Healthcare. INB4 huge debate on said country being better for free healthcare... In my country, the Doctor challenges us to a game of riddles. If we win, we get healthcare. If we lose, he takes your appendix as a trophy. Healthcare INB4 huge debate on said country being better for free healthcare In my the Doctor challenges us to a game of riddles If we win get lose he takes your appendix as trophy
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #18 - greenimp
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In my country, the Doctor challenges us to a game of riddles. If we win, we get healthcare. If we lose, he takes your appendix as a trophy.
#200 to #18 - gonzoen
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"The Doctor", capitalized? You must live in England, then.
#270 to #200 - nickypickle
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please.
User avatar #57 to #18 - iamnuff
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thats fine, you don't need that to live, right?
User avatar #323 to #57 - lyestcer
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure its a vestigial organ.
User avatar #343 to #323 - iamnuff
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ok. i'm fine with that.


my sisters burst and almost killed her, the doctors refused to believe it that might be Appendicitis, she was told it was gas, then a stomech ulcer, then they did like 4 pregnency tests, then sent her home, unable to even sit up without agony.


finally, on the 3rd day, our mother stormed in and shouted and screamed at them until someone did a ******* X-ray, then they tried to put off her surgery because "she's sleeping so peacefully" (AKA: knocked the **** out on morphine because she couldn't stand the pain)

finally they did the surgery (after more shouting) and it ruptured while they were doing it, the doctor came back and told us "lucky we caught it when we did, a couple more hours and she could have died"

******* NHS is in such a **** state.

hire more doctors, hire more nurses, stop closing hospitals and use our tax money for what it was intended for, instead of buying a fourth house in Spain!

******* government.
User avatar #362 to #343 - lyestcer
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Wow, thats kinda ****. At least your sister is fine now.

When we were in New Zealand, they found out my brother had appendicitis early and managed to remove it before anything happened. And thats about the closest I've ever gotten to the matter.
User avatar #103 to #18 - sirwolfcat
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I wouldn't call that a loss...
User avatar #104 to #18 - ThatsSoFunnyHeHe
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Russia sounds like a fun place
User avatar #147 to #18 - jajathezombie
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FREE APPENDECTOMIES FOR EVERYONE
User avatar #157 to #18 - schmuxy
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But what if you've already lost your appendix to a doctor?
User avatar #186 to #18 - PFCMadness
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What if you don't have an appendix?
#247 to #18 - kenleyP
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what if u dont hav appendix?
#187 to #18 - bloodharbringer
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User avatar #77 to #18 - witislimited
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I guess nobody in your country has appendicitis.
#33 to #18 - EnergizierAnon
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Doctors fw "what do i have in my pocket?"
Doctors fw "what do i have in my pocket?"
#48 to #33 - anon id: 14d1dd20
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What has it got in its nasty little pocketses
User avatar #237 to #48 - redcookiemonster
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User avatar #296 to #237 - joshlol
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#71 to #48 - anon id: b43055f2
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My... appendix?
#32 - maaarknuuuut
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oh boy, politics
#37 to #32 - anon id: b79d46ff
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yeah man, a 3rd party. this will rock.
User avatar #245 to #37 - turtletroll
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Well only having two choices for who will be the next leader of the most powerful country in the world is stupid
User avatar #310 to #245 - buttgauges
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To be fair, it's not like we are given only two people to vote for overall. They're just the two that it has been broken down to. There are other choices for the Republican/Democrat party that we get to choose from. It's called the primaries.
#257 to #32 - anon id: 045f95fd
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I jizzed on a paper towel then forgot about it.

30 minutes later I started to eat, used the paper towel to wipe off my mouth and ended up wiping jizz on my face.
#295 to #257 - yeorey
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#290 to #32 - AztecJew
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This
This
#293 to #32 - SILENCEnight
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**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #157 at I've heard of you and your honeyed words **
#307 to #32 - anon id: fda95f7f
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well actually in most states they hold a closed primary where we can only vote for just democrats or just republicans. Also gerrymandering look it up is causing the gridlock in washington. all in all if more people would vote we wouldnt have gridlock in congress
User avatar #97 to #32 - shitposts
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Don't blame the people, blame the electoral college. voting for a 3rd party in a system where the winner takes it all only hurts the two parties you agree with most. It is essentially throwing your vote down the *******.
User avatar #153 to #97 - baaltomekk
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Or blame the people that put up with such a ****** voting system
#74 to #32 - veryevilmen
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Go ahead, throw your vote away!
#124 - dishesaredone
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#126 to #124 - dishesaredone
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#167 to #126 - kurtr
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We need to go deeper. But damn i'm too lazy.
#182 to #167 - dishesaredone
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User avatar #223 to #126 - onewithpokerface
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We have to go deeper.

Achievement unlocked
100G - Complained about a comment complaining about the content.

Your move, dishesaredone.
#255 to #223 - dishesaredone
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no more
no more
#44 - eddymolly
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Haha, free healthcare for all!
User avatar #275 to #44 - hipickausername
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*Canadian
Sorry just had to correct
User avatar #175 to #44 - thedarkdefender
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Isn't it free based on your income?
#197 to #44 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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It's not free if you pay for it with taxes, you ******* idiot.
User avatar #226 to #197 - eddymolly
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Alright, £200 for unlimited healthcare
#231 to #226 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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Other people being forced to pay the difference for you doesn't make it any more "free" either.
User avatar #333 to #231 - eddymolly
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Well £200 is the average across the country, so saying other people have to pay the difference for it isn't true either, some pay more, some pay less.
#334 to #333 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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AND THE PEOPLE WHO PAY MORE PAY THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PAY LESS, RETARD
#246 to #44 - anon id: 8a93d61f
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"free"
User avatar #193 to #44 - trowlernotparas
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>free
>pls be ruseman
User avatar #62 to #44 - amirblumenfeld
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yeah and look at the **** we're in...
User avatar #63 to #62 - eddymolly
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Its not so bad. You may have to wait, and it goes wrong half the time, but at least we have healthcare
User avatar #95 to #63 - amirblumenfeld
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I suppose so, but it's a massively flawed system all the same.
User avatar #99 to #95 - eddymolly
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I dunno, its not so bad. There's a lot of waste, and some things are pretty poor and need updating etc, but compared to other healthcare systems, its not that bad.

Compared to a big business or something, its ******* appalling, if it were a company it would have been shut down years ago, but in terms of healthcare systems, its pretty good.
#142 to #99 - anon id: e1e53975
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i think by "look at the **** we're in" he meant your nation's massive debt compared to it's income... pretty serious
#204 to #142 - anon id: de763a5a
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Congrats! You don't understand national debt!

User avatar #225 to #142 - eddymolly
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Every country in the world has a national debt. Its no surprise, if a country didn't, it would mean they're doing something wrong
#340 to #225 - anon id: e1e53975
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okay, let's look at this way:

UK has around 10trillion debt, which is 406% debt to gdp... high debt low income.

US has around 17 trillion debt but only at 106%... higher debt, but MUCH higher income


while UK has less debt, it is in deeper **** with it's own debt than US with it's more debt.

let's look at it this way: UK has $100 debt, US has $170. you would say "hah US has almost twice the debt".. which might be true, but it doesn't matter since US earns around $169 while UK only earns $25.
#54 - iamnuff
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England, **** Yeah!
User avatar #88 to #54 - trishaferr
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English master race reporting for duty! 3 operations in the last 4 years, 4th booked for the end of January, and all for FREE! BOO YA!!
#298 to #54 - anon id: 9a164134
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>Implying the average Englishman could lift anything heavier than a straw
User avatar #72 to #54 - jamesisnotreal
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England Wales master race, you ******* still have to pay for your prescriptions
User avatar #78 to #72 - basilbrush
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You ******* have to pay for your plastic bags. Ours are still free for now.
User avatar #81 to #78 - jamesisnotreal
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i dunno, i'd much rather struggle too take my shopping home than pay to get my meds I aint paying no 5p for my bags biatch...
User avatar #82 to #81 - basilbrush
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I went to Aberystwyth for a holiday this year was a'ight and I was shocked to have to pay for bags I stole them from Morrison's, I ain't paying for bags either ********.
User avatar #83 to #82 - jamesisnotreal
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Its pretty ridiculous, and if somewhere doesn't charge for a bag, thats a measly 5p, they could get charged £5000 instead... and why'd you go Aberystwyth? its boring up there, shoulda come and partied in Cardiff Cardiff University Master Race
User avatar #288 to #83 - romdomcom
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Hey! Don't be dissing Aber! I grew up there! (Although it is boring unless you REALLY like the sea)
User avatar #85 to #83 - basilbrush
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We just fancied a change, but Wales seems like a cool place in general, and I wouldn't mind going down to South Wales, but I live in Sheffield so It was a shorter drive to Aberystwyth from there, it's a very quiet place though, a bit boring at some points. I enjoyed all the welsh signage.
User avatar #90 to #85 - jamesisnotreal
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Yeah, thats west wales for you in general, i live in South Wales, in the Welsh valleys I originally live, but i'm living in Cardiff at the moment, and we, as a family, tend to go on caravaning trips up to west Wales for the peace and Tranquility of it all, the feel of not needing to rush around etc. Although, don't feel i could ever go to Aberystwyth University though, would probably end up dying of boredom...
User avatar #344 to #78 - iamnuff
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only in some supermarkets, not in the ones I use
User avatar #347 to #72 - iamnuff
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yeah, thats ****.

then again, I don't have to, then again, i was just made redundant, so **** me, right?
#303 to #72 - anon id: 9898302b
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sheep shagger
#105 to #54 - kittywithclaws
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Sorry, I can't hear you over my free tuition
User avatar #346 to #105 - iamnuff
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pretty sure we have that too, atleast till age 20.
User avatar #370 to #346 - kittywithclaws
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For universities, england has a minimum tuition fee of something like £9000 a year. Scottish students get scottish universities for free
User avatar #373 to #370 - iamnuff
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oh, uni?

sure, we have to pay for that, but atleast we get school and college.
User avatar #374 to #373 - kittywithclaws
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Everyone in the UK gets school free, i believe
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User avatar #1 - demigodofmadness
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Not enough taxes are taken out for healthcare. If we want free healthcare, and it seems like a lot of Americans do, then we need an increase in taxes. You definitely shouldn't follow the logic of those guys though, they're idiots, funny idiots, but still idiots.
User avatar #87 to #1 - makomirocket
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America spends more tax dollars per person on healthcare than any country with free healthcare, why? because you refuse to follow the correct, simple and easy method
#269 to #87 - anon id: cdb9f87c
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the best method for free healthcare is to watch your own health
#292 to #269 - anon id: e43b993d
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I loled.
#2 to #1 - anon id: 8f3a1dd5
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You shut your commie mouth!
#11 to #1 - anon id: 0537896a
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False. There is more than enough tax money for free healthcare. The problem is wasteful government spending creating the illusion of tax money scarcity.
#12 to #1 - anon id: 1bd60aa9
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Instead of increasing taxes, maybe cut a little bit in the budget of defense which is monsterous. And use that to fund healthcare.
#23 to #12 - hansdieterli
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Exactly what I wanted to say
User avatar #137 to #12 - ganjalf
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first time I find myself agreeing with anon
User avatar #171 to #1 - godtherapist
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Why would you need more? Americans already pay more taxes for healthcare than socialized healthcare countries do.
User avatar #214 to #1 - KPatorx
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It also depends on how the money is spent. In Mexico, for example, a huge percentage goes into education, and Mexico is up there with the top ten that invest in that sector. However, almost all of the money goes to paying public teacher wages, and because of the system that teachers have, the abuse of it, steal the money, and don't work, since they pretty much have a guaranteed tenure.
User avatar #7 to #1 - Daeiros
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Actually, we don't need to increase taxes, we just need to start collecting them. Most major companies pay no taxes because they put all their money in offshore accounts and abuse loopholes that end up making the government owe them tax money despite posting billion dollar profits. then they whine about how all their money is tied up in offshore accounts and they cant use any of it because they would be killed in taxes, so the government gives them a tax holiday where they are allowed to bring it all back, free of charge. On top of that, we still pass laws lowering their taxes, and give them bailouts.

Of course there isn't enough revenue when only the poor are paying their taxes.
#8 to #7 - sgtxrootbeer
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Think about it liek dis, if i have $10, and my bud has $100, then hes gonna have to pay 10 times more then me, and of course he does because has about 10 times more than me. - logic

If that happens, then either 2 things result from it.
1, the goverment sees this and cranks up their taxes (through special bills that affect only them) to line their pockets, thus forcing them to abuse loopholes
2, a bunch of corp hating lib-tards see this and think their taxes should be cranked up, therefore they start a mentality that corporations are the problem, when its the opposite.
#61 to #8 - anon id: 20fec4dc
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Maybe if it was like
You have 100,000$ and your friend had 1,000,000$ bucks he'd pay ten times what you pay.

1. Then ******* do something about the government. Or realise that the damn corporations have more power than the government.
2. Corporations are a problem as long as they're doing this ****. Making monopolies/oligopolies, evading taxes, and so on.
#321 to #61 - sgtxrootbeer
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1, I love starting *********** on FJ
2, your anon
3, you don't have to vote for the guy who was paid by a corp, however I will vote for him if he isn't supported by a union, but rather a corp. Because it means he will be more likely to lower taxes, and therefore reduce taxes on the corp i work for, and as a result, I may get a bigger raise.
#3 to #1 - spacereptar
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While I agree with the free healthcare it is an absurd notion to say we need an increase in taxes. As a country we need to actively take measures to reduce costs of healthcare. Rather than spending money in some areas needlessly it should be redistributed to more constructive activities like healthcare. Less foreign military bases would be a good start in my opinion.
User avatar #29 to #3 - FJSoldier
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Yeah the trillion dollars spent killing people in other countries could be put to use saving people in your own eh :/
User avatar #38 to #3 - demigodofmadness
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Ok, I should've clarified, we need to either cut spending in some areas or increase taxes. Good luck getting either of those things accomplished in America.
User avatar #6 to #3 - asheskirata
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in complete agreement.
#327 to #3 - lazerdude
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We would still have to increase taxes to a certain degree. Many countries that offer free health care, around 40% of the GDP comes from taxing their citizens
#331 to #327 - spacereptar
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Not quite accurate stating "40% of GDP comes from taxing their citizens". I'm not sure if you're clear on what GDP is or how it is calculated but I understand what you are trying to say. My main point is that we have enough money from taxes and other revenue sources the money is just being spent improperly. We should use money being spent unwisely and reapportion it accordingly.
#289 to #3 - anon id: e43b993d
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I see you've recently purchased a Thesaurus to make it seem like you now what the hell you're talking about.

You want to know how other countries afford their free healthcare? Higher taxes. You think by canceling NFL stadiums(or whatever else you think we shouldn't spend so much money on) it will give us free healthcare? Thats not how it works and that's not how it will happen.

Tax pays for public safety, education, and government. And since we have ****** schools, ****** protection, and ****** government, what do you expect if individually Americans only pay at MAX up to 10% in taxes, whereas other countries like Norway, UK, Sweden, an individual will pay from 10-57%. With all that extra refenue--why the hell not give everyone free healthcare.

An "absurd notion" to pay more taxes? You, sir, are an ass.
#316 to #289 - spacereptar
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Although I do understand your position I do in fact understand what I am talking about. I am an economist and a statistician with a masters in both subjects. While yes in Nordic countries with more socialized democracies ( and economies) do have higher tax rates, depending on bracket, it does not mean the amount of money in each system is equivalent. Observe total budgets for military spending from both ends you will notice how significantly more the United States will spend. I am not suggesting military spending be cut entirely simply that efforts be made to shift government spending to other areas. Secondly we spend more for healthcare per person than those countries despite not having everyone on a health plan. Again as a country I think our focus should be on reducing health care costs rather than increasing taxes. An increase in taxes will shrink overall spending power of the middle class which is not a good move during a recovery period. Thank you for at least attempting to make a logical and intelligent argument I look forward to hearing a rebuttal.
#267 to #3 - locoluco
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#79 to #3 - anon id: c02f631c
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nice try romney
#58 to #3 - anon id: 20fec4dc
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As if the USA would even touch the military budget unless they're increasing it.
#51 to #3 - bigmanblue
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also you could easily cut military spending by somthing like 5% and you would have more then enough for free healthcare
User avatar #60 to #51 - meganinja
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what? I don't think roughly 2 billion dollars would pay for nationwide healthcare.
#64 to #60 - bigmanblue
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i was exagerating somewhat
the point is that the US spends the same amount on military as the next 14 top spenders combined yet for some reason thinks healthcare would cost to much
User avatar #65 to #64 - meganinja
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it's not just that, it's that not all Americans WANT free healthcare. America's a very individualist country, and nobody wants to pay for anybody else's ****, unless they feel like they might deserve it, like social security and disability.
User avatar #68 to #64 - meganinja
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although my numbers were way wrong, it would be about 30 billion dollars. still would only be 94 dollars per person in America.
User avatar #34 to #3 - icameisawilostit
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Here's an informative source for health care cost information.
Remove spaces for education.
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#24 to #3 - anon id: ebe0a180
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less military? **** you.
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#165 to #92 - newdevyx
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i like this free healthcare, but i don't care about this "masterrace" thing.
i like this free healthcare, but i don't care about this "masterrace" thing.
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All these comments arguing about politics.
All these comments arguing about politics.
#9 - itsthetie
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(11/07/2013) [-]
You did this on purpose OP.
You did this on purpose OP.
#163 to #9 - newdevyx
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(11/07/2013) [-]
he knows exactly what he did.