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akulakhan ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] This 'history' is full of holes and false information. Not to mention spelling errors.
Vaults were social experiments to determine how people would react in long-term isolation conditions. The Enclave had plans to actually escape the Earth in a space ship, so that's why they wanted to test such conditions on living population first. The vaults were never meant to save anyone after all. But that's the only connection, the plans were eventually scrapped. And the Enclave chose to hide on the Oil Rig. Speaking of which, they ran onto the Oil Rig, not out of it, because no one would bomb the last oil reserve left in the world. It was a gambit but it worked.
Brotherhood of Steel was formed to contain and maintain technology, because Maxson (the very first Maxson) considered it dangerous in irresponsible hands. BoS never fought with the Enclave for the control of the government, they only realized their existence 160 years after the war. That was on the west coast of course, east coast history is different. The original BoS and the original Enclave never actually crossed arms on the west coast, because both were too busy with NCR (hell, during FO2 you meet a BoS member who tells you they've fallen behind in comparison to the Enclave).
FEV was created by West Tek (not Westec) initially as a counter-measure against a Chinese biological weapon attack, should they do such a thing. But testing it on animals made them grow in size and their brain activity to increase. So the army decided to make a virus that would create super soldiers. Guess they never had a chance to fix the virus so it doesn't turn people into muties, because the war happened.
And finally, NCR was founded by the people of Shady Sands, who were descended from Vault 15. Similarly, the Khans were also founded by people from that vault, but they threatened the existence of Shady Sands until the Vault Dweller quickscoped them all but one with his cool sniper rifle (or at least how I did back when I played Fallout 1).
All in all, it's not a good history summary, lore presentation is just atrocious. Sorry, OP (assuming you're the one who made it) but Fallout's history is much more than that.
Vaults were social experiments to determine how people would react in long-term isolation conditions. The Enclave had plans to actually escape the Earth in a space ship, so that's why they wanted to test such conditions on living population first. The vaults were never meant to save anyone after all. But that's the only connection, the plans were eventually scrapped. And the Enclave chose to hide on the Oil Rig. Speaking of which, they ran onto the Oil Rig, not out of it, because no one would bomb the last oil reserve left in the world. It was a gambit but it worked.
Brotherhood of Steel was formed to contain and maintain technology, because Maxson (the very first Maxson) considered it dangerous in irresponsible hands. BoS never fought with the Enclave for the control of the government, they only realized their existence 160 years after the war. That was on the west coast of course, east coast history is different. The original BoS and the original Enclave never actually crossed arms on the west coast, because both were too busy with NCR (hell, during FO2 you meet a BoS member who tells you they've fallen behind in comparison to the Enclave).
FEV was created by West Tek (not Westec) initially as a counter-measure against a Chinese biological weapon attack, should they do such a thing. But testing it on animals made them grow in size and their brain activity to increase. So the army decided to make a virus that would create super soldiers. Guess they never had a chance to fix the virus so it doesn't turn people into muties, because the war happened.
And finally, NCR was founded by the people of Shady Sands, who were descended from Vault 15. Similarly, the Khans were also founded by people from that vault, but they threatened the existence of Shady Sands until the Vault Dweller quickscoped them all but one with his cool sniper rifle (or at least how I did back when I played Fallout 1).
All in all, it's not a good history summary, lore presentation is just atrocious. Sorry, OP (assuming you're the one who made it) but Fallout's history is much more than that.
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masdercheef (12/04/2015) [-] Not to mention the Super Mutants in the Capital Wasteland were a result of the FEV testing in Vault 87, not some Enclave influence.
The FEV may have even been fairly successful in fighting the New Plague if the US government wasn't interested in registering US citizens using the Plague as a cover-up, and if they didn't hijack FEV in interest of creating super soldiers instead. And if the bombs never dropped but there are lots of things that would have been if the bombs never fell
You're right about the modified FEV in Fallout 3, though. FEV designed to kill FEV, what a time to be alive.
The FEV may have even been fairly successful in fighting the New Plague if the US government wasn't interested in registering US citizens using the Plague as a cover-up, and if they didn't hijack FEV in interest of creating super soldiers instead. And if the bombs never dropped but there are lots of things that would have been if the bombs never fell
You're right about the modified FEV in Fallout 3, though. FEV designed to kill FEV, what a time to be alive.
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snipys (12/04/2015) [-] Wasn't the FEV considered mostly a success before the war though? the only problem being that they couldn't breed? also another bit of information I know is that shortly before the bombs fell information about the FEV was leaked to the public causing panic and esculated things further.
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anon (12/04/2015) [-] It caused sterility indeed. It was a succes before the war but never left experimental stages, after the war the irradiated people no longer respond well to the FEV, and rather than causing a rise in cognitive function there was a sharp decrease.
The original Brotherhoof of Steel was just an army unit that desserted a few days before the bombs fell, their public declaration was never met with a response from the government.
They survived the blast, took their gear, and they were the one's who discovered the FEV facility where they were stationed. They executed all the scientists and left.
Later on The Master would take root in this facility and start to convert people into Super Mutants, hoping to unify the world as one race. It is the player who reveals to The Master the shocking reality that Super Mutants are completely sterile, and his "Utopia" will go extinct after one generation.
The master abandons his plans and heads East. The BoS persue the Masters army with airships (mostly BoS members that werent to content). They crashed near Chicago and formed the Mid-Western chapter, which is essentially a rogue chapter. Going rogue is kind of a common problem for the BoS.
But they battle it out with the Enclave nonetheless who also ended up in Chicago and spank them back. At this point the Enclave is not a major power anymore and the rise during Fallout 3 in Capital Wasteland was exceptional. Probably why we don't see any Enclave in Fallout 4, there is not a lot of them left after losing to the BoS 3x in a row.
Well technically once to the player, once to the player playing the BoS, and once to the player with the BoS.
Fallout lore is quite fascinating, altough i don't know to much about it so i may have been wrong about a few things.
The original Brotherhoof of Steel was just an army unit that desserted a few days before the bombs fell, their public declaration was never met with a response from the government.
They survived the blast, took their gear, and they were the one's who discovered the FEV facility where they were stationed. They executed all the scientists and left.
Later on The Master would take root in this facility and start to convert people into Super Mutants, hoping to unify the world as one race. It is the player who reveals to The Master the shocking reality that Super Mutants are completely sterile, and his "Utopia" will go extinct after one generation.
The master abandons his plans and heads East. The BoS persue the Masters army with airships (mostly BoS members that werent to content). They crashed near Chicago and formed the Mid-Western chapter, which is essentially a rogue chapter. Going rogue is kind of a common problem for the BoS.
But they battle it out with the Enclave nonetheless who also ended up in Chicago and spank them back. At this point the Enclave is not a major power anymore and the rise during Fallout 3 in Capital Wasteland was exceptional. Probably why we don't see any Enclave in Fallout 4, there is not a lot of them left after losing to the BoS 3x in a row.
Well technically once to the player, once to the player playing the BoS, and once to the player with the BoS.
Fallout lore is quite fascinating, altough i don't know to much about it so i may have been wrong about a few things.
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jordanish (12/04/2015) [-] What the **** are you talking about?
The master dies at the end of Fallout 1, the events in Chicago are to do with an old war computer called the Calculator and neither the Master Tactics happens because dissenters are sent to Chicago to hunt down remnants of his army nor the Enclave are in Tactics
The Enclave are beaten by the Brotherhood once, in DC with the help of The Lone Wanderer. In California they are beaten by The Chosen One who blows up the Oil Rig.
The master dies at the end of Fallout 1, the events in Chicago are to do with an old war computer called the Calculator and neither the Master Tactics happens because dissenters are sent to Chicago to hunt down remnants of his army nor the Enclave are in Tactics
The Enclave are beaten by the Brotherhood once, in DC with the help of The Lone Wanderer. In California they are beaten by The Chosen One who blows up the Oil Rig.
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jordanish (12/04/2015) [-] FEV was designed as a counter measure to biological warfare but adapted into a possible way of surviving nuclear fallout, hence why Vault-Tec was able to get their hands on it and use it in Vault 87 Also Vault-Tec began as a company researching the validity of a space ark but although the plan was seen as a pipe dream it was never discontinued and the GECK was their answer to terraforming other planets designed to be extensively tested in the fallout of atomic war
The Brotherhood adopted its tenants as a result of the FEV experiments they saw at Mariposia and mutinied three days before the war They never got a response from their superiors because the war was about to break out . The Brotherhood has existed since the start of the war, they sealed Mariposia and led an exodus to Bunker Hill where they set up shop. 160 years after the war would be 70 years after their bloody war with the Master and 20 years before The Enclave show up
The Brotherhood adopted its tenants as a result of the FEV experiments they saw at Mariposia and mutinied three days before the war They never got a response from their superiors because the war was about to break out . The Brotherhood has existed since the start of the war, they sealed Mariposia and led an exodus to Bunker Hill where they set up shop. 160 years after the war would be 70 years after their bloody war with the Master and 20 years before The Enclave show up
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wrpen ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Here ya go: fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
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darrensankari ONLINE (12/05/2015) [-] Would have been nice to know what happened to Scandinavia when the bombs fell.
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jaevel ONLINE (12/05/2015) [-] I do not know for the rest of Scandinavian, and I now that the Fallout universe is a universe where the 1950s never really ended. But I ca still imagine them creating the nuclear shelter on Svalbard, just outside of Norway.
It is much less designed to save human life tough. As it is full of seeds to plants in the case of a global genocide of plants due to the fallout radiation.
It is much less designed to save human life tough. As it is full of seeds to plants in the case of a global genocide of plants due to the fallout radiation.
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ognuggetry (12/04/2015) [-]
What happened to Japan? "Never occupied by Chinese forces, but exhausted and Finlandized?" Exactly WHAT!?!?!?
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ognuggetry (12/04/2015) [-]
I got the exhausted part but when did Finland invade Japan?
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jaevel ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] I found the definition of the word.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization
Remember, if you ever wonder what a meaning of a word is, Google is your friend!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization
Remember, if you ever wonder what a meaning of a word is, Google is your friend!
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anon (12/04/2015) [-]
You made some mistakes yourself, fam.
Vaults were intended to test more than isolation. There were many other experiments too, such as a vault where all children were raised by robots with no adult supervision, a vault where the vault door would fail to close completely, exposing the dwellers to constant radiation, and so on. There were also few control vaults that had **** like GECK Garden of Eden Creation Kit, that were intended for repopulation of US as intended. Dwellers from one of such vaults founded a Vault City, even, and eventually joined NCR.
While Brotherhood didn't really bother fighting Enclave much, they actually uncovered some nefarious plans of the Enclave/US government elite, that is, most of them were just grunts guarding the Mariposa military base where FEV experimentation and power armor testing took place. They later moved to Lost Hill government bunker.
They actually managed to create a cure for FEV back in pre-war days, but that would require you to still have a sample of pre-transformation DNA of the infected. Dunno if you consider Fallout 4 canon or not, but it seems Institute has developed a technology that doesn't even require the previous form genetic sample.
The thing between Khans and Shady Sands was that Vault 15's experiment was that it was deliberately filled with the people of extremely diverse ideologies and cultures - there were anarchists, fascists, liberals and so on. Jackals and Vipers were other gangs founded by people of Vault 15.
Vaults were intended to test more than isolation. There were many other experiments too, such as a vault where all children were raised by robots with no adult supervision, a vault where the vault door would fail to close completely, exposing the dwellers to constant radiation, and so on. There were also few control vaults that had **** like GECK Garden of Eden Creation Kit, that were intended for repopulation of US as intended. Dwellers from one of such vaults founded a Vault City, even, and eventually joined NCR.
While Brotherhood didn't really bother fighting Enclave much, they actually uncovered some nefarious plans of the Enclave/US government elite, that is, most of them were just grunts guarding the Mariposa military base where FEV experimentation and power armor testing took place. They later moved to Lost Hill government bunker.
They actually managed to create a cure for FEV back in pre-war days, but that would require you to still have a sample of pre-transformation DNA of the infected. Dunno if you consider Fallout 4 canon or not, but it seems Institute has developed a technology that doesn't even require the previous form genetic sample.
The thing between Khans and Shady Sands was that Vault 15's experiment was that it was deliberately filled with the people of extremely diverse ideologies and cultures - there were anarchists, fascists, liberals and so on. Jackals and Vipers were other gangs founded by people of Vault 15.
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phunkyzilla (12/04/2015) [-] he also left out the death of the master and several other plot points
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swaggerwagon ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] some of this is horribly wrong and skips giant portions of the history.
this is a much better representation: www.polygon.com/features/2015/11/9/9646378/fallout-timeline-4-3-2
this is a much better representation: www.polygon.com/features/2015/11/9/9646378/fallout-timeline-4-3-2
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tacoperson (12/04/2015) [-]
do you have a link that I can view while still boycotting polygon?
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PVTDickStryker (12/04/2015) [-] The Brotherhood of Steel was formed from military deserters whos commander committed suicide after finding out about the experiments done to POWs in the Mariposa military base where they were stationed. The military personnel killed all scientists and took shelter in the base from the bombs with their families. Once out, already equipped with power armor, as well as knowledge on the use of military equipment, they made it their duty to find and preserve pieces of advanced technology, they werent formed as a direct result of the Enclave's *********** since, in essence, the group that ended up founding the BoS was around since before the Enclave was officially formed.
Vault 87 was the source of the Super Mutants in DC. The enclave didnt expose the area to dick, the Overseer and his guards were ordered by Vault-Tec to put everyone in air-tight rooms and vent FEV into them. The overseer and his guards didnt know what FEV was so they rolled with it. When the first supermutants were formed, they ****** everyone and forced them into becoming supermutants themselves, then they went out kidnapping people to bolster their ranks. Again, Enclave didnt have dick to do with this.
This post is ****
Vault 87 was the source of the Super Mutants in DC. The enclave didnt expose the area to dick, the Overseer and his guards were ordered by Vault-Tec to put everyone in air-tight rooms and vent FEV into them. The overseer and his guards didnt know what FEV was so they rolled with it. When the first supermutants were formed, they ****** everyone and forced them into becoming supermutants themselves, then they went out kidnapping people to bolster their ranks. Again, Enclave didnt have dick to do with this.
This post is ****
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PVTDickStryker (12/05/2015) [-] Narcissism born through denial.
There are rare cases where those that go through supermutant mutations retain their intelligence and awareness or, even rarer, develop super-intelligence. For the average ogre that has gone through rapid dumbification, maybe the thought of "Hey, this isnt so bad, in fact, im better! Yeah! Those stupid normals dont know what they're missing" serves as a common mental defense mechanism against the shock that theyre now a sex-less, lip-less, hideous, green gargantuan. The way that some communities treat Supermutants, such as the Enclave, Brotherhood of Steel, and Legion, probably doesnt help. The antagonism born of prosecution from something that wasnt even your fault could be enough incentive for even the super-intelligent ones to adopt that whole Mutant Supremacy ideology, like that scalpless bastard in the first game that just waits around in Necropolis with his posse.
In the case of vault 87, the first set of people to be turned could have initially turned the rest, including the overseer and his guards, simply out of spite. Then, weighing in what their newfound fates were, the rest could have just fallen into line.
There are still exceptions, like Uncle Roy and Fawkes.
There are rare cases where those that go through supermutant mutations retain their intelligence and awareness or, even rarer, develop super-intelligence. For the average ogre that has gone through rapid dumbification, maybe the thought of "Hey, this isnt so bad, in fact, im better! Yeah! Those stupid normals dont know what they're missing" serves as a common mental defense mechanism against the shock that theyre now a sex-less, lip-less, hideous, green gargantuan. The way that some communities treat Supermutants, such as the Enclave, Brotherhood of Steel, and Legion, probably doesnt help. The antagonism born of prosecution from something that wasnt even your fault could be enough incentive for even the super-intelligent ones to adopt that whole Mutant Supremacy ideology, like that scalpless bastard in the first game that just waits around in Necropolis with his posse.
In the case of vault 87, the first set of people to be turned could have initially turned the rest, including the overseer and his guards, simply out of spite. Then, weighing in what their newfound fates were, the rest could have just fallen into line.
There are still exceptions, like Uncle Roy and Fawkes.
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thebluedream ONLINE (12/03/2015) [-] Why would the Enclave want to create super mutants? Did they have a better version of FEV or did they really think the mutant way is the right way
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mikhailovych (12/04/2015) [-] And every person in the wasteland because the template for the "survivor " genome was based off of an enclave scientist who has been isolated from radiation where as the rest of the wasteland who weren't vault dwellers/enclave have been exposed to radiation for the past 200 years or so
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nexdemise ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-]
Original FEV's purpose was to create super soldiers. After the bombs fell the Enclave found itself unable to launch its spaceship, either it wasn't finished, it was destroyed by the bombs, or for some other reason. FEV was never finished and would result in creating supermutants, extremely strong, but stupid and sterile (FEV sees sex cells as genetic damage since they only have half the genes, and eliminates them).
The enclave got its hands on a sample of FEV and spread it around the capital wasteland to see what it does exactly. Then they started their own experiments on captured vault dwellers and wastelanders to kill off anyone that was exposed to radiation. They'll actually give you a sample of the finished FEV to put into Project Purity, whether or not you do it - it's your call. As of FO4 the cannon choice is not, you can talk with I believe Danse about capital wasteland and he'll say that "the water is at least drinkable", meaning the Enclave's FEV wasn't inserted into it.
The enclave got its hands on a sample of FEV and spread it around the capital wasteland to see what it does exactly. Then they started their own experiments on captured vault dwellers and wastelanders to kill off anyone that was exposed to radiation. They'll actually give you a sample of the finished FEV to put into Project Purity, whether or not you do it - it's your call. As of FO4 the cannon choice is not, you can talk with I believe Danse about capital wasteland and he'll say that "the water is at least drinkable", meaning the Enclave's FEV wasn't inserted into it.
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inquisition (12/04/2015) [-] >"Westec" West Tek* Invents Power Armor to fight off Chinese invasion
>shows advanced power armour, deployed exclusively by the Enclave in 2220
>BoS stemmed from Enclave, when they actually stemmed from the US military stationed at Mariposa
>The Enclave expose Washington D.C. to FEV
>It was actually vault tec using vault 87
You SUCK and this is my face when calling out your ******** post
>shows advanced power armour, deployed exclusively by the Enclave in 2220
>BoS stemmed from Enclave, when they actually stemmed from the US military stationed at Mariposa
>The Enclave expose Washington D.C. to FEV
>It was actually vault tec using vault 87
You SUCK and this is my face when calling out your ******** post
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mrspi (12/04/2015) [-] Guys, watch the Storyteller series on YouTube if you like the Fallout lore!
Damn it is SO good and explains all the awesome hidden tid-bits you may have missed!
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7pGJQV-jlzD17YNNbt103xp0PkkUCoPU
Damn it is SO good and explains all the awesome hidden tid-bits you may have missed!
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7pGJQV-jlzD17YNNbt103xp0PkkUCoPU
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vvardenfell ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Excuse me guys, but as a Yuropean, I can't help but wonder, how's the rest of the world by the time of FO3/NV/4? I know that china is now but a gigantic crater, a huge "glow", as 'Murika gave them a thermonuclear spanking. How's yurop soing? How Africa?
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incrediblemrknew (12/04/2015) [-] Maybe a DLC will let us sail somewhere on the Yangze
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Greevon (12/04/2015) [-] That's one of the things I want to know as well.
Fallout's appeal is partly that the culture is distinctly 1950's America, so I doubt much is going to happen outside of the US border, but we can hope that maybe in a future game we get to see some of the rest of the world. Maybe an expedition into China, or somewhere in the British Isles. I'd expect that if it's ever brought into a game it would only be as an expansion pack. But even still, I'd love for them to include some fluff text or data terminal stories that talk about it. I understand US turned isolationist in this timeline, but SOMEONE should have talked about it by now.
Fallout's appeal is partly that the culture is distinctly 1950's America, so I doubt much is going to happen outside of the US border, but we can hope that maybe in a future game we get to see some of the rest of the world. Maybe an expedition into China, or somewhere in the British Isles. I'd expect that if it's ever brought into a game it would only be as an expansion pack. But even still, I'd love for them to include some fluff text or data terminal stories that talk about it. I understand US turned isolationist in this timeline, but SOMEONE should have talked about it by now.
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mrspi (12/04/2015) [-] The Fallout History cannot be surmised in a small post. It is so expansive and in depth it can take forever to find out everything...
Since I'm a lore junkie I've spent a year scouring with Wiki to know what I can and still am finding out more neat stuff.
Check out the Wiki and Fallout Bible if you like Fallout! It really makes you appreciate the series SO much more!!
Since I'm a lore junkie I've spent a year scouring with Wiki to know what I can and still am finding out more neat stuff.
Check out the Wiki and Fallout Bible if you like Fallout! It really makes you appreciate the series SO much more!!
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gilliam (12/04/2015) [-] I love how there's like all those 12 commonwealths that had to be assimilated form several states and be renamed appropriatly...
and then there's Texas.
and then there's Texas.
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profanitizer (12/04/2015) [-] Always found it funny that Texas doesn't change, It's still just Texas
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Minnesota (12/04/2015) [-] "Bottle caps used throughout the Wasteland."
Not quite. In FO2 people use gold tokens mined from Redding and used as a means of currency by people in NCR, New Reno, Vault City, and other nearby places.
"[The Enclave] wait for fallout to clear to recapture their facilities on the Wasteland"
That's a fairly PC way of describing 'shooting the **** out of non-Enclave people'.
"Westec develops Forced Evolution Virus to create first super mutant."
No. The purpose of FEV was to create super soldiers. While it did increase intelligence and strength, the added side effects like disfigured looks and sterility made it unfavorable, but the war caused further testing to halt. Although The Master found them to be quite useful to his cause, at least until he found out about the lack of reproduction capabilities.
There's just so many issues in this post. This doesn't even scratch the surface on Fallout lore.
Not quite. In FO2 people use gold tokens mined from Redding and used as a means of currency by people in NCR, New Reno, Vault City, and other nearby places.
"[The Enclave] wait for fallout to clear to recapture their facilities on the Wasteland"
That's a fairly PC way of describing 'shooting the **** out of non-Enclave people'.
"Westec develops Forced Evolution Virus to create first super mutant."
No. The purpose of FEV was to create super soldiers. While it did increase intelligence and strength, the added side effects like disfigured looks and sterility made it unfavorable, but the war caused further testing to halt. Although The Master found them to be quite useful to his cause, at least until he found out about the lack of reproduction capabilities.
There's just so many issues in this post. This doesn't even scratch the surface on Fallout lore.
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asotil (12/04/2015) [-] We still have no ******* clue what happened to China or Europe. For all we know they're fine and are just thinking we're an ocean now
Also Fallout in Canada would be sick. Rad Moose fighting Deathclaws
Also Fallout in Canada would be sick. Rad Moose fighting Deathclaws
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theflyingbiscuit (12/04/2015) [-] They had space travel and you think they wouldn't know what happened? Plus if you play the Mothership Zeta dlc in 3 you see the earth from space and it's all gone. China is just a giant glowing hole.
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iqequalzero (12/04/2015) [-] Giant glowing hole? What the **** ? How did they manage that?
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theflyingbiscuit (12/04/2015) [-] Well when you have a war that lasts only two hours that resulted in the end of the world; I'm pretty sure they just launched all their nukes at china.
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iqequalzero (12/04/2015) [-] Remember that one chan post that ended up with people arguing about nuclear coverage?
Apparently the entire US arsenal could only destroy like 5% of China.
Apparently the entire US arsenal could only destroy like 5% of China.
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theflyingbiscuit (12/04/2015) [-] No I never saw it. Were they arguing our nuclear arsenal in the 50's or fallout's arsenal in 2077? You have to remember they have shoulder mounted nuke launchers and a giant robot that throws nukes. I'm pretty sure they could take out China as easy as they did the US.
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theflyingbiscuit (12/04/2015) [-] The smallest nukes I mentioned were the fatman nukes. Liberty prime uses the same kind of nukes bombers used in 2077.
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thesovereigngrave (12/04/2015) [-] ...Liberty Prime doesn't destroy an entire city whenever he throws his bombs. Granted it's not as high up in the air so the damage would be lessened, but I still don't think they're actually full-sized nukes.
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timmylickens (12/04/2015) [-] I'm 99.99% sure he doesn't since you can be within 10 yards of him whenever he throws one. If he used an *actual* nuke, wouldn't he destroy himself, unless he can throw a considerable distance.
Unless Liberty Prime's nukes are different in Fallout 4, I haven't got to him in my game yet.
Unless Liberty Prime's nukes are different in Fallout 4, I haven't got to him in my game yet.
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theflyingbiscuit (12/05/2015) [-] In one of the missions for the brotherhood you have to go into the glowing sea to find nukes for liberty prime. Ingrid mentions that the nukes you need are the same that bombers used in the war.
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timmylickens (12/05/2015) [-] That's a bit weird, considering the nukes he uses don't kill everyone within a few miles. They're more like big-mini-nukes
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theflyingbiscuit (12/05/2015) [-] They probably didn't use liberty prime in china. I actually don't think the military was in china. If I remember correctly liberty prime was used in anchorage. But from what I found in falllout 4 there was a war on the moon so the probably had nukes they could drop from orbit.
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TheMather ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] The Enclave did not spread FEV in the Capital Wasteland. The scientists at Vault 87 accidentally did as the purpose of their vault was to further research the FEV, but then their subjects assumed control.
And the pathogen the Enclave wanted to spread in the Capital Wasteland through Project Purity was not the FEV, but rather a virus designed to kill anything whose DNA had been affected by radiation. Be they Ghouls or wastelanders.
And the pathogen the Enclave wanted to spread in the Capital Wasteland through Project Purity was not the FEV, but rather a virus designed to kill anything whose DNA had been affected by radiation. Be they Ghouls or wastelanders.
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thesovereigngrave (12/04/2015) [-] I believe it's actually stated that what the Enclave wanted to spread via Project Purity was a modified version of the FEV.
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ajperry (12/04/2015) [-] Gonna completely miss out Fallout 1 and 2 Canon are ya?
Yup ya are, nice.
Yup ya are, nice.
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oxidoferroso ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] This is wrong as many have pointed out and stupid. Why it's the Sole Survivor ******** there? Where is the other major plot points, like the Master, Oil Rig destruction, water purifier...?
I'm guessing this have been made by someone who has only played 3 and 4, and read a bit in the Internet about the rest
I'm guessing this have been made by someone who has only played 3 and 4, and read a bit in the Internet about the rest
