That was the only one I've been to because a bunch of my high school friends that were a year below me went for their senior road trip from Atlanta and I tagged along as a college freshman.
I can't go anymore, college is a full time job and I now know the disappointments of becoming an adult
There is a company in Austin TX that is looking at me for a summer internship, so if the stars align perfectly align then HELL YEAH!!
cool i live 3 hours away from austin so i go every year i can, and if im in college for the semester i ask my teachers for study material and homework to do in the hotel. i think i may not be in school during this years but i could decide to get an extra class in real quick or something.
My favorite is when art critics talked about the thought and passion that went into each brush stroke of one particular artist's work no I don't remember his name . Said artist was a chimpanzee.
i googled "stem graduates homeless" and the second result was your comment, every other one was some success story of a homeless person graduating college hahaha
Only better known artists make millions off of their art, it's not like every artist is ******* loaded. Everyone always tells people majoring in art to have a back-up, and generally speaking we do. Whereas people studying STEM are hardly ever told to have a backup plan so when that fails they have nowhere to go, my point is that there's two sides to the coin, and not everyone is gonna win... Always have a backup.
There's very little solace to take in the fact that "extraordinarily few artists will ever reach fame" due to our society's declining interest in art.
The decrease in said interest and increase in depression and overall bad ideologies (radical feminism, PC culture, etc.) is, in my opinion, not a coincidence. There is something very important in experiencing other people's observations and ideas through their works, be they paintings, novels or pieces of music. Your mind expands, and, above all, you are not alone.
Yet today, people are lonely and their minds are as narrow as the distance between your eyes.
Abstarct art is considered art because it's something every viewer finds a different meaning to, that being said there's a good and bad way to make abstract art, the bad way being just getting a single random object, and throwing it in an art gallery. I guess my point is that we're all critics, and we don't have to respect each other's opinions, but art is weird and we should all accept that.
Well, a piece of art can be interpreted in many ways regardless of the artists intent, so it follows that even a turd could invoke something deep in any given observer, given the right circumstances.
But there are cases where people claim to know the artists intent better than the artist, and those people are assholes.
a woman took a snapshot of her bedroom (built an art piece that was a messy bed and a slice of her bedroom all ****** and covered in trash) mine is the same but you dont see men and women with a stick up their arse coming into my bedroom and giving me cash to stand around and look at it, its bollocks.
To be fair, that post is arguably art. My favourite definition for art is:
"Art is anything created by human hands that sheds meaningful insight into something."
The fact that someone framed that comment is actually an ironic action that shows insight into a lot of things. Into how absurd the definition of art is to some people. Into how much people are willing to pay for crap. It also reflects a lot of our modern sentiments towards rebellion. The poster clearly finds the idea that the comment could be art ludicrous, so treating it like art does ironically demonstrate.
I wouldn't pay that much money for it, but for a fiver I wouldn't mind that hanging up in my house somewhere, and I wouldn't mind seeing it in a modern art museum. It would make more sense than a lot of the freaky junk that ends up in there because you don't have to lean over sideways and squint to sort-of see the outline of a woman crying if you look at the abstract statue from the right angle and oh my god I do not get abstract art at all...
For me that comment on its own is cool, but framing it really speaks to what internet culture is all about. It's like how that picture of Beyonce got everywhere.
The first one is true, the second one not so true. It may be ironic, but it's not **** . In the same way that poetry doesn't need to rhyme or sound pretty, or even be overly long like a haiku, that comment doesn't need to look spectacular to show insight. In 100 years time people might not have as good an understanding of what our internet culture is like. Just look how much has changed since it began only a few decades ago. Just as through paintings we see insight into the culture of the renaissance through that post people can get an understanding of what we were like back then (i.e. Now).
Memes don't last forever, but maybe a post that is simple enough to contextualise our attitudes and behaviours could. It might not look good, but it may well be a better insight into the times than any painting could be, especially considering how little we seem to archive important moments/times in internet history.
"Art critics" basicly killed any meaning of the word art.
Such complete trash has been heralded as art that now a days the only criteria for something to be art is if someone considers it art. So everything can be considered art and when everything is art, nothing is.
Around 130 years ago, a movement named "Impressionism" was formed. They wanted to expand the spectrum of "art" to allow more diverse creations to be noticed and acknowledged. They basically achieved the idea of neglecting the definition of "art" (which was already vague to begin with), and thus opened way for the various new genres of art that popped up from 1900s to current day.
In other words, nobody could figure out what the **** "Art" was since the times of ancient greeks and long before them, and these twats showed up in 1880 or so and said "ANYTHING CAN BE ART!". Little did they know that "anything" is quite a wide scope. According to the current definitions (look up any dictionary entry), I can justify spreading my ass and spraying **** all over your livingroom by calling it "art", and there's no way anyone could argue against it.
Go figure; Diversity for the sake of diversity is ******* retarded. This is further proven by the immigrant crisis and the moronic idea of workplace gender equality (i.e. "I dont care if she's a ******* moron; our company needs women to receive more funding")
That's not exactly how things went down. It has far more to do with the advent photography than anything else.
Up until the late 1800s, the only way to get a visual record of anything was to paint it. This is why you see so many portraits and landscapes. People weren't painting for pure artistic expression, they were doing it because it was their job. Keep in mind the Mona Lisa, arguably the most iconic painting of all time, was just a portrait commissioned by a husband for his wife. Most of the great works were done just to make a buck. If you wanted a realistic image you had to go to a master who had spent decades practicing his craft. People wanted realistic images and so the state of the art progresses towards greater and greater realism. These are the skills artists develop and even their more creative works strive for lifelike imagery.
Then photography comes along. All of a sudden those portraits that took weeks to make can be done in a matter of seconds. Not only that, the average person can now create something "better" than even the most skilled artists for much less time, money, and effort. Realism is suddenly cheap, it won't pay the bills anymore. The artists still had to make a living so they had to innovate. They had to do something other people weren't doing to earn their pay. Impressionism is the natural starting point, it is rooted in realism but adds some variety. All of a sudden you see different genres of art appearing, whereas before artistic style was almost entirely defined by the period and place. We have variety now, who can say that's a bad thing? Just because you don't like some of these varieties doesn't mean that art as a whole is meaningless.
Point is, it's a lot more than some twats a century ago saying "ANYTHING CAN BE ART!" There are some very good reasons they strayed from the traditional paths. I can't say that every new avenue that's been explored has been aesthetically appealing to me, but I can say I appreciate that they have been explored.
And what's up with that last paragraph? I get that you think contemporary art is different just to be different, hopefully I've persuaded you that this is not entirely the case, but the rest of it just dashes way off topic. It just seems like the rambling of a very bitter man. Don't force issues that aren't even remotely related.
Still, this is actually a pretty good read. Hope others see it. I guess I just don't know any people who could provide input on the topic prior to this.
I quite like impressionist and expressionist art, actually. At least those still have a meaning and require talent. The real ******* only started with abstract art in the 20th century, when every retard with a brush and some paint could suddenly become a world-famous artist.
But I agree that the ****** up state art culture is in right now is due to post-modernism.
The thing is, even Picasso's **** and Dadaism fall under the same category as spraying fecal matter across public areas.
There is literally no way you can prove that something isn't art since there are no criteria to be met to match the definition.
To me, art is the products of the perfection of a skill that only appeals to senses.
I can carve an image of a viking onto a door, and it won't improve anything about the door. On the other hand, it will make the person owning the door appreciated it more as it appeals to his senses. Same goes for music, video game development, statue carving, you name it. Besides, carving can be rather difficult to make something truly appealing.
I'm still trying to figure out a decent definition to this day, and quite frankly I like this one.
personally, I think for something to be recognised as true art, it should require at least 2 of the following things:
-is appealing for the senses, especially seeing and hearing
-takes a lot of skill and/or practice to produce
-has a deeper meaning or message
-is entertaining
entertainment is appeal to a sense that is neither seeing nor hearing.
having a deeper meaning seems redundant.
Music doesn't have to have a deeper meaning if the sounds and the patterns are appealing. Neither do videogames, which are also forms of art. They're just pleasing.
I don't think you understand. I said it needs to check at least 2 of the criteria.
Music might be entertaining and pleasing to the ear, but it might not have a deeper meaning.
A painting might require skill to make, have a deeper meaning and look good, but not be very entertaining.
A book might be entertaining and have a deeper meaning but is probably not very pretty to look at.
I think I used the wrong word. When I said "senses", I didn't only refer to hearing, sight, smell, sound and touch. There's the sense of accomplishment (stimulated by RPGs for example), there's sense of community, stimulation of various emotions etc.
Those are all senses, and that's what I meant.
Art has to appeal to one or more senses, and be the product (of a skill) that doesn't affect the functionality of the object - that's my definition.
All in all, "has a deeper meaning" doesn't seem like a necessary criteria, "is entertaining" and "is appealing to the senses" is the same thing, and "two out of four" I'd wager doesn't exist in any definition of any word in any language besides the given example. On topic of word definitions, this just seems redundant.
a lot of feminist art (which usually involves **** , piss, vaginal fluids, screaming, farting and slam poetry) gives them a sense of community, of accomplishment and probably stimulates their emotions
would you call that art, then?
To be fair, Dada was mostly a product of the times. A form of depressed rebellion against fine art, as they thought the old world of beauty and civilization had been destroyed by the horrors of the World War 1
Regardless of my opinion on the thing, that's a good point (even though it seems a little bit like a case of "something is better than nothing" from the way you put it).
>, I can justify spreading my ass and spraying **** all over your livingroom by calling it "art", and there's no way anyone could argue against it.
People could argue against it, it's just wholly subjective and therefore pointless. Art is in the eye of the beholder.
Back in high school, we had a poem assignment. Knowing very little about poetry, I wrote a bunch of statements that could just barely be considered related top each other, with a lot of help from a thesaurus. Anyway, my teacher liked my poem so much that she entered it in a regional contest and it won. Then, I got called to come to an auditorium full of school board members and teachers and read the poem aloud. Then a bunch of those teachers came to shake my hand and offer their interpretations of my poem.
Fast forward to two years after I graduate, I get an email from my old teacher asking me to give her statement about writing good poems that she could share with her class. I send back "write a bunch of pseudo-deep observations, use a thesaurus, and never use a word more than once, unless it's in the title."
I applaud you for having the balls not to live a lie. I used a similar approach to poetry and got top grades every time. I figured they couldn't give me anything less than an A cause it's a matter of opinion and I was right.
Waking up; primary breath
Respiration, repetition, existence
Light rays pierce the silence
Printing a black grid on the canvas
A prison, trapping the eye
Born each morning behind bars
Shackled by the repetition of being.
Not to make excuses for myself but I wrote this in about 2 minutes and I'm kinda high
How do you sleep at night, knowing that you placed such an inhuman curse upon poor anon? Wishing saltless chips upon someone is second only to wishing they set on a lego.
I remember buying Halo: Reach limited edition, the one with Halsey's diary. Not only it is a good read on the whole Spartan project, it has "cut outs" from news, notes, military reports and other cool **** that expands universe and talks about events prior to what happens in games.
My point is, yes, you buy limited editions because it's about a game you like, but you expect to get actual neat and somewhat exclusive content. And this **** in original post can be copied with 2 spray paint cans, and it barely has any value. Obligatory rest in piece decent non-CoD game, 343 Industries completely ruined the series for me, starting from Zombies mode in Reach.
That's exactly why you buy it, though: to get more **** related to the thing you like. Although mystery boxes to me are on the same level as pre-ordering and day one DLCs.
That might be why you buy them. I personally don't buy them at all. But I do buy things like limited LP's from musicians I like, or expensive tickets to intimate venues etc.
I think someone actually cleared this up list time it was posted. It was something about this being painted during a time when artists were experimenting with different methods and colors(or some **** to that effect) and thus making this painting a sort of milestone. I could be wrong though.
Art is about what you feel. Someone wanted to buy it for the price. We pay for overpriced **** all the time, why is it a bad thing when its a lot of money.
Can't you see the imagery? The armies of blue separated by the white line of light and justice,permeating the battlefield with its effervescent glow. ye m80 its **** innit
after taking an arts course i came to realize one important factor:
half the time artists don't have any profound metaphysical concepts i mind. they just come up with an idea, carry through with it then just make up some ******** later for the critics to eat up.
Amen. I love the education I have gotten, but there are so many people, with bachelors in art degrees who have no clue, then ******** their way through.
Same goes with film.
You come up with whatever ******** story you want, and critics/your teacher will make up some ******** about how the shots represent something and how the editing adds to that feel, and the story is an analogy to something of sorts, and how the movie was done very well with a few minor nitpicks but nothing to complain about. 9/10
[spoiler ]And I'm just sitting there like, we just filmed whatevers as soon as we could so we'd have time to get coffee or something before 7/11 closes, but okay. Yeah I totally was aiming for that. [/spoiler]
Student majoring in architecture here, whenever I design my models and structures I just come up with something standard and obvious or what looks cool, then give profound reasoning behind it. Professors eat it up every time, and every student does it.
best quote about art "People always ask me how can we charge so much for what amounts to gradations of white. I tell them it's not about the artist's name or the skill required, not even about the art itself. All that matters is "How does it make you feel?"
This may sound like a random comment, but what is it with backless attire worn by women? Why do they expose their backs and scapulas? Do the women who wear that backless attire like the elegant, smooth skin and shape of their scapula bones through their back-skin and they like to emphasize them; they want other people behind them to see their bony scapulas and smooth flesh on their back?
Maybe the back is exposed because it gets sweaty when it is covered up by clothing? That's the general logic for summer attire because sweat becomes rather sweaty at the shoulder blades. But the males are wearing regular full shirts.
My guess, as someone with a very limited idea of how fashion works, is that they create a line on their back for the eye to follow that ends at the booty. So I guess the non-sexist way to say that is it 'accentuates her features"
art critics like to say "the artist was probably channelling some deeper imagery and meaning into their art unconsiouslly." something like that. they literally cant take simple answers for truth.
Same reason we like making fan theories and enjoy reading them. For an example, the pixar theory. Giving meaning to all of the movies where there may be none.
It's because usually you don't paint something because your only other alternative was to beat up a seven year old with down syndrome.
You usually paint something because you find it important to impart your view of a something you observed in the world. Art is about sharing ideas and feelings. It has a use in society and, to an important extent, is a significant deal for humankind's moral, intellectual and emotional development.
We wouldn't ******* have Museums, publishers and concert halls if the only point was to have fun with paint, a pen or a piano.
"It's just a ******* opera piece, Adolf. Don't get any ideas from it which will lead to WW2."
Reminds me of some author, I cant recall his name, giving a lecture at a university and when he told the students what his books meaning was, they basically said he was wrong.
Ah yes... Post-Modernism.... I had an argument with my sister-in-law and she (being very heavily involved with post-modernist crap) tried to end the argument by saying that everything we were both saying was just our opinions and opinions can't be argued so I have no argument against her and thus she wins. I suppose she did win since I was so dumbfounded trying to wrap my head around the ******** she'd just spewed that I couldn't respond. It was a fun night.
**mastercolossus used "*roll picture*"** **mastercolossus rolled image**if you married into her family say "i bang your sibling."
if she married into yours tell her outsiders are uncultured swine and she was wrong. then dance to this.
she will think you are doing high art.
How did you know is was Russian? mostly anyway my dad's family came to the US from Russia a little before WWI And I can confirm that we do dance like that.
I married into hers and lived with them for a while. The door in my wife's old room didn't latch so we had to barricade it to keep it closed and one time her sister tried to barge in while we were ******* even though we yelled not to. We didn't get to the door on time and she saw us both naked and screamed.
That's pretty much post-modernism for you, though.
It's like regressing to infant-like mentalities because you are too scared to have an actual argument. Then, you take a **** and present it as high art since no one can argue about its cultural value.
If you've got a ******** excuse and can justify it you could smear crap on a canvas and call it art and people will believe it.
"Oh it's just so invigorating to see an artist become so connected with their own work and yet at the same time it as if their statement is showing waste and degradation as if a part of them has been cast away"
I pity anyone here who is starting an art degree in the new study year, enjoy the annoying presentations of so called art, you will see some serious **** and i can give you an example.....
An hour long presentation on an artist who used her own period blood as paint on canvas and people were buying her paintings.
Yeah, good luck with that and i did a bloody photography degree so good luck with people doing full blown art, i saw some crazy **** but there's much worse.
I work in an art museum which changes art every month and every month it's worse than the last month. And the people that come to look at the art are the most pretentious and snob people I've seen in my life.
Art, like all things, is in the eye of the beholder. Art should be an individual experience. Do you get something form staring at a blank wall? Is the Mona Lisa less enjoyable or impressive to you than Nicki Minaj? Do you prefer audio over visual? Are you the kind of person who would sit for 4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence and get nothing out of it? Or would you come away with some sort of understanding?
All things, now, can be perceived as art. I don't think many people have a problem with that. It's the people with sticks up their asses who are causing the problem. People who want to rub their pretentiousness in everyone elses faces. They can go **** themselves. Art doesn't have to be appreciated. It doesn't even have to be liked. You can like or hate whatever the **** you want. Just don't be a douche about it.