N-word. the word is .. The question is this. "If both of them are racial slurs, then why is one considered to be worse than the other?" niggerword
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User avatar #2 - thelastamerican (01/23/2014) [-]
The question is this. "If both of them are racial slurs, then why is one considered to be worse than the other?"
User avatar #4 to #2 - TARDIS (01/24/2014) [-]
Because wight people where never hung for trying to vote.

Or arrested for waiting for a bus.
User avatar #6 to #4 - sirlancealotofhoes (01/24/2014) [-]
None of the people discussed did or were subjected to that, so why should it matter to the discussion?
User avatar #7 to #6 - TARDIS (01/24/2014) [-]
The arrested for waiting for a bus was recent.

But I can see how you might think that was in the 50's.
User avatar #8 to #7 - sirlancealotofhoes (01/24/2014) [-]
That doesn't matter. White people did not do that, individuals did. The people in the discussion isn't talking for all white/black people.
User avatar #10 to #8 - TARDIS (01/24/2014) [-]
What I'm saying is the 'N-word' represents decriminalization, which is still very prevalent in U.S. society.

And while there are some cases of decriminalization against wight people, it is not nearly as common or damaging.
I would be like comparing the Japanese camps the U.S. had during WWII to the concentration camps the NAZIs.
#13 to #10 - xbyronx ONLINE (01/24/2014) [-]
All races kept slaves all throughout history.   
Most of the American slaveships and American slave-markets were run by Jews. But no one blames modern Jews. Because if anyone today says anything was “run by Jews”, they’re immediately dismissed as a crazy anti-Semite, regardless of whether or not it’s true.   
When the Trans-Atlantic slaveships docked at African slave-markets to buy slaves, they bought slaves who were already slaves. It was Arab Muslims and Black Africans themselves who captured members of rival tribes and took them to the coastal slave-markets to sell to the Whites and Jews. White people didn’t go into Africa and kidnap free black people. They barely needed to get off their ships to buy slaves, it was like buying McDonalds at a drive-through. The slaves were already at the slave-market in chains,  ready to go.   
In the 16th – 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, particularly the British Isles but even as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant.   
Native Americans and Jews owned Black slaves too, but no one seems to assign a collective guilt to modern Native Americans and Jews for their slavery. In fact, Jews were the biggest slave-owners in America per capita.   
Whites were the first people to stop slavery in modern times, whereas slavery still continues in Africa to this day. In Mauritania slavery was only made a punishable offense in 2007!   
Less than 2% of Whites in America ever owned slaves   
Only 5% of the black slaves transported across the Atlantic actually went to the modern U.S. Most in fact went to Latin America to serve Hispanic slave-owners. But we don’t look at modern Hispanics as evil slave-owners.
All races kept slaves all throughout history.
Most of the American slaveships and American slave-markets were run by Jews. But no one blames modern Jews. Because if anyone today says anything was “run by Jews”, they’re immediately dismissed as a crazy anti-Semite, regardless of whether or not it’s true.
When the Trans-Atlantic slaveships docked at African slave-markets to buy slaves, they bought slaves who were already slaves. It was Arab Muslims and Black Africans themselves who captured members of rival tribes and took them to the coastal slave-markets to sell to the Whites and Jews. White people didn’t go into Africa and kidnap free black people. They barely needed to get off their ships to buy slaves, it was like buying McDonalds at a drive-through. The slaves were already at the slave-market in chains, ready to go.
In the 16th – 18th century, Africans enslaved 1.5 million White Europeans in the Barbary Slave Trade. African Muslims raided up the coastlines of Europe, particularly the British Isles but even as far as Iceland, kidnapping and enslaving White European Christians. The men were galley slaves, and the women were sex slaves. This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant.
Native Americans and Jews owned Black slaves too, but no one seems to assign a collective guilt to modern Native Americans and Jews for their slavery. In fact, Jews were the biggest slave-owners in America per capita.
Whites were the first people to stop slavery in modern times, whereas slavery still continues in Africa to this day. In Mauritania slavery was only made a punishable offense in 2007!
Less than 2% of Whites in America ever owned slaves
Only 5% of the black slaves transported across the Atlantic actually went to the modern U.S. Most in fact went to Latin America to serve Hispanic slave-owners. But we don’t look at modern Hispanics as evil slave-owners.
User avatar #12 to #10 - sirlancealotofhoes (01/24/2014) [-]
A single word only represents the meaning that an individual chooses to empower it with. The only reason that we think it's worse than 'cracker' is because that's what we've been told, when in reality they are both words used to put someone down because of their skin colour. Why is one worse than the other, when they were designed and are used for the exact same purpose? The fact that it has been used in one way earlier in history isn't an argument in itself. Nazism is national socialism. I don't see the rallies towards the race classification of the socialistic left?
#14 to #12 - xbyronx ONLINE (01/24/2014) [-]
^^ you are a smart man.
^^ you are a smart man.
User avatar #11 to #10 - TARDIS (01/24/2014) [-]
*NAZIs made.
User avatar #21 to #4 - thelastamerican (01/24/2014) [-]
I don't know, that seems like kind of shaky ground to me. Giving one race special benefits based on how their ancestors were treated seems like complete BS. I think that if a black man can call another black man a ****** I should be allowed to do the same. Making it a hate crime for me to call someone a commonly used word amongst that demographic seems a little like we're encouraging racism in the name of anti-racism. A little bit of an stupid thing to do if you ask me.
#16 to #4 - anon (01/24/2014) [-]
Yes, they were (not necessarily those particular circumstances). Everyone's race were slaves to someone else at some point. Everyone. Africans are not special in that respect, they are simply the most recent.
User avatar #3 to #2 - wellimnotsure (01/24/2014) [-]
Cause ******* want a reason to justify their anger
User avatar #5 - Mudkip (01/24/2014) [-]
Biased opinion. 2 white guys and 4 black individuals.
User avatar #27 to #5 - thegamerslife (01/24/2014) [-]
1white, 1 half breed, 4 negros
#22 - thebeerdude (01/24/2014) [-]
But... Cracker is a racial slur that comes from comparing something with the color of a race, while 			******		 derives from negro; the spanish name for the color black.   
I'd say cracker is worse than saying 			******		 or "neegrow" as most pronounce it.
But... Cracker is a racial slur that comes from comparing something with the color of a race, while ****** derives from negro; the spanish name for the color black.
I'd say cracker is worse than saying ****** or "neegrow" as most pronounce it.
User avatar #24 to #22 - thegamegestapo (01/24/2014) [-]
>What are historical connotations?
User avatar #26 to #22 - KingDedede (01/24/2014) [-]
Cracker actually comes from the sound slave owners whips would make. The whips would make a loud cracking sound when they hit the slaves, hence calling the white slave owners "crackers".
#28 to #26 - thebeerdude (01/24/2014) [-]
Nice to know actually
Nice to know actually
#30 to #22 - jaguarjam (01/24/2014) [-]
Well, but racial slurs aren't just about etymology, are they? I mean I can understand how "negro" can be very hurtful as a pejorative term, because it was used by people promoting social Darwinism in the 19th and even in 20th century to distinguish between the "human" caucassian race and the "less human" african. Even though it may have etymologically only derived from the color of the skin, it absorbed a meaning of genetical inferiority.

While on the other hand, the term "cracker" might've been hatefully used against caucassian people, it derived from actual white slavers who used whips (and "cracked" them, therefore crackers).

Therefore, calling someone a " ****** ", in the worst sense you might mean they are inferior to you biologically, while "cracker" might mean they're people of slaver ancestory, or that they could be capable of enslaving another human being themselves.

So yeah, all in all, I think the word ****** can be just much more hurtful.
#20 - anon (01/24/2014) [-]
i have a solution, a small one , one that may remove some of the racism aspects here, please spread the news, it may work and maybe even give rise to new ideas..... reverse it, so for example : *i see my white friend and im like hey ****** and then i see my black friend and im like hey cracker* this way removing the negativity of either word. Maybe im m´being nieve....
#29 - anon (01/24/2014) [-]
Won't or can't? Just because the FCC made some arbitrary rules that certain words can't be said on daytime television doesn't mean they're worse words.

Secondly ****** is said all the ******* time by those claiming it's the worse word. While i've heard a white person say cracker maybe 5 times in my life. A word can't be that bad if you say it every other ******* word.
User avatar #25 - localbees (01/24/2014) [-]
I honestly just laugh whenever I get called cracker. It's so stupid.
Also, Wonderbread is funny too.
User avatar #23 - BeefSoup (01/24/2014) [-]
Muh race
User avatar #17 - kevinrox (01/24/2014) [-]
which comedian is this?
User avatar #18 to #17 - samsaysbai (01/24/2014) [-]
John Mulaney really funny guy
User avatar #31 to #18 - kevinrox (01/25/2014) [-]
Thank you so much. I've seen him before but couldn't remember his name.
#9 - helenwheels (01/24/2014) [-]
Baddness of a word isn't based on whats okay to say on TV.
Words don't mean anything but what you mean.
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