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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#61 to #21 - hopporto
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what
User avatar #63 to #61 - PVTDickStryker
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HELLBENDERS - Applooza
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User avatar #19 to #1 - PVTDickStryker
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>Implying every male is tankier than every female
>Implying a need for agility supersedes practicality, decency, and protection from exposure.
The metal bikini is a marketing ploy used to attract a larger portion of the main gaming demographic; libido-induced young males. If you see it as anything more than that, then you're just a moron trying to vindicate your need for titillation. Go play your ****** softcore fap-fuel like Scarlet Blade.
User avatar #92 to #19 - elcreepo
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Hehe titillation
#7 to #1 - xcoreyx
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No it's because the target audience is male teenagers and we love boobs.
#13 to #1 - emptysuperman
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You are the worst kind of retard. You are a retard that thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
#15 to #13 - anon id: bcf9aa8f
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you said just what i felt, thank you!
User avatar #4 to #1 - Draigor
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Bro, that is why leather armor and stuff like that existed. Skimpy armor's sole purpose is the same as skimpy clothing.
User avatar #33 to #4 - Draigor
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To all who are wondering what he said(it went something like this):
ive said it once and ill say it again, the main reason for female armor being skimpy isnt because of teenage boys playing the game, its because a full set of armor would be too heavy. So to make it lighter they remove parts of the armor which allows the female to be more agile.
#48 to #33 - ninheldin
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Allow me to reply to what he said, if thats true the same can be done for male armor. Properly trained male or female one can wear a full plate just as efficiently. Removeing parts male or female would make you more agile, sacrificing protection. There where women who fought in full plate in the medieval times, they would bind their breasts or even go as far as cutting them off so they could wear the same armors as the males.
User avatar #133 to #48 - talldumbdork
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They.....they did what to their breasts?
#139 to #133 - ninheldin
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Their breasts would get in the way or be to constricting in the armor, so they cut them off.
User avatar #20 to #4 - katarinaismywaifu
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******** rekt him m8
#5 - kingdaniel
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**kingdaniel rolls 80**
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**peterbowser rolls 52**
#38 to #5 - tacolishous
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**tacolishous rolls 76**
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#57 to #5 - chrispoot
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**chrispoot rolls 27**
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**hopporto rolls 95**
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**lyder rolls 66**
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#28 - madcoww
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Aw yeee....
#121 to #28 - drroxxo
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This sums up how I feel about that.
This sums up how I feel about that.
#128 to #28 - pokelova
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I wanna see the front side.
I wanna see the front side.
#3 - include
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User avatar #27 - majormayor
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This joke sure is funny after the six gorillionth time.
User avatar #35 to #27 - dantemp
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This joke sure is *still* funny after the *sixth* ...
User avatar #36 to #35 - majormayor
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I'm sure I've seen it much more than six times.
User avatar #134 to #36 - dantemp
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my bad. I was sleepy
User avatar #84 to #35 - rhc
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sixth gorrilionth? that doesn't sound right.
User avatar #29 to #27 - mrjunebug
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I'm not an astrophysicist or anything, but I'd say that number is morbidly obese.
User avatar #30 to #29 - majormayor
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Numbers can't be fat!
User avatar #31 to #30 - mrjunebug
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Well, excuse me Mr. Geologist.
#54 to #31 - arreatface
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#65 to #27 - digitalfruit
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"gorillionth"   
   
I'm sure it was intended but your avatar just makes it much better.
"gorillionth"

I'm sure it was intended but your avatar just makes it much better.
User avatar #67 to #65 - majormayor
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I actually didn't think of that.
User avatar #123 to #67 - romanlettuce
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the ape is strong with this one
#41 - anon id: b8da450a
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But dude's armor in video games is meant to make them look attractive as well.

Men have a different sex appeal than women. Men of wealth and power (Big, shiny, spiky, etc. armor) are considered attractive while women of allure and beauty (revealing clothing, jewelry, etc.) are considered attractive.

Also statistically more men play video games than girls, so of course developers tailor to the market and not to one person's selfish wants.

And aside from any of those points there are plenty of egalitarian games out there. Praise the Sun baby.
User avatar #82 to #41 - calawesome
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We know, but do you think 'Super-feminists' use proper logic?
User avatar #94 to #41 - nigeltheoutlaw
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Only 55% of gamers are men, so it's not that much higher than the girls.
User avatar #97 to #94 - zekeon
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I'd like to know where that statistic came from.
User avatar #137 to #97 - nigeltheoutlaw
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What'd you think?
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#127 to #94 - anon id: 0ef118e7
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facebook games dont count
User avatar #47 to #41 - romeosdistress
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Actually, a fairly recent statistic stated that 45% of all video game players are female. You're still technically right, but not by a whole lot. And I would argue that if game devs worked harder to be inclusive to both genders, i.e. try not to make any gender in particular uncomfortable with marginalized portrayals and the like, we could see a lot more female gamers out there. There's never a downside to inclusivity, IMO.

I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, I'm just giving my two scents. I hope none of this comes off as offensive.

IMO, the single most inclusive video game series out there is Saints Row. Yeah, it's un-PC as hell, but its cast is the most diverse out there, and you can have your character portrayed however the hell you want, be they landwhale or neckbeard, and anything in between.
User avatar #51 to #47 - abysmalshadow
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AFAIK, it's only split 55%-45% if you count anyone who's ever tried a game as a "video game player". I know some of those studies even include smartphone gamers.
Also, men are typically more "hardcore" gamers, and male gamers tend to play significantly more per day than female gamers do.

I do agree that inclusivity is good, though. Thing is, I don't think the market is particularly exclusive. A lot of more recent titles let you choose your character's sex, and really, most of the actual girl gamers don't really care either way maybe a skewed example, but a lot of girls playing Mass Effect prefer male Sheperd . Most of the people who complain about it aren't even gamers.
#58 to #47 - timmywankenobi
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That study funded by feminist pooled girls who play any cell phone mini game at least once in their lives in the same pool as hardcore gamers that buy and play console games +12 hours a week. It is biased as all hell. Actual studies that divide them in to categories find that females make up between 15% and 5% of hardcore gamers in any given genre using a xbox or playstation or wii, 18-20% of moderate gamers and 43% of casual gamers who almost exclusively use cellphones or a wii .
User avatar #64 to #58 - romeosdistress
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Actually, the study I'm referring to was conducted by the ESA, a.k.a. the Entertainment Software Association, a.k.a. the people who run E3 and is made up of all of the biggest video game publishers in the US. How is that even close to biased? It would serve them absolutely no purpose to take one side in an argument. I don't see an end goal here.

The same exact study also found that 46% of all frequent video game purchasers are female. Meaning they are actively spending money on video games almost as much as men. Regardless of what games they play, they still make up a huge chunk of the community(personally, I've always found the line between "casual" and "hardcore" gamers to be quite stupid in general, and I don't see how either of those makes either category less of a gamer than the other, but there's me trying to be inclusive again).

And even if, for the sake of argument, said study is wrong, doesn't that actually prove my case? Wouldn't it make more sense to try and capture that missing demographic by making the majority of games more inclusive in its portrayals of varied and dynamic characters, be it through gender, race, religion, etc. without having to adhere to marginalization and stereotypes? There are certainly games out there that do that, but the fact that we can call those out so readily just shows how few and far between they actually are. I'm not trying to knock on developers' creative vision, especially because this is rarely ever their fault, but it seems to me like the publishers needlessly limit themselves when it comes to their audience.
User avatar #69 to #64 - timmywankenobi
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"The same exact study also found that 46% of all frequent video game purchasers are female."- are they counting a 70$ console game in the same category as a 2$ app ?
Also I would like to see this study.

Regardless of what games they play, they still make up a huge chunk of the community(personally, I've always found the line between "casual" and "hardcore" gamers to be quite stupid in general, and I don't see how either of those makes either category less of a gamer than the other, but there's me trying to be inclusive again). - Again if females are not buying console games but 2$ apps they are not really helping the console gaming industry very much are they ? If Women only make up 5% of RPG sales they are not a very important demographic.

" wouldn't it make more sense to try and capture that missing demographic by making the majority of games more inclusive in its portrayals of varied and dynamic characters, be it through gender, race, religion, etc. without having to adhere to marginalization and stereotypes? There are certainly games out there that do that, but the fact that we can call those out so readily just shows how few and far between they actually are. I'm not trying to knock on developers' creative vision, especially because this is rarely ever their fault, but it seems to me like the publishers needlessly limit themselves when it comes to their audience. " -Most games these days are very inclusive but the problem is feminists and SJW's who account for about 1% of gamers are demanding drastic changes that will force many men out of gaming if they are instituted. Why should gaming companies who only exist because men supported them for the last few decades turn their backs on the largest part of their market to cater to the tiny sjw/feminist minority who only care about video games because it is one of the few male friendly places left in the world and they want to infest corrupt and feminize it to suit their desires ?
User avatar #79 to #69 - romeosdistress
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www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2013.pdf

My point is that if they do open up and appeal to that demographic more, they could stand to make a lot more money than they already do. Game publishers already spend a **** ton of money trying to appeal to a wider audience as is, why not try and make it even wider by being more inclusive to other races and genders? Maybe if they did that, you'd see those percentages in the demographics go up. The male gamers will always be there and will buy the stuff no matter what the heroes look like(as evidenced by stuff like the GTA games, Bayonetta, Tomb Raider, and other games with female protagonists), so why not add to that revenue by making it a more welcome environment for women? I don't see a single downside to more inclusiveness in video games.

sjw/feminist minority who only care about video games because it is one of the few male friendly places left in the world and they want to infest corrupt and feminize it to suit their desires ?

Right here is where you lost me. You realize that this sounds every bit as insane as the typical anti-gaming rants such people you're referring to go on, right?

Those games exist already and more are released every year.

Name me five games announced at E3 this year that featured a female protagonist or a protagonist of color that aren't part of an established franchise as the main prayable character. I can almost guarantee you if you try to do this, you will probably need to Google it, and if you don't see how that isn't symptomatic of exactly the thing I'm talking about, there's no helping you.
User avatar #118 to #79 - timmywankenobi
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That pdf states they count a 75$ console game as the same thing as a 2$ app and if you have ever used a app you are a gamer. - If that is not biased to inflate the value of females in the market I don't know what is.
#117 to #79 - timmywankenobi
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"Male gamers will always be there and will buy the stuff no matter what the heroes look like(as evidenced by stuff like the GTA games, Bayonetta, Tomb Raider, and other games with female protagonists), so why not add to that revenue by making it a more welcome environment for women? " because SJW's want games to fit feminist not women and it doesn't stop at adding more female protagonists it also means all there other demands like No large breasts or sexualiation of women via provocative clothes or skimp Armour , no women being rescued. no women getting killed in the story , no princesses, no over the top violence, no mayhem, no using gender based derogatory worlds like cunt or dick , no heterosexual sex scenes, no male hero's saving women in need, no women being portrayed as stay at home mothers, no sexual assault like touching female npc's with out consent or tea-bagging female characters in halo. If you honestly think male gamers would stay if the gaming industry instituted all the changes feminist and sjw's want then you are a retard.

"Name me five games announced at E3 this year that featured a female protagonist or a protagonist of color that aren't part of an established franchise"- way to move the ******* goal post now it's not enough to have a bunch of female protagonists they also have to be showcase headliners from new franchises ? Women are a minority of the market so naturally there are less games with female leads then male leads.Not to mention women are allow on the front lines so that rules out almost every war simulation game.
User avatar #68 to #64 - romeosdistress
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And don't get me wrong here, I don't actually care about the politics of all this, and I'm not here to suck out the fun of games that other people find enjoyment in. All I want from this discussion(not literally this discussion, but the discussion of representation in the gaming community as a whole) is to be able to find more triple-A games where the hero isn't a just a generic white guy, or where the women don't just exist as eye candy. I just want more characters that look as different and dynamic as they act between different games.
User avatar #70 to #68 - timmywankenobi
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Those games exist already and more are released every year. You can Google search and find over 200 games that fit that bill in many different genre easy.
#49 to #47 - anon id: b8da450a
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It depends what market you're going into.

MMO? Action? FPS? Sports? You're probably looking at 30% female 70% male. Mobile games, casual games, and other games like that (which are a large part of the industry) are probably 50/50, some genres most likely even favoring women, which brings the average closer to 45%.
User avatar #59 to #47 - Timmietim
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That includes facebook games and ****
#44 to #41 - jimmytwoshoes
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oh my god do i praise
oh my god do i praise
#50 to #44 - anon id: b8da450a
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I PRAISE EVERY SINGLE DAY
#114 to #50 - telfyr
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FOR A REVOLUTION!
#60 to #41 - wallacecrowman
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#78 to #41 - maximtiger
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indeed
indeed
User avatar #115 to #78 - thestolensweetrole
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I NEED MORE OF THESE GIFS
#140 to #115 - maximtiger
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that was my only one, sry
that was my only one, sry
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User avatar #45 to #41 - aesis
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I dunno, a guy wearing a skimpy two piece with bulging crotch armour sounds pretty damn arousing.
#8 - anon id: 787b55e6
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Seriously now,**** all of you who complain about skimpy armor! you all act like you don't like it
User avatar #10 to #8 - derpsenderp
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You have to be gay to not like it
User avatar #14 to #10 - PVTDickStryker
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Or someone who's not a mouth-breather. I bet you also like oversized pauldrons, faggot.
User avatar #22 to #14 - derpsenderp
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lel
#23 to #10 - anon id: 8ad52a11
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I'm not gay and I don't like it...
#91 to #8 - anon id: b1c15f0c
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The more options the better, I say . I want to be able to choose which characters get fantasy-stripper armor, and which characters dawn a full, bulky set. This is regardless of gender.
User avatar #11 to #8 - xgreenmaidenx
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I don't really like it. Especially when, say a guy and a girl get the same set of armour, on the guy it looks awesome and very protective. But the girl for some reason gets a super skimpy metal bikini. It doesn't make sense.
#18 to #11 - internetnick
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Well, it KIND of makes sense. Men are big. Carry more. Women are smaller and have weaker bones so big armor is just going to crush them when they get hit anyway.

They can be more agile seeing as the majority of their body strength is lower body, so it seems to me to make sense.
User avatar #32 to #18 - ninjaroo
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Average men might be bigger and stronger, but I'm gonna go ahead and say if they're meant to be the protagonist they're significantly stronger than every man in their world.
#86 to #18 - anon id: f0eb6716
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Leather armour, you twat. Leather. Armour. Other light armours.

Besides, women are perfectly capable of training for strength and a lot of them do so. Ever heard of female bodybuilders? Weightlifters? MMA fighters? All of them are a lot stronger than the average man and could support heavy armour, like fantasy men do.

Besides, the entire weight of heavy armour is outright ignored in video games. Do you ever wonder how your super-duper strong, male character in Skyrim is hiking over mountains wearing a full suit of steel armour? Because they shouldn't be able to. Even ye olde knights only wore heavy armour for short times and they needed someone to help them put it on and a lot of them ended up ******** themselves when they couldn't take it off.
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If she's taken eight arrows to the gut and lived, I'd say that armor is doing a swell job.
#40 - findaway
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This is my fetish.