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t Slavery as punishment. Rather than paying for people who commit major crimes (rape, murder, eta], to sit and do
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t Because then we' d have a bunch of black slaves again.
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User avatar #5 - landogriffin (10/15/2013) [-]
isn't that community service?
User avatar #57 to #5 - communityservices (10/16/2013) [-]
Im sure there was something I couldve fit in here
#74 to #5 - tabarzins (10/16/2013) [-]
Or you make a bigger version of this and have them spin it.
Why? To generate electricity.
User avatar #105 to #74 - goblingang (10/16/2013) [-]
Hehe, always reminds me of Arnie yelling out "Here comes the wheel of pain!" in the director's commentary. Check it out, it's even better than the film, trust me.
#17 to #5 - cookiedude (10/15/2013) [-]
Community service is more like trash pick up and working with the elderly folks in the home.

They're talking more so about working on the roads/ditches sort of thing.
#51 - josieabby (10/16/2013) [-]
Dark forces are at work here.
User avatar #73 to #51 - drtrousersnake (10/16/2013) [-]
read your comment as i was going to the next post and had to go back and thumb it
#118 - christmouth (10/16/2013) [-]
They do, it's called penal labour or prison labour.
User avatar #123 to #118 - ludislavonac (10/16/2013) [-]
In most countries today it's voluntairly only
#163 - nemula (10/16/2013) [-]
>implying this idea is new

Let me introduce you his majesty, emperor Joseph The Second, Ceasar of Austria, the "Mr. Krabs" of the 18. century. He ended capital punishment because he said "why throw away good working material"

also reuseable coffins and cutting privileges of the catholic church.
#165 to #163 - meinneger (10/16/2013) [-]
Sounds like a boss ****** .
#166 to #165 - nemula (10/16/2013) [-]
He was

Sadly Austria must not have any royalities anymore because of WW1, although we still have unofficial habsburger descendants
#196 to #166 - sonofthedeepsouth ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
**** ,where in the world there isn't a hapsburger descendant. Even the Brazilian imperial house descent from the hapsburgs.

Picture of the chief of the Brazilian Imperial house.
#29 - kuroking (10/16/2013) [-]
i'm black and i found this hilarious
User avatar #107 to #29 - KeyboardCat (10/16/2013) [-]
I dont need your permission to laugh bro
User avatar #189 to #29 - dairybun (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm half black, and I thought this was alright, not that funny.
User avatar #76 to #29 - fapfapclapclap (10/16/2013) [-]
bolbi is love bolbi is life
#84 to #29 - alphadolan (10/16/2013) [-]
You're not black you're Bolbi!


That's a race of it's own...
User avatar #134 to #29 - makethingsworse (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm white and I thought it was perfectly reasonable.
#40 to #29 - teranin (10/16/2013) [-]
>black guy
>name is kuro king

aaand this is the mental image I got.
User avatar #49 to #29 - sauditwo (10/16/2013) [-]
i'm not black and i also found this funny
#56 to #49 - caplocker (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm white and I want to know where you stole the computer.
#31 to #29 - hit **User deleted account** (10/16/2013) [-]
wow! a real life black guy! never thought i would ever see one on the internet! how's being  black going for you buddy?
wow! a real life black guy! never thought i would ever see one on the internet! how's being black going for you buddy?
#33 to #31 - kuroking (10/16/2013) [-]
just saying i can take a joke. calm your giblets
User avatar #34 to #33 - hit **User deleted account** (10/16/2013) [-]
i _wasn't__ being sarcastic
#35 to #34 - kuroking (10/16/2013) [-]
oh. my apologies. most people on the internet are sarcastic dicks  including myself
oh. my apologies. most people on the internet are sarcastic dicks including myself
#36 to #35 - hit **User deleted account** (10/16/2013) [-]
i understand. how's the black thing going though?
#38 to #36 - kuroking (10/16/2013) [-]
well in my area the whole being black and not acting like a thug is pretty rare so it gets me places.
well in my area the whole being black and not acting like a thug is pretty rare so it gets me places.
#125 to #38 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
Good fer ye ******
User avatar #43 to #36 - fukkentyranitar (10/16/2013) [-]
Depends whether or not people are talking about Zimmerman. It can get pretty scary if you ask me. I'm black too
#112 to #34 - JuliusC (10/16/2013) [-]
now now, you can't expect a ***** to be adept enough at readin' to be able to detect sarcasm, or even read for that matter.
#175 to #112 - drizztrocks ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
I ******* LOVE YOU
User avatar #177 to #31 - richhobo (10/16/2013) [-]
He is probably a slave.
User avatar #59 to #31 - thatawesomesexyguy (10/16/2013) [-]
I'm surprised. they spend most of their time around vine, instagram, and white girl's facebook photos
#193 to #149 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
damn girl...look at them all criminals...
#141 - thorseph (10/16/2013) [-]
it's called indentured servitude
#153 - dinkleiceberg (10/16/2013) [-]
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User avatar #127 - doctorhue (10/16/2013) [-]
We do that in Norway, only that the prisoners get paid for their work, and they get other jobs than just cleaning trash and other ****** stuff. We also use some of the money they earn to fund the prisons, which is why they are so nice.
User avatar #147 to #127 - evilruck ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
why everything you do seems so right and clever? Damn i wish i was born in Norway
#109 - StudmanSnow (10/16/2013) [-]
they do this in Brazil and a few other countries.
Their pedaling powers some street lights and **** and for every 24 hours on the bike they get 1 day off their sentence.
#25 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
As much as people want to say black people are more violent, watch that scared straight show. When the kids go in and talk to the prisoners, the black ones usually have much harsher sentences. 2 18 year olds, one black and one white both got charged with grand theft auto, the black kid got 25 years and the white kid got 18 months because he managed to make a plea deal. ( I'm not joking on this)
User avatar #146 to #25 - minorian ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
How can you get 25 years in prison for GTA?! That sounds like some 3rd world country **** .
#156 to #25 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
Except statistically speaking they are more violent. 50% of all crime is committed by blacks in the US despite being only 10% of the population.

And do you know how many prior offences the black kid had? That makes a gigantic factor in sentencing, and getting 25 years for something like GTA it sounds like he got his "third strike." Things might not be as cut and dry as you might think.
User avatar #39 to #25 - hudis ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
It's fairly obvious that black people are still massively mistreated in the U.S. and especially in matters of law. Unfortunately, all that the rest of the world can do is sit and watch while Americans insist it's not true and that is making people very bitter and frustrated about it.
User avatar #95 to #39 - xxiixx (10/16/2013) [-]
Show me a law that discriminates against black people, and how you would fix it.
User avatar #198 to #95 - hudis ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
Obviously it's not in the law. That would be far too open. It's evident in the fact that several studies show that between 1 in 3 and 1 in 9 black males will be imprisoned in ages 20-34, and that there are more black late-teens in prison than there are in college. Black people don't stand a chance in trials compared to white people. Crime and poverty are more prevalent in black ghettos, yet little is done about it, unemployment and lack of education still tear them apart, and it only worsens the sentences given to black people due to the three-strikes law. As for the death penalty, the saying "Capital punishment means that those without the capital get the punishment" applies. In 2009, 40% of death row inmates were black despite the fact that black people are a 12% minority in the U.S. Turning it around, we can look at murder victim statistics and conclude that while black and white victims are nearly equal in numbers, 80% of executions since the reinstatement of the death penalty have been executed for murders on white victims.

Something is absurdly wrong in this picture.
User avatar #206 to #198 - xxiixx (10/16/2013) [-]
Correlation =/= Causation.
You want my politically incorrect view on the situation as a whole? I believe that the cause of the higher incarceration rates among African - Americans is due to the environment they grew up in. The culture in the inner cities is one where police are viewed as tyrants rather than protectors of justice due to the prevalence and acceptance of crime in these areas. Some of these kids are brought up by drug dealers who have a hatred and disrespect for cops and the law and these views are passed on to the child. The child does all it knows and starts to sell drugs or w/e, but they don't see what they are doing as wrong because of their environment. They get arrested and blame the police NOT their surroundings. They see the police as the problem, not the terrible circumstances that they are living in. They don't want to get out of the ghetto, they just want to continue what they are doing without those pesky cops. As far as race goes, the exact same could and does happen to white children and adults in the same environment. The reason the rates are so skewed is that there aren't as many whites being brought up in this environment, not simply the color of the skin. And its funny really, Bill Cosby spoke out saying pretty much exactly what I am, and the black community socially crucified him. Telling blacks to rise from their poor surroundings and choosing an education over a gun was poorly received by the very community he sought to help.
tl;dr- The culture of the streets is to blame, not the justice system.
User avatar #207 to #206 - hudis ONLINE (10/17/2013) [-]
I disagree, but my view on the situation is somewhat similar. I agree that the environment is in part what causes the rates to skyrocket, but I don't think the 'culture of crime' can be entirely blamed on the populace of the impoverished areas. Unfortunately, in some ghettos law enforcement is rarely seen at all and that has been the case for decades. Therefore these areas are instead governed through crime and gang activity (It's all very interesting, you should read Gang Leader for a Day by Sudhir Venkatesh if you want to get deeper into the subject), and the cycle continues.

Point is that a lack of concern and funding for 'ghetto'-areas, as well as the as yet almost unaltered war on drugs rather than a war on poverty, ensures the survival and growth of the aforementioned 'culture of crime'. How I would fix it? Make education a primary focus in impoverished areas in cities, create a new branch if needed that focuses on exactly that; ghettos and victims of the ghetto reality. Schools would have to be better funded, teachers better equipped and trained to educate in this areas properly, and perhaps most importantly it would have to become an issue that is covered enough in the media that people care about it. Job opportunities, while difficult, would have to be moved into the ghetto to integrate rather than alienate the population. Healthcare would have to be made available for more than it is right now. Youth centres everywhere, again of improved quality, so that kids have a place to go and things to do to avoid getting into trouble outside.

I realise that it would take double or more of the funding such things already have, and that makes it ridiculously expensive, but it is my belief that government spending on these things would benefit the entire nation and its people much, much more than the current staggeringly high military spending ever could.
User avatar #208 to #207 - xxiixx (10/17/2013) [-]
But then you agree that it isn't our justice system at fault but rather environmental factors?
User avatar #209 to #208 - hudis ONLINE (10/17/2013) [-]
No, I do still think that a lot of the responsibility for the skew statistics can be attributed to people who abuse the law and legal process, and let their prejudices colour their judgement.
#2 - Hightower (10/15/2013) [-]
Because it violates the constitution. I mean other than that, it's a good idea.
#90 to #2 - sixtyeightplusone (10/16/2013) [-]
And you're presuming that we don't already violate the constitution? lol.
User avatar #104 to #2 - sirfiiddlesticks (10/16/2013) [-]
Since when the **** has the government cared about violating the constitution?
#137 to #2 - anon (10/16/2013) [-]
13th amendment ************
"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
#202 to #137 - Hightower (10/16/2013) [-]
The Peonage Act of 1867 ************ .
The holding of any person to service or labor under the system known as peonage is abolished and forever prohibited in any Territory or State of the United States; and all acts, laws, resolutions, orders, regulations, or usages of any Territory or State, which have heretofore established, maintained, or enforced, or by virtue of which any attempt shall hereafter be made to establish, maintain, or enforce, directly or indirectly, the voluntary or involuntary service or labor of any persons as peons, in liquidation of any debt or obligation, or otherwise, are declared null and void.
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#10 to #2 - buttholee (10/15/2013) [-]
>Violates the constitution

I'm Canadian, and I know that's hilarious
#9 to #2 - comehonorfacetwice (10/15/2013) [-]
I present to you the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]

>Except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted

Slavery is legal in the way it was described in the post.
User avatar #50 to #9 - detrek (10/16/2013) [-]
And the simple fact that being imprisoned is considered "slavery", as the people are there against their will and are required to be there or else face negative repercussions.

Actually knowing the constitution and being able to quote it > blindly saying **** is against it.
#201 to #9 - Hightower (10/16/2013) [-]
I present to you the Peonage Act of 1867.
The holding of any person to service or labor under the system known as peonage is abolished and forever prohibited in the territory of New Mexico, or in any other territory or state of the United States; and all acts, laws, … made to establish, maintain, or enforce, directly or indirectly, the voluntary or involuntary service or labour of any persons as peons, in liquidation of any debt or obligation, or otherwise, are declared null and void."
The current version of this statute is codified at Chapter 21-I of 42 U.S.C. § 1994 and makes no specific mention of New Mexico.
The holding of any person to service or labor under the system known as peonage is abolished and forever prohibited in any Territory or State of the United States; and all acts, laws, resolutions, orders, regulations, or usages of any Territory or State, which have heretofore established, maintained, or enforced, or by virtue of which any attempt shall hereafter be made to establish, maintain, or enforce, directly or indirectly, the voluntary or involuntary service or labor of any persons as peons, in liquidation of any debt or obligation, or otherwise, are declared null and void.

User avatar #24 to #9 - marinald ONLINE (10/16/2013) [-]
So many people around where I live think that system is great and is ignored so much... BUT I do live in the south soooo...
#172 to #85 - randombro (10/16/2013) [-]
Where did you get this picture? She looks EXACTLY like my grandma.
#75 - llamadude (10/16/2013) [-]
Or give them the option to become product testing guinea pigs. I dont like seeing cute, innocent animals be tortured so why not the criminals
Or give them the option to become product testing guinea pigs. I dont like seeing cute, innocent animals be tortured so why not the criminals
User avatar #77 to #75 - strangemoo (10/16/2013) [-]
...Why a choice? We could have a corrupt prison system where scientists come in and use them as lab rats! We'll have the Mega-Zombies within the week I tell ya!
#78 to #77 - llamadude (10/16/2013) [-]
I mean a lot of criminals are a lot bigger than me (I'm somewhat scrawny) I'd rather have potential zombies with paraplegics so atleast they cant chase people easily
User avatar #80 to #78 - strangemoo (10/16/2013) [-]
Well, when me and Veradux are running around killing ZPCI agents as zombies, I'll probably think about you.
User avatar #126 to #75 - Bacula (10/16/2013) [-]
its so cute and adorable im gonna die
#98 to #75 - Keoul (10/16/2013) [-]
But then they might get superpowers and take over the world!
Just imagine... criminals with 5 ears, glow in the dark and are immune to cancer!
User avatar #103 to #98 - sadistikal (10/16/2013) [-]
Still not immune to bullets.
User avatar #139 to #103 - shiifter (10/16/2013) [-]
I laughed way too hard at this.
User avatar #174 - PenguinsOfMars (10/16/2013) [-]
...they already do that... Here inmates to work to lessen their sentence, for instance painting the lines and writings on streets, cleaning highways, etc
User avatar #178 to #174 - leemcgiffen (10/16/2013) [-]
Where about are you from? From where I am (Fife, Scotland) I dont think ive ever seen inmates out and about cleaning or painting like you mentioned etc.
#119 - grandogger (10/16/2013) [-]
or use them to create philosophers stones.
User avatar #8 - tenaciousjon (10/15/2013) [-]
Umm... Because then you have to trust those criminals not to ******* murder everything once you leave them with their new "Masters"?
User avatar #13 to #8 - killerliquid (10/15/2013) [-]
Depends on how that criminal got in
User avatar #14 to #13 - tenaciousjon (10/15/2013) [-]
True. But it would be a bit tough to judge who can really be trusted, wouldn't it?

I mean, they can just act all nice and once they get out, rape a chicken.
User avatar #18 to #14 - killerliquid (10/15/2013) [-]
Raping the chicken is probably legal in 10 states or summin
User avatar #22 to #18 - tenaciousjon (10/16/2013) [-]
**** . Umm... A cow?
User avatar #27 to #22 - killerliquid (10/16/2013) [-]
beastiality in general really.
User avatar #32 to #27 - tenaciousjon (10/16/2013) [-]
Okay, what if they got out and punched my Grandma?
User avatar #42 to #32 - killerliquid (10/16/2013) [-]
***** better not have taken yo grandma's offer fo' food
User avatar #45 to #42 - tenaciousjon (10/16/2013) [-]
If he did, I don't think he'd be physically capable of pulling off crimes.

He'd be a big fat ball stuffed with... Pasta and roast and all that good **** .
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