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User avatar #60 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
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if you use an emulator go fondly **** yourself with a cactus ya asshat. There is no excuse for literally stealing someones work. Downvote me all you want I don't care. Stealing is stealing you ******* bitch. This is the exact reason I hate pc gaming and its entirety
User avatar #1093 to #60 - glitternips (03/04/2015) [-]
-2696. thats gonna leave a reputation mark.
User avatar #1091 to #60 - exuberentmalware (03/02/2015) [-]
ok this is definitely the most thumbed down comment ever
User avatar #1092 to #1091 - mcstorms (03/03/2015) [-]
naw Teevee got 3.5k
User avatar #1084 to #1083 - mcstorms (02/26/2015) [-]
must be the avatar
#1079 to #60 - karidagur (02/26/2015) [-]
this still wont beat the 9/11 one
User avatar #1081 to #1079 - stealthpsybeast (02/26/2015) [-]
Nothing is better than that 9/11 one.
#1082 to #1081 - radiserne (02/26/2015) [-]
**radiserne used "*roll picture*"**
**radiserne rolled image**
What's the 9/11 one?
User avatar #1076 to #60 - roflstorm (02/26/2015) [-]
Please god let this go down in infamy for being the closest to the "9/11" comment by stewie.
#1075 to #60 - luciuseternal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Holy **** , the thumbs!
#1074 to #60 - tacticalbacon (02/26/2015) [-]
Emulation is not Illegal if you own a physical copy
User avatar #1077 to #1074 - seras (02/26/2015) [-]
Actually! I am not trying to side with him, but it actually is, unless you ripped the rom or iso from the copy you bought.
User avatar #1071 to #60 - snooplyon (02/26/2015) [-]
I don't know about Wii, but all of those other consoles are old enough that, even if I buy those games fairly, the money's not going to the people who made the game. I'm not depriving an artist of money that he should have earned trying to make something genuinely entertaining, money that would certainly be used to pay rent/buy food/support family, etc.What I'm doing is getting a game I want to play and not giving $100 to some guy on ebay who wants the money to buy an xbone or PS4.
User avatar #1072 to #1071 - snooplyon (02/26/2015) [-]
Also PC gaming isn't defined by emulation, you have to know that. Ever heard of steam/origin? You can also actually go to a store and buy some of the games that are out for today's consoles for the PC! Still waiting on GTA V though...
#1070 to #60 - chaoticlaw (02/26/2015) [-]
-2592











I know what I'm jerking it to tonight.
User avatar #1040 to #60 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
I said I would thumb you up at every chance I get to help you with this, but I want to be a part of this
User avatar #1036 to #60 - BerwindTwentyFour ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Aside from the fact that this isn't stealing, it's piracy.

You cannot prove that those people would have bought the games in the first place.
Not only that, but a lot of people run emulators to play games they no longer can buy, because no one ******* sells them anymore.
User avatar #1103 to #1036 - desacabose ONLINE (06/05/2015) [-]
Companies still sell them on their online stores, like the virtual console and ps1/2 classics. They're probably just being cheap.
#1101 to #1036 - anon (06/05/2015) [-]
and what is piracy
#1102 to #1101 - anon (06/05/2015) [-]
User avatar #1069 to #1028 - mcstorms (02/26/2015) [-]
This made me laugh for a good few minutes
#1022 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** u mad beeeyotch? I think you've won funnyjunks most thumbed down comment.
User avatar #1067 to #1022 - mcstorms (02/26/2015) [-]
not even close sadly another like 17k away
#1019 to #60 - latadam ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
When i saw the reds i knew you had said something stupid, but my god, i wasn't expecting two ******* thousand red thumbs. Kek'd for a solid minute.
User avatar #1016 to #60 - thetoxicketchup (02/25/2015) [-]
Stealing removes the original. Piracy doesn't. There's no loss involved since people who pirate games like myself generally wouldn't go to the lengths to track down such a hard to find game when it's readily available for free.

If it's something that's just come out, that kind of sucks, but if it's an old, old game that's no longer being made or sold I really don't see why that should be a problem.
#1011 to #60 - vicecomx (02/25/2015) [-]
That's a lot of red thumbs
That's a lot of red thumbs
User avatar #1010 to #60 - katarinaismywaifu (02/25/2015) [-]
Now this is *********** . Teach me master.
#1013 to #1010 - Marker ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
here, take this
User avatar #1008 to #60 - neas (02/25/2015) [-]
It's a little disturbing how many people are falling for this bait. Go job man.
#1006 to #60 - sladee ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
adding to favs for future reference.
User avatar #1003 to #60 - tenaciouslee ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
That's the most red thumbs I've ever seen....
#995 to #60 - theevilfusion (02/25/2015) [-]
Jesus Christ, -2176. I've never seen this much hate in a long ass time... Congrats.  FJFW
Jesus Christ, -2176. I've never seen this much hate in a long ass time... Congrats. FJFW
User avatar #989 to #60 - ABNREACH (02/25/2015) [-]
You got more downvotes than the content has upvotes, do you feel good about what you said?
#988 to #60 - kwizzy (02/25/2015) [-]
This comment has almost more red thumbs than this post does total votes.
This comment has almost more red thumbs than this post does total votes.
User avatar #981 to #60 - stuffinacan (02/25/2015) [-]
Holy **** thats the most downvotes I have ever seen!
User avatar #940 to #60 - theclaymore (02/25/2015) [-]
Favorited cause of all the downvotes. I've never seen so many in my life
User avatar #979 to #940 - indeef ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
ive only seen one other with this high of downvotes. but this is a rarity
#939 to #60 - ghouleyed (02/25/2015) [-]
His comment~
His comment~
User avatar #942 to #939 - ghouleyed (02/25/2015) [-]
This*
#934 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
Stealing is stealing
out of stock/out of market? too bad, still stealing
User avatar #931 to #60 - icametocomment (02/25/2015) [-]
Well, you're taking your red thumbs like a man, at least.

I do think that pirating/emulating games that just came out is kinda ****** , but for stuff that's no longer being sold? Emulate away. I'm digging my Pokemon FireRed hack.
#928 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
SO MANY ******* REDTHUMBS
#927 to #60 - orkanoidz ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
The downthumbs.
The downthumbs.
User avatar #922 to #60 - tinkotin (02/25/2015) [-]
this is the new "what 9/11 that wasn't remotely funny this post fails"
User avatar #919 to #60 - srhkid (02/25/2015) [-]
I smell a troll guiz
#918 to #60 - zoroso (02/25/2015) [-]
never seen so many down thumbs on a comment, so satisfying
#917 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
daaaaayum you really struck a nerve
#916 to #60 - Elk (02/25/2015) [-]
**Elk used "*roll picture*"**
**Elk rolled image** On behalf of the hating board, I wholeheartedly agree.
User avatar #915 to #60 - isthisfunnyornah (02/25/2015) [-]
What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ****** . As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little **** . If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ******* dead, kiddo.
User avatar #912 to #60 - isthisfunnyornah (02/25/2015) [-]
Your comment rank is so ABSOLUTELY ****** from this. Also, What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ****** . As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little **** . If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ******* dead, kiddo.
User avatar #907 to #60 - mgsexplain (02/25/2015) [-]
Is this thew new most thumbed down comment? You're an uninformed douchebag. You literally cannot buy those consoles anymore without going through some sort of difficult hoops, or it being absurdly expensive.
User avatar #911 to #907 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I also need another 18 k to acheive that title.
User avatar #910 to #907 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Again I point out the Wii in all its glory.
#920 to #910 - mgsexplain (02/25/2015) [-]
1. The sony and xbox virtual consoles for PS4 and XBone dont have a lot of classics, so they're hard to come by

2. The wii virtual console DOES have a lot of classics, but even so, a ton of the great classic games hard to come by, some obscure and even well known ones arent on there.

3. You act as if people who DONT have consoles (i.e most PC gamers) Are willing to buy a $300-450 console just for a nostalgic romp, it simply isnt worth it.
User avatar #913 to #910 - franklyimaperson (02/25/2015) [-]
The wii can play sega genesis, dreamcast, AND N64? Noice, how should I go about that, anyway
User avatar #930 to #913 - newtamalego (02/25/2015) [-]
He's saying the computer's emulating wii which is still being sold.
Maybe you knew that, and are being funny, I lost the ability to tell years ago.
User avatar #936 to #930 - franklyimaperson (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah I was being a smartass, the way he was writing it he seemed to imply that the wii could also emulate the older consoles, to me at least, but it's all good man
User avatar #1104 to #936 - desacabose ONLINE (06/05/2015) [-]
The Wii VC sells games from the SG and N64 though
User avatar #892 to #60 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
COME ON GUYS WERE ALMOST AT 2K
#904 to #892 - fiahhawt ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I upvoted you. Then downvoted you cuz you asked.
User avatar #897 to #892 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
1999
User avatar #909 to #897 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
2000! This is such an Honor. I would like to thank KapaKapa without whom this would never of been possible. I would also like to thank the Users of Fj who are apart of the Mustard race.
#1012 to #909 - kaboomz (02/25/2015) [-]
dayum 			*****		 you won the lottery   
2500 reds
dayum ***** you won the lottery
2500 reds
User avatar #890 to #60 - oliveirajo (02/25/2015) [-]
Enjoy your reds
User avatar #889 to #60 - Viceroy (02/25/2015) [-]
You got thumbed down into the cold war man. That is ******* phenominal.
User avatar #886 to #60 - shenro (02/25/2015) [-]
ya dun ****** up m8
User avatar #884 to #60 - lapaat (02/25/2015) [-]
Fav'ing because thumbs
#881 to #60 - poccylane (02/25/2015) [-]
Holy **** -1900, and big enough balls to not delete the comment. **** opinion, but respect for accepting your fate in this ocean of red.
User avatar #879 to #60 - tesforever (02/25/2015) [-]
So many downvotes because a lot of people on here play PC games and probably rip games or use emulators. But I can't hate. An opinion is an opinion. And I get the message that you're trying to say. Nothing really justifies stealing, it is what it is. Even though most of us do it anyway.

So most of all, kudos for having the balls to not delete that comment, even when faced with so much opposition. I use consoles, pc, and emulators. So I'm just really neutral towards everything.
User avatar #878 to #60 - luigipimp (02/25/2015) [-]
what if i want to play Abe's World and all the old playstations were thrown out and destroyed?
User avatar #880 to #878 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
go for it
User avatar #896 to #880 - luigipimp (02/25/2015) [-]
but you said its stealing and they dont make it anymore
#872 to #60 - nimba (02/25/2015) [-]
en route for a second millenium of red thumbs, godspeed you fool
en route for a second millenium of red thumbs, godspeed you fool
User avatar #867 to #60 - bohemianblasphemy ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Ask, and you shall recieve
#864 to #60 - malcolmcz (02/25/2015) [-]
well still that need some balls that he didnt deleted his comment yet
#868 to #864 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
a Captain goes down with his ship in the sea of red, is where I take my final voyage.
a Captain goes down with his ship in the sea of red, is where I take my final voyage.
#858 to #60 - bubbabrent (02/25/2015) [-]
**bubbabrent used "*roll picture*"**
**bubbabrent rolled image** mfw over 1800 ******* red thumbs
User avatar #861 to #858 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
God tier roll
#855 to #60 - fabiform (02/25/2015) [-]
Comment Picture
#853 to #60 - bujo (02/25/2015) [-]
I think its alright to have different opinons but 1.8k red thumbs..
#847 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
hahaha bitch you have more red thumbs than OP has green thumbs. that's sad....
#837 to #60 - oocarlos (02/25/2015) [-]
implying console people dont pirate games
User avatar #832 to #60 - nimba (02/25/2015) [-]
*Applicable to extant consoles only, to which I agree
User avatar #827 to #60 - vexaton ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
There is no way for any (well most of) these consoles to make any more money for the companies that made them. They are obsolete, and they don't sell copies of their games anymore. You would have to get it secondhand, which doesn't earn anyone **** .
#816 to #60 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
Because we all know how we can get SNES games for under $500 at Gamestop, right?
And how every single dollar goes directly to Nintendo for a game they made two decades ago?
And sure it's sort of wrong to emulate the newer games, but the Call of Duty guys clearly don't have money issues.
Also, the content was a PC Mustard Race joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
Not that I'd expect anybody with an IQ as low as yours to get that.
At this point it's too late, but I'm giving you a green thumb every chance I get to help with your thumb count. Despite your stupidity here, I can sort of see where you're coming from, though I don't agree.
User avatar #823 to #816 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I appreciate it bro.
#833 to #823 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
No problem, and remember the wise words of Red Forman:
User avatar #810 to #60 - vexille (02/25/2015) [-]
I've never seen this much red thumbs on a comment before.
User avatar #835 to #810 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
9/11 anon got -20,000
User avatar #901 to #835 - vexille (02/25/2015) [-]
Lol. Crazy.
User avatar #809 to #801 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Mr rogers taught me to be myself .
#817 to #809 - fedexman (02/25/2015) [-]
It's more my reaction to the red thumbs you got.
It's more my reaction to the red thumbs you got.
User avatar #820 to #817 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
ah gotcha
User avatar #790 to #60 - phenact ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
you ****** up dude
#785 to #60 - randyhalfway (02/25/2015) [-]
In all my years at FJ I have never seen HALF that many red thumbs.
The tribe has spoken.
For real though dude, there is no "legitimate" way to get those old games, I'm afraid. You either pay an unreasonable amount of money to some collector, or you get them online.
User avatar #804 to #785 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Like I said a lot fo the games can be purchased somewhere and the fact that he has a ******* wii up there? wich has a vitual console with a lot of ******* games on there. Plus it plays gamecube games.
User avatar #808 to #804 - randyhalfway (02/25/2015) [-]
I see your point about the Wii.
But what about the older ones? They don't sell new games anymore for any of the other consoles, as far as I know. Yeah, virtual console has some, but what do you think is the most legitimate / honest way to get the really old ones?
User avatar #819 to #808 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
personally Im a console fag. and love playing on a console. it just feels right to me. Growing up if I wanted a game i found away to get it legitly. But if the game is no longer in production I understand. I mean if ya wanna play old school super metroid by all means use an emulator. Kinda like pirating an elvis song. After that intial commet everything I said was specifically to see how many red thumbs I could get. And my god did I get a metric **** Ton.
User avatar #793 to #785 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
You clearly have not seen the 9/11 anon
User avatar #802 to #793 - randyhalfway (02/25/2015) [-]
Enlighten me?
And I'm not anon
User avatar #829 to #802 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
Admin ****** something up so most of the thumbs are gone, but many years ago some dumbass anon decided to speak the legendary words:
"9/11? What? That wasn't even remotely funny.
Neither was the last post. This pic fails."
The Chosen Dumbass, not realizing the power of those words, spoke them.
All of FJ gathered to thumb him down. Years later, we were still thumbing him down.
Eventually, that anon became sort of a pilgrimage. He gathered -20,000 thumbs.
Legend has it that one day, somebody will speak stupider words and beat that anon's record.
Mcstorms may be the new Chosen Dumbass after all.
TLDR: Anon said something dumb, got -20,000
I wanted it to sound like a legend
User avatar #844 to #829 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
That was beautiful.
#852 to #844 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
Thank you   
So tell me, did you expect to spark this magnitude of 			*********		? Or did you expect just -20, -50?
Thank you
So tell me, did you expect to spark this magnitude of ********* ? Or did you expect just -20, -50?
User avatar #856 to #852 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Well after the first comment i expected around 100+ but then it kept going , and I'm actually impressed.
#967 to #856 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm probably just being captain obvious right now, but your rank is pepsi. Hope you can deal with living with a -100 level account.
User avatar #784 to #60 - minecrafterkenway (02/25/2015) [-]
THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS PISSED OFF AT YOU, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!
#767 to #60 - awesomedewd (02/25/2015) [-]
those are some damn nice "pc master race" people.
those are some damn nice "pc master race" people.
#764 to #60 - cossackwhoop (02/25/2015) [-]
The quote of the year, guys.
#759 to #60 - bahtzee (02/25/2015) [-]
Good god look at that sea of red.
Good god look at that sea of red.
#757 to #60 - jackpott ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Holy actual 			****		 man that was the wrong time for that opinion
Holy actual **** man that was the wrong time for that opinion
User avatar #769 to #757 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
that Lp counter is killing me
User avatar #750 to #748 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
just wait 12 hours and u can come back
#747 to #60 - yiffcario (02/25/2015) [-]
-1477
-1477
User avatar #780 to #747 - bluenebula (02/25/2015) [-]
More than 100 more in less than 30 minutes.
#797 to #780 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
"More than 100 more in less"
User avatar #803 to #797 - bluenebula (02/25/2015) [-]
Redundant more is redundant.
#746 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
sir, would it still be considered stealing, if you get the emulated game, then buy the game soon after? Technically, I have the legal version, I just like the versatility of one.
User avatar #742 to #60 - ludislavonac (02/25/2015) [-]
Besides buying some of the old flash game packs at humble bundle or steam there is no other way to get a hold of those games since the systems that are used to play them are no longer produced, most used ones aren't operable and those that are are very rare to find. Hence it's the only way to play most of those games. Plus the games mostly are no longer sold, meaning you don't steal someones profits by flashing them, it's under the fair use category if you don't sell them as your own. I'm glad you got all those red thumbs, ******* retard
User avatar #736 to #60 - martbeast (02/25/2015) [-]
you literally asked for this.
#735 to #60 - granadablashlack (02/25/2015) [-]
oh boy, look at all that red
oh boy, look at all that red
#734 to #60 - buriedstpatrick (02/25/2015) [-]
Lol. I'm just gonna' add to the pile here.   
These games would not be sold otherwise, other than from second hand purchases, where the money doesn't go to the developer. There is literally not a problem to be found here.   
   
Haha, god, you're a 			*******		 retard.
Lol. I'm just gonna' add to the pile here.
These games would not be sold otherwise, other than from second hand purchases, where the money doesn't go to the developer. There is literally not a problem to be found here.

Haha, god, you're a ******* retard.
#781 to #734 - skeletorexplains ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
As someone who sells old PS2 / PSX games, This sentence is completely correct.

I have games that are worth pretty much top dollar because they're collectables, But it doesn't mean i'd sell them immediately as sad as that is.

But yeah, I put emulators on my PC Just to play those games, Or download the games i had that no longer worked (Like digimon world.)

So you get a thumb from me for knowing your **** .
#733 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
holy **** you collected 3175 red thumbs in a single thread.
uchichalover would be jealous
User avatar #753 to #733 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
thanks for the tally.
#730 to #60 - twilightdusk (02/25/2015) [-]
You know, even if you go by legalities, the emulator isn't the illegal part, it's the ROM or ISO files that are. Emulators for disk-based systems like the PS2 can let you play a physical PS2 disk on your computer and that's completely legit.
#728 to #60 - WillWalrus (02/25/2015) [-]
If someone steals your car, but it's still there when you wake up, is it really theft?   
No it's not. Theft is theft and piracy is piracy.   
			****		 off.
If someone steals your car, but it's still there when you wake up, is it really theft?
No it's not. Theft is theft and piracy is piracy.
**** off.
User avatar #754 to #728 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
if someone rapes your sister but she doesn't remember it is it still rape?
#828 to #754 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
Yes. Don't be so ******* stupid.
#755 to #754 - WillWalrus (02/25/2015) [-]
How is rape even comparable to theft?   
   
Holy 			****		, you're dumb
How is rape even comparable to theft?

Holy **** , you're dumb
User avatar #859 to #755 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Its literally the same thing if you steal car weather you bring it back or not its still theft.
#1062 to #859 - WillWalrus (02/26/2015) [-]
But the car is still there.
But the car is still there.
User avatar #1066 to #1062 - mcstorms (02/26/2015) [-]
Just because someone doesn't get caught does not mean a crime was not committed.
#1068 to #1066 - WillWalrus (02/26/2015) [-]
Not the point I was trying to make.   
   
At all.   
   
			****		 off, troll.
Not the point I was trying to make.

At all.

**** off, troll.
#723 to #60 - augustusxxiv (02/25/2015) [-]
This x1417
This x1417
#715 to #60 - trollozar (02/25/2015) [-]
THE RED THUMB OF DEATH!!!!
User avatar #714 to #60 - grandmabetty (02/25/2015) [-]
I don't see how it's stealing when the games for those consoles are no longer in production and all the existing copies up for pre-owned sale don't earn them a penny anyway.
User avatar #710 to #60 - alucardthemagician (02/25/2015) [-]
kek. too bad its entirely legal because the systems arent in production anymore.
User avatar #711 to #710 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I understand what you mean, but that still doesn't make it legal.
#845 to #711 - stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
I know I've already said this, but...   
None of that money goes to the developers even if you did buy it.   
And also, what I neglected to mention is the fact that:   
Out of all the trolls, the red thumbwhores, the idiots, those who try to get red thumbs   
You get -1,000 with honest opinions. And I've had conversations with you, you're not a troll   
Like...   
			****		, man.
I know I've already said this, but...
None of that money goes to the developers even if you did buy it.
And also, what I neglected to mention is the fact that:
Out of all the trolls, the red thumbwhores, the idiots, those who try to get red thumbs
You get -1,000 with honest opinions. And I've had conversations with you, you're not a troll
Like...
**** , man.
User avatar #854 to #845 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
The first comment is an honest opinion everything after it was for fun
User avatar #716 to #711 - alucardthemagician (02/25/2015) [-]
"Certain emulation programs and ROMs are not illegal. It would depend on several things --- like if there are no other means to run an Atari game for example, the emulator is legal, and the ROM image -- provided you flash'ed it from your original cartridge -- legal for your personal use" - IGN article on emulators. the downloading of the games is technically illegal but the owners of said gme have reached a point where they make no money off of the games that are circling on the market so they literally dont care m88
User avatar #709 to #60 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
4 more hours to go wonder if we can crack 1500
#707 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
I downvoted because I follow trends, sorry mate
User avatar #708 to #707 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I respect your honesty
#700 to #60 - doctorprofessornv ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm sorry to say but you brought this upon yourself.   
Not a good idea to insult the mustard rice on a website that is almost 70% mustard rice.
I'm sorry to say but you brought this upon yourself.
Not a good idea to insult the mustard rice on a website that is almost 70% mustard rice.
#718 to #700 - trollozar (02/25/2015) [-]
join the mustard rice, we feed mcstorms with red thumb
User avatar #720 to #718 - doctorprofessornv ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I would, but that would require having money. Also I am honor bound to play the Halo series until its conclusion, so until then I must stick with the xbone.
User avatar #699 to #60 - shion (02/25/2015) [-]
booo this man
User avatar #696 to #60 - notisac (02/25/2015) [-]
faving this just cause of the downvotes
User avatar #694 to #60 - shaftyface (02/25/2015) [-]
The troll is strong.

and if you're not trolling then lol
#685 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
You realise any money made from people going out and buying these consoles is no longer money in the devs pockets? It's just a long line of reselling at this point.
Plus you can't even GET some of this stuff reasonably anymore.

Think before you form such ******* extreme opinions, research and **** dude, back up your ******* extremism, you ******* **** .
#672 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
if i tried to emulate something in real life it would be considered a tribute, what is wrong with corporate America now?
User avatar #673 to #60 - lejunkyfaceman (02/25/2015) [-]
but i can't buy the old snes games i want to play anymore =( and i never buy on e-bay and such. is it ok if i only download the old nintendo games?
#664 to #60 - albeit ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
How about we all stop bitching about how others play videogames.
User avatar #656 to #60 - scbyrd (02/25/2015) [-]
do you like loosing levels
because that is how you loose levels
User avatar #690 to #656 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
lol
User avatar #650 to #60 - abstractpink (02/25/2015) [-]
ur allowed to pirate any game if u alrdy have the exact same copy legally
i.e i can torrent skyrim for pc all i want and use it on this pc only, cus i have a legal copy of skyrim
so emulators arent just for pirated games
#647 to #60 - nazo (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah I bet the 			*****		 who made those games and consoles is crying right now
Yeah I bet the ***** who made those games and consoles is crying right now
User avatar #642 to #60 - teratorn (02/25/2015) [-]
You have so many down thumbs you made my browser lag.
User avatar #638 to #60 - cptmctavish (02/25/2015) [-]
You just remembered me that i have an image file of prince of persia i need to install and play.
thx.
#630 to #60 - elseano (02/25/2015) [-]
almost 1k redthumbs, holy **** learmy could learn something from this guy
User avatar #637 to #630 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
damn this is actually on its way to the most thumbed down comment ever \o/.
#668 to #637 - elseano (02/25/2015) [-]
yeah you really struck a nerve, this is right up there with that one 9/11 post.
User avatar #691 to #668 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Im hoping I can beat it. Hell id put that **** on my resume
#1005 to #691 - elseano (02/25/2015) [-]
"What's your achievement, Johnson?"
"I once made people so butthurt i broke a record."
"Excellent. Welcome to the colonosocpy ward. "
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User avatar #623 to #60 - askafj (02/25/2015) [-]
Oh I'm sorry I guess I'll just go out and buy a n64 then
#614 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
Faggot
User avatar #610 to #60 - holycrapimacupcake (02/25/2015) [-]
Except the companies literally make no money off those games anyhow. You cannot find a new copy of SSBM or Tekken.
#609 to #60 - Sevenseas (02/25/2015) [-]
Stealing by definition requires you to actually steal something rather then copy it my friend.
User avatar #608 to #60 - xapplemanx (02/25/2015) [-]
holy mother of jesus, never have i seen this many red numbers on this website
#595 to #60 - jakesauros (02/25/2015) [-]
I wonder whomight be behind this post
User avatar #591 to #60 - cantexplain (02/25/2015) [-]
The sheer amount of butthurt. It's like you raped someone The amount of tard is pushing me out of this place. I hope that moment is coming soon
#579 to #60 - witchofsand (02/25/2015) [-]
"Downvote me all you want"

k
User avatar #575 to #60 - sanitarysan ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
can you break -1000 thumbs?
#602 to #575 - isolovegames (02/25/2015) [-]
But will he surpass this?
User avatar #1052 to #602 - sanitarysan ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
yes
User avatar #603 to #602 - sanitarysan ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
i hardly ever see this many positive thumbs.
#574 to #60 - alioni (02/25/2015) [-]
butthurt too much?
butthurt too much?
#573 to #60 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Obvious troll is obvious.

All games (with precious few exemptions) are commissioned works by a company that are a collaborative effort. Once the game is no longer sellable (like 90% of all original gameboy games) the company generally abandons it, meaning that they do not care enough to start up a legal battle over digital copies. This would mean that the game is essentially free to play because the company just doesn't care, there is no money to be made off it.

That is why you will see some TV gamestation style devices that let you play 100's of classic games for around $10. Essentially those companies paid a lump sum to have legal right to redistribute the games. If you buy one, then you have legal right to play those games, but it still doesn't pay the original authors or company anything.

Once a game is abandoned, the company is no longer making money on it. Therefore it isn't technically stealing to play them.

Also, if you ever legally owned a game, you have legal right to have a digital copy of it (up to 3 actually) as long as you can prove you owned it. If you ever owned the system, then you have legal right to the electronic copy of the bios that powers an emulator.

Therefore, mcstorms, you are a moron, because emulators and roms can be legal. Most are in a technically grey area. Some abandonware games have officially been denounced, meaning that the publishers have stated that they don't care if people download them and playing them, which idemnify those people from persecution.

#571 to #60 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
**baltaismelnais used "*roll picture*"**
**baltaismelnais rolled image** I'm with you man, there is some strong faggotry at hand if poor fags can afford a pc but can't afford a cheap ass console. Besides, if the pc race is all high and mighty, how come we don't have ps3 and xbox360 emulators?
#576 to #571 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
[url deleted]

Dumbass, use google.
User avatar #580 to #576 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
I did, and all I found that it's only on it's way here, just like it was for the past years. Same goes for ps3. Coming here and being fully functional are two different things.




Dumbass
#583 to #580 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Then you are an even bigger dumbass because you didn't read enough.

It is here. It does work. I quote the website:
"In this second release we have been able to support many games."

Some games such as CoD:Black Ops have FULL FUNCTIONALITY which is a plus on an emulator. I still have some gamecube games that I have to use the disc for because the emulators can't do them.
User avatar #598 to #583 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
Corretion, I had to search deeper than the first few pages because there were fakes in the first few.

So, yeah, it is there, what now? Still doesn't change the fact that you can buy both the xbox and a decent pc + **** ton of games for the price of a pc that could run it smooth
#604 to #598 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
*looks over at my Xbox360 that broke down two years ago and is now used to steady a pile of books and then looks at my game collection for it that has been collecting dust*

Okay.

*looks at my gaming PC that has more than enough power to emulate the 360*

So, instead of just using what I have got, to legally play the games I legally purchased, I should instead go buy another xbox, or EVEN BETTER, pay Microsoft to fix it AGAIN, for the fourth time since I bought it when they first came out.
User avatar #612 to #604 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but warranty repairs existed back then too
#617 to #612 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, for the first year after purchase, plus an extended time for the RRoD.

But if you are out of warranty, you have to pay out of pocket for repairs (or buy a care plan).

First breakdown: RRoD
Second breakdown: Laser eye failure
Third breakdown: Wireless controller transmitter thing shorted out.
Fourth breakdown: I get the error code for spindle failure (Disc Drive)

The fourth time, I said **** it, I'm not paying microsoft to fix this piece of **** again.
User avatar #619 to #617 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
How much does the repair cost?

And maybe you just got unlucky with the purchase, a friend of mine still plays his xbox bought about one and a half year ago and it still hasn't got the need to fix it
#624 to #619 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
The last one cost me around $80 if I remember correctly.

I didn't ask about getting it done the 4th time. I personally think that after the 3rd major failure they should have replaced my system for free with a newer one.

I shouldn't be expected to pay twice for a single product. I loved the first xbox, and kinda liked the 360 until then. Nowadays, I see the xboxone and I"m just like, "So not paying for that heap of crap".

Especially since console games will likely be redundant in the near future. (Why pay for a new gaming PC every few years when you could just buy an unlocked gaming PC and upgrade it?) The way things are going, consoles are just small gaming computers that can only do one thing anyways, why not go ahead and cut to the chase.

Most decent games are released for PC anyways, you can use any controller with the PC, plus you can also do other things with a gaming PC.
User avatar #653 to #624 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
True, true. Console gaming is dying out right now and mainly the thing keeping it alive are the exclusive games.

It's true PC is superior to consoles, and that the consoles are bound to die out (Except the handheld ones, PC can't be carried around like that).

Though it still remains "sort-of-a" dick move to pirate off the emulators and console games, unless you had bought the thing like you have

And I tried out the xbox emulator out of curiosity, it wroks well along with the free 9 adwares it carries in it.
#670 to #653 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
The adwares are usually optional in the install, you just gotta be careful before clicking next.

It is how the emulator devs get money from doing what they do.

Also, I didn't buy every game I have on emulators. I buy what I can but a lot of what I have are abandonware. I like to keep my ass covered should my PC/Wii ever be searched.

I now consider the nintendo Wii to be the best gaming system of ALL time. But this is due to its homebrew capabilities. I have all the games I've ever owned (aside from ps2, dreamcast, xbox, and newer on my wii and some abandonware. My old gaming systems are in storage somewhere and I don't need them if I ever want to nostalgia about playing them in my younger days. I don't actually use my PC for emulating all that much, my Wii does most of that.
User avatar #674 to #670 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
I didn't mash through the "Next" buttons, not that kind of a noob. They hid most of it, and while you could untick the searchbars and such, they still snuk in alot of adware.

I've lost much of the games I used to own on the old consoles, and many I've forgotten, so that sucks
#682 to #674 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
If you ever owned them, then you're safe. Even if you ever went to court, most you would get is a warning, if you can prove that you ever owned the game (including testimony from family), unless it is abandonware.

Abandonware fall into a legal "grey area" and even moreso, some games have been deliberately surrendered by their publishers.

Google search liberatedgames.
User avatar #721 to #682 - baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
I can prove that I owned them since I still have the cases of the old game I really liked, since I never could part with them. Same goes for the consoles, since I still have them, but not a TV I can hook them up to
#986 to #721 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Then hook your 360 controller up to the PC, set it up with an emulator, and get to playing!
#605 to #604 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
There is also a PS3 emulator that can supposedly run GTAV as well.
#578 to #576 - linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Thanks admin for blocking my links.... I must not be high enough rank or some crap...

just google search Xbox360 emulator.
User avatar #566 to #60 - serhiy (02/25/2015) [-]
the anti vaxxers would be at awe at your ignorance and stupidity.
#553 to #60 - noonelikesdan (02/25/2015) [-]
Q.Q me a river you little bitch.
#545 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
I wonder how many red thumbs you got for being retarded
#539 to #60 - thesovereigngrave (02/25/2015) [-]
We must slay the troll!
#518 to #60 - fluffysteal (02/25/2015) [-]
what out guys, there's a troll in the dungeon!

or at least a really really autistic mongoloid looking ************ who does not understand what the **** an emulator is. or the ******* economy.
#496 to #60 - tikitaco (02/25/2015) [-]
Let me guess, you paid for photoshop?
User avatar #778 to #496 - basalm (02/25/2015) [-]
I got a cracked PhotoShop once.
Was gut, x-raying clothes is fun.
User avatar #492 to #60 - indonesia (02/25/2015) [-]
you post this through your PS 2? cool
User avatar #488 to #60 - fannypack (02/25/2015) [-]
Google how to kill yourself. And kill yourself.
User avatar #484 to #60 - flambenobunaga (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, poor Sega and all their lost profits when I emulate a Dreamcast game instead of buy it....
User avatar #480 to #60 - ariickido (02/25/2015) [-]
They don't produce half of the game systems being emulated here, if they're not selling it, how is it being stolen? You complete and utter wank stain.
User avatar #475 to #60 - boyddamilkman (02/25/2015) [-]
I didn't have the space to bring my PS2 to uni so I downloaded an emulator to play Okami and SotC, both of which I own.
#461 to #60 - epicextreme (02/25/2015) [-]
thumbed up, i agree
#460 to #60 - isradam (02/25/2015) [-]
Welcome to the internet.
Welcome to the internet.
User avatar #457 to #60 - bemmo (02/25/2015) [-]
Damn this comment's almost at -500 thumbs, I'll help.
*Downthumb*
Now, what did this comment say and why did I downthumb it?
User avatar #446 to #60 - qnamanmanga (02/25/2015) [-]
If you care , I added you thumb up.
User avatar #441 to #60 - zhlandir ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
So, if I own the console does it still make it stealing? I play Majora's Mask and other **** on emulators, just because my N64 controllers aren't that good anymore.

Get off your high horse you lil bitch
User avatar #439 to #60 - freebrainsforall (02/25/2015) [-]
The vast majority of games one would play on those haven't been in production for years.

You can buy some from the Wii network but aside from that none of them are available.

Giving the developers money for them would be impossible. You could purchase an owned copy but that would only feed gamestop.
#434 to #60 - heartbleed ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
****** blaze it
#427 to #60 - popcornisland (02/25/2015) [-]
You know what? your comment truly got through to me, it's straight up theft to use someones creation for free. So I'm gonna contemplate all of this whilst playing spyro 2 on my ps1 emulator.
yoho-yoho
User avatar #426 to #60 - asmodeu (02/25/2015) [-]
So then buy the disks/cartridges, create image files of them in their respective formats and load them up in the emulator.
#423 to #60 - xgrandmoffx (02/25/2015) [-]
Then how else am I supposed to play Star Wars Trilogy? It was only released for the Sega Model III.
#421 to #60 - pseudonyms ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Comment Picture
#417 to #60 - cheeseboyofdoom (02/25/2015) [-]
pls leve funnyjunk forever
pls leve funnyjunk forever
#416 to #60 - penalcupcake (02/25/2015) [-]
OP trying to debate this is about as successful as this good samaritan is at freeing a sheep.
OP trying to debate this is about as successful as this good samaritan is at freeing a sheep.
#414 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
oh man you are retarded, most of those games can't be even bought anymore
User avatar #412 to #60 - trollmobile ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
we're on FJ, it's called "thumb down"
also, **** you, i'm a pirate.
#409 to #60 - bigbrostrider (02/25/2015) [-]
thank you for my daily dose of salt.
thank you for my daily dose of salt.
User avatar #408 to #60 - mazzy (02/25/2015) [-]
What if I told you I only emulate games I own?
#407 to #60 - lipshinuken (02/25/2015) [-]
Have you ever even downloaded the DLC?

Just because games company's sell you half a product legally doesn't mean it's morally right. Besides, all of those consoles title's can be found in any bargain/charity store for like £5 or less. They already made insane profits on launch. **** em!
#399 to #60 - huffe ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
how the hell else am i going to play those games? i don't own any casual consoles
#389 to #60 - widar (02/25/2015) [-]
You realize that literally no new copies of N64 games are being produced, or new N64s, and same with other old consoles? The creators are losing exactly 0$ if you use an emulator.
#373 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
every game i emulate i own as well as its respective console, you go **** yourself with a pineapple.
#368 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
The reason PC is the master race is because companies can't scam us with their half finished games and selling the other half as DLC ******** cause we'll just pirate it. If it's a really good game that deserves to be purchased, people will buy them. Also we have MMO's, so you console poor fags can go cry in a corner.
#360 to #60 - grasman (02/25/2015) [-]
In fact I'm building a ps1 and ps2 game collection as I write this.   
Those games are long gone from the market.   
Even if I wanted I couldn't buy them anymore.   
Except from other people and that wouldn't bring any more money in the pockets of the developers than just downloading it.   
   
This problem wouldn't even exist to this extand if the console asshats would release their 			****		 on the pc as well.   
Because there are good games on consoles, but I'm noot buying a console too play a few several games on it.   
So my only chance is to emulate them.   
But noo I'm probably wrong with this argument.   
   
Many people are interested in retro gaming or simply playing the games they played in their childhood.   
But not all of those people can afford to actually hunt down all those games and the hardware to play them on on ebay or whatever.   
   
There are rare games that cost thousands of dollars but I can get the rom for free and just play it.   
   
So with all due respect, keep your 			******		 opinion to yourself.
In fact I'm building a ps1 and ps2 game collection as I write this.
Those games are long gone from the market.
Even if I wanted I couldn't buy them anymore.
Except from other people and that wouldn't bring any more money in the pockets of the developers than just downloading it.

This problem wouldn't even exist to this extand if the console asshats would release their **** on the pc as well.
Because there are good games on consoles, but I'm noot buying a console too play a few several games on it.
So my only chance is to emulate them.
But noo I'm probably wrong with this argument.

Many people are interested in retro gaming or simply playing the games they played in their childhood.
But not all of those people can afford to actually hunt down all those games and the hardware to play them on on ebay or whatever.

There are rare games that cost thousands of dollars but I can get the rom for free and just play it.

So with all due respect, keep your ****** opinion to yourself.
User avatar #467 to #360 - basalm (02/25/2015) [-]
I've only emulated a few games, is it possible to even emulate newer consoles, or no?




Pokemon.
User avatar #758 to #467 - grasman (02/25/2015) [-]
New consoles like ps3 or even ps4 are impossible to emulate.
There are just no emulators yet.
User avatar #830 to #775 - grasman (02/25/2015) [-]
Oh nice.
That looks promising.
Maybe it won't take so long until I can play Last of Us, Heavy Rain and Beyond to Souls after all.
But I guess it doesn't really the games yet, does it?
Probably work in progress for soome more years.
User avatar #831 to #830 - grasman (02/25/2015) [-]
*play the games
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User avatar #349 to #60 - reican (02/25/2015) [-]
What if you own it but some of it is broken and you cant buy it because it stopped being on the marked a decade ago. Think about that you uncultured swine
User avatar #339 to #60 - thatguyontheright (02/25/2015) [-]
If you own the cartridge, it's not stealing if you download the rom...also PS1 and PS2 emulators can use the original discs...so...
User avatar #774 to #338 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I love that guy
User avatar #353 to #338 - venomousvalentine ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
source?
User avatar #358 to #356 - venomousvalentine ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I liked the trists voice even though it didnt sound like trist
User avatar #328 to #60 - tiagodisouza (02/25/2015) [-]
This just makes me want to emulate even more
User avatar #326 to #60 - thehiddensoul (02/25/2015) [-]
Hey dick ******* tittle twist, not all gaming systems are available anymore, i haven't seen a Sega dreamcast in ******* 6 years, i even checked eBay, if it's discontinued, you can piracy the games for it, it's ok because you can't find that bitch anywhere.

Go **** your fathers now detached limbs (you can thank me for that later) you liberal piece of hipster faggotry.

-Sincerely,

Everyone everywhere
User avatar #348 to #326 - sixfivefourtwoone ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Not trying to say you're wrong or anything.. however I got a dreamcast from my local G2K not even 4 months back..
#322 to #60 - venomousvalentine ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
You're stupid.
#309 to #60 - captainprincess ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
oh ye who knoweth not
User avatar #725 to #307 - drayn (02/25/2015) [-]
I like your thinking
User avatar #726 to #725 - syrianassassin (02/25/2015) [-]
Piracy helped me to understand computers. to get software's i could not afford to help me to work on computers.
User avatar #729 to #726 - drayn (02/25/2015) [-]
I did have similar problems with softwares such as maple or solidworks
Some people can just not afford them or have access to them
User avatar #732 to #729 - syrianassassin (02/25/2015) [-]
when i bought Genuine windows vista. i installed it on 3 PC. after this the serial didnt work because 3 limited activation

WHAT........ I WASTED 100KD FOR THIS!!! NOW IT IS USELESS!

and here is my story for having pirated software's. but for video games i pirate if only necessary.
#304 to #60 - thesweetscientist (02/25/2015) [-]
But if I buy all of my games, I won't have enough money to pay your mother for sex.
#301 to #60 - Eralus ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
User avatar #293 to #60 - velociraptorein (02/25/2015) [-]
a LONG time ago on the Super Nintendo i had this Jurassic park game that was the best part of my childhood. I remembered it one day and try as i might i couldn't find a copy of it ANYWHERE. No matter were i looked.

The only way it would seem i would be able to play this remnant of a time long past was through Emulators. This and that one power rangers game. I still find it fun. i still have all my old consoles, But finding those games for a decent price is impossible.

Most of these old ass random games are NOT for sale on any platform of console store. On occasion i find gems such as Dino Crisis, which is nice, but otherwise, Not gonna happen.
User avatar #292 to #60 - drewthebrave (02/25/2015) [-]
information wants to be free. and free it shall be if possible.
#283 to #60 - moriorinvictus ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
LOOK AT HIM, LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH.
User avatar #281 to #60 - bewailedbadger (02/25/2015) [-]
Hey, ******** . Guess what. Games for those systems? You can't get anymore. You can't buy a Gamecube or its games anymore, and all the other ones are older than that. It's not stealing if you can't ******* get them anymore.
User avatar #773 to #281 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
wtf are you on? The wii is not older then that. and the wii runs gamecube games.
User avatar #230 to #60 - alstorp (02/25/2015) [-]
:^(
User avatar #212 to #60 - anomorphous (02/25/2015) [-]
in it's entirety*
User avatar #240 to #212 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
you sure about that because I don't think and it is entirety is grammatically correct
User avatar #244 to #240 - tyrson ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I think "in its entirety" is the proper statement and spelling.
User avatar #247 to #244 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
That's what I thought.
#211 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
ur poor, the systems are no longer available unless as antiques, no other way to even find your favorite retro ass games.... theres a greatness in emulators that bring back teh classics we used to adore, a nostalgia of sorts, no harm done in finding the lost
#208 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
You're a moron. You aren't stealing if you own the console and the games you are emulating.
******* twat.
User avatar #198 to #60 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Well im done replying to comments in this thread I wonder if this will be the most disliked comment ever On fj . Only time will tell.
User avatar #231 to #198 - deadmice (02/25/2015) [-]
I'd thumb down more of your comments but FJ won't let me.
User avatar #615 to #231 - spceinvdr (02/25/2015) [-]
come back tomorrow and have at it
#169 to #60 - thedragonfail (02/25/2015) [-]
Everything below this comment is butthurt and damage control. Care
#165 to #60 - NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Sorry, but, no. 90% of games made for a system are NOT on virtual stores. For you to believe otherwise only proves your own foolishness.
User avatar #167 to #165 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
prove me wrong ya ******* bitch. You saying that means nothing if ya cant prove . It was also not to be taken that seriously , but Unless you can actually prove me wrong than its as true as the sky is blue.
#171 to #167 - NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
You made the positive claim that 90% of games are on PSN (or relevant store). But, since you appear to be a 12 year old X-Box Live kid, proof shall smite you directly in the testicles that have not dropped yet.

240 PS1 games on the PSN, while 1,248 were released. This is a whopping 19.23%, which is nowhere near your claim of 90%.
User avatar #175 to #171 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
thanks for proving me wrong In all seriousness I hate people say things without proof. when I said 90% I was exaggerating. evidently by a metric *******
#177 to #175 - NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Those numbers are even worse for older systems. Try finding even 5% of the NES, Sega Genesis, or SNES libraries without using an emulator.
User avatar #179 to #177 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I feel like it wouldnt be all that hard
#184 to #179 - NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Then you haven't tried. Nintendo doesn't seem to like putting 3rd party games on their store, finding NES games is nigh impossible, and there's no store dedicated to classic Sega games.
#161 to #60 - malaysianflight (02/25/2015) [-]
It's not really stealing. It's more of reverse engineering the programming to work on the computer. We all know who made the games, get ya panties out of your ass and enjoy the games.
#163 to #161 - malaysianflight (02/25/2015) [-]
They don't even sell or produce it anymore... They aren't losing any money. It's open market stuff now.
User avatar #162 to #161 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I enjoy games that I purchase not stolen
#613 to #162 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
youre such a ******* faggot. enjoy your red thumbs you stupid ******
User avatar #639 to #613 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
k
User avatar #125 to #60 - kevinenter (02/25/2015) [-]
Wow you're ******* stupid. You have every single thing about PC gaming because some people use emulators? I got punched in the face by a black kid when I was 9, I guess now I should hate all black people right? Some people watch TV shows that I don't like, I guess I hate everything about TV now. Some people put illegal music on their phones and iPods, guess I hate all of those too.
User avatar #142 to #125 - kevinenter (02/25/2015) [-]
Hate* every single thing about PC gaming
User avatar #121 to #60 - ronyx ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Pretty sure a lot of people that use emulators used to play those games as kids, which means they had at some point bought the game.
User avatar #119 to #60 - hellomynameisbill ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
is it still stealing if they haven't sold the product in 30 years and no longer rely on it to make revenue.
User avatar #118 to #60 - peanutsaurusrex ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
why dont you go yell at the people who illegally download music then
theres a lot more of them than us
User avatar #133 to #118 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I do
#557 to #133 - pieliker (02/25/2015) [-]
I just finished playing my pirated copy of Dying Light and fully enjoyed it.
I just finished playing my pirated copy of Dying Light and fully enjoyed it.
User avatar #134 to #114 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
that is a very amusing picture
User avatar #738 to #134 - hellsjester (02/25/2015) [-]
He deserved the other down votes but why here it is an amusing picture
User avatar #751 to #738 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
people love to hate, after you are hated no matter what you do you will be hated. it is amusing though
User avatar #834 to #751 - witislimited (02/25/2015) [-]
I don't hate you because everyone hates you.

I hate you because you provided ****** arguments, based off ethical dogma, ignorant to the circumstances.

You think the creative developers of the game will benefit if I buy it for God-knows-how-much from some pawn store?

Did you consider effort went into "refurbishing" the game, to modern platforms? Effort that is arguably wasted, instead of just emulating the ******* thing? The way coding works is that developers typically reuse code. They don't code everything from scratch- if some seperate, independent developers wanted to use randomly generated numbers in their software, each and everyone would code their own random number generator, instead of using the one that comes with whatever dev kit they use e.g Java? Your argument is that developers should get more money for more work, done to create their own Rn-Generator instead of just using whatever the **** already exists. That is not a productive (or even efficient) endeavour that should be compensated with money/goods/services/livelihood.

This is the information age, and you are treating data/information like goods.

**** you.



User avatar #849 to #834 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Im going to be 100% honest a lot of what you said confused me. Also what I meant was not that you hate me because everyone hates me, but now that you hate me everything I do is gonna piss you off.
User avatar #1046 to #849 - witislimited (02/25/2015) [-]
"Im going to be 100% honest a lot of what you said confused me."

Well, you at least have *some* redeeming factors. So, do you understand now?

"...but now that you hate me everything I do is gonna piss you off."

I'm not sure what it is that makes you think I'll hate you no matter what, but even I recognize that at some point, people deserve forgiveness. I don't expect you to bother wanting to redeem yourself in my eyes, because I'm just some random shmuck on the internet.
#756 to #751 - hellsjester (02/25/2015) [-]
Shut up fag I wasn't talking to you.... Go back to your no avenging spirit and ninja turtle ways
User avatar #105 to #60 - iamthetoaster (02/25/2015) [-]
Except for the part where you can't buy any of that **** anymore, and the only way to play those games without shelling out thousands for collecter items is to use an emulator. and, newsflash, if you actaully buy the consoles and cartridges for all that **** , you aren't giving money to the producer, you're giving money to some ******** in his basement who knows he can rip you off for a few hundred bucks. Get off your high ******* horse and use that damn pile of grey noodles in between your ears.
User avatar #136 to #105 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I have said it before 90% of that can be purached via wii store psn and what ever x-box has going
User avatar #552 to #136 - greatgatsby ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah I'll get right on buying a Sega Saturn game on my wii...

look I'm all for not stealing games... but after a while the guys who made the original game won't get to see the money anymore so who cares.

If I want to play Chrono Trigger on my ipad I damn well will play Chrono Trigger on my ipad
User avatar #645 to #552 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
the remade chrono trigger for 3ds not too long ago
User avatar #140 to #136 - iamthetoaster (02/25/2015) [-]
But there are still a large quantity of missing titles. it's definatley not the proverbial 90% you claim. on the nintendo store, it's only large, first party games, a lot gets lost, the PSN is missing quite a few good PS2 and PS1 titles, and as far as original xbox games go, digital ports are pretty rare. A good example would be, what if you wanted to play the original pokemon games? They don't have those available on the nintendo store (or at least they didn't last time I checked). If you can buy it through legitamate methods, you should, but since there's a lot that you can't, emulators have their place in legitimate gaming.
User avatar #141 to #140 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
You know how I play original Pokemon games On my gameboy advanced Sp6.
User avatar #144 to #141 - iamthetoaster (02/25/2015) [-]
As I said earlier. THEY DON"T SELL THOSE ANYMROE! If I wanted to play it on an actaul gameboy, I'd have to buy one from some ******** on Ebay, as well as the cartridge, in which case the money is going to said ******** , not Nintendo. So emulator. I'm not shelling out a few hundred bucks to some dickhead on ebay for something that I can do for free. If nintendo still made and sold the gameboy advanced and cartridges of the original nintendo, I'd buy that, but htey don't, so what ******* difference does it make if I emulate it instead of buying it on ebay?
#287 to #144 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
or...you know. go to a used game store. you know, theres a ton of them that sell older systems and games.
User avatar #983 to #287 - thundagawd (02/25/2015) [-]
That's an option, but I don't know if you've actually been to any used game stores recently, the more sought out ones are unreasonably expensive, and no one asides from a hardcore collector would actually buy them. Final Fantasy VII retails for upwards of $200 everywhere I've seen, the original Silent Hill 2 goes for like 150$, etc.

You can still get your hands on the majority of PS2 & Xbox 360 titles easily enough from used game retailers, but everything prior to that generation is near impossible to get unless it's at a ridiculous price.
#822 to #287 - thebaseballexpert (02/25/2015) [-]
last time i went to a used game store they were selling Pokemon Emerald for $48, and brand new copies of Pokemon B2/W2 for $35
User avatar #923 to #822 - lokischosen (02/25/2015) [-]
thats because B2/W2 are **** and no one wants them
#717 to #287 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
for PS2, Xbox, Gamecube... that is absolutely true. you could go buy these games from used games bins. but then you sold your x-box a long ass time ago, and then you just have to copy the ISO from the disc into your computer and run it through an... emulator

for the older machines like the NES, SNES, Dreamcast, PS1, N64, Genesis, whathaveyou... you can only find them nowadays in the back of other people's closets, or in their official cases still. one you will not be able to reach, cause people are lazy. the other you wont be able to afford, cause the people that sell them treat them as collector's items. So the only to play them is to emulate them through online services
User avatar #777 to #717 - moonkitty (02/25/2015) [-]
There is a store you could go to to get all those old systems... theexchange.com/
User avatar #150 to #144 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
In that exact specific scenario not much, but in the scenario I called out 90% can be bought at gamestop. Or through various online gaming stores on consoles. i also thought pokemon games were on the eshop 3ds but I guess i was wrong
User avatar #155 to #150 - iamthetoaster (02/25/2015) [-]
Guess what, if you buy a used game taht they don't mint anymore at gamestop, Nintendo (or whoever the original producer was) still doesn't get the money, it's a resale. so gamestop is out of the question as well. And I still maintain that it's not 90%, it's closer to 50-60%. and those 50-60%, you should buy from the first party, but the rest of them, why would I buy a resale copy if the money isnt' supporting the developer?
User avatar #158 to #155 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
because resale also helps the developer. Resale numbers are looked at, ******* hell I purchased MGS3 9 years after its release date. They kept it in stock because there-is demand for the game even to present day.
User avatar #633 to #158 - hubabalu (02/25/2015) [-]
Enjoy earning that comment rank back **** boi
#422 to #158 - icefall (02/25/2015) [-]
What? Are you stupid? Resale doesn't help any developer. It only benefits the reseller.
User avatar #159 to #158 - iamthetoaster (02/25/2015) [-]
But here's the thing, they aren't keeping NEW copies in stock. they don't make the disk anymore, they're keeping trade-ins in stock. the money doesnt' go to the developer, so the only person you'd be supporting in that scenario is gamestop. and as far as PR goes, the resales are often included in sales numbers, but bragging about good sales doesn't matter after your games been out for more than a year. unless you're an MMO.
#99 to #60 - tapeboy (02/25/2015) [-]
what if you bought everything you emulated years in advance? would that be stealing or simply revisiting?
User avatar #93 to #60 - thenewgizmobox (02/25/2015) [-]
yeah sure, i'll just go shell out $100 bucks for a game that stopped being in production years ago and is only owned by collectors. If only there were a way to download and play video games that are out of production and have been so for years...
#104 to #93 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
Virtual console
User avatar #112 to #104 - thenewgizmobox (02/25/2015) [-]
otherwise known as an....?
#92 to #60 - kingderps (02/25/2015) [-]
I don't think I ever downloaded a game for an emulator that I didn't have legally purchased as a kid.
#86 to #60 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
I think you need to look up the definition of stealing first.
User avatar #82 to #60 - zacoren (02/25/2015) [-]
the only system on here that you can even buy brand-new games for is the Wii, anything else would be a used copy and buying used copies does not support the developer.
User avatar #137 to #82 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
psn/vitual console
User avatar #80 to #60 - hanakoikezawa (02/25/2015) [-]
and what if you go out and buy the games for them?

where is your argument now?
User avatar #78 to #60 - steamjester (02/25/2015) [-]
You're either trolling or are ******* stupid. You do realize that a great deal of programming for console games is done ON computer's...right? In fact, most new consoles ARE small gaming computers with controller ports. DERP. Lastly, as someone who likes both, I must say...why not both?
User avatar #139 to #78 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
What in the flying blueberry **** does that have to do with anything.
User avatar #88 to #78 - snowvahkiin (02/25/2015) [-]
I think you mean ALL programming is done on a computer.
#94 to #88 - steamjester (02/25/2015) [-]
But..but...what about my T-85 Calculator? (Kidding. I don't own one and it'd be impractical to have one nowadays, unless you're a Math person). But yea, more or less. Here's a pic of someone playing Doom on a graphing calculator. I would've bought one myself for just that reason, though we now have smart phones which are around 30 bucks. Beats putting down a couple hundred for a Graphing Calculator.
User avatar #95 to #94 - snowvahkiin (02/25/2015) [-]
That went so many places in one go that i'm not even gonna try to understand which parts were relevant and which weren't
User avatar #96 to #95 - steamjester (02/25/2015) [-]
Has to do with programming, brah. xD
User avatar #97 to #96 - snowvahkiin (02/25/2015) [-]
But but xboner is a computer and so is that calculator.
User avatar #70 to #60 - drackmore (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm sorry but I'm not going to go out and repurchase all my games on past consoles off the wii market just so I don't have to hook up my older consoles everytime I want to play a game or maybe I want to play a game that isn't sold anymore in stores I still ain't going to buy a wii just to buy it off their store on the off chance they even have the game . But I do have some limits and don't pirate games for consoles that are still being made.
User avatar #68 to #60 - artificerp (02/25/2015) [-]
the products are out of production retard
the producers of the production no longer produce the product, so they dont get revenue off of it anyways
User avatar #72 to #68 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Yes because you cannot download games of psn or the wii store jerkoff.
User avatar #1025 to #72 - IbeTrollinFewl (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, I'm going to go download ATARI BREAKOUT from the ******* PSN store.
User avatar #765 to #72 - takesomemorewater (02/25/2015) [-]
Wip3out Special Edition, WipEout 2097, Tekken 3, Ace Combat, Gran Turismo, Grand Theft Auto 1, Demolition Derby, Tony Hawk's series, among many others...there's that...

No I don't support stealing **** either...it's ******* stupid and unethical (and I've been there myself lol), but it's people's desicion in the long run and I keep my ******* nose out of their business...why are you offended?
User avatar #772 to #765 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Becuase I hate PC gaming , i just do pc gmaers are like vegans. Quick to point out how much better they are then you. Yet you need to illegally download the master console race and all the master console games. Some mustard race they are.
#905 to #772 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
PC Gaming Master Race!
#825 to #772 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
i'm only gonna steal games cause of this. and i'll think of you every moment i play. what should i download first? i'll make it something that's still available to buy, just for you!!!
User avatar #779 to #772 - takesomemorewater (02/25/2015) [-]
Gotta realize that not everyone is like that though, don't start generalizing lol...but I get what you're saying...there are "those" kind of people. I'm a pc gamer too (or laptop...I play Terraria, **** it) but I've owned every PS console so far (except PS4 because there are "no games" yet) and I've taken care of my PS1 since I was a kid.

Sidetrack, whatever, just don't generalize.
User avatar #796 to #779 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I know and I don know that there are defientley circumstances where its okay but seeing the wii up their made me lose my **** .
User avatar #806 to #796 - takesomemorewater (02/25/2015) [-]
Tip: Ignore it all
User avatar #74 to #72 - artificerp (02/25/2015) [-]
i meant the other ones
#62 to #60 - databutt (02/25/2015) [-]
Oh **** off bait.
User avatar #63 to #62 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Not a bait I seriously hate people like him and anyone who says "pc master race". Buy your ******* **** .
#359 to #63 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm considering making a GIF of me downloading a car for your white knight ass.
User avatar #168 to #63 - unikornking ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
The only people who say pc master race are the people who are joking, and the dumbasses that can't tell it's a joke.
User avatar #172 to #168 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
.... that would literally mean everyone though.
User avatar #174 to #172 - unikornking ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
and you fall in the latter category. Are you genuinely this stupid or are you trolling?
User avatar #178 to #174 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
That doesn't even make any sense. You said "the only people who" which would mean a select group but you gave two the defines everyone on earth. Yet you have the audacity to call me stupid? geez man why dont you grow up.
User avatar #183 to #178 - unikornking ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Can you read? I said "people who say master race". I wasn't aware that every single person on the planet use that phrase frequently.
User avatar #186 to #183 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
they dont but you said the only people who say it are people who are kidding and the ones who aren't. Either your kiding or your not witch entails everyone. if anyone said it at any point in time either they are joking or serious.
User avatar #191 to #186 - unikornking ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Yes. And your point? Mine is that most people use it as a joke, and the only people that use it seriously are the guys who can't tell the others are joking (which I haven't seen a single person EVER say it seriously, only people who complain about the phrase pc master race)
User avatar #195 to #191 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
some guy said it seriously to me in a target once and I punched him in the face. true story , because I ******* hate PC fags. I have actually never met someone who used it as a joke tbh
#607 to #195 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
Does it count as stealing if you own all the consoles and the games you emulate for them? I do that, and I'd actually be interested in your opinion on it. I only download games i personally own just so I don't have to go out and find the game in my attic.
#606 to #195 - Pink Floyd (02/25/2015) [-]
Congratulations, you are the most autistic person on the Internet.
User avatar #644 to #606 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
why? becuase I disagree with the vast majority of you on a certain subject?
#932 to #644 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
No, because you are such a butthurt little faggot that you take the debate between PC and consoles so seriously that you are ready to resort to violence.
#343 to #195 - kiratheunholy (02/25/2015) [-]
Ah yes I too like to mindlessly punch people that disagree with my opinion.   
   
It really shows you are of superior mind when you refuse to restrain yourself from primal urges of violence at a moment's discontent.
Ah yes I too like to mindlessly punch people that disagree with my opinion.

It really shows you are of superior mind when you refuse to restrain yourself from primal urges of violence at a moment's discontent.
User avatar #200 to #195 - unikornking ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Obviously you are joking? trolling?Something else? If you really aren't, I recommend psychological help.
#148 to #63 - anon (02/25/2015) [-]
pcmasterrace, suck my glorious cock bitch
User avatar #152 to #148 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
God knows you need someone too you basement dwelling neck-beard faggot.
#65 to #63 - zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Heres my issue with that. One it's not stealing. Stealing means you no longer have the property. It is still there. I have made a copy of it. But you yourself still have your copy. Second, I pirate games to try them. Think of it as a forced demo. If I like it, I pay for it. In hopes that they will keep making games I like. If I dont I uninstall and do not purchase it. If I dont have the money I pirate it and pay for it when I can. If I can't pay for it ever/forget about it. Then they've lost nothing. I didn't have the money, they would not have recieved my non existent money at the time, and I would have never remembered about this game to begin with. So I don't see the problem here as long as you pay for what you can.
User avatar #71 to #65 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Not everyone does it like that though most people say fuuckit I can get it for free.
User avatar #760 to #71 - topoftherock ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
most people who pirate buy the game if they like it.
#73 to #71 - zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
How would you know and if so so what? odds are if you're just gonna pirate it you probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place. I really like super mario 64 but if you think im willing to go out and buy a nintendo 64 for 80 bucks and the game for 30-200 (depending on who you buy it from) youre wrong. I'd much rather buy an emulator.
User avatar #76 to #73 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Why not I did? I mean I saved my n64 and then went and purchased the game
#189 to #76 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
What if someone has no way to obtain the console in question or the games?
User avatar #192 to #189 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
always a way
#194 to #192 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
No there isn't.
User avatar #196 to #194 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
Yes
#199 to #196 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
No there's not. Are you so incredibly deluded and stuck up in your own thinking that you cannot consider others arguements? Do you always have to be right or something?
User avatar #201 to #199 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
No , the fact is their is always a ******* way to afford something. You want something get a job save money and buy its that ******* simple.
#205 to #201 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
Life necessities > Gaming consoles
If you can't buy it, pirate it instead. If you can buy it, then buy it. If you've pirated it, and now you can buy it, buy it.

And what if there's literally no way to obtain the console in question, regardless of money.
The games themselves are exclusive to that console, there will never be and are no remakes of them, they are unobtainable except through emulation. Same with the console.
User avatar #207 to #205 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
100 years from now when thats true be my guest but untill then buy it
#210 to #207 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
In alot of places including other countries, you cannot obtain these consoles.
Yet the person may have access to internet and a computer, and can emulate them.

That and who would spend hundreds of dollars to buy an age-old console that's effectively worth less than 50$, and on a game possibly worth hundreds dollars that would get shat on if it was made and sold for so much today.

It's easy for you to say this, but not so much for everyone else who isn't stuck up and doesn't have to be always right.
User avatar #241 to #210 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
I dont always have to be right I am right.
User avatar #440 to #241 - olioh (02/25/2015) [-]
sir, you are a bad troll and you should just jump into a pit of fire
User avatar #651 to #440 - mcstorms (02/25/2015) [-]
to be honest it started as a genuine opinion , then I wanted to see how far I could snowball.
#665 to #651 - olioh (02/25/2015) [-]
from the over -1k red thumbs i would say, you are rolling just fine, soon you will find the fire pit
#250 to #241 - gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
Yet everyone disagrees with you, presents reasons as to why emulating is A-okay, and you still go "NO ITS JUST WRONG YOU CAN JUST BUY THE CONSOLE"
It's as though you just can't comprehend being wrong.
#79 to #76 - zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Because I didn't have the foresight as a 10 year old to see me wanting a n64 when I'm 20, but that's a stupid question. What if it was just a friends n64 and I never owned it. You're still stuck in the same situation.
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