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#46 - allamericandude (07/29/2014) [+] (20 replies)
US health care is a complicated issue. It's expensive due to inelastic demand, but that isn't the whole story.    
   
Contrary to popular belief, the US does have socialized health care systems--Medicare and Medicaid. The US government spends more money on these than any other program, including the military. But they are bloated and inefficient, and they don't cover all Americans. They've created a vicious cycle where prices increase, so the government spends more money, which causes prices to rise again due to economics (supply and demand, etc.). These high prices go on to hurt the other Americans who only have private insurance. Now that Medicare and Medicaid are running out of money, because they are unsustainable, the government is trying to limit the money they pay out to doctors--who have responded by simply refusing to accept Medicare and Medicaid as insurance, leaving poor/older patients in the cold, and creating the crisis we have today.   
   
These issues are being compounded by the half-assed Affordable Care Act, which is why it is being criticized by both the smart left and the moderate right. (The far right is criticizing it simply because Obama, which unfortunately detracts from any genuine debate. And the mainstream left would never criticize it because doing so would be "racist".)   
   
My opinion is that if we want universal health care, it should be implemented at a state level rather than a federal level. Since the US is so large, state governments are much more responsive to local needs than the feds, and should therefore be more efficient. Vermont actually started doing this in 2011, and it seems to be going alright so far.   
   
*deploying 						**************					 kitty*
US health care is a complicated issue. It's expensive due to inelastic demand, but that isn't the whole story.

Contrary to popular belief, the US does have socialized health care systems--Medicare and Medicaid. The US government spends more money on these than any other program, including the military. But they are bloated and inefficient, and they don't cover all Americans. They've created a vicious cycle where prices increase, so the government spends more money, which causes prices to rise again due to economics (supply and demand, etc.). These high prices go on to hurt the other Americans who only have private insurance. Now that Medicare and Medicaid are running out of money, because they are unsustainable, the government is trying to limit the money they pay out to doctors--who have responded by simply refusing to accept Medicare and Medicaid as insurance, leaving poor/older patients in the cold, and creating the crisis we have today.

These issues are being compounded by the half-assed Affordable Care Act, which is why it is being criticized by both the smart left and the moderate right. (The far right is criticizing it simply because Obama, which unfortunately detracts from any genuine debate. And the mainstream left would never criticize it because doing so would be "racist".)

My opinion is that if we want universal health care, it should be implemented at a state level rather than a federal level. Since the US is so large, state governments are much more responsive to local needs than the feds, and should therefore be more efficient. Vermont actually started doing this in 2011, and it seems to be going alright so far.

*deploying ************** kitty*
#5 - ThekidsTEN (07/29/2014) [+] (12 replies)
He must not have insurance. Cost me $273.46 when I had surgery on my vocal cords and had my tonsils removed.
User avatar #82 - fyaq (07/30/2014) [+] (1 reply)
Then why don't people do it?

Oh wait

because armchair activism isn't based in real life.
#10 - Womens Study Major (07/29/2014) [+] (12 replies)
American doctors are incredibly well trained and rigorously tested before being allowed to perform operations, and they are worth every penny.
User avatar #63 to #24 - StewieGGriffin (07/29/2014) [-]
He said American, not white
#3 - guylongname ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
MFW United "sates"
User avatar #29 - adrianking ONLINE (07/29/2014) [+] (6 replies)
I guess you're not allowed to eat during these two years.
#99 - spleed (07/30/2014) [-]
I'm really tired of seeing this, guys.
#12 - heartlessrobot (07/29/2014) [+] (11 replies)
And then die of infection because the spanish doctor dropped his beans into your open surgery.
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You get what you pay for ***** . That's life, and it's not gonna change.
User avatar #74 to #12 - adrilazzaro ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
godammit you're dumb
#64 - Womens Study Major (07/29/2014) [+] (6 replies)
Then why don't you, you 						*******					 little prick
Then why don't you, you ******* little prick
#84 to #64 - wimwam (07/30/2014) [-]
This. OMG iphones in Germany cost 3x what they do in the US! Why not live in the US?!
Each country has benefits and drawbacks
User avatar #101 - warriormonk (07/30/2014) [+] (6 replies)
You want to know why. Here goes:

Reason 1: Current income tax rate in Spain around 54% (imagine having 54% of you pay check go to the government). All that money is going to pay for subsidized programs such as healthcare.

Reason 2: The US does a poor job of protecting its doctors and hospitals from stupid law suits. Resulting in high legal costs for both doctors and hospitals. I cant speak about current market costs but around 10 years ago a private practicing doctor's malpractice insurance cost about $55,000 a year. (Imagine a hospital now a days im sure your talking millions) You wont see that in spain, if you have a complaint good luck going to the government for a claim.

Reason 3: Health insurance not being used as designed. Many companies offer coverage for regular check-ups and routine care. NOT what insurance was designed to do. It is for emergencies and for high cost operations. The primary reason this effects the cost of the market is simple. PAPERWORK! on both ends, insurance companies and the hospitals. Who do you think takes the claims? files the paperwork? manages the electronic data for tax purposes? It means hospitals need to hire more people than they really need. added costs in the system.

So dont give me this **** . the US has the leading heathcare in the world. Foreign leaders fly in American doctors and American medicine because of the competitive system we had. You take away the competition, by introducing government and you lose the quality of service.
User avatar #107 to #101 - pebar ONLINE (07/30/2014) [-]
In the US total taxes are around 50% if you add them all up.
It's just the US system is insanely bureaucratic, inefficient, and corrupt.
#80 - icecreambobby (07/30/2014) [+] (4 replies)
Meanwhile in England
#105 to #80 - zukunft (07/30/2014) [-]
Can you see a specialist the same day?
#51 - BwainPhreeze (07/29/2014) [-]
'Murica FW
#4 - Womens Study Major (07/29/2014) [+] (7 replies)
This is the one thing that puzzles me beyond believe. How? How could healthcare in america be so much more expensive then Europe?

Costs are between 5x to 10x of the same care. Why are you accepting this? You are being horribly ripped off. On what should be a basic human right, you are charged for profit margins in the excess of 1000%.
User avatar #44 to #4 - butwhynot (07/29/2014) [-]
My understanding is that it has a lot to do with the negotiating position of the public. In most European countries healthcare is organized collectively. This means that the government / semi public government agencies set out orders for anything medical. For example synthetic hips. Then companies can bid at what price they are willing to deliver them and whoever can make the best hips for the most reasonable price gets to supply the entire order.

In american on the other hand these things are done privately. Now if you really need a hip, all the bargaining power is with the producer of the synthetic hip as well as with the hospital. Then since both the hospital and the producer are driven by profit in America prices can be set basically at any point they want. If you have a choice between dying or living with a severe disability or forking over cash you are going to pay. Insurance companies have some pushback power but for the most part their influence is to splintered to really do anything about it.

Another issue is costs and overhead for American hospitals. Lawsuits for example. But also Nurses are paid a lot better in the states than in most European counties where nurses generaly make **** all.

But don't quote me on anything, I'm not an expert.
User avatar #138 - tehlulzbringer (07/30/2014) [+] (2 replies)
good job! now take into account the fact that your insurance plan will leave you paying just a few hundred dollars. he didn't take that cost of food, entertainment, and other living expenses into account. and i love how he makes it sound like it would be his choice to stay for two years waiting for those hip replacements performed by amateur doctors

how about you pick up a book once in your lifetime or do your own research instead of spending your day reading cracked's "7 shocking, totally ******** facts we pulled out of our asses for you to tell your friends"
#120 - mynameisgeorge (07/30/2014) [+] (6 replies)
>Gives government subsidized price for Europe   
>Doesn't give government subsidized or private insurance prices for America   
   
Also "Hurr it's super easy to learn a language by immersion"   
   
This guys's a cunt   
OP's a cunt   
Anyone who buys this 						********					 is a cunt   
I'm a cunt   
You're a cunt   
   
						****					 you
>Gives government subsidized price for Europe
>Doesn't give government subsidized or private insurance prices for America

Also "Hurr it's super easy to learn a language by immersion"

This guys's a cunt
OP's a cunt
Anyone who buys this ******** is a cunt
I'm a cunt
You're a cunt

**** you
#52 - baddrawer (07/29/2014) [-]
My mate in the bull run
its scary fun
User avatar #35 - fuzzyballs (07/29/2014) [+] (13 replies)
he's oversimplifying this crap
you have more expenses than just rent
User avatar #16 - lean (07/29/2014) [-]
It would cost me $3,000 out of pocket, then I get a $1,500 reimbursement benefit, plus secondary coverage of $1,000 per surgery, $500 per diem, disability, and paid leave. I would probably make money. Something like 80% of private sector full time jobs have employee benefits. That's why the solution to healthcare isn't forcing it down people's throats, it is increasing the job market and increasing opportunity for education and employment.
yearly premiums of $1,700, up from $1,260 a year ago. thanks Obamacare
User avatar #130 - enigmaticspirit (07/30/2014) [-]
I wish I got a quarter for each time this was reposted. I would be one rich ************ .
#1 - meanberry (07/29/2014) [-]
I honestly thought you ment a hip, replacement first. As in "this is how much the replacement cost if you want it to be hip."
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