Korea really cares about SC2.

US, Canada, Australia play some version of Football(not including rugby). That's about 3x the Starcraft audience.
User avatar #12 to #3 - lyiat ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
There are hundreds of pro teams from America and Europe, in the dozens for nearly every country. It's crazy popular. Just because you don't personally frequent it doesn't mean the audience isn't goddamn massive.

And it goes beyond Starcraft. DOTA 2 just had an audience and prize pool that beat out the friggin' Superbowl.
User avatar #73 to #12 - skubasteve (07/30/2014) [-]
Going to need a source for this one. The audience of the Superbowl sits at about 111 million viewers.
User avatar #244 to #73 - ritzyhellcat (07/30/2014) [-]
Not viewers, money that the winning team earned. Dunno what the superbowl does, but Valve drops a **** ton of money into worlds.
User avatar #311 to #244 - skubasteve (07/30/2014) [-]
He said Audience. And award money. The superbowel audience is 111 million and growing. The payout for winning the superbowel is 5.8 million to the sea hawks last year. I highly doubt Valve is handing out that type of cash.
User avatar #317 to #311 - ritzyhellcat (07/31/2014) [-]
According to the official DotA 2 website the current prize pool is around 10 million. Valve is rolling in it.
#14 to #12 - kulamia (07/29/2014) [-]
I see where you're coming from, but every year the US Superbowl (usually) makes history as the most televised event(sad in my opinion as the Moon Landing was less popular, even with fewer TVs), and every 4 years FIFA world cup explodes.

Starcraft tournaments are huge in Korea, and I don't doubt in the slightest that it is a major thing to many people from all over the world. But at the same time here I have heard all about MLG tournaments for Call of Duty and Battlefield, yet nothing about Starcraft tournaments. I have heard about other RPG tournaments, but not SC2 in particular.
User avatar #56 to #12 - captchakid (07/30/2014) [-]
League's LCS beat that out though.
User avatar #124 to #56 - oceanfrank (07/30/2014) [-]
nah DotA's TI tournament beats out World Champs for league in prize/money pool but Worlds has more champs. WC3 I think had 500k viewers. Supposedly this year it'll reach perhaps 1 mil. Putting my money on Samsung Blue. Maybe White if Pawn can play like I know he can.
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User avatar #162 to #161 - oceanfrank (07/30/2014) [-]
500k on twitch*
User avatar #167 to #162 - captchakid (07/30/2014) [-]
Yes on twitch: "Season 3 World Championship broadcast over Twitch livestream on October 4, was watched by 32 million people, 8.5 million of whom were watching at the same time."
User avatar #169 to #167 - oceanfrank (07/30/2014) [-]
shiiiiiiiiet. I guess the viewer count doesnt go higher than like 500k then.
User avatar #172 to #169 - captchakid (07/30/2014) [-]
Also prizes were:
1- 1mil
2- 250k
3- 150k
4- 150k

3/4th places tied.
User avatar #171 to #169 - captchakid (07/30/2014) [-]
User avatar #160 to #124 - captchakid (07/30/2014) [-]
LoL's world champs in 2013 had 33 million viewers.
#58 - nthmetal (07/30/2014) [-]
User avatar #259 to #58 - schmuxy (07/30/2014) [-]
All the other distances are just judgemental, but this one I'll take.
#71 - dawgfan (07/30/2014) [-]
Horrible example of a football stadium, it looks like a high school

Better example
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#226 to #71 - drinpa ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
#165 to #71 - lplplplp (07/30/2014) [-]
A proper football stadium
User avatar #190 to #165 - meganinja (07/30/2014) [-]
The content was about American football douchebag.
#201 to #190 - lplplplp (07/30/2014) [-]
Yeah it was a joke "douchebag".
User avatar #203 to #201 - meganinja (07/30/2014) [-]
Hard to tell when there's so many people who say that seriously.

Like that one guy who keeps making the frontpage saying he'll sue FJ. You wouldn't know he was joking about it if it weren't for the fact that he's using Funnyjunk as an example.
#206 to #203 - lplplplp (07/30/2014) [-]
Well you was taking it too seriously
User avatar #209 to #206 - meganinja (07/30/2014) [-]
People being smart asses and taking things out of context is my pet peeve.
#274 to #165 - freepotatoe (07/30/2014) [-]
This one is better ;)
#153 to #71 - joeymroux (07/30/2014) [-]
That's not even a pro game though.
Still probably larger than any other pro stadium
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#29 - bothemastaofall (07/29/2014) [-]
Pro video game teams are so stupid.
Seriously you wannabe edge queers you're playing video games for a living. Smile in your team pictures.
Can't help but laugh every time I see pics like this.
#232 to #29 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
You need to login to view this link used to smilie a lot, I think they were told not to
#237 to #29 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
True, but that 6 figure salary is pretty sweet.
#249 to #29 - lankyman (07/30/2014) [-]
World cup of armfolding tbh, professional athletes look stupid when trying to look bad ass.
#250 to #249 - lankyman (07/30/2014) [-]
#281 to #29 - swagbot (07/30/2014) [-]
Going into LaLaLand for a sec... just follow me:

> Trying to be edgy w/ fatboy body, no physical activity and for playing a ******* computer game aside...

The only thing about the 'team-pics' (mainly the more professional and slightly-more-badass-looking Korean one in the OC) that gives me a slight twinkle of inspiration is that it harkens back to the wishes that i had as a kid that we'd have bad-ass 'Super-Sports' by now, that combined the best aspects of IRL games and Videogames. (Think VR-enhanced-IRL battles, Battlebots, Zoids etc )

I think the NFL clowns who act all badass look silly too, just as bad as these MLG autists - as you said... they all play a freakin' game for their living...

But I also i feel like if we had more badass 'Super-Sports', all this Drama that the media tries to pump into our current, lame sports would at last match the awesomeness of the Sport itself, and would then be justified.

#177 to #29 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
but you see
the korean ones make more in one game than you do in a month

#62 to #29 - totalynotxewi (07/30/2014) [-]
They do it for money and fame of course. It doesn't matter what the general opinion of people you will never meet is, whats important is what those people in your "group" think of you. I look up to Alliance The team in the pic for their incredible skill and I really don't really understand why that skill would be less valuable than handeggskills or whatever you like.

I agree on alot of them looks silly since they can be quite geeky, but it's fun and they're often aware of it.
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User avatar #31 to #29 - mypickinuraxe (07/29/2014) [-]
I always thought it was kinda stupid. It's like trying to be cool while playing laser tag.
#49 to #31 - thechosentroll (07/30/2014) [-]
What's the point of laser tag if you don't look cool while doing it?
#225 to #29 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
only that those dudes make a ton of money and **** women. ( I was gonna write better women than you, but since youre a virgin basement dweller that would have meant prettier hands)
User avatar #236 to #29 - licestr (07/30/2014) [-]
They are making more money than you ever will while playing video games, i think they won m8.
#83 to #29 - sbird (07/30/2014) [-]
basically this
#78 to #29 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
Yes, but it is no worse than, nor different from tossing a leather handegg for a living.

The reason both are stupid is their lack of utility in real life. Of course proponents of both sides will argue there are some benefits, but they are marginal and can be completely ignored with the dedication and lack of time leftover that comes with the professional level.

That said, the marginal, non-critical benefits that come with being skilled with and fast on a computer and the type of research involved in video games will soon outweigh those of athleticism if they don't already.
#101 to #78 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
Athletes have their ******* body in good physical shape.
User avatar #221 to #101 - tehfalconguy (07/30/2014) [-]
if you think atheletes aren't usually completely ****** up after they're done in sports you're wrong.
#127 to #101 - rdobet (07/30/2014) [-]
By that logic we should get rid of office jobs.
User avatar #53 to #29 - Lloydles (07/30/2014) [-]
It's advertising sections of sponsors trying to cater to the neckbeard market.

I doubt the players wanna pose like idiots, although some of the will enjoy it i guess.
User avatar #122 to #29 - baditch (07/30/2014) [-]
Honestly though, if they didn't take themselves so seriously I might respect it more as a sport.
User avatar #114 to #29 - onewithpokerface (07/30/2014) [-]
I get that this picture in particular looks like they take themselves too seriously, but you're basically saying "No, you can't have fun with your friends. And you can't make a big deal of your little group even if you're in an international championship."

Come on man, lighten up.
User avatar #123 to #29 - saxplayer (07/30/2014) [-]
"Our moms drove us here!"
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User avatar #54 - thebadspellir (07/30/2014) [-]
Dude, football is most definitely a 7 figure salary sport. Almost every starter (other than kickers, punters, and players still on their rookie contracts) have at least $1mil/year contracts
User avatar #240 to #54 - bettertron (07/30/2014) [-]
Even most kickers and punters are 7 figures. Also some NFLers (Funnly enough the one pictured) make 8 figures.
#247 to #54 - nebraskaom (07/30/2014) [-]
The NFL minimum requires a six figure salary, I doubt that equates for the other side.
#154 - subtard (07/30/2014) [-]
Carefully avoiding one subtle difference...
User avatar #320 to #154 - deepgreen (08/21/2014) [-]
Actually professional brood war players were obliged to do physical exercise. They had their own gym IIRC, there's some famous players who got really build.
User avatar #321 to #154 - deepgreen (08/21/2014) [-]
If you don't believe me, check out this thread.

#170 to #154 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
both are crybaby bitches?
#48 - thechosentroll (07/30/2014) [-]
I have a question that keeps bugging me every time I read comments like these. If it's not a sport unless it requires physical exertion, how come chess, poker and snooker are considered sports?   
Besides, it's not a sport, it's an E-sport. As in, electronic sport. It's the electronic equivalent of a sport, not a sport. It's like saying that an owl is the bird equivalent of a cat, since it's a fluffy ball of seething hatred - you're not saying an owl is a cat, you're saying it's the equivalent.
I have a question that keeps bugging me every time I read comments like these. If it's not a sport unless it requires physical exertion, how come chess, poker and snooker are considered sports?

Besides, it's not a sport, it's an E-sport. As in, electronic sport. It's the electronic equivalent of a sport, not a sport. It's like saying that an owl is the bird equivalent of a cat, since it's a fluffy ball of seething hatred - you're not saying an owl is a cat, you're saying it's the equivalent.
User avatar #61 to #48 - ThatFuckingGuy (07/30/2014) [-]
They're still not sports.
They're games.
User avatar #159 to #61 - iamtheballsack (07/30/2014) [-]
Sports are games...
#51 to #48 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
Literally nobody on the planet with an IQ over -10 considers chess or poker a sport. A sport is defined as competitive physical activity. Poker, chess, snooker, and starcraft are games.
#55 to #51 - thechosentroll (07/30/2014) [-]
Yes, random anon. You just completely disproved my point with a broad generalization, an exaggeration so gross it's literally impossible and a statement with no explanation.

Listen, numbnuts, I'm not saying any of that ****** actual sports. I'm just wondering about how **** like curling is a goddamn olympic event, whereas this **** is disregarded as little games. You've got people watching professional sweeping at the goddamn olympics, yet people can't seem to accept that StarCraft 2, MOBA games and all the e-sports crap can be competitive viewing events.
#74 to #51 - comradewinter ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
Sports used to involve athleticism, now it requires either that, or skill. Hence why poker and chess are also considered sports.

"sport [spawrt, spohrt]: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

So anything competitive that requires skill can be considered a sport. Poker on a professional level contains the ability to read others and the game, chess requires mental ability. ESports need reaction, ability to read players and the game, knowing the mechanics, and a whole bunch of other stuff. There's a lot more football, basketball, and such than just running around.

#210 - exclamation (07/30/2014) [-]
StarCraft on front page, swell with controllable happiness!

I wish I was Korean
#30 - anon (07/29/2014) [-]
Here's some.
Physical effort
Training and Conditioning
Body Mass
Working out
#99 to #30 - finrier ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
Not all sports require a lot of physical effort. I would propose esports is, on average, more mentally challenging than traditional sports, winning or losing comes entirely down to decision making, you can't brute force your way through anything or win because you have a heavier team or can hit harder or have longer reach.

Pro teams train for 10+ hours a day, and not all that time is spent simply playing the game, analyzing past games takes up a lot of time for pro teams.

Salary, most traditional sports have been played at a pro level for decades if not for over a century compared to esports which is only ~15 years old. Not really a good comparison.

Body Mass I think you would be surprised how many pro gamers are just average looking people.

Alot of teams (at least in League of Legends) go to the gym as teams to help with team chemistry and well being, I know in korea physical fitness and well being are incredibly important.

I watch both esports and traditional sports (bball and rugby league mostly)
User avatar #43 to #30 - thechosentroll (07/30/2014) [-]
You ever see how ******* fast their hands move? That **** is effort and physical training and conditioning.
#139 - manbearpiglet (07/30/2014) [-]
Two things.    
The average salary in the NFL is seven figures.   
Green Bay shown...swell with cheese.
Two things.
The average salary in the NFL is seven figures.
Green Bay shown...swell with cheese.
#283 to #139 - avanger (07/30/2014) [-]
Well 5 years ago there wasn't a huge prize for winning games (like dota 2 international = $10,931,105) think about the next 5 years.
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#228 to #139 - anonasuser (07/30/2014) [-]
swell with cheese
as is the american way
User avatar #4 - Nahyon ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
The difference is probably that SC player crowds are also playing the game
#42 to #4 - kilik (07/30/2014) [-]
Can you not play football or something?
User avatar #59 - jcfjr (07/30/2014) [-]
The last one is wrong. The majority of football contracts are for 7 or even 8 figures.
#13 - anon (07/29/2014) [-]
 I had a folder full of artosis, I'm proud of it

I had a folder full of artosis, I'm proud of it
User avatar #147 to #13 - deepgreen (07/30/2014) [-]
this is about brood war, pretty sure artosis never casted games in korea as opposed to nick.
User avatar #213 to #13 - themabymaby (07/30/2014) [-]
dead with flash and bbyong
User avatar #60 - mugenchamploo (07/30/2014) [-]
Whats with the picture of a little league football game at the start?? There are 76,000+ fans at NFL games. The stadiums literally shake from the sound
User avatar #63 to #60 - johnnyiscool (07/30/2014) [-]
And there's constantly drunk people getting into fights and getting kicked out. I went to a game in Atlanta and literally 8 people got kicked out in my section alone. NFL games are ******* crazy.
#72 to #63 - newold (07/30/2014) [-]
but that's all part of the fun
but that's all part of the fun
User avatar #97 to #72 - johnnyiscool (07/30/2014) [-]
I know it. I love it. I've been to several baseball games, several basketball games, and only 1 NFL game, and it had more excitement than all of those games put together
#5 - anon (07/29/2014) [-]
You know and the fact that one is played by athletes and the other is a ******* video game.
#7 to #5 - madoc (07/29/2014) [-]
That still takes a lot of time and skill to get really good at. Your point is...?
User avatar #9 to #5 - lolturtle (07/29/2014) [-]
well technically they are athletes since there is a physical aspect of the game, you have to be able to click fast enough as well as thinking. this is what defines sport from game. game= mind only, sport= mind and body
User avatar #35 to #9 - shadowkingdr ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
thats ******** and you know it, if clicking fast enough makes something a sport that mans chess, tag, freeze tag and ******* dominoes is a sport
User avatar #44 to #35 - doit (07/30/2014) [-]
And what if they are? what people consider a sport now is what is mainstream, **** , all those might be sports in the future if it catches on.
User avatar #45 to #44 - shadowkingdr ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
then if everything is a sport what is a game?
User avatar #217 to #45 - animationhac (07/30/2014) [-]
Football is a game too you know... The physical sports are also games...
User avatar #47 to #45 - doit (07/30/2014) [-]
I dont consider it a sport, im saying it would be considered a sport because it is mainstream. I consider e-sports a sport, it requires mental preparation and dedication to achieve the highest skill level.

Same thing with chess, and isnt chess a sport? I feel like sports arent just physical things and boom thats it... That being said, tag and others dont have much to them, i cant imagine it being fun to watch when everyone is on the same "skill level"
User avatar #88 to #47 - shadowkingdr ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
if you do not have good enough control of your hands you could knock over your king which is a instant loss
User avatar #87 to #35 - lolturtle (07/30/2014) [-]
tag and freeze tag would be a sport, chess could not be as there is no time limit because people can call out the moves with voice, which means no physical fitness is required
#219 to #9 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
They engage in an incredibly competitive activity, I will admit being a professional starcraft player takes as much work and skill as being a professional football player, however, they're not ******* athletes. Clicking is not a goddamned physical aspect, if clicking is a physical aspect then so is moving a piece on a board which means that by your definition there are no games and everything a goddamned sport. An activity can be respected without being labeled a sport, okay, starcraft is not a goddamned sport. Neither is racing, generally I can get over differences but **** you if you say any different, you're as bad as the gender identifying people, it's okay for it not to be a sport, Zeus knows I have no respect for professional athletes as it is so it's not at all an insult or degrading to say that they're not sports, it's just plain incorrect to call them sports when in reality they're not. If starcraft is a sport so is monopoly.
User avatar #218 to #9 - jdistasio (07/30/2014) [-]
"Athlete: noun; plural noun: athletes

a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise."

Profession video gamers are only considered "Professional Athletes," in America, at least, to get work Visas
User avatar #151 to #9 - mikoli (07/30/2014) [-]
clicking is barely physical, i would sooner consider texas hold'em a sport than video games.
#64 to #9 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
really? really? you legitimately want to compare a professional football players athleticism to a person who plays a video game?
#28 - anon (07/29/2014) [-]
This is kinda dumb. I don't play football and I wont pretend to like it, but even I know that joining the NFL is extremely hard. Being a professional athlete requires so much dedication. It's years of hard work. It requires weightlifting, practicing, dieting, and many other things.

To be good at videogames all you really have to do is play videogames. There's no need to physically push yourself. You start doing it because its fun and you keep it up. To be a pro gamer, all you really have to do is play videogames a lot. It's not hard work.

my opinion may seem a little biased but Professional sports and videogames are 2 completely different things and should not be compared.
#93 to #28 - arlyne (07/30/2014) [-]
Speaking as somebody who has been to MLG for Starcraft 2:

Yes, it starts off as a game. You're having fun. When you decide to take it seriously, it becomes much more.

Football players don't practice for 16 hours a day. Starcraft 2 pros do.

Games go for on average about 15-20 minutes each. There's no breaks here, just complete relentless focus. Aside from the first 30 seconds or so of the game, you have to be watching EVERYTHING. Your hands are flying nonstop, and one mistake can lose you the game. That gets extremely taxing on you.

The best players are pushing a key or clicking about 5 times a second. All game. The entire game. They need to consider what needs to be done, and then do it, while taking in information constantly.

While football players suffer far worse injuries, try and find anybody who played starcraft fanatically who hasn't suffered wrist problems.

Starcraft is far more difficult mentally than physically, but it is by no means easy.
User avatar #223 to #28 - tehfalconguy (07/30/2014) [-]
See how long it takes to train to be able to consistently compete at a professional level in ANY game. It takes at LEAST a year to even come CLOSE to the level these guys play at. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not hard as **** .
User avatar #248 to #28 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
"To be a pro gamer, all you really have to do is play videogames a lot. It's not hard work."

Then why aren't you a pro gamer then, if its that easy?

Oh, you forgot about the part where you practice matches some 12 hours per day, everyday, putting quite the strain on your brain since dealing with 300 Actions Per Minute is about as mentally intense as flying a ******* jet fighter
#113 to #28 - anon (07/30/2014) [-]
as an upcoming professional gamer, and former Junior Olympian, football player, and wrestler, i can say that eSports is a real sport. it takes just as much dedication, skill, and talent to become a professional gamer as it would any other professional sport
#32 to #28 - darkrebellion (07/29/2014) [-]
I don't think you realize how hard it is to become an MLG SC2 player. You need to be able to have a crazy high APM (actions per minute.) Like 400. You need to be able to perform 7+ meaningful actions a second, as well as crazy good reflexes.
User avatar #111 to #32 - Agnotizer (07/30/2014) [-]
I don't think you realize how hard it is to be a professional American Football player.
Also, rarely anyone can do 400 APM. APM does not equal skill either. WhiteRa, a professional from Ukraine for SCII, usually averaged around 100-120 APM, and he was fairly successful. Granted the Koreans average a lot like 250-300, so that's extremely high. Do you really think that American Football players do not need crazy reflexes? They are reacting with their whole bodies, not just fingers. I am not even an american football fan, but I think it's ridiculous to say being a MLG Starcraft II gamer is just as difficult as being a professional American Football player.
Then again, when do opinions ever matter?
User avatar #89 - durkadurka ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
Let's not pretend these things are the same.
#76 - leroyjenkinstheman (07/30/2014) [-]
I love how the people are comparing APM to being in NFL condition. A defensive lineman benched 225 lbs 36 times in the combine, and that's a college player trying to get into the NFL. Anyone who has really trained knows that theres no comparison.
User avatar #193 to #76 - Sethorein ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
>Implying that just anyone can match the skill required to play professional games well.

All the mental conditioning of chess, with the added pressure of the fact that it's not turn based and you need to have excellent timing for important plays...

It ain't easy.
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