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#86 - trojanmannn
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(10/03/2013) [-]
it hurts me to see that people think universal healthcare is a good idea
#133 to #86 - randomserb
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Universal healthcare means everyone is healthy insofar as that's possible, at the expense of some of their income. I consider health a fairly important standard by which to judge the quality of life in a country. I also consider not dying of something arbitrary that easily could have been cured to be worth my money.
#126 to #86 - lemleet
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(10/03/2013) [-]
there are only POSITIVE examples in many parts of the world you ignorant twat
#118 to #86 - drooms
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(10/03/2013) [-]
It hurts me to see you post.
#90 to #86 - theseventhmirror
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
Tone can't be conveyed through text.
#95 to #90 - trojanmannn
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(10/03/2013) [-]
universal healthcare for US citizens? You know how expensive that would be and how long the lines would be to getting treatment? Also knowing that the government spies on us doesn't make me want to put my healthcare in their hands
#140 to #95 - toensix
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Look I'm not saying that I know enough about economics to make an argument for free healthcare. However here in Europe(at least where I live) there's no problem with waiting lists and yes you do pay higher taxes but that's(to me) a small price to pay for a healthier country

What I'm trying to say is: Why wouldn't it work in the US if it works in other parts of the world?
#98 to #95 - sexuality
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Why? They already know you're searching WebMD for "rash on my anus" so they can tell you what's wrong the second you walk in, thus creating almost no lines for the care.
#89 to #86 - krobeles
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Well, you're probably right. We here in Denmark have universal healthcare, and its a ******* godless hellhole, what with all the healthy people'n all.
Excuse me, while i go take a good long look at my government, that isn't shut down!
#106 to #89 - capslockrage
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#105 to #89 - pebar
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Obamacare isn't socialized healthcare. It's subsidized private healthcare which drives up prices and it forces people to buy private healthcare which also drives up prices.
#134 to #105 - toensix
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(10/03/2013) [-]
But you can't have actual socialized healthcare because OH MY GOD SOCIALISM@#)*#*$&#$&**().
#91 to #89 - trojanmannn
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(10/03/2013) [-]
How high are your taxes? How long does it take people to get the care they need? I'm not saying America's government is perfect but universal healthcare is not a good idea
#122 to #91 - batwill **User deleted account**
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(10/03/2013) [-]
In America, more of our tax money goes to healthcare than most other countries, because when uninsured people have medical emergencies, they can't afford it and end up declaring bankruptcy, which is where those taxes then go. Not to mention that they are more likely to have emergencies, because getting a routine checkup or any other preventative care would have to come out of pocket.
#110 to #91 - manofbeardliness
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Finally someone who knows something about the trade offs of universal healthcare. I'm taking macro and micro economics (for my major), and the stuff I've learned about how things actually work has completely changed my views on universal healthcare, capitalism, and politics.

Personally I do believe that there should be some form of free healthcare in the US. That way, lower income families would be able to get the care they need and others could pay for the better/faster treatment (instead of waiting 5 years for a knee transplant).
#104 to #91 - jordanmarch
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(10/03/2013) [-]
People in the US pay more for their healthcare than people in the UK do on their standard taxes.
#100 to #91 - wtfduud
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(10/03/2013) [-]
I think it's like 39%.
#97 to #91 - kinginyellow
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(10/03/2013) [-]
Well in Canada, taxes aren't high, and your wait time is shortened if you need immediate care, so ya it works out just fine.
#93 to #91 - anon
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(10/03/2013) [-]
You can apply the exact same logic to universal health care

"im not saying universal health care is perfect but the alternative is not the a good idea"
#94 to #93 - trojanmannn
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(10/03/2013) [-]
I don't really see your point...