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User avatar #205 to #175 - feelythefeel (04/10/2014) [-]
"I didn't ask for this. I wasn't even wearing a skirt."
#258 to #205 - inergio ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
Man, dont change his line. www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpuRIZzJog
User avatar #11 - sienimies (04/09/2014) [-]
Now i'm just gonna say, justifying rape by "She was wearing slutty clothes" is just ridiculous. A man has to have enough control to keep himself in control even he's somewhat aroused. She's not asking for rape, she's simply a slut.

Don't get me wrong, i ******* hate this feminist ******** .
User avatar #247 to #11 - chieflongnap (04/10/2014) [-]
But one of the biggest issues with everyone discussing this topic is that there are many reasons as to why someone may rape someone else.

One of the most common reasons I've heard of is that the rapist commits the act to prove that he has power. In this situation it's not really about sex. It's all about the power over the other party.

If you take that into consideration, your statement of "A man has to have enough control to keep himself in control even if he's somewhat aroused" is moot. Hell, rapists usually target people who seem vulnerable, which means that they don't even have to be attractive and has nothing to do with what they wear, thus further disproving your statement.

However, there will obviously be rapists who will target scantily clad women because they look like a much better target. This isn't me pushing blame on the woman because the rapist is ALWAYS the one at fault. However, most women should know better than to travel alone dressed like a slut. Because, even though the OPs content does go a little overboard in regards to the two bottom pictures, I do see the point:

If I walked around at night wearing a several thousand dollar suit, a nice shiny rolex, and just put out the general vibe that I have a lot of money and valuables, I'm going to be a much more interesting target for someone who is looking to rob somebody. However, the one about being assaulted is more of a free speech issue. Sure, they have the right to say whatever they want, but it isn't really recommended.

As well, to the people who are talking about women calling rape to get their way; there was a study in 2010 done by David Lisak published in "Violence Against Women" it states that only 5.9% (or 8 out of 136 cases) were deemed to be false accusations. The study isn't huge, but it was also performed at a university over a ten year period(IMO 5.9% too much).

Anyway, just my two cents. Once again though: I'm not condoning rapists and I believe that they are ALWAYS at fault.
User avatar #249 to #11 - wthree (04/10/2014) [-]
This is the thing though, the argument is not that "she was asking for it, and it's entirely her fault." but rather that "there were actions she could have taken/not taken which would have reduced the chance of getting rapped, though that doesn't make it her fault."
#390 to #249 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
But think about the context here, the slutty clothes arguement is often used after someone's raped not as a warning beforehand like "dont take drinks from strangers". In the case of using it after someone's raped, it's pretty much always blaming.

I agree that it would be good cautionary advice if people could put it like the drink drugs warnings, but it's pretty terrible as is. I don't think it's ok to say "that guy got murdered - well, he left his door unlocked."
User avatar #549 to #390 - wthree (04/10/2014) [-]
I rarely, if ever, hear someone say (or even suggest) someone deserved to get raped for wearing slutty clothes. It is more common for someone to say that their slutty clothes made them a target, which is a very different thing.

Someone saying "if she wasn't wearing those clothes, she wouldn't have gotten raped" (which this may or may not be true) is not blaming the victim, but pointing out ways it may have been avoided. Conflating the two together serves nothing but to ignore the possibility that preventative action can me taken, while at the same time vilifying someone else.
User avatar #329 to #11 - twofreegerbils (04/10/2014) [-]
And a man has enough self control to not rob someone or assault someone too.

That doesn't mean that I'm gonna walk around like the two people on the bottom of the image just because I feel like it should be my right.
#121 to #11 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
That's the issue, they are not asking to be assaulted or raped. However when choosing to wear very revealing cloths the general idea is that the woman is asking to be NOTICED. This means you are not more likely to be noticed by a rapist, who in their own deluded mind thinks you are coming on to them. For example if a woman shows up at a bar with 100 men, 1 of which is a rapist. If she shows up in middle of the road attractive cloths and acts normally 15 men notice her, basically meaning there is a 15% the rapist noticed her. Now if she shows up in very revealing cloths and is very loud and drunk now 50 guys notice her, so the chance of the rapist noticed her has risen to 50%.

Now this is obviously is not a perfect explanation and is in NO WAY an attempt to defend/rationalize rape. I simply am trying to show how a persons choices and actions can put them at higher risk. Its very depressing that this the case, but the world can be an ugly ugly place.
#16 to #11 - philss (04/09/2014) [-]
totally true, but: imagine you are a potential rapist and horny as hell. so you hide in the park and wait for a woman to rape. the two in the pic pass by, which one will you choose?
#442 to #16 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
rapists don't rape women because they're "super horny". have you ever been super horny and thought about holding down a screaming, fighting, sobbing woman in a dark alley somewhere? probably not. rape is about violence.
User avatar #17 to #16 - sienimies (04/09/2014) [-]
Naturally the left one. Although, does covering clothes really protect the girl in the right from rape? The rapist is horny as hell after all.
#18 to #17 - philss (04/09/2014) [-]
he will take the best he can get i guess. he will only take the right one if there is no left one available.
someone wants to break in a house, he will choose the one that looks easiest to break in. its always a matter of better choices.
#451 to #16 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
But who's fault is it for the rape? His or hers?
#327 to #16 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
The one on the right because she is more girl next door then hot bimbo
User avatar #22 to #11 - gibssowas (04/09/2014) [-]
Of course a man should have enough control not to assault her.
And for ***** sake... I guess 99% of men out there a able to do that.
Its just the one ******* percent that cannot control themselves that cause this **** .
User avatar #12 to #11 - anonymoose (04/09/2014) [-]
It depends. If you dress slutty in a dangerous area and get raped, a lot of the blame is on you. Just like if you flaunt your money in a dangerous area and get robbed, a lot of the blame is on you.

If you go to an area where a certain action is dangerous, and do that action. If danger comes to you, you're to blame. Just because you don't want it to happen, that doesn't shift the blame off of you.

If you're raped in a perfectly safe area, then it's not your fault at all.
User avatar #240 to #12 - coolcalx (04/10/2014) [-]
there is literally no statistical correlation between provocative dress and potential to be raped.

Rape is not about sexual release, it's about power over a victim. A normal human being DOES NOT rape people, and rapists don't care what the victim is wearing. In fact, studies show that rape victims are usually more conservatively dressed, because rapists choose victims who are more submissive and weak.

Perpetuating the myth that dressing like a slut will get you raped is detrimental to all of society. A victim of rape is NEVER to blame.

I'm ashamed that anyone seriously believes any of this.
#350 to #240 - randomlyici (04/10/2014) [-]
Thank you! You don't know how many times I've shared this information on this site and EACH and every time I get down voted. My hats off to you for being educated and aware.
User avatar #544 to #350 - coolcalx (04/10/2014) [-]
this has to be at least the third time I've had to explain this. I don't understand how anyone could be so confused as the majority of FJ appears to be.

Anyone who thinks rape is something someone does because they're just too gosh darn horny has a terrible misunderstanding of what rape is.

...which is strange, because everyone is supposed to be taught this in school. we had to learn about the psychology of rape in middle school and in my mandatory health class in high school. Unless other schools don't teach their students about rape, I'm dumbfounded by why so many people don't know what it really is.
User avatar #264 to #240 - missaddie (04/10/2014) [-]
Thank you.
User avatar #265 to #240 - viperish (04/10/2014) [-]
funnyjunk.com/Hugging+a+woman+raping+her/funny-pictures/5091060/16#16

So you're saying that the one on the right is more submissive and weak? I'd say the left one is more that, also she's easier to rape due to less clothing and looks hella lot better.

Yes, a victim of rape is never to blame. Same way a victim of mugging is never to blame, but if you walk around town waving 1k notes you're more likely to be mugged. It's not your fault, but you could've made a difference.
#472 to #240 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
While you are mostly correct, I dont see why rape cant be about sexual release. Sure it is usually used for feeling powerful but there are certainly instances where some dbag just wanted to get his nut off.

In no way am I saying that a normal human being will rape someone but there is just a lot more to it than you let on.

Also, i dont think anonymoose worded any of that correctly.
User avatar #542 to #472 - coolcalx (04/10/2014) [-]
if you're having sex with someone without their consent, then they will not be aroused. imagine sticking your dick in a tight hole made of sandpaper. that's what ******* a vagina that isn't secreting lubrication would feel like.

rape damages both the victim and the rapist. it's not about sexual pleasure.
User avatar #275 to #12 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
I'd say the majority of the blame, in all your examples, is on the criminal.
#433 to #12 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
Well that depends on what you blame them for. What you're saying is different from what he was saying.

They shouldn't do it, because obviously it's a dumbass idea and you can blame them for not being careful enough, but the act of rape will always have been done by someone else.

You're a ******* dumbass for not being able to discern the two types of blame, but this is to be expected of the average person on FJ.
User avatar #66 to #12 - castereleven (04/10/2014) [-]
I don't understand though. Are they angry because they get punished for being raped or what? Last time I checked the rapist gets punished.
User avatar #263 to #66 - missaddie (04/10/2014) [-]
So no, with this feminist movement creating hassle that is mocking the seriousness of rape ******* up real victim's lives, it's not always the rapist who gets punished. A lot of people (men and women alike) who are raped or violated in any way don't want to tell at all for fear of being accused of lying. It's all because of those bitches that say touching them is rape.

User avatar #262 to #66 - missaddie (04/10/2014) [-]
I can let you know that it's not anger that I experience. I got shamed by the officers that came to my aid when I had severe injuries as proof, they didn't believe me with all that evidence and forced me to drop it. I just feel lost like people seriously think it's my fault I went on a walk and got raped. It makes me feel guilt when I know I shouldn't.
#79 to #66 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
A lot of rapes are not reported or prosecuted, and it can be pretty traumatic for the victim to even try (telling and retelling what happened to her or him to police, jury, etc). "slutty clothes" TOTALLY no excuse for rape.
User avatar #80 to #66 - castereleven (04/10/2014) [-]
This is just a question, who thumbed me down?
#372 to #12 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
If someone kills you, and you didn't lock the door, you're to blame, not the dude who just killed you.

No, you were just somewhat stupid and niave for not locking your door. You didn't deserve to be murdered, it wasn't your blame. Blames on the dude who actually decided to murder you. We don't jail people for not locking their doors and getting murdered.
User avatar #13 to #12 - sienimies (04/09/2014) [-]
ah well, i was under the impression that they use common sense.

User avatar #14 to #13 - anonymoose (04/09/2014) [-]
>Feminists
>Implying all use common sense
User avatar #15 to #14 - sienimies (04/09/2014) [-]
Good points, good points.
#130 to #11 - jaked ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
The way that I like to think of it is that rape is like murder, something that is so terrible and unexpected that you shouldn't have to take precautions in your daily life for it. That said, I'm not going to walk around Compton giving dirty looks to gangster types, it's perfectly in my rights to give someone a dirty look, and I shouldn't have to expect retribution in most cases, but if you asked anybody they would say I was 'asking for it'.
User avatar #195 to #11 - waaw (04/10/2014) [-]
In my opinion, the blame is always on the rapist entirely, but there are measures that the woman can take to help reduce the chance of rape. It's unfortunate that we live in a world where there are rapists, but it's a reality that we have to work around. Preventing rape is a two pronged effort.
#366 to #195 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
lol prong
#316 to #2 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
Can somebody find sauce? I tried and failed.
User avatar #335 to #316 - captnnorway (04/10/2014) [-]
I did a bit of googleing, the "Du Betalar" is Swedish so I tried there first. What I got was a news article from march 2013 in the newspaper Fria Tidar Free times, is a right wing political newspaper. . I'm not sure how many can read Swedish on this site, but it's pretty similar to Norwegian so I got most it. The idea is that hate feminism is the same as hate against different minorities, and should be punished like so.

Here's the source, I guess google can translate for you
www.friatider.se/forslag-gor-det-straffbart-kritisera-feminism
#369 to #2 - christmouth (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeah, ban freedom of speech, that will do society good.
#397 to #2 - Metallicock (04/10/2014) [-]
hmm, too bad for these women that what they are doing isn't feminism and is more along the lines of misandry and sexism
#469 to #2 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
User avatar #496 to #2 - niggernazi (04/10/2014) [-]
if it makes you feel better most swedes hate femenazis pieces of crap like her, its just the loud minority of femenazis in faghom and ********** who wont shut the **** up
#201 to #2 - Customer Services ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeap, let's make it illegal.
Also, let's make illegal to criticize anything.
So nobody will be pissed.
Nobody will be able to question anything.
Nothing will ever change
Even the things that suck
Like the "patriarcal rape culture system"


**** man, that girl is a ******* cunt.
#346 to #2 - shadowgandalf (04/10/2014) [-]
I wonder when the swedes will begin to understand what they are becomming.

Speaking as a dane, i'm sad to see sweden slowly corroding into some kind of real life tumblr.
User avatar #374 to #346 - eiaisqzbsesb (04/10/2014) [-]
As a swede, I agree. And we are noticing it.
#493 to #346 - alexanderh (04/10/2014) [-]
Don't forget it was also a swede that started the international " ********* " about Marius being put down and having a public autopsy performed at a zoo. It was literally one swede saying how disgusted he was with us (jävla danskar was said), and sharing it with people, and it was noticed internationally.

In conclusion: **** what sweden is becoming.
User avatar #19 to #2 - willindor (04/09/2014) [-]
Posts like this makes me wish for 4chan to hack more feminist websites.
#349 to #147 - saltcat (04/10/2014) [-]
Behind the scenes
Behind the scenes
User avatar #3 to #2 - anonymoose (04/09/2014) [-]
That's just silly.
I can say what I'm like, I'm behind 7 proxies
#33 to #3 - felixjarl ONLINE (04/09/2014) [-]
But un less i am mistaken, you are only behind one fj profile.
User avatar #373 to #33 - eiaisqzbsesb (04/10/2014) [-]
Nah, he's obviously anonymous.
User avatar #375 to #373 - reapermaster ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
no he's anonymoose
User avatar #378 to #375 - eiaisqzbsesb (04/10/2014) [-]
I was trying to make a bad joke about how it is similar to anonymous, but thanks for ruining my dreams. You know, great work.
#315 to #8 - hourlyb ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
User avatar #142 to #8 - KINGOFTHESTARS (04/10/2014) [-]
this image wasnt even funny until this moment .

thankyou so much
#208 - mrselfdestruct (04/10/2014) [-]
**mrselfdestruct rolled image**   
This is what i rolled when i got thumbed down.   
I wasn't asking for it
**mrselfdestruct rolled image**
This is what i rolled when i got thumbed down.
I wasn't asking for it
#272 - butiloveu (04/10/2014) [-]
I don't get you point.   
So when a woman showing of her tits/ slutty outfit its a normal    
result that she got raped?!   
   
It's like saying the jewelry store shouldn't have any windows or display to show of the jewelry. Because this would cause robbery.   
   
If a fine looking woman dressed like a slut you can be thankful for the view.   
If you planing to rape her for it, then you don't deserve your genitals.   
   
If someone show of his money or being mean he is just a huge douchbag.   
Still no excuse for beating/robbing him, but there is at least a reasons.   
   
The argument she got raped because she didn't wear a Burqa is complete 			********		.   
If you get raped by other mean would you wear a full body condom to prevent that in future?
I don't get you point.
So when a woman showing of her tits/ slutty outfit its a normal
result that she got raped?!

It's like saying the jewelry store shouldn't have any windows or display to show of the jewelry. Because this would cause robbery.

If a fine looking woman dressed like a slut you can be thankful for the view.
If you planing to rape her for it, then you don't deserve your genitals.

If someone show of his money or being mean he is just a huge douchbag.
Still no excuse for beating/robbing him, but there is at least a reasons.

The argument she got raped because she didn't wear a Burqa is complete ******** .
If you get raped by other mean would you wear a full body condom to prevent that in future?
User avatar #516 to #272 - whynotzoidberglol (04/10/2014) [-]
***** , you act like every single man is a rapist.

They're ******* saying that if you walk into BAD neighborhood, note "BAD" wearing provocative clothing, you LITERALLY HAVE NO ******* COMMON SENSE. There are people who are willing to do horrible act to a person in a bad neighborhood.

By the way, there are studies out there that say the rapist if often someone the victim knows. I don't know if it is true or not, but if it is, then this argument would be thrown out the window.
#4 - dangler ONLINE (04/09/2014) [-]
"ugly manly thick jawed face"
"ugly manly thick jawed face"
#125 to #4 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
damn boy, dat gifs 78 fps, how you do that ****
#155 to #125 - dangler ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
Magic
Magic
#358 to #4 - xsnowshark (04/10/2014) [-]
That quality....
User avatar #70 to #4 - greendaynimrod (04/10/2014) [-]
that's a nice quality jif you got there
#109 to #70 - williamhowardtaft (04/10/2014) [-]
that jif aint got **** on mine
User avatar #345 to #109 - rapsuskiller (04/10/2014) [-]
Dude I had two big jars of this delicious goodness and I finished it and I CAN´T BUY MORE BECAUSE I LIVE IN SPAIN Hold me, FJ
#85 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
No, they are not asking for it.
I'm sick of **** like this. I don't care how she was dressed, I don't care how slutty she was acting, ******* control yourself like a human being, you are not a ******* dog.
If she gets drunk, ***** someone and then feels bad and claims she was raped, then she is a stupid bitch.
If she said no and she got raped its rapists fault. She didn't ask for it.
#100 to #85 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
Found the feminist liberal.
#102 to #100 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Yes because feminists generally think that woman who drunkedly sleeps with a guy and call rape is a stupid bitch.
But you are right, something was found. A pathetic man child who thinks its not his job to control himself, its everyone else's job to remove temptation.
User avatar #139 to #102 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
You don't seem to realize that there's a great divide between the average man and the magnificent bastard that would be a rapist.
You say rapists should exercise self control. Go and tell that to a rapist, they just don't give a flying **** what you say. It's like telling a murderer to just not kill. They aren't going to stop because the fact that they're willing to kill you means they've already stopped caring about what you want. The fact that you try and tell it to us tells me that you think the average man is a rapist, which makes you the ultimate cunt.
#162 to #139 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
dude most rapes aren't perpetrated by serial rapist. its alot of these "average men" you're referring to.
User avatar #164 to #162 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
If you're the kind of person that counts "we were both drunk" or "she consented but changed her mind later", then sure. People make have lapses of judgement. I'm of the opinion that such a definition of rape is slightly evil. I'm talking about "she was sleeping" or "she said no but really she wanted it"
#167 to #164 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
Those would be the same instances I'm referring to. also her being drunk doesn't make it not rape.
User avatar #173 to #167 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Hold up, can we talk about this for a second?
I said "we were both drunk"
You took from that "she was drunk"
Can I take from that that you think the man is always to blame?
And the fact that you think that the average man is okay with raping a sleeping woman or forcing women who are saying no to submit really tells me that you don't know much about men.
#184 to #173 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
wow, yes, please lets talk about this, first off, stop making vast assumptions as to what I'm saying. I said "being drunk" that applies to the man and/or woman and either party abusing any substance does not excuse any situation that would otherwise be deemed rape. you clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the vast majority of rapes occur, the creeper hiding in a park at night is far from the norm. Most rapes are "date rapes" and the rapist usually knows the victim.
User avatar #193 to #184 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
It's not a vast assumption. I said something about two genders, you talked about one. I said when BOTH parties are drunk, it shouldn't count as rape. You said when ONE is, it should. You either mistakenly or intentionally ignored what I said. Yeah, when one person is drunk and the other takes advantage of that, that's rape.
You don't seem to understand what the average man is, or you think that the average man looks at a helpless woman and thinks "Yep, I'm gonna rape that"
I'm not sure how to respond to either.
#200 to #193 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
oh you're right, didn't mean to add the "her". that was my first thought, but its much more applicable if I just say "being drunk" and obviously thats not what guys think, they're not thinking clearly in the situation, you seem to be holding the average guy on a pedestal, but there's statistics that you're free to google showing that the majority of rapes, roughly two thirds are committed by someone the victim knows personally.
User avatar #203 to #200 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Nearly everyone has friends, not everyone goes clubbing. That doesn't make having friends more dangerous than getting white girl wasted on your own with no ride home.
#204 to #203 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
you're totally right, I don't see how thats relevant.
User avatar #206 to #204 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
"Roughly two thirds of rape are committed by someone the victim knows personally" Citation not really needed but wanted anyway
That would be because everyone has friends. It's pretty easy to get in a powerful position when someone trusts you. That doesn't make having friends dangerous, or opening yourself to rape. That's not what we're talking about. I don't have anything constructive to say to someone who's a victim of that.
We're talking about instances of rape where I say "You should have been more careful" and you say "You shouldn't blame the victim", such as getting white girl wasted on your own with no ride home.
#214 to #206 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
oh dude i didn't know you were talking about specific scenarios of rape, then yes I agree, remarkably irresponsible for a girl to do that and I would say that she shouldve been more careful in that specific instance. I was thinking on a more broad scale.
User avatar #221 to #214 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Honey, in the garage there's a footlocker. Inside it is a gun. If anyone ever says "This woman deserves to be raped" outside of a comedic or angry context, I want you to use it on them.
The content is making fun of women who take "You shouldn't have done that stupid thing, it put you at a higher risk" as "It's your fault", that's what I'm defending. My right to tell you that the thing you did was stupid, even if what happened to you isn't you fault or even necessarily directly related.
#225 to #221 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
see now we're getting places, I agree, sometimes you gotta see the world for what it is and not what you want it to be.
#153 to #139 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Do you have a problem with your cognitive abilities?
First, calling a rapist a magnificent bastard means you either have no idea what magnificent bastard is or you have serious problem with internal morality.
Second, you have a problem understanding what I am saying. I am not saying an average person is a rapist. I am saying that an average person is a person who can control themselves to not follow their base impulses, even when very tempted.
Those that cannot control their impulses are sole guilty parties in a crime. Never the victim, never for any reason.
Guilty party of a crime is only, ever, the person who commits a crime. And shared responcibility is what idiots use to justify actions of those scum who should be either jailed or killed.
User avatar #160 to #153 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Saying that you're a magnificent bastard is like saying you're an amazing cockgobbler. It's not a compliment, it's saying you're a wonderful example of how not to be. Surely you can grasp that and you're just grasping at straws to insult me?
And you keep acting like I'm saying the victim is to blame. Not a single person has said that. We're saying that if something is a threat to you, running headfirst into it is a stupid thing to do. It's still the rapists fault, it's still the rapist to be blamed, it's still the rapist to be punished. But here's the thing - YOU CAN AVOID IT. IF YOU CAN AVOID BEING RAPED, YOU SHOULD. NO EXCEPTIONS.
This is not a difficult concept!
#172 to #160 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Magnificent%20Bastard
If you use a phrase, learn what it means. Magnificent bastard is admired, grugingly but admired, if you admire rapists I don't think its grasping at straws to tell you its morally repugnant.

Rest of it I already replied in other posts.
User avatar #174 to #172 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
There's predetermined phrases, and there's throwing two words together. I'm doing the latter.
#177 to #174 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Yes, but when you use those two words together, they have a meaning.
Blue and waffle have a meaning too. But putting them together...
So if you use something, know its meaning.
User avatar #179 to #177 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
So what am I meant to call waffles that are blue?
#180 to #179 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Waffles that are blue.
Otherwise you are talking about a disgusing made up STD.
User avatar #181 to #180 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
"Hey, I made some waffles that are blue"
"...Blue waffles?"
"No."
#185 to #181 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
And then you tell them not to google blue waffle, then they do, and then they hate you.
User avatar #191 to #185 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Or you could not say anything about google and just concede that waffles that are blue can and probably should be called blue waffles.
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#168 to #160 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
what do you mean by "avoid it"?
User avatar #176 to #168 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
If you're in a situation where you're in more danger than usual, carry more protection. Pepper spray, stick with friends, try to have a sober person in charge. The usual.
#95 to #85 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
Thats the equivalent to leaving all of your personal valuables including your wallet out on a silver platter in the middle of a dank ghetto neighborhood and complaining that it gets stolen. "I didnt ask for it, not my fault, lelele, these people are so intolerable and mean." Frankly, there always will be **** people, these feminists think that they can walk around like attention craving whores, which they pretty much are.
#99 to #95 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
No, this is eqivalent of walking around carrying an expensive watch.
If someone stops you and robs you of it, beats you for it and leaves you on the floor its not your fault. Its not watches fault, its the fault of dicks who think they have a"right" to take what they want, and bigger dicks like you who think of excuses why its victim's fault and not why criminals should, I don't know, act like human beings and exercise self control.
User avatar #267 to #99 - missaddie (04/10/2014) [-]
Thank you. People like you are what the world needs. I don't know why I'm bothering fighting with people who tell me that I was ******* asking for it.
User avatar #141 to #99 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
It would be the equivalent of wearing an expensive watch if a rapist came into your house and raped you while you sleep. But it's not. You're in a potentially dangerous situation, any half sane individual would then decide to be more careful. But no, your solution is to tell people who would never do something like that to control themselves and wondering why nothing is changing. Pro tip, ******* - It's because you're blaming the wrong people.
#151 to #141 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
No, its because ******** like you are excusing the criminals.
"Its not his fault, she was wearing the little black dress, so ofcorse he raped her."
"Look how he was walking around, ofcrose he deserved to be robbed, wearing all that gold."
**** that. What I'm saying, only thing I'm saying is that when crime is commited only and sole responcibility is on the criminal. Never on the victim.
User avatar #154 to #151 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Not taking care of yourself in a dangerous place is a stupid thing to do. I'm not saying you deserve to be raped or mugged or that the criminal is any less at fault, I'm giving advice on not getting raped or mugged again.
#166 to #154 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Life is dangerous.
Seriously, most people get killed at home, doing some stupid chore, so what are you supposed to do? wear full body armor and helmet 100% of the time?
Very little crime happens because people made it easy to the criminal, it happens because there are pieces of **** out there that don't care for anything but satisfying their own needs and they would make opportunity no matter what.
Sure, you should try to minimize risks, but even if you do everything right it might still happen, because its not about what you do, its about what they do.
User avatar #178 to #166 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Most people get killed at home because that's where we spend the majority of our lives. That doesn't mean that home is more dangerous.
#182 to #178 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
Also because that's where we feel most secure.
So more people die slipping on wet floor at home then outside, because they pay less attention at home.
When you are going through area that you know is unsafe, you are probably going to be hypervigilant and see and avoid trouble.
But people who are constantly hypervigilant end up in hospitals as nervous wrecks.
User avatar #188 to #182 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
"When you are going through area that you know is unsafe, you are probably going to be hypervigilant and see and avoid trouble.
But people who are constantly hypervigilant end up in hospitals as nervous wrecks."
So you're saying you should be vigilant when it's dangerous and calm down when it's not?
Congratulations, we agree. As far as I can tell it's just that we're not allowed to say it.
#192 to #188 - angelusprimus (04/10/2014) [-]
If someone stupidly puts themselves in danger, we are allowed to tell them "Well, you took stupid risks."
But, we are not allowed to tell them "You asked for it," or "its your fault."
even if you take stupid risks, unless you harm yourself, the fault is always and fully by person who did the harming.
User avatar #194 to #192 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
There's a world of difference between saying "it's your fault" and "you should be more careful"
#123 to #99 - zacsuntibidea (04/10/2014) [-]
You seem like you can actually appreciate the workings of these arguments, so I'm curious if you can answer a question that's been bugging me for a while.

Given the varying quality of people you can encounter in a given day and the way they sort themselves when at rest, why do the activists that I've encountered at least think that the people who violently abuse everyday folk are in any real way controlled by those who are willing to sit and hear out a well reasoned argument for or against specific actions?

In my experience most of the people who will listen to a speach or protest are in full control of themselves and rarely hold that they can take whatevery they want while the people who lack the self control and believe that they are entitled to anything they want won't let you finish a sentence if you're trying to talk to them.

And even further down my puzzlement is one claim that the ones with self control should somehow control the ones who lack it. I don't hear this one voiced too often, but it seems to be held by most of the activists who talk to me.

If you could shed some of your understanding on this I'd be very appreciative. I hope you're having a better day than I have so far.
#190 to #123 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
so yes I would say that these protests from these activists are well reasons if not poorly delivered.
#237 to #190 - zacsuntibidea (04/10/2014) [-]
My question wasn't whether or not the arguments are well reasoned. I'm looking at who's hearing the arguments and who's doing the raping and seeing very little overlap.

The people who use the 'asking for it' reasoning are the people claiming themselves to be lacking self control, and even more so the ones who use the 'steak in front of a dog' argument.

'Some guy' losing his control temporarily in specific instances does not seem to be who the activists are complaining about at least, not to me . That issue is far more reasonable to expect the 'aggressor' to care, but walking around naked isn't saying "I represent inebriated partiers" nearly so much as it says "I represent skirt-wearing subway goers"
#189 to #123 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
where are all these crazed people with no self control coming from? thats not how most rapes happen. Its usually just some guy.
User avatar #198 to #189 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Just some guy who ignores the needs and wants of others to achieve personal gain.
I believe we call that a psychopath, and it isn't normal.
They might seem normal, right up until they do something, but they aren't.
That's like saying the guy who fantasizes about stabbing his mother is normal. He seemed so sweet, right up until I walked in on him knuckle-deep inside her intestines.
#207 to #198 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
okay so I think you're getting this preconception of rape only being possible if its a psychopath doing it, because it seems so foriegn to you, which is sweet. you must have a strong moral compass, but that's not the case. I'll use a personal anecdote. about 8 months ago I was hosting a party and one thing led to another with this girl and we were fooling around in bed, both pretty drunk. when i progressed things, she said she didn't want to, and yes I stopped, but it wasn't even kind of close to as easy as I thought it would be. I had to really tell myself not to keep trying and ended up just being frozen on top of her for what felt like hours, but was closer to 15 seconds before I moved and started apologizing profusely. Point is, Its not as easy as one would think, or hope.
User avatar #209 to #207 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
And one time I was drunk and just about fooled around with my best friend, but we stopped too. It wasn't easy to stop, because you're fighting between your biological reason for existing and your moral compass, but you did stop. Because you're a half decent human being being told to not go there.
#213 to #209 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
okay but can you realize that some people's moral compass loses that internal struggle, that doesn;t make it okay, or justified, just that it doesn't quite take a psychopath to do it is my point.
User avatar #217 to #213 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeah, and the point at which you can lose that battle makes you abnormal. How often do you think that situation happens? It happens all the time, and most of the time the guy backs off.
#219 to #217 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
yeah definitely, now would you say you were born with your current moral compass, or that your upbringing has helped shape it (not entirely, but at least part of it)
User avatar #224 to #219 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
I'd say your moral compass is mostly nurture, honestly. Barring an imbalance of hormones, you can condition almost anyone to act in almost any way, if you're willing to torture them.
#227 to #224 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
right, exactly. So I think that this rape awareness stuff that they're doing is good and will positively affect the ratio of guys that stop and guys that don't. Not this particular instance, poorly delivered and presumptuous.
User avatar #230 to #227 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Okay, but these women are actively silencing the people who are urging them to be more careful. Do you think it would be more effective to have a hundred more women carrying pepper spray, or to have one more man stop?
#235 to #230 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
well thats a good question, I'm personally a fan of both happening, tragically most of the pepper spray I've seen girls carry, previously including my girlfriend, were buried at the bottom of a purse or backpack. also in almost any instance of date rape it wouldn't be helpful, but I think I would take the 100 girls with pepper spray if I could only pick one.
User avatar #236 to #235 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Well given that there are two groups actively opposing one another, I'd say that unless you manage to resolve several thousand people fundamentally misunderstanding one camps argument and the other camp getting frustrated at that, you only get one.
#239 to #236 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeah in this case it does, hopefully they'll focus more on things that don't encourage any irresponsible behavior
#274 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
Idk, I wouldn't argue against this.
Not feminist in the slightest but you're implying that if a woman shows enough skin, men simply have to rape them.
You're essentially saying that men become helpless to their sexual needs when confronted with a half-naked woman.
#281 to #274 - gainesy (04/10/2014) [-]
**gainesy rolled image** Just because someone said 			******		 doesn't mean he needed to get assaulted in that case.
**gainesy rolled image** Just because someone said ****** doesn't mean he needed to get assaulted in that case.
#286 to #274 - pointblankhits (04/10/2014) [-]
I simply can't restrain my penis
User avatar #292 to #274 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Are you saying that if someone flaunts their money that I HAVE to rob them? No.

If you flaunt your money, you're more likely to be robbed. If you dress provocatively, you're more likely to be raped.
User avatar #296 to #292 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
You use this analogy a lot, but robbery and rape are quite different.
For one, it takes a lot less mental willpower to rob than to rape.
Robbery is often committed as a result of poverty. Rape is often committed as a result of psychological problems, often rapists have been sexually abused themselves.
User avatar #297 to #296 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Both of those points are about the criminal, not the victim. I'm talking about the victim. Whatever is going through the criminals head is irrelevant here.
User avatar #298 to #297 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
Not really.
You're talking about what the victim does in relation to how it affects the (potential) criminal, yet you use two different crimes.
The criminal is not a blank slate whose actions are completely dependent on what the victim does.
User avatar #301 to #298 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
They can be treated the same here, I feel.
Rapists are people with sexual desire, dressing provocatively will tempt their sexual desire.
Robbers are people with monetary desire, dressing accordingly will tempt their monetary desire.

If you dress in a way to provoke them and you end up provoking them, then it's partially your fault.
User avatar #302 to #301 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
I feel like you're over-simplifying here. A lot of rapists commit rape to assert dominance (source: the recent Louis Theroux documentary on sex offenders), rather than for any sexual interest.
Of course, there are some people who do rape as a result of sexual desire, but oversimplifying all possible motives into "they want the pussy so they gon get it" is ridiculous.
#331 to #292 - jacksatan (04/10/2014) [-]
The other problem with this argument is that there is no data to back up your "fact" that dressing provocatively makes it more likely to be raped. Its objectively false.

Rape is not about sexual attraction, so how you dress has nothing to do with whether or not you're raped.
User avatar #332 to #331 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Rape can be about how you dress.
User avatar #299 to #274 - thechosentroll (04/10/2014) [-]
Well, we ARE a bit stupid.
User avatar #300 to #299 - thechosentroll (04/10/2014) [-]
Or maybe that's just me.
User avatar #303 to #300 - vivalavidya (04/10/2014) [-]
I like to think that most of us aren't as bad as the folks over on /r9k/
User avatar #311 to #303 - thechosentroll (04/10/2014) [-]
Oh yeah, I can actually feel my IQ dropping just by looking at those sad bastards.
#271 - rhillthreefivetwo (04/10/2014) [-]
There's nothing wrong with feminism... There's nothing wrong with showing support for anti-rape. It's the crazy extremists that define everything, even consensual-married sex, as rape that are... Well... Crazy! I know I known I shouldn't be spending time on the internet with my sort of attitude towards things, but I think it's rad what those cats are doing.
#101 - juffs (04/10/2014) [-]
Okay, I agree with this. But, not with the cunts and I even ******* hate that word, i'm a male and still find it offensive, but it needs to be used that are trying to spread the notion that what you wear matters in instances of rape.

Wanna know why?

Because rape is not a crime of lust. It is a crime of power.

Wearing a slutty dress to a party? Not asking for it.

Passing out at a party because of your own ****** decisions? Still not asking for it, but not really doing a whole hell of a lot to avoid the situation.

Does this make the guy doing it any less of a worthless pile of dog **** , a scar on society? No. But the situation could be easily remedied by not being a dumb bitch.

Now, someone breaking into your house at three in the morning and tying you up is a completely different matter, but that's not who these women are defending. They're sticking up for the dirty secret of feminism, women whose choices have negative consequences for them.

Just so we're clear, I have no problem with the idea of feminism. Just the bitchy women who try to make things 'equal' by destroying men, rather than building women. But, disclaimer is over, and back to bitching.

Which is just way too ****** up.
#333 - ragingflamingos (04/10/2014) [-]
I've always thought of it like this. If you are hit by a drunk driver and injured due to not wearing your seat belt, the injury itself is not your fault (its the asshat who drove drunk's), but you were still a fate tempting moron for not buckling up. Similarly while raping is always the fault of the rapist, it is incredibly stupid to dress like a whore and get black out drunk around people who you don't know. Now obviously in both cases you can do everything correctly and still get hurt, but it lowers the chances dramatically.
User avatar #388 to #333 - timmywankenobi (04/10/2014) [-]
yes by up to 350%.
#564 to #333 - dramatically (04/10/2014) [-]
You called?
User avatar #228 - severepwner (04/10/2014) [-]
If you're the least bit attractive you're asking for it. Men don't rape people just because they got aroused by a short skirt and a revealing top, they have some self control to avoid ******* prison.

Real rapists are just as inclined to rape attractive people even if they're wearing jeans, a t-shirt and a hoodie. Rapists don't make decisions based off of people's clothing.
User avatar #245 to #228 - alimais (04/10/2014) [-]
Well, some countries they justify it with that.
User avatar #252 to #228 - ilikeweed (04/10/2014) [-]
exactly!!
rapists rape no matter what. it doesn't matter what you wear.
date rape and real rapists who rape for the power high are two totally different things.
User avatar #342 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
I'll say it once again: no one should have to worry about being raped, no matter what he or she is wearing.

You operate on the assumption that all men are uncontrollable sex machines.
We aren't.

I can go to the beach, see an almost naked woman and not have the slightest sign of an erection.

Most rape cases do not involve half-naked women.
They involve ordinarily-clothed women.

This post is despicable.
User avatar #380 to #342 - vatra (04/10/2014) [-]
Not only that, but most rape is about control not the actual sex that is a byproduct of their absolute control. Thus the woman's sex appeal is irrelevant.
User avatar #412 to #380 - timmywankenobi (04/10/2014) [-]
yes this is true for rapists of both genders the only thing all the rapists really have in common is they look for moments of weakness/ vulnerability to strike.
User avatar #414 to #412 - vatra (04/10/2014) [-]
Exactly
User avatar #384 to #342 - timmywankenobi (04/10/2014) [-]
yes but an important thing to note is all most all men or women raped were raped while in a weakened/compromised position. so logically you should be as prepared as much you can be by taking less risks and carrying pepper spray , not traveling alone at night in bad areas.
User avatar #394 to #384 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
But is it their fault?

Am I at fault if someone decides to take advantage of my weakness?

Both you and I are weak to being stabbed: would we be at fault if someone decided to exploit this weakness?
User avatar #399 to #394 - timmywankenobi (04/10/2014) [-]
no the criminal/legal blame is on the criminal always.

only the personal responsibility of taking steps to protect yourself and greatly reduce your chance of being assaulted lie with the victim.
User avatar #401 to #399 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
And that's the problem.

That being clothed in an attractive manner is considered as being "vulnerable".

Both you and I know that it shouldn't be so, and that this has to be solved.

And you can't solve it by keeping on with the same "don't dress slutty ******** ".
You solve it by getting people used to attractive clothing, in the same way in which people are sloooowly getting used to gays. And black people.
User avatar #404 to #401 - timmywankenobi (04/10/2014) [-]
hmm that might work but more study is required. at any rate their are simple things them people can do like carry pepper spray or mace , or stay with friends when you get drunk, if you walk home alone stay in well lit places. these things alone can reduce the chance of you being a victim by 500-800% that's a lot.
#20 - pappathethird (04/09/2014) [-]
Seriously. Those women who think it's provocative to take off their clothes ...
Seriously. Those women who think it's provocative to take off their clothes ...
User avatar #21 to #20 - xboxfest (04/09/2014) [-]
But isn't it?... For us I mean.
User avatar #308 to #20 - Nahyon ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
It's not supposed to provoke tho. Guess you know what i mean if I say how much the media loves stuff like that, no matter the topic.
Attention bruh, that's the point
#158 - walmartysnextghost (04/10/2014) [-]
I'm sorry but these protests are really dumb in the united states. Rape is a terrible crime. Prison inmates are harder on rapists than they are on murderers. American society views rape more negatively than murder. Nobody thinks a woman wants to get raped or that it's their fault. But saying men should learn to control themselves so women don't get raped is like saying thieves need to control themselves so people don't get robbed and murderers need to control themselves so people don't get killed, except the majority of men aren't rapists. MEN don't need to do **** , RAPISTS need to get their act together, and FUNNYJUNK needs to quit saturating itself with anti-feminist ******** because the goddamn majority of people are perfectly reasonable and it's just the loud ********* that make morons of themselves. Just about everyone here believes in gender equality but nolife neckebeards that have no idea how to talk to women get off on pointing out the flaws in womankinds ********* representatives. If the story happened to you, feel free to share, otherwise shut the **** up and get over it. That applies to both sexes.
#468 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
Are you guys telling me that if you saw a chick with her titties out you'd rape her? Man, that's still wrong... This makes all men sound like we're rapists, have some self control.
User avatar #474 to #468 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
If you saw a man with $100 taped to him, would you rob him?

No, but there are people in this world who would. And there are people in this world who, if they saw a girl dressed like a slut, would grope her or rape her.

Saying "I wasn't asking for it" wont make the rapist say "well,if she's not asking for it, I certainly wont do it".
#523 to #474 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
But that's still not ASKING for it? sure, it's making you more of a target, but it's still not consented. If she was ASKING for it she wouldn't mind, clearly. It doesn't take much to have self control, man.
User avatar #484 to #474 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
And there's your issue.
"Like a slut".

This is the injustice, and you're a perpetrator.
User avatar #486 to #484 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
So, you're saying I'm promoting rape because I used the word slut to describe a promiscuous outfit?
User avatar #487 to #486 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
No, I'm saying that you are promoting sexism, because you describe attractively clothed women as "sluts".
User avatar #491 to #487 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Promiscuously dressed =/= attractively dressed.
User avatar #492 to #491 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
What's the difference?
User avatar #494 to #492 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Promiscuous = barely clothed
Attractive = sexually appealing
User avatar #500 to #494 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
But barely clothed=sexually appealing, to most men.
So, promiscuous=sexually appealing?
Promiscuos=attractive?

This makes no ******* sense!

BUT
Who are you to decide the edge between the two of these?

User avatar #501 to #500 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Now who's the sexist one.
User avatar #503 to #501 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
What's the sexist part, in what I said?
User avatar #505 to #503 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
You're implying most men just want women to dress like sluts.
User avatar #506 to #505 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
Please, do quote the words I used to imply that.
User avatar #507 to #506 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
"But barely clothed=sexually appealing, to most men"
User avatar #515 to #507 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
But did I use the word "sluts"?

No, because I don't consider barely clothed or attractive women (the two states do not always coincide) as "sluts".
User avatar #517 to #515 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Promiscuity is to sluttiness as vagina is to cunt.

They mean the same thing, only one has a harsher tone to it.
User avatar #521 to #517 - smokingman (04/10/2014) [-]
That's your opinion, not mine.
Don't try to pass your opinion as universal.
As said, you are NO ONE to decide which degree of nudity women are allowed to practice.
User avatar #476 to #468 - spearpwi (04/10/2014) [-]
Are you saying that you'd mug a guy if he looked rich? You're clearly missing the point here.
#458 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
this is actually the stupidest least funny thing I ever did see
#320 - kiratheunholy ONLINE (04/10/2014) [-]
This is directed to all the naysayers in the comments    
   
Okay, fine, you win. The fact women are raped should never be blamed on anything but the rapist.   
   
Now how about you congratulate yourself by wearing a slutty outfit and walking through a dark alley alone at night.   
   
Oh, I'm sorry, won't do it? Why is that?   
   
You think someone will rape you? Don't be ridiculous! We just agreed it's never anything the victim does that's wrong, so how could this be wrong if you're doing it?   
   
   
I've said it before and I'll say it again. My argument is that the victim is not to blame. However it's good to caution women on the dangers of rape and advise them of ways to decrease the probability. Denying that some people are more at risk than others is just plain foolish and you should stfu if you do this.   
   
 Also I'm not defending rapists in any way at all, however despite your best efforts there's always going to be horrible people out there like this, so don't try to eradicate them, just prepare women for dangerous possibilities to come
This is directed to all the naysayers in the comments

Okay, fine, you win. The fact women are raped should never be blamed on anything but the rapist.

Now how about you congratulate yourself by wearing a slutty outfit and walking through a dark alley alone at night.

Oh, I'm sorry, won't do it? Why is that?

You think someone will rape you? Don't be ridiculous! We just agreed it's never anything the victim does that's wrong, so how could this be wrong if you're doing it?


I've said it before and I'll say it again. My argument is that the victim is not to blame. However it's good to caution women on the dangers of rape and advise them of ways to decrease the probability. Denying that some people are more at risk than others is just plain foolish and you should stfu if you do this.

Also I'm not defending rapists in any way at all, however despite your best efforts there's always going to be horrible people out there like this, so don't try to eradicate them, just prepare women for dangerous possibilities to come
#256 - sweetellie (04/10/2014) [-]
This is kind of controversial.. I think it's up to men to have the self control to not rape a woman rather than thinking that because of what she's wearing, she deserves/wants it to happen. If she wanted to have sex with you I guess she'd make a point of it or at least talk to you or something.
This is kind of controversial.. I think it's up to men to have the self control to not rape a woman rather than thinking that because of what she's wearing, she deserves/wants it to happen. If she wanted to have sex with you I guess she'd make a point of it or at least talk to you or something.
#354 to #256 - John Cena (04/10/2014) [-]
This is true, the person who rapes is still responsible for their actions. The argument (How I see it) is the problem of mixed signals. The man who is holding up the sign saying he hates ******* is just his opinion, yet it is controversial enough to make people ignore the laws and beat the **** out of him. It IS his opinion, but it is one that should not be publicly announced and flaunted.
TLR It is an argument about how one SHOULD act in public against how they do.
User avatar #215 - zeroguy (04/10/2014) [-]
just because woman is wearing slutty clothes doesn't give you right to right to rape her. and don't bring up "well it was dangerous area and she was in slutty clothes so it was my right to rape her." get your head out of your ass. just because she is wearing slutty clothes in ghetto doesn't give a right someone to rape anyone. if they do that they are morons and called so but saying they deserved it is just wrong
User avatar #295 to #215 - anonymoose (04/10/2014) [-]
Either you're misinterpreting the picture, or you think it's perfectly reasonably to rob someone because they're flaunting their money.
#220 to #215 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
dude nobody says that. nobody.
User avatar #222 to #220 - zeroguy (04/10/2014) [-]
its messages that is send by saying that
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