Good point. . u cgh Why is it called stealing when your WIFI signal is trespassing in my town house Like . Comment Iii 24 people like this,. because not everyone's home is lined with lead bricks
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#2 - sgtxrootbeer ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
because not everyone's home is lined with lead bricks
#3 to #2 - duvallwhitey ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Every party needs a pooper. Thats why we invited you.
You just read that in my voiiiiiice
#5 to #3 - almaster (06/30/2014) [-]
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#49 to #7 - teFlyingNinja (07/01/2014) [-]
What is with this Kermit and his business recently? What is the source? I must know, for science.   
   
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What is with this Kermit and his business recently? What is the source? I must know, for science.

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User avatar #29 to #7 - XDmanlol (07/01/2014) [-]
*Wi-Fi
#39 to #7 - playerdous (07/01/2014) [-]
"your neighbor House"
#1 - imungo (06/30/2014) [-]
Oh 			****
Oh ****
User avatar #24 - numbmind (07/01/2014) [-]
If you don't have a password, you deserve to have it stolen.
#36 to #24 - anon (07/01/2014) [-]
Except it's not stealing the Wifi that's the issue, it's illegally accessing a router you don't own that's illegal. Even if you don't do anything with the network whatsoever, it is still illegal, but most people would say whatever to that.

It's really not much different than if I accessed your bank account, but didn't do anything to it. You can bet that the owner would freak the **** out and I'd be in deep **** .

Although the severity of the crimes is significantly different, the point remains the same.
User avatar #6 - securityexplain (06/30/2014) [-]
Now that we're mentioning it, whats the deal with being so proud of "stealing" someones WiFi?

This is 2014, not 2004. If at this point you are stealing a WiFi, you are either:

1.) A poor bastard, in which case I'm sorry for your troubles, but that doesn't give you right to be an asshole, nor for being proud about being an asshole.

2.) You do have ADSL, and you're being asshole for sake of being asshole. And then you're bragging about that, which makes you at least a triple asshole.

The amount of pure smugness emanating from these kinds of people is right there side by side with worst extreme liberals/vegans/SJW's that I've had displeasure of seeing.
User avatar #8 to #6 - reginleif ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Well in some jurisdictions, fruit that hangs over your yard is yours, in others fruit that drops on the floor in your yards is yours.... why not wifi?

#18 to #8 - Airmanator (06/30/2014) [-]
Because you can crack networks and clean sensitive information like credit card numbers and passwords for the network you've accessed. I've been asked for my wifi password before, and I told the person to 			****		 off. Call me whatever you like, but I won't let an unknown device on my network.   
   
So your analogy of fruit trees is kinda pointless. I'm surprised how ignorant most users are to wifi networks.
Because you can crack networks and clean sensitive information like credit card numbers and passwords for the network you've accessed. I've been asked for my wifi password before, and I told the person to **** off. Call me whatever you like, but I won't let an unknown device on my network.

So your analogy of fruit trees is kinda pointless. I'm surprised how ignorant most users are to wifi networks.
#23 to #18 - anon (07/01/2014) [-]
so you can do all that **** with someones wifi, but you cant even contain the signal to your domain only? sounds like you're ******* stupid.
#33 to #23 - Airmanator (07/01/2014) [-]
Yes, because I can control radio waves with my mind. You stupid ******* cunt.
User avatar #34 to #33 - vgmddg (07/01/2014) [-]
Some routers have a setting that allows you to change how far the signal emanates. The signal strength can be reduced to stop signals emanating out of your building.
You could also wrap your house in a Faraday Cage if you wanted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
User avatar #40 to #34 - playerdous (07/01/2014) [-]
Faraday Cage
A professor of mine bought an ex cops house and the house had so much reinforced steel through the walls and roof that this is what it became. Now I know what to call it, thanks.
#35 to #34 - Airmanator (07/01/2014) [-]
Some routers.

And how impractical.
User avatar #41 to #35 - vgmddg (07/01/2014) [-]
Well, if you really don't want anybody getting into your network, then
* Disable SSID (Service Set Identifier) broadcast.
* Use MAC address filtering to whitelist only the devices you want to have connected to the network.
* Change the SSID and administrative password every 30 days.
* Configure your router to use WPA2-Enterprise authentication. This uses an 802.1x authentication system which uses usernames and passwords, certificates, or devices such as smart cards to authenticate wireless clients rather than just a single password used by all users to connect. A RADIUS server is used to centralize user account and authentication information for every user on the network.
__* Change these passwords every 30 days.
__* Use Honeypots to lure hackers away from your RADIUS servers and other security machines.
* Use a firewall to cordon off your wireless devices from your wired network, and configure this firewall to not allow communication between the two networks.
* Put an Intrusion Prevention System on your network, which will detect and prevent unauthorized users from trying to gain access to your network.

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You could also just not have a Wireless Access Point, as they are generally easy vectors to get into a network.
User avatar #50 to #41 - Airmanator (07/01/2014) [-]
I do all of these, aside from a longer password change timeframe. Good advice for folks who don't know how to configure routers. Also, wireless isolation is a good thing.

Still, it's very uncommon to be able to limit your wifi signal. The best you can do is hide your network name and hope the script kiddie who wants in will spend 6-8 hours doing so.
User avatar #10 to #8 - richardbatsbak (06/30/2014) [-]
Even if its yours by law, you're still a dick
User avatar #11 to #10 - richardbatsbak (06/30/2014) [-]
...if you take the fruit I mean, not you
User avatar #13 to #11 - reginleif ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Yeah, but that's on the owner to properly trim trees to keep that from happening. Would it be less dickish to cut the tree? Demand that the owner erect a barrier to prevent any leaves from entering the property?

Trees are like wifi, the best solution is simply to keep your business to yourself and in order.... by not having any hanging fruit and by securing your connection.
User avatar #17 to #13 - richardbatsbak (06/30/2014) [-]
true
User avatar #9 to #8 - securityexplain (06/30/2014) [-]
Well, in relation to my previous post, lets ask first, "why?"
#15 to #9 - anon (06/30/2014) [-]
Stealing is breaking the rules. Breaking rules is 'cool'.
Rebelliousness is often admired as that person seems more in control of themselves, stronger, unique even if it is really out of valuing their own selfish desires over the good of society. People think they're 'beating the system'.

But in this case there aren't really any particularly bad consequences so people generally see stealing wifi more like a prank.
User avatar #12 to #9 - reginleif ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
Because as the OP states the signal is entering your property. People have long had the rights to pick up signals, as long as their devices met FCC specifications.
User avatar #14 to #12 - securityexplain (06/30/2014) [-]
As richard above said, you're still a dick. That kind of logic can be applied to literally dozens, if not hundreds of things. How about you take any of those, and measure time. Then tell me how long it went by until someone called you an asshole/dick/any other permutation on that concept.
User avatar #16 to #14 - reginleif ONLINE (06/30/2014) [-]
The argument here is rights as owner of the property and the surrounding airspace vs the rights of the owner of the internet connection. Really the argument can be made that you should be called a dick if you leave things around someone else's property.

User avatar #19 to #16 - securityexplain (06/30/2014) [-]
You do understand that laws like those don't apply to this kind of thing, right? And I'm not sure you're being serious, but if you are, I'd urge you to reconsider going public with it. You sound ridiculous.

By your logic, you could use any sort of millions of signals that pass through your home, in any way you seem fit. How about you try that, anything, and lets see how long it takes until you get summoned to court.
#22 - anon (07/01/2014) [-]
Wi-Fi causes head cancer. If I don't use up the neighbor's Wi-Fi radiation with Netflix on my iPad I will die of head cancer.
#21 - ashedust (06/30/2014) [-]
But wouldn't it be more accurate to say that when you turn on a wifi capable device, that your device sends out signal looking for ports it can connect to?    
   
Thus it'd be more like using a divining rod to find water, then digging a trench to someone's stream to take water from it and then saying "Well it's trespassing on my land now, so I've got rights to it.".   
   
Gonna go out on a limb here and say OP's logic is a bit flawed.
But wouldn't it be more accurate to say that when you turn on a wifi capable device, that your device sends out signal looking for ports it can connect to?

Thus it'd be more like using a divining rod to find water, then digging a trench to someone's stream to take water from it and then saying "Well it's trespassing on my land now, so I've got rights to it.".

Gonna go out on a limb here and say OP's logic is a bit flawed.
#25 to #21 - anon (07/01/2014) [-]
please stop posting this ****
it's almost as bad as ponies at this point
#26 to #21 - hackenschlock (07/01/2014) [-]
well its not funny anymore, I hope you are satisfied...
User avatar #27 to #26 - ashedust (07/01/2014) [-]
=(

Sorry for ruining the everything
User avatar #31 to #21 - anomorphous (07/01/2014) [-]
thumbed for cat tits.
User avatar #32 to #31 - ashedust (07/01/2014) [-]
Haha
User avatar #42 to #21 - mrnpc (07/01/2014) [-]
If a stream passes through your land, that part belongs to you. Not the best example m8
User avatar #43 to #42 - ashedust (07/01/2014) [-]
You didn't read my example very well, did you?

Cause I said

1) It's someone else's stream
2) You dig a trench to it to divert it's flow, implying it's not on your land.
User avatar #44 to #43 - mrnpc (07/01/2014) [-]
Sorry, that was my bad.

Previous statement redacted.
User avatar #45 to #44 - ashedust (07/01/2014) [-]
It's cool.

Take a thumb of goodwill.
User avatar #46 to #45 - mrnpc (07/01/2014) [-]
Gracias, kind sir.
#20 - Mutador (06/30/2014) [-]
When is it called stalking when the light is reflected off of your naked body and through the window to the outside (a public place)
User avatar #48 - cazabrow ONLINE (07/01/2014) [-]
When they invade, tell my WI-FI love her.
#47 - themoderguy (07/01/2014) [-]
no i wasn't uhh... stealling i was.. um.. uhh.. PENTESTING! yeah thats it...  you just don't have a password so its easy
no i wasn't uhh... stealling i was.. um.. uhh.. PENTESTING! yeah thats it... you just don't have a password so its easy
User avatar #38 - kouzan (07/01/2014) [-]
Why is it called drug running if they don't actually run?
User avatar #37 - shogg (07/01/2014) [-]
I lived next to my school from third grade up to sixth, and we just used my school login stuff to get free internet.
Now I pay for internet like a responsible and upholding adult.
User avatar #30 - captinchikin (07/01/2014) [-]
If you don't know how to change your router's settings and block IP's then you deserve it.
#28 - gtocforyou (07/01/2014) [-]
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#4 - nexdemise (06/30/2014) [-]
In most jurisdictions these days it's not stealing unless you have to break the encryption to get in.
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