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Ryan Carr 7/ 9/ 13
in Am I racist if I feel uncomfortable
es, about a guy with a turban on my
plane becauae this ion l okay with me
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Singh
ugh I know when you
mean, I get really uncomfortable
whenever I see a white man walk
into a movie theater or elementary
school
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#2 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
A lot of school shooters in the US have been non-white. Sure, mostly men, and mostly white but there are more white people in the US than any other race. Per-capital, Asian people have been involved in more school shootings than whites.

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/keeping-kids-safe/201212/school-shooters-who-are-not-white-males

But if you look at plane hijackings in the United States
100% of the 9-11 hijackers were Muslims from the middle east.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

A white guy tried, but was quickly and easily subdued in 1994.
A black (Ethiopian) guy in 1993 hijacked a US owned plane, but it was over Europe...and then he surrendered. No deaths, no crash.

If you go back into the 80s - it's even worse. Lots of brown hijackings.

It's amazing at how exclusively brown/Muslim US hijackings are.
In 83 an Iranian man hijacked a plane
In 85 a Lebanese group hijacked a plane (and they killed some people)
In 86 lots of people died when a bunch of Pakistani people hijacked a plane
In 87 a Muslim tried to crash a hijacked plane into the White House

So yeah - if you see a Muslim on a plane - it's not wrong to be a little worried. They're SIGNIFICANTLY / disproportionally more likely to hijack a plane when compared to any other religion. Doubly so if they are 'brown' in skin color. Haters can hate, but this is 100% factual, sources included.

#48 to #2 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
That ethiopian guy sounds pretty french to me
#51 to #2 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
Its about rapists also,not just shooters.
#60 to #2 - nigeltheoutlaw (08/29/2014) [-]
Most hijackers being Muslim doesn't make most Muslims hijackers, so being worried is still stupid. You'd most likely have a greater chance of the plane crashing than being hijacked. You seem like a smart guy, why did you leave that part out? It's basic ******* statistics if you've ever taken a class.
User avatar #71 to #2 - krizz (08/29/2014) [-]
not a big surprise that the 9/11 hijacks were done by the same middles estern muslims

did anyone expect one of the planes were hijacked by two texans who where trying to get in to muslim heaven?
User avatar #6 to #2 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
lol everything you've said is stupid and pointless
#10 to #6 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
In your opinion, it might be stupid.
But it's not pointless.

There is a clear point. Factually, brown/Muslim people are virtually the sole perpetrators of plane hijackings in the United States over the last 40 years.

That's a point.
User avatar #11 to #10 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
Factually, a male child is more likely to be raped by a catholic priest than a figure in any other religion.

Kill all catholics, be scared of catholics, catholics WILL **** your children

That's how stupid you sound.
#12 to #11 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
You are building a strawman. That's what people do when they don't have real points to make.

1.) You haven't proven that.
2.) I never advocated killing anyone.
3.) I never implied that a greater statistical likelihood ensures that an event will happen. That's completely irrational.

And finally, I wouldn't leave my child unattended with a Catholic priest, so I'm not really sure what your point is? I guess ignorance is bliss - and you think everyone is a unique and precious snowflake, right?
User avatar #14 to #12 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
You sound like a retard that's scared of the world lol. Just grow the **** up. Nobody's gonna kill you
#16 to #14 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
Not leaving my child with strangers doesn't make me scared of the world. It makes me 'not a ****** parent'.
User avatar #17 to #16 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
when did I say anything about leaving your child with a stranger lol?

its your initial point, you can spend allll your days believing what you read, or alternatively believe what you see
#20 to #17 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
If you can't read, I can't help you.

Me: And finally, I wouldn't leave my child unattended with a Catholic priest
You: You sound like a retard that's scared of the world lol

As for what I believe, there isn't any room for arguing - I provided my sources. If you disagree with the data on Wikipedia - edit it or explain which plane hijacking I missed or got wrong. It's not my opinion, it's what actually happened.
User avatar #21 to #20 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
haha yeah YOU said that, not me

jesus
#22 to #21 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
When did *I* say YOU said that?

I didn't.

Also, my name is not jesus.

#56 to #22 - clifttbritt (08/29/2014) [-]
sikhs are not muslim. how many times was a hijacker actually wearing a turban?

in general muslims don't wear turbans unless they're some kind of goat ******* mullah that lives on a mountain.
#4 to #2 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
but know, you're right, seeing a muslim gives you a reason to be scared, ******* yank
User avatar #5 to #2 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
if you see a catholic, there's a high chance they'll want to **** your son
#8 to #5 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
That would make sense if....

1.) I were Catholic
2.) If I had a son
3.) You demonstrated (factually) that a disproportionate number of Catholics abuse sons.
User avatar #9 to #8 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

looks like some even happened in dublin!
#13 to #9 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
Your link only shows that abuse did happen. Also, your comment was about all Catholics, but your link is about priests/nuns in the Church.

But for your argument to make sense (and I'm not saying it doesn't, only that you haven't supported it), you'd need to demonstrate that Catholic church members abuse children AT A RATE HIGHER than other groups. Otherwise, you are just saying, Catholic church members do abuse children.

According to this - Catholic priests don't abuse children any more frequently than other men. www.newsweek.com/priests-commit-no-more-abuse-other-males-70625

Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue.

But, if you look at plane hijackings in the US - there is CLEARLY evidence that certain groups are (almost exclusively) responsible.
User avatar #15 to #13 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
Look at the BBC scandal. Was there any mention of their religion? Islam is a religion purposely being targeted in a negative way. I notice that and I'm not even Muslim
#18 to #15 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
I'm not claiming otherwise. Maybe some people are purposely looking for ways/reasons to attack Islam as a group.

I'm not religious. I'm not Catholic. I'm not Islamic. I don't care either way.

But if there is a factual pattern, there is no sense in pretending there isn't. If 100% of school shooters are white, it's okay to say, 'White people need to stop shooting up schools.'

Brown people need to stop hijacking planes.
User avatar #19 to #18 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
Define brown
User avatar #3 to #2 - decapitation (08/28/2014) [-]
muslims don't wear turbans though lol
#7 to #3 - robuntu (08/28/2014) [-]
To an American - it's all the same.

If it's not a baseball cap or a winter hat, and the wearer is brown - they'd call it a turban.

Beyond that some Muslims do wear turbans. But a skull cap or a kufiya / ghoutra / iqal or whatever else....is just going to be called a turban.

User avatar #44 to #7 - commontroll ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
Can't believe you're leaving out the most American hat of all: The Cowboy Hat.
User avatar #37 to #2 - rhetoricalfunny ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
As a native boy, I am scared of white people. I am scared to be walking alone at night, in a white neighborhood. Because statistically, natives are targeted greater than ANY other race. And nigh exclusively by white people.

We compose just barely 4%, and we've only broken that mark in recent years.

And yet we compose more than 25% of the incarcerated individuals.

Between 1980, and 2012 14% of all female murder victims were aboriginal, 17% of all male murder victims. Were aboriginal.

How is less than 4% of the population represented to that degree?!

Because walking around in the sketch/ghetto part of town. Among a bunch of other colored people who would probably have no qualms killing a white guy who says ****** flippantly, I feel much safer than when I'm walking home at night and I see the headlights of a van. Because 1. That driver is probably white. 2. I could be killed right now, my body wouldn't be found for around a month and the police wouldn't even care.

Search Colton Crowshoe if you think I'm exaggerating.
User avatar #39 to #37 - rhetoricalfunny ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
I'd also like to point out that the former situation is indeed a gross exaggeration and I am happy that no area like that exists in this city. Seriously, the sketch parts of town are actually pretty trendy. The hobos have established a complex trade network, and it's inclusive of all colors of people.

Chances are if you were killed it wasn't because of your color. Unless you were native.
User avatar #26 to #2 - tittylovin (08/29/2014) [-]
Dude, that's logic.
Get that **** outta here.
User avatar #55 to #26 - anonymoose ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
It's not really. He doesn't use any statistics, just says there are more white people so there should be more white shootings. There could still be a proportionally higher amount of white school shooters.
User avatar #36 to #2 - rhetoricalfunny ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

100% of hiijackers are not brown

Per capital doesn't really count for much when the actual frequencey of the event in question is so low. You can't compare the amount of asians to the amount of asians who are mass murderers.

Rather you have to compare the amount of mass murderers (shooters?) to the amount of shooters who are asian.

The reality is that if you consider how big the "brown" population is. Seriously, anywhere from the middle east, parts of Asia, South America, Latin America, Spain, native North Americans.

Now obviously not all brown people dress in traditional Islamic or Sikh, or practically any other middle eastern religion which includes a traditional headdress

I'm not even sure what point I'm making here, but I'm gonna keep going for a sec
User avatar #38 to #2 - rhetoricalfunny ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
But back to my original point, (if I had one)

Let's go with black people. It's fair to be wary of a posse of black people because you're white. They don't exactly have the best history of understanding, but to be fair neither do white people.

What isn't fair is to be afraid that someone will hiijack a plane or bomb a bus just because they're wearing a traditional head-clothing stuff that you don't know the significance behind.

There are situations in which it is fair to be cautious. Walking around alone at night is one of them no matter what. The original point is that the ridiculousness of the former situation, is as ridiculous as the latter. But no one ever thinks about the latter.

In my humble opinion it's because white people prefer to think that white people can do no wrong. But whatever.
User avatar #52 to #2 - anonymoose ONLINE (08/29/2014) [-]
Only 20 school shootings were listed there of people who weren't white males.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

This lists about +1200 cases of school shootings in America alone. 8 school shootings (the amount of Asian school shooters the article says there have been) would be ~0.67% of school shootings, which is tiny since 4.4% of America are asian.
#46 to #2 - philosophyxplain (08/29/2014) [-]
If you take the times a muslim takes a plane and the times a muslim hijacks a plane, you're a ******* idiot if you worry about a dude in a turban hijacking your plane.

Even more stupid if you tweet about it...and yes, it means you're racist.
User avatar #29 to #2 - spookyexplain (08/29/2014) [-]
Its stereotyping, it has nothing to do with actual numbers.
#73 to #29 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
Stereotypes come from somewhere.
#76 to #73 - angelusprimus (08/29/2014) [-]
Yes.
Sometimes from actual repeated actions by a certain group.
Mostly by whiny weaklings who react to anything that's different by being scared and suspicious of it.
#43 to #2 - elaxx (08/29/2014) [-]
B-b-but /pol/ told me Jews did 9-11.
#75 to #43 - angelusprimus (08/29/2014) [-]
You are not reading right.
/pol/ thinks it was done by arabs, but they were hired by american government who was manipulated into doing it by the jews.
/pol/ also thinks jews are guilty for every crime in history, including those done in Japan during age of isolation. Also, jews are the reason why /pol/ members weren't hugged much by their mommies as children.
User avatar #72 to #43 - moorgar (08/29/2014) [-]
who do you think owned these muslims?
User avatar #28 - crazyanimal (08/29/2014) [-]
With all the god damn body searches and bag/item regulations there are I feel pretty safe
User avatar #31 to #28 - fishinyourface (08/29/2014) [-]
I don't entirely when half of the people monitoring the carry ons on those little machines, take all of 2 seconds to look at the screen before chatting with their coworkers and sending the bags through...

yes I'm aware not all of them do this, but the ones I've seen have...
#68 - lectionn (08/29/2014) [-]
I'm surprised no-one's commented (as far as my short search went) on how the man may well have been sikh.

User avatar #78 to #68 - jokekill (08/29/2014) [-]
Every Sikh i've met has been cool with me.
#54 - phuzebox (08/29/2014) [-]
Ashish's face when
Ashish's face when
#58 - Sunset (08/29/2014) [-]
is it racist if black people are photographed doing stereotypically black things?
#35 - knightgiver (08/29/2014) [-]
Is it racist if I call all black people rapists and greedy ******* who steal from the innocent?
#49 to #35 - blackmanrollipolli (08/29/2014) [-]
no. the fact is, most rapists are black and most blacks are greedy lazy rude ignorant annoying people who sit on their ass all day pulling welfare from hardworking citizens. it's just statistics.
#63 to #49 - gtfomylawnbish (08/29/2014) [-]
Quick story.

I live in Indy and most of the black people here are outright ******* . Not black, but ******* . When I travel around the US it's not like this everywhere. I was in Williamsburg Va a couple of years ago and I got a flat. While I'm changing it 2 different black families stopped to see if I wanted or needed help. The second guy insisted on helping "because it's the right thing to do" and I made a condition, only if he'd let me buy him and his wife dinner. His condition was that I joined them. I did, and they were wonderful people. At the end of dinner he even argued about who gets to pick up the check. He said if I paid then he would take care of the tip. He left the waitress a 45.00 tip, equal to the bill. I still talk to them on Facebook.

I was in Atlanta a few years ago in the "bad part of town" and a group of what looked like thugs pulled up and the driver says "We waitin here till you done so no one ***** with you white boy" and they just sat and waited until I finished. I thanked them and asked them why and he said "I'm sick of seeing white people ****** up in my neighborhood for nothing"

It's not the color of their skin. There's many who want exactly what we want and nothing less. In my area, if I'd never traveled outside of here I'd think all black people are ******* .
#83 to #63 - blackmanrollipolli (09/01/2014) [-]
that's great, not all of them are, that's why i said "Most." In fact, you agreed with me completely...?
#84 to #83 - gtfomylawnbish (09/01/2014) [-]
I also thumbed you up. I'm not sure why you thought I was disagreeing...
#57 to #49 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
>sit on your ass
>worse than working
#41 to #35 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
>black
>people
pick one
#45 to #35 - alphashell (08/29/2014) [-]
mfw FJ goes KKK-mode
User avatar #69 to #45 - envinite (08/29/2014) [-]
What's the big deal?

Triple K a day keep the ********* away
#1 - anon (08/28/2014) [-]
Well if hes in america you see alot of white men going into a school or a theatre but a allah akbar in a plane is kinda rare soo...
User avatar #27 - volksunion (08/29/2014) [-]
no you're not racist because arab isnt a race
youre only racist if you hate a race
you're descriminatory against arabs if you dont like arabs
#33 to #27 - marioauditore (08/29/2014) [-]
In some places the word arab is used to describe middle-east looking people. Much like "latin" is used to describe south-americans and spanish, even though the word literally means "from Latium" an Italian region.
User avatar #25 - bakinboy (08/29/2014) [-]
the answer is always yes "unless its ******* "
#32 - ubercookieboy (08/29/2014) [-]
I get really uncomfortable too
User avatar #47 to #32 - ninjalllama (08/29/2014) [-]
he invented 4D i say we should reward the man
User avatar #82 - imagnetsux (08/29/2014) [-]
am I racist if I hate ******* ?
User avatar #74 - hikewne (08/29/2014) [-]
Am I racist if the guy next to me keeps yelling "Allahu Akbar" and I tell him to please shut his mouth up?
#77 to #74 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
Maybe he's just trying to introduce himself?
#70 - wolfgangof (08/29/2014) [-]
This is just weird. There's a whole community of human beings who go on a website and actually try to justify racism and pre-judging. **** your statistics. Everyone has the capacity to be a really ****** person, even you/me. Focusing on the ****** qualities of people will do nothing but make you hate your life, hate other people and just make you want to sit at your computer and actually try to "prove" a certain group of people is worse than everyone else using facts you never came up with yourself. which is like what 60% of you are doing right now
User avatar #62 - aesis (08/29/2014) [-]
The whole "white people shoot up schools" stereotype feels extremely forced. Stereotypes are usually just there but this one seems to have popped up overnight and everytime I hear it it honestly just feels like one group of people trying to find something bad to say about another.
#79 to #62 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
No it hasn't. Blacks have been saying white people be crazy for years. White Americans have always held the stereotype where they just turn crazy out of nowhere.
#64 to #62 - solomonkane (08/29/2014) [-]
you never see black people shoot up schools.
#65 to #64 - captainganto (08/29/2014) [-]
how often do you see them at school in the first place?
#66 to #65 - solomonkane (08/29/2014) [-]
depends, I went to a public school so a lot actually
#67 to #66 - captainganto (08/29/2014) [-]
i come from a painfully antiquated of the forgotten corners of England. im surprised to see a black person, period.
User avatar #80 to #67 - jokekill (08/29/2014) [-]
I live in a densely packed city in England, and i'm suprised if i see a white person.
#81 to #80 - captainganto (08/29/2014) [-]
I went to aston 6 months back. I was the ethic minority. Gorgeous black girls all around. it was insane.
#61 - gtfomylawnbish (08/29/2014) [-]
I'm white, and I can understand why some people would be scared of white people in theaters and schools. Am I offended? No, there's a good reason. Some white people have freaked out and went off the deep end.


I'd like black people to stop being so God damn offended. Muslims in our nation for the most part are lovely people who care about our country. Most understand why some Americans are so apprehensive.

Why can't black people stop and take a look at their "community" and start working towards changing it instead of finger pointing?
#59 - anon (08/29/2014) [-]
The difference is that a man can hide a weapon inside a turban, but a man can't hide a weapon inside his "white"
#53 - Awesomecarrot (08/29/2014) [-]
Oh **** yes that was awesome
User avatar #24 - frozenfruit (08/28/2014) [-]
Um...isn't he a year too late?
User avatar #23 - worldatarms ONLINE (08/28/2014) [-]
If you see either white man holding a video camera, call the police.
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