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Carmina Band I
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angrybiscuitsss (10/21/2015) [-] im kinda impressed TBH. usually fan art cards are complete **** .... these ones not only look cool but actually have abiltitys that can be used by wizzards of the coast.... well done my friend
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mastercolossus [OP](10/22/2015) [-]
gotta pay for the cost. not for free and if you dont cast it then it stays exiled.
im a level 1 judge.
im a level 1 judge.
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bananaforlife (10/22/2015) [-] okay, yeah, that makes more sense, I misread it and thought it just returned from exile. That is pretty balanced then
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amuzen (10/22/2015) [-]
I'm thinking the way Ion cannon should work is it should be more like
6/2, defender, first strike, can block creatures with space flight.
I think that would be a better representative of an anti space cannon since it's big thing should be more that it would shoot **** out of the sky before it had a chance to do any damage rather than being a meaty wall that sits in front of you.
Also I hate space flight in general, it's just flying with absolutely no changes, at least intimidate and shadow had some variation from flying but space flight is just a word for word a copy of flying.
6/2, defender, first strike, can block creatures with space flight.
I think that would be a better representative of an anti space cannon since it's big thing should be more that it would shoot **** out of the sky before it had a chance to do any damage rather than being a meaty wall that sits in front of you.
Also I hate space flight in general, it's just flying with absolutely no changes, at least intimidate and shadow had some variation from flying but space flight is just a word for word a copy of flying.
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gotthembarrels (10/22/2015) [-] It's a word for word copy of Shadow, actually. Not flying.
#48
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traelos (10/22/2015) [-] I stopped reading when an X-Wing was 2/2 but a Womp Rat was 3/4 with Monstrosity.
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sirsolo (10/22/2015) [-] >Droids having colours
>Starships having colours
>All Sith not being black
>Jedi not being inherently blue
yeah, autism
>Starships having colours
>All Sith not being black
>Jedi not being inherently blue
yeah, autism
#56 to #47
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Kingsly (10/22/2015) [-]
Artifact creatures can have colors. The droids could be designed for a special environment, hence the color, or just exhibit ties to a group that are sufficient to give them a color.
Yeah, I don't have anything on starships, I think they're just color to match types.
Sith are anyone who gives in to emotion, meaning black, red, blue [manipulation] are appropriate.
Jedi are controlled and controlling, making white [peacekeeping] and blue appropriate. I could maybe see green, but that's because of the mysticism that usually comes along with green.
Yeah, I don't have anything on starships, I think they're just color to match types.
Sith are anyone who gives in to emotion, meaning black, red, blue [manipulation] are appropriate.
Jedi are controlled and controlling, making white [peacekeeping] and blue appropriate. I could maybe see green, but that's because of the mysticism that usually comes along with green.
#63 to #56
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pronphisherman (10/22/2015) [-] I agree with your assessment starships having a color is a bit odd but aligning with the color of their "pilot" or just for effects that match their flavor ie a red starship has haste. Really though the only thing I'd want out of this set is to play some mono green wookie tribal.
Seriously, where are my wookies at?
Seriously, where are my wookies at?
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Kingsly (10/23/2015) [-]
That makes sense, I could also see them aligned so that the abilities can't be cast from a deck where the colors don't fit.
-A red black deck built to have red starships ping the enemy for like 1&tap or 1r&tap so that you can combo hate.
For green I could also see something come up like an Ewok token & sacrifice combo. Make a dozen furry little bastards and send them on a suicide mission.
-A red black deck built to have red starships ping the enemy for like 1&tap or 1r&tap so that you can combo hate.
For green I could also see something come up like an Ewok token & sacrifice combo. Make a dozen furry little bastards and send them on a suicide mission.
#26
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wilburn (10/22/2015) [-] 10/10, thumb/fav, im going to print these on card stock and play with them haha, maybe make a star-wars cube but do you have source to wheres there more
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anon (10/22/2015) [-]
Keyboardist may be too much. Repeatable draw power on an early game creature is a dangerous thing. Spaceflight may also be a poor idea; having too many mechanics the same (flying, shadow, now spaceflight) just makes for unnecessary complications.
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] and also like 80 bucks, my friend has a lot of college scholarship money left over, he built a new standard deck that cost more than my modern and commander combined
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] my other poorer friend calls his deck Temurder, it runs assault formation as its main mechanic
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] yeah m8, only thing he's worried about is enchantment hate, it shuts him down hard
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zoho (10/22/2015) [-] Understandable. Other temur decks can destroy him. Stubborn Denial and simple removal would pepsi him like a *********** .
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] yeah, I quit standard after dragons came out, and my kolaghan deck just got the **** stick when it came to dash
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] i started focusing on commander, you might look into it as an alternative to the meta game types
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] i prefer red goblins due to how cheap it is, a highly competitive deck costs under $150 dollars and i made mine for less than 70, its fun to play around with
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drtrousersnake (10/22/2015) [-] my goblin deck would be around that range but i put in 4 guides then threw in 2 blood moons in the sideboard. My brother hates the deck because i usually win by turn 4. Legion Loyalists is probably the most broken card in his opinion.
Turn 1 guide: swing for 2
Turn 2 guide, loyalist: swing for 5, first strike/trample
Turn 3 chieften: swing swing for 10, first strike/trample
Turn 4 double piledriver, swing for 34, first strike/trample
so 51 total damage they have to deal via either removal or beefy blockers with by their 3rd turn if I go first. I also run 4 bolts and 2-3 goblin grenades as my removal/extra damage.
Turn 1 guide: swing for 2
Turn 2 guide, loyalist: swing for 5, first strike/trample
Turn 3 chieften: swing swing for 10, first strike/trample
Turn 4 double piledriver, swing for 34, first strike/trample
so 51 total damage they have to deal via either removal or beefy blockers with by their 3rd turn if I go first. I also run 4 bolts and 2-3 goblin grenades as my removal/extra damage.
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iamrexraptor (10/22/2015) [-] its a blue version of rummaging goblin, the goblin costs one more, but its not really that big of a deal
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#59
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aejann (10/22/2015) [-] Meditate just isn't viable, IMO. There are so many other cheap, efficient ways to abuse ETB abilities without spending mana to return it and casting again, all at sorcery speed.
A more Jedi-like ability would be rewarding you for choosing a non-violent approach, managing your resources, and only striking when you need to. Note: it shouldn't be stalling, it should be controlling. You're building up to a big finisher, and you're smaller creatures should reward you for playing defensively while you do so. For example:
Austere Master {2WW}
Creature - Human Jedi
First strike
Serene-- At the beginning of your end step, if you did not attack this turn, you may destroy target enchantment.
4/2
All Jedi would have decent combat abilities, but choosing not to use them would net you an advantage, and you would always have the option to simply go on the offensive. It would force you to think "Should I attack now or wait for a better opening?" and I feel that is a better mindset for a Jedi deck.
Repair is also too abuse-able. Being able to repeatedly cast artifacts for free causes way too many shenanigans. Exiling them and returning the to the hand is more appropriate. Flavor-wise, it puts the back at the 'base', ready to be redeployed. They aren't repaired in the middle of the battlefield, after all. They would give you card advantage without making your forces unbeatable. You'd still have to invest the mana to play them again, but it makes it less profitable for your opponent to remove your robots.
A more Jedi-like ability would be rewarding you for choosing a non-violent approach, managing your resources, and only striking when you need to. Note: it shouldn't be stalling, it should be controlling. You're building up to a big finisher, and you're smaller creatures should reward you for playing defensively while you do so. For example:
Austere Master {2WW}
Creature - Human Jedi
First strike
Serene-- At the beginning of your end step, if you did not attack this turn, you may destroy target enchantment.
4/2
All Jedi would have decent combat abilities, but choosing not to use them would net you an advantage, and you would always have the option to simply go on the offensive. It would force you to think "Should I attack now or wait for a better opening?" and I feel that is a better mindset for a Jedi deck.
Repair is also too abuse-able. Being able to repeatedly cast artifacts for free causes way too many shenanigans. Exiling them and returning the to the hand is more appropriate. Flavor-wise, it puts the back at the 'base', ready to be redeployed. They aren't repaired in the middle of the battlefield, after all. They would give you card advantage without making your forces unbeatable. You'd still have to invest the mana to play them again, but it makes it less profitable for your opponent to remove your robots.
#60 to #59
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aejann (10/22/2015) [-] Also, Spaceflight suffers from the same issues as horsemanship; it's just flying with a different name. Sending in unblockable spaceships to attack one person doesn't feel like a space battle. They should be fighting other spaceships, and if your opponents don't have spaceships, they're laying waste to the armies on the ground, not coming in for a measly one or two damage to one enemy. I'd change it so that they don't quite function as creatures, more like artillery that fights other creatures and spaceships. Anti-spaceship weapons could function in this way as well.
#53
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personz ONLINE (10/22/2015) [-] I'm not a real expert, I've just played too much mtg, but this is what I thought as I went through the list:
Desert Trooper- Should it be white? Vigilance is very white, but I'm not sure Storm Troopers should be considering the lore. It may also be more balanced at cmc 3, depends on how many troopers there will be to play.
Security Droid- would probably be better colorless than white.
Preordain- too powerful, draw a card usually costs 2, and this also has the scry. 1U would probably be more balanced.
Vapor Snag- 1U instead.
Cloaking Device- I'm not sure, Aqueous Form Exists, but dealing an additional unpreventable damage each attack makes me want to make this card 1U.
Force Denial- Potentially confusing wording, I first read it as hate counters the spell that dealt noncombat damage instead of countering the same target as before. I recommend changing it from "That spell" to "target spell"
Force Meditation- just a better Divination. Not sure if that's OK or not.
Desert Trooper- Should it be white? Vigilance is very white, but I'm not sure Storm Troopers should be considering the lore. It may also be more balanced at cmc 3, depends on how many troopers there will be to play.
Security Droid- would probably be better colorless than white.
Preordain- too powerful, draw a card usually costs 2, and this also has the scry. 1U would probably be more balanced.
Vapor Snag- 1U instead.
Cloaking Device- I'm not sure, Aqueous Form Exists, but dealing an additional unpreventable damage each attack makes me want to make this card 1U.
Force Denial- Potentially confusing wording, I first read it as hate counters the spell that dealt noncombat damage instead of countering the same target as before. I recommend changing it from "That spell" to "target spell"
Force Meditation- just a better Divination. Not sure if that's OK or not.
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pronphisherman (10/22/2015) [-] Desert trooper is pretty clearly white and compares quite well to sentinel sliver which is the same cost stats and effect except of course it affects slivers.
Security droid would be fine as colorless.
preordain is a reprint, it is too powerful hence why it is banned in modern but cantrips for U are incredibly common and typically getting some small effect in addition scry, mill, look at a players hand etc if you're paying to for that sort of card you're paying to much.
Vapor snag is a reprint, its an unsummon with a bit more if you use it on an opponents creature its an upside if you use it on your creature its a downside; the card is fair.
Cloaking device is pretty much a better aqueous form and that already compares well with other enchants that give unblockable if you're going for a faster kill the damage is clearly better 1U for the cost would probably be fair.
The wording on force denial is in the format that most additional condition or cost cards are worded see for example the very similar silumgar's scorn.
Force meditation is pretty darn good it compares well to cards like compulsive research and thirst for knowledge though it is less conditional it might be slightly undercosted but it seems ok to me.
TLDR: comparing cards to existing cards makes these cards seem pretty normal.
Security droid would be fine as colorless.
preordain is a reprint, it is too powerful hence why it is banned in modern but cantrips for U are incredibly common and typically getting some small effect in addition scry, mill, look at a players hand etc if you're paying to for that sort of card you're paying to much.
Vapor snag is a reprint, its an unsummon with a bit more if you use it on an opponents creature its an upside if you use it on your creature its a downside; the card is fair.
Cloaking device is pretty much a better aqueous form and that already compares well with other enchants that give unblockable if you're going for a faster kill the damage is clearly better 1U for the cost would probably be fair.
The wording on force denial is in the format that most additional condition or cost cards are worded see for example the very similar silumgar's scorn.
Force meditation is pretty darn good it compares well to cards like compulsive research and thirst for knowledge though it is less conditional it might be slightly undercosted but it seems ok to me.
TLDR: comparing cards to existing cards makes these cards seem pretty normal.
#51
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tytanhavok (10/22/2015) [-] WTF put Sanctuary Cat in space and it could kick TIE Interceptor's ass
#43
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xxragnarokxx (10/22/2015) [-]
Portals: Star Wars would be legit but where the **** are my red cards? 5 color troopers all the way lol
