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ok this is definitely the most thumbed down comment ever
I don't know about Wii, but all of those other consoles are old enough that, even if I buy those games fairly, the money's not going to the people who made the game. I'm not depriving an artist of money that he should have earned trying to make something genuinely entertaining, money that would certainly be used to pay rent/buy food/support family, etc.What I'm doing is getting a game I want to play and not giving $100 to some guy on ebay who wants the money to buy an xbone or PS4.
I said I would thumb you up at every chance I get to help you with this, but I want to be a part of this
Aside from the fact that this isn't stealing, it's piracy.
You cannot prove that those people would have bought the games in the first place.
Not only that, but a lot of people run emulators to play games they no longer can buy, because no one ******* sells them anymore.
You cannot prove that those people would have bought the games in the first place.
Not only that, but a lot of people run emulators to play games they no longer can buy, because no one ******* sells them anymore.
Companies still sell them on their online stores, like the virtual console and ps1/2 classics. They're probably just being cheap.
Stealing removes the original. Piracy doesn't. There's no loss involved since people who pirate games like myself generally wouldn't go to the lengths to track down such a hard to find game when it's readily available for free.
If it's something that's just come out, that kind of sucks, but if it's an old, old game that's no longer being made or sold I really don't see why that should be a problem.
If it's something that's just come out, that kind of sucks, but if it's an old, old game that's no longer being made or sold I really don't see why that should be a problem.
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theevilfusion (02/25/2015) [-]
Jesus Christ, -2176. I've never seen this much hate in a long ass time... Congrats. FJFW
Favorited cause of all the downvotes. I've never seen so many in my life
Well, you're taking your red thumbs like a man, at least.
I do think that pirating/emulating games that just came out is kinda ****** , but for stuff that's no longer being sold? Emulate away. I'm digging my Pokemon FireRed hack.
I do think that pirating/emulating games that just came out is kinda ****** , but for stuff that's no longer being sold? Emulate away. I'm digging my Pokemon FireRed hack.
What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ****** . As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little **** . If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ******* dead, kiddo.
Your comment rank is so ABSOLUTELY ****** from this. Also, What the **** did you just ******* say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ******* words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ****** . As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ******* dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little **** . If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ******* tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ******* dead, kiddo.
Is this thew new most thumbed down comment? You're an uninformed douchebag. You literally cannot buy those consoles anymore without going through some sort of difficult hoops, or it being absurdly expensive.
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mgsexplain (02/25/2015) [-]
1. The sony and xbox virtual consoles for PS4 and XBone dont have a lot of classics, so they're hard to come by
2. The wii virtual console DOES have a lot of classics, but even so, a ton of the great classic games hard to come by, some obscure and even well known ones arent on there.
3. You act as if people who DONT have consoles (i.e most PC gamers) Are willing to buy a $300-450 console just for a nostalgic romp, it simply isnt worth it.
2. The wii virtual console DOES have a lot of classics, but even so, a ton of the great classic games hard to come by, some obscure and even well known ones arent on there.
3. You act as if people who DONT have consoles (i.e most PC gamers) Are willing to buy a $300-450 console just for a nostalgic romp, it simply isnt worth it.
The wii can play sega genesis, dreamcast, AND N64? Noice, how should I go about that, anyway
He's saying the computer's emulating wii which is still being sold.
Maybe you knew that, and are being funny, I lost the ability to tell years ago.
Maybe you knew that, and are being funny, I lost the ability to tell years ago.
Yeah I was being a smartass, the way he was writing it he seemed to imply that the wii could also emulate the older consoles, to me at least, but it's all good man
The Wii VC sells games from the SG and N64 though
So many downvotes because a lot of people on here play PC games and probably rip games or use emulators. But I can't hate. An opinion is an opinion. And I get the message that you're trying to say. Nothing really justifies stealing, it is what it is. Even though most of us do it anyway.
So most of all, kudos for having the balls to not delete that comment, even when faced with so much opposition. I use consoles, pc, and emulators. So I'm just really neutral towards everything.
So most of all, kudos for having the balls to not delete that comment, even when faced with so much opposition. I use consoles, pc, and emulators. So I'm just really neutral towards everything.
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stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
Because we all know how we can get SNES games for under $500 at Gamestop, right?
And how every single dollar goes directly to Nintendo for a game they made two decades ago?
And sure it's sort of wrong to emulate the newer games, but the Call of Duty guys clearly don't have money issues.
Also, the content was a PC Mustard Race joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
Not that I'd expect anybody with an IQ as low as yours to get that.
At this point it's too late, but I'm giving you a green thumb every chance I get to help with your thumb count. Despite your stupidity here, I can sort of see where you're coming from, though I don't agree.
And how every single dollar goes directly to Nintendo for a game they made two decades ago?
And sure it's sort of wrong to emulate the newer games, but the Call of Duty guys clearly don't have money issues.
Also, the content was a PC Mustard Race joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
Not that I'd expect anybody with an IQ as low as yours to get that.
At this point it's too late, but I'm giving you a green thumb every chance I get to help with your thumb count. Despite your stupidity here, I can sort of see where you're coming from, though I don't agree.
www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/200731/Stewie+/1#1
www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2030094/Most/
They reset the thumbs on this, but it was more.
www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2030094/Most/
They reset the thumbs on this, but it was more.
I see your point about the Wii.
But what about the older ones? They don't sell new games anymore for any of the other consoles, as far as I know. Yeah, virtual console has some, but what do you think is the most legitimate / honest way to get the really old ones?
But what about the older ones? They don't sell new games anymore for any of the other consoles, as far as I know. Yeah, virtual console has some, but what do you think is the most legitimate / honest way to get the really old ones?
personally Im a console fag. and love playing on a console. it just feels right to me. Growing up if I wanted a game i found away to get it legitly. But if the game is no longer in production I understand. I mean if ya wanna play old school super metroid by all means use an emulator. Kinda like pirating an elvis song. After that intial commet everything I said was specifically to see how many red thumbs I could get. And my god did I get a metric **** Ton.
Admin ****** something up so most of the thumbs are gone, but many years ago some dumbass anon decided to speak the legendary words:
"9/11? What? That wasn't even remotely funny.
Neither was the last post. This pic fails."
The Chosen Dumbass, not realizing the power of those words, spoke them.
All of FJ gathered to thumb him down. Years later, we were still thumbing him down.
Eventually, that anon became sort of a pilgrimage. He gathered -20,000 thumbs.
Legend has it that one day, somebody will speak stupider words and beat that anon's record.
Mcstorms may be the new Chosen Dumbass after all.
TLDR: Anon said something dumb, got -20,000
I wanted it to sound like a legend
"9/11? What? That wasn't even remotely funny.
Neither was the last post. This pic fails."
The Chosen Dumbass, not realizing the power of those words, spoke them.
All of FJ gathered to thumb him down. Years later, we were still thumbing him down.
Eventually, that anon became sort of a pilgrimage. He gathered -20,000 thumbs.
Legend has it that one day, somebody will speak stupider words and beat that anon's record.
Mcstorms may be the new Chosen Dumbass after all.
TLDR: Anon said something dumb, got -20,000
I wanted it to sound like a legend
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stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
Thank you
So tell me, did you expect to spark this magnitude of ********* ? Or did you expect just -20, -50?
So tell me, did you expect to spark this magnitude of ********* ? Or did you expect just -20, -50?
THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS PISSED OFF AT YOU, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!
Besides buying some of the old flash game packs at humble bundle or steam there is no other way to get a hold of those games since the systems that are used to play them are no longer produced, most used ones aren't operable and those that are are very rare to find. Hence it's the only way to play most of those games. Plus the games mostly are no longer sold, meaning you don't steal someones profits by flashing them, it's under the fair use category if you don't sell them as your own. I'm glad you got all those red thumbs, ******* retard
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buriedstpatrick (02/25/2015) [-]
Lol. I'm just gonna' add to the pile here.
These games would not be sold otherwise, other than from second hand purchases, where the money doesn't go to the developer. There is literally not a problem to be found here.
Haha, god, you're a ******* retard.
These games would not be sold otherwise, other than from second hand purchases, where the money doesn't go to the developer. There is literally not a problem to be found here.
Haha, god, you're a ******* retard.
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skeletorexplains ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
As someone who sells old PS2 / PSX games, This sentence is completely correct.
I have games that are worth pretty much top dollar because they're collectables, But it doesn't mean i'd sell them immediately as sad as that is.
But yeah, I put emulators on my PC Just to play those games, Or download the games i had that no longer worked (Like digimon world.)
So you get a thumb from me for knowing your **** .
I have games that are worth pretty much top dollar because they're collectables, But it doesn't mean i'd sell them immediately as sad as that is.
But yeah, I put emulators on my PC Just to play those games, Or download the games i had that no longer worked (Like digimon world.)
So you get a thumb from me for knowing your **** .
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twilightdusk (02/25/2015) [-]
You know, even if you go by legalities, the emulator isn't the illegal part, it's the ROM or ISO files that are. Emulators for disk-based systems like the PS2 can let you play a physical PS2 disk on your computer and that's completely legit.
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WillWalrus (02/25/2015) [-]
If someone steals your car, but it's still there when you wake up, is it really theft?
No it's not. Theft is theft and piracy is piracy.
**** off.
No it's not. Theft is theft and piracy is piracy.
**** off.
I don't see how it's stealing when the games for those consoles are no longer in production and all the existing copies up for pre-owned sale don't earn them a penny anyway.
kek. too bad its entirely legal because the systems arent in production anymore.
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stonetomcat (02/25/2015) [-]
I know I've already said this, but...
None of that money goes to the developers even if you did buy it.
And also, what I neglected to mention is the fact that:
Out of all the trolls, the red thumbwhores, the idiots, those who try to get red thumbs
You get -1,000 with honest opinions. And I've had conversations with you, you're not a troll
Like...
**** , man.
None of that money goes to the developers even if you did buy it.
And also, what I neglected to mention is the fact that:
Out of all the trolls, the red thumbwhores, the idiots, those who try to get red thumbs
You get -1,000 with honest opinions. And I've had conversations with you, you're not a troll
Like...
**** , man.
"Certain emulation programs and ROMs are not illegal. It would depend on several things --- like if there are no other means to run an Atari game for example, the emulator is legal, and the ROM image -- provided you flash'ed it from your original cartridge -- legal for your personal use" - IGN article on emulators. the downloading of the games is technically illegal but the owners of said gme have reached a point where they make no money off of the games that are circling on the market so they literally dont care m88
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doctorprofessornv ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm sorry to say but you brought this upon yourself.
Not a good idea to insult the mustard rice on a website that is almost 70% mustard rice.
Not a good idea to insult the mustard rice on a website that is almost 70% mustard rice.
I would, but that would require having money. Also I am honor bound to play the Halo series until its conclusion, so until then I must stick with the xbone.
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anon (02/25/2015) [-]
You realise any money made from people going out and buying these consoles is no longer money in the devs pockets? It's just a long line of reselling at this point.
Plus you can't even GET some of this stuff reasonably anymore.
Think before you form such ******* extreme opinions, research and **** dude, back up your ******* extremism, you ******* **** .
Plus you can't even GET some of this stuff reasonably anymore.
Think before you form such ******* extreme opinions, research and **** dude, back up your ******* extremism, you ******* **** .
but i can't buy the old snes games i want to play anymore =( and i never buy on e-bay and such. is it ok if i only download the old nintendo games?
ur allowed to pirate any game if u alrdy have the exact same copy legally
i.e i can torrent skyrim for pc all i want and use it on this pc only, cus i have a legal copy of skyrim
so emulators arent just for pirated games
i.e i can torrent skyrim for pc all i want and use it on this pc only, cus i have a legal copy of skyrim
so emulators arent just for pirated games
You just remembered me that i have an image file of prince of persia i need to install and play.
thx.
thx.
Except the companies literally make no money off those games anyhow. You cannot find a new copy of SSBM or Tekken.
holy mother of jesus, never have i seen this many red numbers on this website
The sheer amount of butthurt. It's like you raped someone The amount of tard is pushing me out of this place. I hope that moment is coming soon
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Obvious troll is obvious.
All games (with precious few exemptions) are commissioned works by a company that are a collaborative effort. Once the game is no longer sellable (like 90% of all original gameboy games) the company generally abandons it, meaning that they do not care enough to start up a legal battle over digital copies. This would mean that the game is essentially free to play because the company just doesn't care, there is no money to be made off it.
That is why you will see some TV gamestation style devices that let you play 100's of classic games for around $10. Essentially those companies paid a lump sum to have legal right to redistribute the games. If you buy one, then you have legal right to play those games, but it still doesn't pay the original authors or company anything.
Once a game is abandoned, the company is no longer making money on it. Therefore it isn't technically stealing to play them.
Also, if you ever legally owned a game, you have legal right to have a digital copy of it (up to 3 actually) as long as you can prove you owned it. If you ever owned the system, then you have legal right to the electronic copy of the bios that powers an emulator.
Therefore, mcstorms, you are a moron, because emulators and roms can be legal. Most are in a technically grey area. Some abandonware games have officially been denounced, meaning that the publishers have stated that they don't care if people download them and playing them, which idemnify those people from persecution.
All games (with precious few exemptions) are commissioned works by a company that are a collaborative effort. Once the game is no longer sellable (like 90% of all original gameboy games) the company generally abandons it, meaning that they do not care enough to start up a legal battle over digital copies. This would mean that the game is essentially free to play because the company just doesn't care, there is no money to be made off it.
That is why you will see some TV gamestation style devices that let you play 100's of classic games for around $10. Essentially those companies paid a lump sum to have legal right to redistribute the games. If you buy one, then you have legal right to play those games, but it still doesn't pay the original authors or company anything.
Once a game is abandoned, the company is no longer making money on it. Therefore it isn't technically stealing to play them.
Also, if you ever legally owned a game, you have legal right to have a digital copy of it (up to 3 actually) as long as you can prove you owned it. If you ever owned the system, then you have legal right to the electronic copy of the bios that powers an emulator.
Therefore, mcstorms, you are a moron, because emulators and roms can be legal. Most are in a technically grey area. Some abandonware games have officially been denounced, meaning that the publishers have stated that they don't care if people download them and playing them, which idemnify those people from persecution.
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baltaismelnais (02/25/2015) [-]
**baltaismelnais used "*roll picture*"**
**baltaismelnais rolled image** I'm with you man, there is some strong faggotry at hand if poor fags can afford a pc but can't afford a cheap ass console. Besides, if the pc race is all high and mighty, how come we don't have ps3 and xbox360 emulators?
**baltaismelnais rolled image** I'm with you man, there is some strong faggotry at hand if poor fags can afford a pc but can't afford a cheap ass console. Besides, if the pc race is all high and mighty, how come we don't have ps3 and xbox360 emulators?
I did, and all I found that it's only on it's way here, just like it was for the past years. Same goes for ps3. Coming here and being fully functional are two different things.
Dumbass
Dumbass
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Then you are an even bigger dumbass because you didn't read enough.
It is here. It does work. I quote the website:
"In this second release we have been able to support many games."
Some games such as CoD:Black Ops have FULL FUNCTIONALITY which is a plus on an emulator. I still have some gamecube games that I have to use the disc for because the emulators can't do them.
It is here. It does work. I quote the website:
"In this second release we have been able to support many games."
Some games such as CoD:Black Ops have FULL FUNCTIONALITY which is a plus on an emulator. I still have some gamecube games that I have to use the disc for because the emulators can't do them.
Corretion, I had to search deeper than the first few pages because there were fakes in the first few.
So, yeah, it is there, what now? Still doesn't change the fact that you can buy both the xbox and a decent pc + **** ton of games for the price of a pc that could run it smooth
So, yeah, it is there, what now? Still doesn't change the fact that you can buy both the xbox and a decent pc + **** ton of games for the price of a pc that could run it smooth
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
*looks over at my Xbox360 that broke down two years ago and is now used to steady a pile of books and then looks at my game collection for it that has been collecting dust*
Okay.
*looks at my gaming PC that has more than enough power to emulate the 360*
So, instead of just using what I have got, to legally play the games I legally purchased, I should instead go buy another xbox, or EVEN BETTER, pay Microsoft to fix it AGAIN, for the fourth time since I bought it when they first came out.
Okay.
*looks at my gaming PC that has more than enough power to emulate the 360*
So, instead of just using what I have got, to legally play the games I legally purchased, I should instead go buy another xbox, or EVEN BETTER, pay Microsoft to fix it AGAIN, for the fourth time since I bought it when they first came out.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but warranty repairs existed back then too
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah, for the first year after purchase, plus an extended time for the RRoD.
But if you are out of warranty, you have to pay out of pocket for repairs (or buy a care plan).
First breakdown: RRoD
Second breakdown: Laser eye failure
Third breakdown: Wireless controller transmitter thing shorted out.
Fourth breakdown: I get the error code for spindle failure (Disc Drive)
The fourth time, I said **** it, I'm not paying microsoft to fix this piece of **** again.
But if you are out of warranty, you have to pay out of pocket for repairs (or buy a care plan).
First breakdown: RRoD
Second breakdown: Laser eye failure
Third breakdown: Wireless controller transmitter thing shorted out.
Fourth breakdown: I get the error code for spindle failure (Disc Drive)
The fourth time, I said **** it, I'm not paying microsoft to fix this piece of **** again.
How much does the repair cost?
And maybe you just got unlucky with the purchase, a friend of mine still plays his xbox bought about one and a half year ago and it still hasn't got the need to fix it
And maybe you just got unlucky with the purchase, a friend of mine still plays his xbox bought about one and a half year ago and it still hasn't got the need to fix it
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
The last one cost me around $80 if I remember correctly.
I didn't ask about getting it done the 4th time. I personally think that after the 3rd major failure they should have replaced my system for free with a newer one.
I shouldn't be expected to pay twice for a single product. I loved the first xbox, and kinda liked the 360 until then. Nowadays, I see the xboxone and I"m just like, "So not paying for that heap of crap".
Especially since console games will likely be redundant in the near future. (Why pay for a new gaming PC every few years when you could just buy an unlocked gaming PC and upgrade it?) The way things are going, consoles are just small gaming computers that can only do one thing anyways, why not go ahead and cut to the chase.
Most decent games are released for PC anyways, you can use any controller with the PC, plus you can also do other things with a gaming PC.
I didn't ask about getting it done the 4th time. I personally think that after the 3rd major failure they should have replaced my system for free with a newer one.
I shouldn't be expected to pay twice for a single product. I loved the first xbox, and kinda liked the 360 until then. Nowadays, I see the xboxone and I"m just like, "So not paying for that heap of crap".
Especially since console games will likely be redundant in the near future. (Why pay for a new gaming PC every few years when you could just buy an unlocked gaming PC and upgrade it?) The way things are going, consoles are just small gaming computers that can only do one thing anyways, why not go ahead and cut to the chase.
Most decent games are released for PC anyways, you can use any controller with the PC, plus you can also do other things with a gaming PC.
True, true. Console gaming is dying out right now and mainly the thing keeping it alive are the exclusive games.
It's true PC is superior to consoles, and that the consoles are bound to die out (Except the handheld ones, PC can't be carried around like that).
Though it still remains "sort-of-a" dick move to pirate off the emulators and console games, unless you had bought the thing like you have
And I tried out the xbox emulator out of curiosity, it wroks well along with the free 9 adwares it carries in it.
It's true PC is superior to consoles, and that the consoles are bound to die out (Except the handheld ones, PC can't be carried around like that).
Though it still remains "sort-of-a" dick move to pirate off the emulators and console games, unless you had bought the thing like you have
And I tried out the xbox emulator out of curiosity, it wroks well along with the free 9 adwares it carries in it.
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
The adwares are usually optional in the install, you just gotta be careful before clicking next.
It is how the emulator devs get money from doing what they do.
Also, I didn't buy every game I have on emulators. I buy what I can but a lot of what I have are abandonware. I like to keep my ass covered should my PC/Wii ever be searched.
I now consider the nintendo Wii to be the best gaming system of ALL time. But this is due to its homebrew capabilities. I have all the games I've ever owned (aside from ps2, dreamcast, xbox, and newer on my wii and some abandonware. My old gaming systems are in storage somewhere and I don't need them if I ever want to nostalgia about playing them in my younger days. I don't actually use my PC for emulating all that much, my Wii does most of that.
It is how the emulator devs get money from doing what they do.
Also, I didn't buy every game I have on emulators. I buy what I can but a lot of what I have are abandonware. I like to keep my ass covered should my PC/Wii ever be searched.
I now consider the nintendo Wii to be the best gaming system of ALL time. But this is due to its homebrew capabilities. I have all the games I've ever owned (aside from ps2, dreamcast, xbox, and newer on my wii and some abandonware. My old gaming systems are in storage somewhere and I don't need them if I ever want to nostalgia about playing them in my younger days. I don't actually use my PC for emulating all that much, my Wii does most of that.
I didn't mash through the "Next" buttons, not that kind of a noob. They hid most of it, and while you could untick the searchbars and such, they still snuk in alot of adware.
I've lost much of the games I used to own on the old consoles, and many I've forgotten, so that sucks
I've lost much of the games I used to own on the old consoles, and many I've forgotten, so that sucks
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linxindao (02/25/2015) [-]
If you ever owned them, then you're safe. Even if you ever went to court, most you would get is a warning, if you can prove that you ever owned the game (including testimony from family), unless it is abandonware.
Abandonware fall into a legal "grey area" and even moreso, some games have been deliberately surrendered by their publishers.
Google search liberatedgames.
Abandonware fall into a legal "grey area" and even moreso, some games have been deliberately surrendered by their publishers.
Google search liberatedgames.
I can prove that I owned them since I still have the cases of the old game I really liked, since I never could part with them. Same goes for the consoles, since I still have them, but not a TV I can hook them up to
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fluffysteal (02/25/2015) [-]
what out guys, there's a troll in the dungeon!
or at least a really really autistic mongoloid looking ************ who does not understand what the **** an emulator is. or the ******* economy.
or at least a really really autistic mongoloid looking ************ who does not understand what the **** an emulator is. or the ******* economy.
Yeah, poor Sega and all their lost profits when I emulate a Dreamcast game instead of buy it....
I didn't have the space to bring my PS2 to uni so I downloaded an emulator to play Okami and SotC, both of which I own.
The vast majority of games one would play on those haven't been in production for years.
You can buy some from the Wii network but aside from that none of them are available.
Giving the developers money for them would be impossible. You could purchase an owned copy but that would only feed gamestop.
You can buy some from the Wii network but aside from that none of them are available.
Giving the developers money for them would be impossible. You could purchase an owned copy but that would only feed gamestop.
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penalcupcake (02/25/2015) [-]
OP trying to debate this is about as successful as this good samaritan is at freeing a sheep.
we're on FJ, it's called "thumb down"
also, **** you, i'm a pirate.
also, **** you, i'm a pirate.
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lipshinuken (02/25/2015) [-]
Have you ever even downloaded the DLC?
Just because games company's sell you half a product legally doesn't mean it's morally right. Besides, all of those consoles title's can be found in any bargain/charity store for like £5 or less. They already made insane profits on launch. **** em!
Just because games company's sell you half a product legally doesn't mean it's morally right. Besides, all of those consoles title's can be found in any bargain/charity store for like £5 or less. They already made insane profits on launch. **** em!
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anon (02/25/2015) [-]
The reason PC is the master race is because companies can't scam us with their half finished games and selling the other half as DLC ******** cause we'll just pirate it. If it's a really good game that deserves to be purchased, people will buy them. Also we have MMO's, so you console poor fags can go cry in a corner.
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grasman (02/25/2015) [-]
In fact I'm building a ps1 and ps2 game collection as I write this.
Those games are long gone from the market.
Even if I wanted I couldn't buy them anymore.
Except from other people and that wouldn't bring any more money in the pockets of the developers than just downloading it.
This problem wouldn't even exist to this extand if the console asshats would release their **** on the pc as well.
Because there are good games on consoles, but I'm noot buying a console too play a few several games on it.
So my only chance is to emulate them.
But noo I'm probably wrong with this argument.
Many people are interested in retro gaming or simply playing the games they played in their childhood.
But not all of those people can afford to actually hunt down all those games and the hardware to play them on on ebay or whatever.
There are rare games that cost thousands of dollars but I can get the rom for free and just play it.
So with all due respect, keep your ****** opinion to yourself.
Those games are long gone from the market.
Even if I wanted I couldn't buy them anymore.
Except from other people and that wouldn't bring any more money in the pockets of the developers than just downloading it.
This problem wouldn't even exist to this extand if the console asshats would release their **** on the pc as well.
Because there are good games on consoles, but I'm noot buying a console too play a few several games on it.
So my only chance is to emulate them.
But noo I'm probably wrong with this argument.
Many people are interested in retro gaming or simply playing the games they played in their childhood.
But not all of those people can afford to actually hunt down all those games and the hardware to play them on on ebay or whatever.
There are rare games that cost thousands of dollars but I can get the rom for free and just play it.
So with all due respect, keep your ****** opinion to yourself.
If you own the cartridge, it's not stealing if you download the rom...also PS1 and PS2 emulators can use the original discs...so...
I liked the trists voice even though it didnt sound like trist
Hey dick ******* tittle twist, not all gaming systems are available anymore, i haven't seen a Sega dreamcast in ******* 6 years, i even checked eBay, if it's discontinued, you can piracy the games for it, it's ok because you can't find that bitch anywhere.
Go **** your fathers now detached limbs (you can thank me for that later) you liberal piece of hipster faggotry.
-Sincerely,
Everyone everywhere
Go **** your fathers now detached limbs (you can thank me for that later) you liberal piece of hipster faggotry.
-Sincerely,
Everyone everywhere
Not trying to say you're wrong or anything.. however I got a dreamcast from my local G2K not even 4 months back..
Piracy helped me to understand computers. to get software's i could not afford to help me to work on computers.
when i bought Genuine windows vista. i installed it on 3 PC. after this the serial didnt work because 3 limited activation
WHAT........ I WASTED 100KD FOR THIS!!! NOW IT IS USELESS!
and here is my story for having pirated software's. but for video games i pirate if only necessary.
WHAT........ I WASTED 100KD FOR THIS!!! NOW IT IS USELESS!
and here is my story for having pirated software's. but for video games i pirate if only necessary.
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thesweetscientist (02/25/2015) [-]
But if I buy all of my games, I won't have enough money to pay your mother for sex.
a LONG time ago on the Super Nintendo i had this Jurassic park game that was the best part of my childhood. I remembered it one day and try as i might i couldn't find a copy of it ANYWHERE. No matter were i looked.
The only way it would seem i would be able to play this remnant of a time long past was through Emulators. This and that one power rangers game. I still find it fun. i still have all my old consoles, But finding those games for a decent price is impossible.
Most of these old ass random games are NOT for sale on any platform of console store. On occasion i find gems such as Dino Crisis, which is nice, but otherwise, Not gonna happen.
The only way it would seem i would be able to play this remnant of a time long past was through Emulators. This and that one power rangers game. I still find it fun. i still have all my old consoles, But finding those games for a decent price is impossible.
Most of these old ass random games are NOT for sale on any platform of console store. On occasion i find gems such as Dino Crisis, which is nice, but otherwise, Not gonna happen.
information wants to be free. and free it shall be if possible.
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NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Sorry, but, no. 90% of games made for a system are NOT on virtual stores. For you to believe otherwise only proves your own foolishness.
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NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
You made the positive claim that 90% of games are on PSN (or relevant store). But, since you appear to be a 12 year old X-Box Live kid, proof shall smite you directly in the testicles that have not dropped yet.
240 PS1 games on the PSN, while 1,248 were released. This is a whopping 19.23%, which is nowhere near your claim of 90%.
240 PS1 games on the PSN, while 1,248 were released. This is a whopping 19.23%, which is nowhere near your claim of 90%.
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NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Those numbers are even worse for older systems. Try finding even 5% of the NES, Sega Genesis, or SNES libraries without using an emulator.
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NereidALbel (02/25/2015) [-]
Then you haven't tried. Nintendo doesn't seem to like putting 3rd party games on their store, finding NES games is nigh impossible, and there's no store dedicated to classic Sega games.
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malaysianflight (02/25/2015) [-]
It's not really stealing. It's more of reverse engineering the programming to work on the computer. We all know who made the games, get ya panties out of your ass and enjoy the games.
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malaysianflight (02/25/2015) [-]
They don't even sell or produce it anymore... They aren't losing any money. It's open market stuff now.
Wow you're ******* stupid. You have every single thing about PC gaming because some people use emulators? I got punched in the face by a black kid when I was 9, I guess now I should hate all black people right? Some people watch TV shows that I don't like, I guess I hate everything about TV now. Some people put illegal music on their phones and iPods, guess I hate all of those too.
is it still stealing if they haven't sold the product in 30 years and no longer rely on it to make revenue.
why dont you go yell at the people who illegally download music then
theres a lot more of them than us
theres a lot more of them than us
He deserved the other down votes but why here it is an amusing picture
I don't hate you because everyone hates you.
I hate you because you provided ****** arguments, based off ethical dogma, ignorant to the circumstances.
You think the creative developers of the game will benefit if I buy it for God-knows-how-much from some pawn store?
Did you consider effort went into "refurbishing" the game, to modern platforms? Effort that is arguably wasted, instead of just emulating the ******* thing? The way coding works is that developers typically reuse code. They don't code everything from scratch- if some seperate, independent developers wanted to use randomly generated numbers in their software, each and everyone would code their own random number generator, instead of using the one that comes with whatever dev kit they use e.g Java? Your argument is that developers should get more money for more work, done to create their own Rn-Generator instead of just using whatever the **** already exists. That is not a productive (or even efficient) endeavour that should be compensated with money/goods/services/livelihood.
This is the information age, and you are treating data/information like goods.
**** you.
I hate you because you provided ****** arguments, based off ethical dogma, ignorant to the circumstances.
You think the creative developers of the game will benefit if I buy it for God-knows-how-much from some pawn store?
Did you consider effort went into "refurbishing" the game, to modern platforms? Effort that is arguably wasted, instead of just emulating the ******* thing? The way coding works is that developers typically reuse code. They don't code everything from scratch- if some seperate, independent developers wanted to use randomly generated numbers in their software, each and everyone would code their own random number generator, instead of using the one that comes with whatever dev kit they use e.g Java? Your argument is that developers should get more money for more work, done to create their own Rn-Generator instead of just using whatever the **** already exists. That is not a productive (or even efficient) endeavour that should be compensated with money/goods/services/livelihood.
This is the information age, and you are treating data/information like goods.
**** you.
"Im going to be 100% honest a lot of what you said confused me."
Well, you at least have *some* redeeming factors. So, do you understand now?
"...but now that you hate me everything I do is gonna piss you off."
I'm not sure what it is that makes you think I'll hate you no matter what, but even I recognize that at some point, people deserve forgiveness. I don't expect you to bother wanting to redeem yourself in my eyes, because I'm just some random shmuck on the internet.
Well, you at least have *some* redeeming factors. So, do you understand now?
"...but now that you hate me everything I do is gonna piss you off."
I'm not sure what it is that makes you think I'll hate you no matter what, but even I recognize that at some point, people deserve forgiveness. I don't expect you to bother wanting to redeem yourself in my eyes, because I'm just some random shmuck on the internet.
Except for the part where you can't buy any of that **** anymore, and the only way to play those games without shelling out thousands for collecter items is to use an emulator. and, newsflash, if you actaully buy the consoles and cartridges for all that **** , you aren't giving money to the producer, you're giving money to some ******** in his basement who knows he can rip you off for a few hundred bucks. Get off your high ******* horse and use that damn pile of grey noodles in between your ears.
Yeah I'll get right on buying a Sega Saturn game on my wii...
look I'm all for not stealing games... but after a while the guys who made the original game won't get to see the money anymore so who cares.
If I want to play Chrono Trigger on my ipad I damn well will play Chrono Trigger on my ipad
look I'm all for not stealing games... but after a while the guys who made the original game won't get to see the money anymore so who cares.
If I want to play Chrono Trigger on my ipad I damn well will play Chrono Trigger on my ipad
But there are still a large quantity of missing titles. it's definatley not the proverbial 90% you claim. on the nintendo store, it's only large, first party games, a lot gets lost, the PSN is missing quite a few good PS2 and PS1 titles, and as far as original xbox games go, digital ports are pretty rare. A good example would be, what if you wanted to play the original pokemon games? They don't have those available on the nintendo store (or at least they didn't last time I checked). If you can buy it through legitamate methods, you should, but since there's a lot that you can't, emulators have their place in legitimate gaming.
As I said earlier. THEY DON"T SELL THOSE ANYMROE! If I wanted to play it on an actaul gameboy, I'd have to buy one from some ******** on Ebay, as well as the cartridge, in which case the money is going to said ******** , not Nintendo. So emulator. I'm not shelling out a few hundred bucks to some dickhead on ebay for something that I can do for free. If nintendo still made and sold the gameboy advanced and cartridges of the original nintendo, I'd buy that, but htey don't, so what ******* difference does it make if I emulate it instead of buying it on ebay?
That's an option, but I don't know if you've actually been to any used game stores recently, the more sought out ones are unreasonably expensive, and no one asides from a hardcore collector would actually buy them. Final Fantasy VII retails for upwards of $200 everywhere I've seen, the original Silent Hill 2 goes for like 150$, etc.
You can still get your hands on the majority of PS2 & Xbox 360 titles easily enough from used game retailers, but everything prior to that generation is near impossible to get unless it's at a ridiculous price.
You can still get your hands on the majority of PS2 & Xbox 360 titles easily enough from used game retailers, but everything prior to that generation is near impossible to get unless it's at a ridiculous price.
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anon (02/25/2015) [-]
for PS2, Xbox, Gamecube... that is absolutely true. you could go buy these games from used games bins. but then you sold your x-box a long ass time ago, and then you just have to copy the ISO from the disc into your computer and run it through an... emulator
for the older machines like the NES, SNES, Dreamcast, PS1, N64, Genesis, whathaveyou... you can only find them nowadays in the back of other people's closets, or in their official cases still. one you will not be able to reach, cause people are lazy. the other you wont be able to afford, cause the people that sell them treat them as collector's items. So the only to play them is to emulate them through online services
for the older machines like the NES, SNES, Dreamcast, PS1, N64, Genesis, whathaveyou... you can only find them nowadays in the back of other people's closets, or in their official cases still. one you will not be able to reach, cause people are lazy. the other you wont be able to afford, cause the people that sell them treat them as collector's items. So the only to play them is to emulate them through online services
There is a store you could go to to get all those old systems... theexchange.com/
Guess what, if you buy a used game taht they don't mint anymore at gamestop, Nintendo (or whoever the original producer was) still doesn't get the money, it's a resale. so gamestop is out of the question as well. And I still maintain that it's not 90%, it's closer to 50-60%. and those 50-60%, you should buy from the first party, but the rest of them, why would I buy a resale copy if the money isnt' supporting the developer?
But here's the thing, they aren't keeping NEW copies in stock. they don't make the disk anymore, they're keeping trade-ins in stock. the money doesnt' go to the developer, so the only person you'd be supporting in that scenario is gamestop. and as far as PR goes, the resales are often included in sales numbers, but bragging about good sales doesn't matter after your games been out for more than a year. unless you're an MMO.
yeah sure, i'll just go shell out $100 bucks for a game that stopped being in production years ago and is only owned by collectors. If only there were a way to download and play video games that are out of production and have been so for years...
and what if you go out and buy the games for them?
where is your argument now?
where is your argument now?
You're either trolling or are ******* stupid. You do realize that a great deal of programming for console games is done ON computer's...right? In fact, most new consoles ARE small gaming computers with controller ports. DERP. Lastly, as someone who likes both, I must say...why not both?
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steamjester (02/25/2015) [-]
But..but...what about my T-85 Calculator? (Kidding. I don't own one and it'd be impractical to have one nowadays, unless you're a Math person). But yea, more or less. Here's a pic of someone playing Doom on a graphing calculator. I would've bought one myself for just that reason, though we now have smart phones which are around 30 bucks. Beats putting down a couple hundred for a Graphing Calculator.
That went so many places in one go that i'm not even gonna try to understand which parts were relevant and which weren't
I'm sorry but I'm not going to go out and repurchase all my games on past consoles off the wii market just so I don't have to hook up my older consoles everytime I want to play a game or maybe I want to play a game that isn't sold anymore in stores I still ain't going to buy a wii just to buy it off their store on the off chance they even have the game . But I do have some limits and don't pirate games for consoles that are still being made.
the products are out of production retard
the producers of the production no longer produce the product, so they dont get revenue off of it anyways
the producers of the production no longer produce the product, so they dont get revenue off of it anyways
Yeah, I'm going to go download ATARI BREAKOUT from the ******* PSN store.
Wip3out Special Edition, WipEout 2097, Tekken 3, Ace Combat, Gran Turismo, Grand Theft Auto 1, Demolition Derby, Tony Hawk's series, among many others...there's that...
No I don't support stealing **** either...it's ******* stupid and unethical (and I've been there myself lol), but it's people's desicion in the long run and I keep my ******* nose out of their business...why are you offended?
No I don't support stealing **** either...it's ******* stupid and unethical (and I've been there myself lol), but it's people's desicion in the long run and I keep my ******* nose out of their business...why are you offended?
Gotta realize that not everyone is like that though, don't start generalizing lol...but I get what you're saying...there are "those" kind of people. I'm a pc gamer too (or laptop...I play Terraria, **** it) but I've owned every PS console so far (except PS4 because there are "no games" yet) and I've taken care of my PS1 since I was a kid.
Sidetrack, whatever, just don't generalize.
Sidetrack, whatever, just don't generalize.
The only people who say pc master race are the people who are joking, and the dumbasses that can't tell it's a joke.
and you fall in the latter category. Are you genuinely this stupid or are you trolling?
Can you read? I said "people who say master race". I wasn't aware that every single person on the planet use that phrase frequently.
Yes. And your point? Mine is that most people use it as a joke, and the only people that use it seriously are the guys who can't tell the others are joking (which I haven't seen a single person EVER say it seriously, only people who complain about the phrase pc master race)
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kiratheunholy (02/25/2015) [-]
Ah yes I too like to mindlessly punch people that disagree with my opinion.
It really shows you are of superior mind when you refuse to restrain yourself from primal urges of violence at a moment's discontent.
It really shows you are of superior mind when you refuse to restrain yourself from primal urges of violence at a moment's discontent.
Obviously you are joking? trolling?Something else? If you really aren't, I recommend psychological help.
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zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Heres my issue with that. One it's not stealing. Stealing means you no longer have the property. It is still there. I have made a copy of it. But you yourself still have your copy. Second, I pirate games to try them. Think of it as a forced demo. If I like it, I pay for it. In hopes that they will keep making games I like. If I dont I uninstall and do not purchase it. If I dont have the money I pirate it and pay for it when I can. If I can't pay for it ever/forget about it. Then they've lost nothing. I didn't have the money, they would not have recieved my non existent money at the time, and I would have never remembered about this game to begin with. So I don't see the problem here as long as you pay for what you can.
most people who pirate buy the game if they like it.
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zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
How would you know and if so so what? odds are if you're just gonna pirate it you probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place. I really like super mario 64 but if you think im willing to go out and buy a nintendo 64 for 80 bucks and the game for 30-200 (depending on who you buy it from) youre wrong. I'd much rather buy an emulator.
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gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
What if someone has no way to obtain the console in question or the games?
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gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
No there's not. Are you so incredibly deluded and stuck up in your own thinking that you cannot consider others arguements? Do you always have to be right or something?
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gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
Life necessities > Gaming consoles
If you can't buy it, pirate it instead. If you can buy it, then buy it. If you've pirated it, and now you can buy it, buy it.
And what if there's literally no way to obtain the console in question, regardless of money.
The games themselves are exclusive to that console, there will never be and are no remakes of them, they are unobtainable except through emulation. Same with the console.
If you can't buy it, pirate it instead. If you can buy it, then buy it. If you've pirated it, and now you can buy it, buy it.
And what if there's literally no way to obtain the console in question, regardless of money.
The games themselves are exclusive to that console, there will never be and are no remakes of them, they are unobtainable except through emulation. Same with the console.
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gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
In alot of places including other countries, you cannot obtain these consoles.
Yet the person may have access to internet and a computer, and can emulate them.
That and who would spend hundreds of dollars to buy an age-old console that's effectively worth less than 50$, and on a game possibly worth hundreds dollars that would get shat on if it was made and sold for so much today.
It's easy for you to say this, but not so much for everyone else who isn't stuck up and doesn't have to be always right.
Yet the person may have access to internet and a computer, and can emulate them.
That and who would spend hundreds of dollars to buy an age-old console that's effectively worth less than 50$, and on a game possibly worth hundreds dollars that would get shat on if it was made and sold for so much today.
It's easy for you to say this, but not so much for everyone else who isn't stuck up and doesn't have to be always right.
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gangbangtime (02/25/2015) [-]
Yet everyone disagrees with you, presents reasons as to why emulating is A-okay, and you still go "NO ITS JUST WRONG YOU CAN JUST BUY THE CONSOLE"
It's as though you just can't comprehend being wrong.
It's as though you just can't comprehend being wrong.
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zombieplayground ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Because I didn't have the foresight as a 10 year old to see me wanting a n64 when I'm 20, but that's a stupid question. What if it was just a friends n64 and I never owned it. You're still stuck in the same situation.
