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teamrocketninja ONLINE (10/19/2015) [-] 
How so? It doesnt mention eggs or bunnies. The pronunciation is exactly as its spelled. There's no correlation to the Easter holiday. Literally the only true part is: Ishtar was a Babylonian fertility goddess.
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aisukurimu (10/20/2015) [-] Sumerian/Assyrian/Babylonian. She's in all of them. I believe she is even mentioned in Akkadian.
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theoldfritz (10/19/2015) [-] >egg
symbol of a dead body turning into life
>easter bunny
made in the 1950 as a marketing brand in the US
Istar is pronounced Innana, she was a goddes of fertility and sex, but also of war and peace, prostitution, lust, greed and wroth. She was the main godess in the ancient babylonian religion and later the main diety in the assyrian religion
Neither an egg nor a rabbit are her symbols, but Lions and a star (the planet Venus)
Do you know when her holyday was? In ******* OCTOBER, when venus is visible.
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symbol of a dead body turning into life
>easter bunny
made in the 1950 as a marketing brand in the US
Istar is pronounced Innana, she was a goddes of fertility and sex, but also of war and peace, prostitution, lust, greed and wroth. She was the main godess in the ancient babylonian religion and later the main diety in the assyrian religion
Neither an egg nor a rabbit are her symbols, but Lions and a star (the planet Venus)
Do you know when her holyday was? In ******* OCTOBER, when venus is visible.
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Heretics 0
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youregaylol (10/20/2015) [-] that would imply that you and 99% of funnyjunk would actually read the sources if they were posted instead of assuming they were credible by default, you illiterate *****
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internetnick (10/20/2015) [-]
Wait I'm confused. What does an egg have to do with a dead body turning into life?
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bigbuttjackson (10/19/2015) [-] What lets you get Innana from Istar? I wanna learn that language.
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lujan (10/20/2015) [-]
The earliest known mentioning of Ishtar comes from cuneiform script tablets I believe, which is a style of writing based on wedges and blocks, so a lot of vowels are implied, just like how God in Hebrew is YHWH and is interpreted as Yahweh, Jehovah, etc. It's tricky stuff that people will always argue about. But Ishtar is the way you would spell it based on the Akkadian spelling, and Inanna is based on the Sumerian. Sumer or Sumeria, depending on how you want to go about it, was the "first' civilization that the Akkadian based its style off of. I've seen a lot of conspiracy documentaries on Youtube at 3 am and they talk about the Annunaki and **** all the time.
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radioheadjam (10/19/2015) [-] This isn't true, and also it's a repost. From like 2 years ago. Easter is based on the pagan festival for their goddess of the heavens, Eostre.* Modern day Christians borrow most of the rituals from the Jewish tradition of Passover. The eggs have nothing to do with fertility and originated from the early Christians of Mesopatamia, "who stained eggs red in memory of the blood of Christ, shed at his crucifixion."*
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg
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dxniel (10/20/2015) [-]
You're right, but he's not wrong.
People from ancient Mesopotamia used to me polytheistic, believing in multiple gods. Due to the rise of Christianity friction ensued between people holding different religious beliefs. In an attempt to unify and pacify the people, emperor Constantine ordered a group of priests to reconcile the differences in beliefs, forming the council of Nicaea.
They tried to draw connections between different religious beliefs that weren't really there, tried to convert people to Christianity. But this was a very difficult thing to do, so they allowed pagan people to keep some of their traditions and holidays.
This explains why some "christian" celebrations seem so strange and out of place with what Christianity is supposed to be.
This isn't just the case for Easter, but Christmas as well, Halloween, new year celebrations, even birthdays, the "christian" cross, the teaching of the eternal soul, the teaching of hell, even the "christian" trinity. All these things have pagan origin and have absolutely no basis in biblical teachings, but were merged into Christianity, largely because of emperor Constantine's order for the council of Nicaea.
This is also why people like Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate holidays, because they typically originate from pagan religions and have nothing to do with the bible.
People from ancient Mesopotamia used to me polytheistic, believing in multiple gods. Due to the rise of Christianity friction ensued between people holding different religious beliefs. In an attempt to unify and pacify the people, emperor Constantine ordered a group of priests to reconcile the differences in beliefs, forming the council of Nicaea.
They tried to draw connections between different religious beliefs that weren't really there, tried to convert people to Christianity. But this was a very difficult thing to do, so they allowed pagan people to keep some of their traditions and holidays.
This explains why some "christian" celebrations seem so strange and out of place with what Christianity is supposed to be.
This isn't just the case for Easter, but Christmas as well, Halloween, new year celebrations, even birthdays, the "christian" cross, the teaching of the eternal soul, the teaching of hell, even the "christian" trinity. All these things have pagan origin and have absolutely no basis in biblical teachings, but were merged into Christianity, largely because of emperor Constantine's order for the council of Nicaea.
This is also why people like Jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate holidays, because they typically originate from pagan religions and have nothing to do with the bible.
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greekrascal (10/20/2015) [-] Considering that you can just view the sources at the bottom of the page and that most pages are locked and can't be edited, yes, yes I would.
I am aware that some pages are crap and some people edit in stupid **** .
I am aware that some pages are crap and some people edit in stupid **** .
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anon (10/20/2015) [-]
exactly, but it involves checking the source and not taking the wiki as truth. that was the point. there are primary, secondary and then tertiary sources and open sources like wikipedia are tertiary which means citing them is a quick way for educated people to disregard an opinion.
not trying to throw stones or call names. its important that information be treated with respect and intelligence for the benefit of all
not trying to throw stones or call names. its important that information be treated with respect and intelligence for the benefit of all
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shadowblaziard ONLINE (10/20/2015) [-] I dont know man, last few years wikipedia has been putting down their references, a lot of NCBI **** and other scientific places, fair to assume that's as legitamate as they come
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anon (10/19/2015) [-]
It certainly dates back to Eostre but also it can be traced further back to Istar. Here are 3 ************ sources, which is 3 more than you provided.
www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/origin-of-easter.htm
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism
www.history.com/topics/holidays/history-of-easter
www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/origin-of-easter.htm
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/apr/03/easter-pagan-symbolism
www.history.com/topics/holidays/history-of-easter
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darrenblackfox (10/19/2015) [-] To add on to what you said, pagan holidays were often adapted and changed by Christians to make conversion and transition easier for nonbelievers, hence the easter eggs and the christmas tree.
To OP: We know we didn't invent the egg and the bunny. The only ignorant one here is you and even what you thought you got right you still got wrong. Check your facts, even before reposting.
To OP: We know we didn't invent the egg and the bunny. The only ignorant one here is you and even what you thought you got right you still got wrong. Check your facts, even before reposting.
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Lashawndraniqua (10/19/2015) [-] ******** .
This is Ishtar …
Okay, great. So far things are fairly accurate. The relief pictured here, known as the Burney Relief (also called the Queen of the Night relief) is widely considered to be an Ancient Babylonian representation of Ishtar.
… pronounced Easter.
Actually, in modern English we pronounce it the way it looks. A case could be made for pronouncing it Eesh-tar, but I have yet to come across a credible source that gives the original pronunciation as Easter.
Ishtar was associated with fertility and sex. However, her symbols were the lion, the gate and the eight-pointed star; I can’t find any evidence of eggs or rabbits symbolically belonging to her. And Easter has nothing to do with her.
This is Ishtar …
Okay, great. So far things are fairly accurate. The relief pictured here, known as the Burney Relief (also called the Queen of the Night relief) is widely considered to be an Ancient Babylonian representation of Ishtar.
… pronounced Easter.
Actually, in modern English we pronounce it the way it looks. A case could be made for pronouncing it Eesh-tar, but I have yet to come across a credible source that gives the original pronunciation as Easter.
Ishtar was associated with fertility and sex. However, her symbols were the lion, the gate and the eight-pointed star; I can’t find any evidence of eggs or rabbits symbolically belonging to her. And Easter has nothing to do with her.
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spartantoaster (10/19/2015) [-] Down voting because the people who aren't full of **** have provided sources
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zourch (10/20/2015) [-] Wow this was the most condescending, presumptuous, patronizing, cunt-sounding
post I've seen all day.
I don't think anyone associates bunnies and eggs with the resurrection.
So to just blatantly assume that makes you sound like a total ******** .
And apparently this is all ******** anyway, so you're exactly as big of a cunt as we all imagined you are.
post I've seen all day.
I don't think anyone associates bunnies and eggs with the resurrection.
So to just blatantly assume that makes you sound like a total ******** .
And apparently this is all ******** anyway, so you're exactly as big of a cunt as we all imagined you are.
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internetnick (10/20/2015) [-]
Well one of the highly upvoted posts later said that eggs are for the resurrection, so you're wrong there.
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belikea (10/20/2015) [-] It suddenly makes sense. Ishtar's symbol was Venus. The Ishtar academy is on Venus. What is venus? A planet. How are the planets represented in some illustrations? A line. Now stay with me here, it gets weird. What do Titans do to close range enemies on Venus? They punch. And what do I not have? A punch-line!!!
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shleker ONLINE (10/19/2015) [-] Th'ats complete ******** . The early Christians and latin states use a term derivated from pascha, a jewish feast. The term Esater only exists in English, and some germanic/slavic languages, countries which were converted to christianism during late roman period and midle-age , centuries appart from babylon.
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silvanyis (10/19/2015) [-] Actually, Easter was derived from Ostara, the March/Vernal/Northward Equinox.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_the_Year#Vernal_equinox
The goddess that this holiday was named for.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_the_Year#Vernal_equinox
The goddess that this holiday was named for.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre
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ygdosst (10/19/2015) [-] What does hating the truth have to do with realizing that the change of Pagan Ceremonies to Christian contexts are actions of Catholic politics and have nothing to to do with wether or not the Judeo-Christian God exists, or if Jesus was magic? That IS the truth.
This is also incredibly hypocritical, being written in the same vein of "Like if you love Jesus, keep scrolling if you love the Devil" Facebook *********** .
Not only that but it straight up has it's facts wrong as the god in context was ******* Eostre and not Ishtar.
Holy **** OP, where did you get this from? r/Atheism?
I see plenty of atheists portraying hedonism as some objective truth, and it confuses me greatly, given that damn near literally everything in human history, philosophy, and mythology points torwards the idea that hedonism is more destructive to science, study, and society, than any religion. Inanna/Ishtar was regarded a more malicious and horrible god than the Ereshkigal, the goddess of death. The entire Greecian concept of Centaurs was about warring against your own animalistic insticts for the good of society.
On what grounds was the Catholic Church wrong from trying to prevent pagans and druids from engaging in beastial rituals?
This is also incredibly hypocritical, being written in the same vein of "Like if you love Jesus, keep scrolling if you love the Devil" Facebook *********** .
Not only that but it straight up has it's facts wrong as the god in context was ******* Eostre and not Ishtar.
Holy **** OP, where did you get this from? r/Atheism?
I see plenty of atheists portraying hedonism as some objective truth, and it confuses me greatly, given that damn near literally everything in human history, philosophy, and mythology points torwards the idea that hedonism is more destructive to science, study, and society, than any religion. Inanna/Ishtar was regarded a more malicious and horrible god than the Ereshkigal, the goddess of death. The entire Greecian concept of Centaurs was about warring against your own animalistic insticts for the good of society.
On what grounds was the Catholic Church wrong from trying to prevent pagans and druids from engaging in beastial rituals?
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trickytrickster (10/20/2015) [-]
Oh good Lord...this ******** picture again? First off, eggs and bunnies are not a part of the religious Easter celebration, and only turned into that during the commercialization of the holiday by secular society. Easter almost always follows the lunar schedule of the Jewish holiday of Passover, since Jesus died at the end of Passover. There was a big debate in 325 about making Easter always follow Passover and potentially be during the week, or always make it a Sunday, so they picked Sunday. Also...Easter is only Easter in English. During the reign of Constantine, he spoke Greek. The Greek word for easter (and like every language in some form) is Pascha, which is based off the Aramaic word for Passover. So I don't know how Constantine could pick a word that wasn't first used till 500 years after his death (800s). That's actually quite impressive. Easter actually is believed to possibly be a mistranslation of "white week", which is another way they referring to Easter over a thousand years ago. That got mistranslated into shining dawn in english, and then they used the german word for dawn, eosterun. This is supported by very old English translated Bibles substituting the word easter for passover.
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BraindeadBuddha (10/20/2015) [-] I'm not trying argue with your point, I think you're right about it being a ******** picture, but allow me to play devils advocate:
Constantine the Great probably spoke Latin most of the time wouldn't you think? Since he was a Roman emperor and all (The name of easter is still Pascha in Latin Paskha in Greek of course so it matters little, interestingly some places like in Denmark Easter's called "Påske" which is definitely a derivative of the Latin.) And he almost certainly could have known the name of Ishtar, and other Mesopotamian deities, the learned among the ancient Romans and Greeks had a surprising wealth of knowledge at their disposal. Of course he didn't actually "Christianize" the empire, he only made it legal to be Christian along with all other "cults" and stopped the persecutions.
Also, about "Easter" as far as I've found out; many people seem to believe it's derived from "Eostre", or Ostdra, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, to whom the month answering to our April, and called Eostur-monath, was dedicated. So Easter is Easter because it's the month of Easter. The celebration of Christ itself occurs during passover of course, it's through time the switch was made.
So yeah, I'm not 100% sure which explanation is the right one, do you have a good reliable source for yours? Mine is just something oft-cited.
Constantine the Great probably spoke Latin most of the time wouldn't you think? Since he was a Roman emperor and all (The name of easter is still Pascha in Latin Paskha in Greek of course so it matters little, interestingly some places like in Denmark Easter's called "Påske" which is definitely a derivative of the Latin.) And he almost certainly could have known the name of Ishtar, and other Mesopotamian deities, the learned among the ancient Romans and Greeks had a surprising wealth of knowledge at their disposal. Of course he didn't actually "Christianize" the empire, he only made it legal to be Christian along with all other "cults" and stopped the persecutions.
Also, about "Easter" as far as I've found out; many people seem to believe it's derived from "Eostre", or Ostdra, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, to whom the month answering to our April, and called Eostur-monath, was dedicated. So Easter is Easter because it's the month of Easter. The celebration of Christ itself occurs during passover of course, it's through time the switch was made.
So yeah, I'm not 100% sure which explanation is the right one, do you have a good reliable source for yours? Mine is just something oft-cited.
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marioauditore (10/20/2015) [-]
Too bad the romans never used the word Easter. Ever. The root of the word easter is only found in germanic languages. And not even in all of them. The romans called it "pasqua". The anglo-saxons simply used the name of the pagan holiday that they celebrated during the same period. It made sense because the spring equinox is a simbol of rebirth and renovation in most cultures.
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teevee (10/20/2015) [-] "some cultures combine and leave behind influences in society today"
"haha stupid christfags jesus isnt real go ahead and downvote me u mad bro??"
"haha stupid christfags jesus isnt real go ahead and downvote me u mad bro??"
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BraindeadBuddha (10/20/2015) [-] Oh wow, what an incredible surprise, next what? You'll tell me Jesus wasn't really born on Christmas!? That the Kaba was originally worshipped as one of many gods by the Arabian tribes? That the Buddha wasn't considered a deity before Buddhism reached China? Are you trying to tell me that religious belief and practice change with the culture religions are set in???! That's preposterous!
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BraindeadBuddha (10/20/2015) [-] How can people believe? I'm not sure there's an easy answer to that.
I will however say, Religion is about much more than just believing or faith itself. For many belief helps them deal with the world around them something to help you relax amidst the chaotic uncertainty of existence, help you be part of a group, some find their perspective on life through religion, which let's be honest is more about your family passing values they think are important down to their children through stories, which has been happening since time immemorial.
So yeah, I don't find it surprising at all that people have belief, and cling to said belief, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone has the energy to question everything about their lives and are content leaving it be. Ignorance is pretty blissful and all that, y'know?
I will however say, Religion is about much more than just believing or faith itself. For many belief helps them deal with the world around them something to help you relax amidst the chaotic uncertainty of existence, help you be part of a group, some find their perspective on life through religion, which let's be honest is more about your family passing values they think are important down to their children through stories, which has been happening since time immemorial.
So yeah, I don't find it surprising at all that people have belief, and cling to said belief, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone has the energy to question everything about their lives and are content leaving it be. Ignorance is pretty blissful and all that, y'know?
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BraindeadBuddha (10/20/2015) [-] Oh, well that wasn't my intention at all, but I can see how my message could easily be misconstrued that way, willful ignorance about certain things is not necessarily bad. I merely meant it in a sense that if you don't care about where your values and outlook come from as long as they make you happy, then I can understand not caring about whether or not your beliefs in virginbirths etc. make much sense to others.
And no studies have definitively shown that faith has an adverse effect on IQ etc. So it would also just be wrong of me to imply such, just scientifically speaking.
And no studies have definitively shown that faith has an adverse effect on IQ etc. So it would also just be wrong of me to imply such, just scientifically speaking.
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estranged (10/19/2015) [-] Thumbed for the truth. Because the truth on the internet is hard to find.
oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/inanaitar/
oracc.museum.upenn.edu/amgg/listofdeities/inanaitar/
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anon (10/19/2015) [-]
The church did this to try and obscure the original holiday on moral grounds. Similarly, that's why Christmas in on Dec 25 and why we have a Christmas tree. The original holiday was a pagan holiday
