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Eal: l Squilliam F. Buckle Jr. (17' Kla, 220x326)
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Ne suddenly had quite a sad realization, /pol/.
ychan, and this board in general, has always tried to be controversial, to apprise
menial news, to push the limits, to be edgy. It has always challenged
mainstream notions in politics. Now, this dark and lowly part tithe internet has
some to support family, God, chivalry, tradition, and pride in she' s heritage.
What a sad and dark world we live in where moral degeneracy is so rampant
that supporting these things is actually now edgy and controversial.
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User avatar #1 - chaosraptor (01/04/2016) [-]
thumbed up before lotengo's stalker anon thumbs it down
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#2 to #1 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
Please dont thumb up the political cancer ruining this site lately just because you like the taste of OPs balls
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User avatar #3 to #2 - chaosraptor (01/04/2016) [-]
hush little anonfag
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#15 to #3 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
i just imagined you sounding so gentle right now
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User avatar #16 to #15 - chaosraptor (01/04/2016) [-]
yeah i think some of these salty anons just need a ******* hug now and then
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#127 to #23 - tapeboy (01/05/2016) [-]
yeb is such a sad strange little man.
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#163 to #127 - duudegladiator (01/05/2016) [-]
here ya go.
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User avatar #168 to #127 - inzix (01/05/2016) [-]
If i could manage to make someone vote for me to become president of the US, damn son they would get a hug. Inzix for President 2016, Make America Greater Again!
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User avatar #188 to #168 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
**lotengo hugs you from an unknown distance**
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#151 to #127 - fullfrontal ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
but hey with better things to do i dont blame him
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User avatar #210 to #16 - talldumbdork (01/05/2016) [-]
I want a ******* hug chaosraptor minus the hug bb
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#217 to #210 - chaosraptor (01/05/2016) [-]
i know what you want
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#18 to #3 - smartythechicken (01/04/2016) [-]
"hush, little anonfag" said the chaosraptor, as he gently stroke his finger along anons faceless cheek.
the anon jumped happily towards chaosraptor, and hugged his leg in pure happiness.
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User avatar #95 to #18 - tsnkami ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
Misread as hump, have fun with that thought.
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User avatar #29 to #2 - djmaryhikineet (01/04/2016) [-]
Actively hating something is more cancerous to fj then the most content itself, we are 4chan but worse at keeping people b/c people can't tolerate anything so they block everything just like people on tumblr. But unlike tumblr we don't pander in a way that make people want to stay and more push out anyone who can't take it any more b/c it's so frequent that people will target someone if they hate them enough.
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#209 to #2 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Holy ******* **** . You just ******* proven OPs post. We Anons supposed to be the moral degenerates of FJ, shouting idiotic stuff, going against political correctness and mainstream media **** when aluminum hat conspiracies here and there.

Now you come along and cock it up by trying to be politically correct.

The balance has been disturbed...
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User avatar #201 to #2 - Sexysammich (01/05/2016) [-]
Shut up Meg
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#142 to #1 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Fag
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#36 to #1 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
lotengo did something to offend me, but i no longer remember what
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User avatar #37 to #36 - chaosraptor (01/04/2016) [-]
and so youre hating on him just out of routine?
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#138 to #37 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
No, but he still has me blocked and I remember that I'm supposed to not like him.

I vaguely remember calling him out for something and him being a little bitch about it. Unless that was someone else, but I can't remember anyone else who blocked me.
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#152 to #138 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Hey, he blocked me too, because I called him out on his comment thumbwhoring.
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User avatar #149 to #138 - chaosraptor (01/05/2016) [-]
whats your name
ill see if hes up to unblock you and sort this **** out
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User avatar #164 to #149 - neokun ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
Jerry Springer over here.
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User avatar #166 to #164 - chaosraptor (01/05/2016) [-]
is his show the one with all the fights?

hell if i was springer id be going all WWE referee tryingto make lotengo and anon fight to the death
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User avatar #169 to #37 - markipliergame (01/05/2016) [-]
were we not just talking about you abusing the system in the exact same way? lmao
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User avatar #170 to #169 - chaosraptor (01/05/2016) [-]
i do it now and then but i dont stalk the same person all day every day for months

lotengos stalker is a nutjob
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User avatar #148 to #36 - shyyguy (01/05/2016) [-]
Probably deleted an anime picture or something stupid like that.
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#35 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
You should not support "family". You should not support "God", or "chivalry", or "tradition" or "heritage".

You should support what and who you like. You should love your mum because of who she is, not because she is your mum. You should love God because, **** , it's your religion. You should treat people nicely because you don't want them to be hurt, not because of some romantic view of a code of ethics knights didn't even bother with. You should do things because you think they are good ideas, not because others did them before you (and you should always evaluate them, never accept them blindly). You should like the past because of what it contains, not because it is your heritage.
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User avatar #42 to #35 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Believing in god is not just about going to church, to shall not steal etc.
Western society is build on judeo-christian values. Diligence and efficiency are judeo-christian values.


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#44 to #42 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Diligence and efficiency are values everywhere.

Christianity is distinguished by its focus on the spiritual. It is not the physical body that matters, but the mind (that is what goes to heaven); and so it is not the pleasures of the flesh that matter (as the flesh will soon be rotting, while the soul lasts forever) but the pleasures of the mind.

But I admit I don't really have a response to that one. If you wanna have a God, go for it.
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User avatar #46 to #44 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
>Diligence and efficiency are values everywhere.

nope, its judeo-christian values.
Why do you think Africa never manged to crawl out of the stone age without the Europeans?
Arabs dont work, arabs never work vid related
Why the Arabs are being humiliated in the world
The asians have reached great heights.
But even tho we Europeans are a small percentage of the global population, we represent the biggest part of the advancements in almost every field.
Why do you think that is?
A: Is it genetics? Are Europeans the masterrace?
B: Sheer luck? Really, its an option but i doubt it.
C: Our culture and values? is it our values that inspire us?

I'm gonna go with C
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#54 to #46 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
>nope, its judeo-christian values.
Nope, it's everywhere. What, do you think Jews and Christians are the only guys that think diligence and efficiency are good?

Africa did get out of the stone age, and in fact has been Christian for longer than Europe. But you probably meant sub-Saharan Africa; in which case there's a longer explanation for that in the spoiler: Sub Saharan Africa has ****** weather. Unpredictable, see, and prone to long droughts. This does not encourage sedentary farming, and especially doesn't encourage large cities that rely on huge amounts of farming. You do still get them (Ashanti, Mali, Ethiopia) but they are rare, and often fall apart when the famines come.

How did Muslims build huge empires if they didn't work? And how come the Quran says this: "Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities." (4:29) and "Waste not by excess: for God loves not the wasters." (6:141) if it doesn't value efficiency?

Asians reached great heights all the time. China, son. It's pretty much always been the most populous and richest nation on Earth. It's even the second most powerful nation right now. And Mongols got **** done. Turks too. Indians have accomplished ******* tonnes of **** , even if that's often literal.

There's a D, by the way. Geography. See, east Asia (i.e. China) is pretty much the best place to live. It's verdant as **** , lots of resources, basically one piece of flat land, no criss-crossing mountains, plenty of rice. But it's too good. The open spaces without mountains leads to vast empires that, once reaching the mountains, no longer has any reason to expand further. They've already got so much ******* stuff they don't need anyone else. So they stagnate.

But Europe? Europe is second best. Reliable weather, quite a lot of resources, and crucially -- lots of criss crossing mountains. Europe never has enough resources to just sit on itself, but it has enough to be stable and to advance. The mountains prevent large states from forming (Rome being the only time Europe has been united for more than a decade), ensuring there is constant competition between states. This in itself pushed Portugal and Spain to explore the east and west, to try and exploit them and gain an edge over their enemies.
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#125 to #54 - gider (01/05/2016) [-]
africans also managed to make empires/ kingdoms to a certain extent (it was mostly because of the muslims), like songhai, mali, etc.

but africans themselves did poorly if it wasn't for the muslims. there were contact between the arabs and africans (as in, sub-saharans), hell even vikings managed to establish contact with them to a lesser degree, so there was exchange between cultures to a certain degree, and the africans eventually adopted islam because of the muslims.

the nile stetches pretty far into africa, yet there weren't many civilizations along it other than egypt and nubia (but i think nubia was a part of egypt at the time). but i do admit that it's a lot of jungle in it's southermost parts. but latin america had alot of jungle, yet their civilizations were pretty advanced, despite them being pretty isloated from other cultures and civilizations (other than the cultures you could already find in latin america, like the aztecs or mayans)

europe in comparison isn't all that good tbh. the alps/ carpathians/ urals/ anatolian plateu do isolate europe from the rest of the world quite a bit, slowing down cultural exchange. and btw, europe wasn't just a huge farmland, germany was just a huge forest, the lowlands were pretty much just swamps, scandinavia and russia was a frozen wasteland and britain was a huge island before christianity came (not making connections between christianity and civilization, just to give a more general view on when civilization really took off in europe). the whole vast empire argument can also be applied to rome, and europeans had begun snowballing when it fell in 1453 (although it was severly weakened compared to it centuries earlier)

also, china/ asia in general wasn't exactly stable nations. japan was divided by smaller states who constantly fought eachother, while china were split up into several warring states at times. besides, the mandate of heaven sorta guaranteed china to have competent rulers, while rome often had ******* insane rulers, like nero.

i'd argue that one of the reasons for why muslims did so good was because of very competent rulers, and not just islam. the early caliphs managed to ensure that the other religions in the caliphate was kept under control, making free trade easier, and generally were genius administrators/ generals (specifically aiming at caliph umar).


pic unrelated, i just think jihadi lolis are adorable

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User avatar #56 to #54 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
>>#53,
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#60 to #56 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
That applies to about 10% of my post.
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User avatar #216 to #54 - lieutenantderp (01/05/2016) [-]
The Franks had a very sizable kingdom after the Romans, but like Rome it also became divided and eventually collapsed. I would argue that the lack of large states in Europe is not because of terrain but rather a tradition that carried over from Germanic tribal confederacies, in which smaller chieftains instead of a king would rule. That system eventually developed into feudalism.
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User avatar #215 to #54 - lieutenantderp (01/05/2016) [-]
Compared to both Europe and Asia, the Americas had much better climates and terrains for farming. Also, neither Europe nor Asia had the nutritious foods (potatoes, corn, and tomatoes, just to name a few) found in abundance in the Americas. By your logic, the most advanced of civilizations would have grown there, yet no Native-American civilizations were even close in reaching the level of advancement compared to their European and Asian counterparts.
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User avatar #213 to #54 - lieutenantderp (01/05/2016) [-]
>It's verdant as **** , lots of resources, basically one piece of flat land, no criss-crossing mountains, plenty of rice

Nope; if you look at the map of modern China, only the eastern parts bordering the sea was fertile enough for civilization to develop. And even then a great amount of those lands used to be covered by vast forests, similar to those in Europe. But unlike in Europe, in China many metallic resources such as iron and gold were always in short supply (notice the obvious difference between Chinese and European armor and weaponry during the old times). By the fertile east coast was where the first Chinese civilizations were located, and they never really expanded westward, as there were nothing but uninhabitable deserts. After the Mongol Conquest, the Chinese effectively became slaves under the Mongols, and many would argue that the "real" Chinese civilization had been lost since then.

The lack of outward expansion made the Chinese civilization very isolationist, which, alongside nomadic incursions from the north and the growth of a massive and corrupt bureaucratic system that prohibited innovation, was the primary reason for China's eventual downfall, not the "abundance of food and resources". A civilization cannot progress without peril, and if China was truly self-sufficient to such a degree, it would never have achieved it's former glory.
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User avatar #212 to #54 - lieutenantderp (01/05/2016) [-]
Nope, food had always been in abundance in Sub-Saharan Africa, which explains why most people there (primarily Bushmen, before others such as the Zulus invaded) never established advanced civilizations. There simply wasn't a need, and progress was all but halted.
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User avatar #189 to #54 - cgcfourtwenty (01/05/2016) [-]
You know, surprisingly for someone with the username hongkonglongdong, you certainly are an intelligent person with a very impressive understanding of our world, your point on why China stagnates but Europe lacks this option is very interesting, and not something I've heard before, Good job man, always nice to see intelligent discussion on this site, Thumbs for you. (Y)
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User avatar #52 to #46 - theruinedsage (01/04/2016) [-]
I'm gonna go with "living in a jungle kills off any population large enough eventually" and "Desert makes it hard to make large cities".

Most of Europe is temperate, and rather lush. The black plague was the worst plague that happened to Europe, and it was practically the sniffles compared to what happened elsewhere.

After that, we just happened to be the first ones to ignore tradition long enough to create decent weapons. The weapons race between France and England probably helped too.
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User avatar #53 to #52 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
>"living in a jungle kills off any population large enough eventually"
Africa is a lot easier to survive in than Europe.

Africa is warm all year around. Europe, especialy thousands of years ago, so you cant do agriculture the entire time, you can do that in Africa. So in Europe, you gotta plan ahead so you dont starve in the winter.
Europe demands good houses so you can survive blizzards. Africa has storms but nothing as bad as blizzards.
So no, Africa is easier to build a society. And dont pull that jungle crap on me. Europe had wild anials but we domesticated them.

>"Desert makes it hard to make large cities"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertile_Crescent
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#59 to #53 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Africa is **** for agriculture. It is often too warm, or rather too dry. You never heard of droughts?

The trouble with jungles is not the wild animals. It is the jungle. The same problem with Russia having huge forests.

>The Fertile Crescent (also known as the Cradle of Civilization) is a crescent-shaped region containing the comparatively moist and fertile land of otherwise arid and semi-arid Western Asia, the Nile Valley and Nile Delta.

You should read that article on the fertile crescent yourself. People lived only on the coast and by the river exactly because any further and they'd be in the desert. Hence, crescent. And fertile.

So no, Africa is not easier to live in than Europe.
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#63 to #59 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Agriculture is a thing, there is no excuse.
Also, look at all the green in Africa, its not all desert
The cresent was a reference to the middle east
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#65 to #63 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Agriculture is not possible on a large and sustained scale with pre-modern technology in much of sub-Saharan Africa.

I'm not referring to desert when I say drought.

Your fertile crescent point remains wrong.
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User avatar #67 to #65 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
People in Zimbwabwe did fine till Mugabe kicked all dem honkeys out and ruined the entire continent
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#69 to #67 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Did you catch the bit where I said "pre modern"?
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User avatar #73 to #69 - theruinedsage (01/04/2016) [-]
We should stop arguing with him. If you're stupid enough to think "green equals farmlands" and "look this fertile area is in the desert, that must mean desert are great places for cities" you don't really respond to logic.
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User avatar #72 to #69 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
You still havent given me a reason why it would not be possible.
You got fertile land, and your droughts are not in all of Africa/irrigration is a thing.
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#75 to #72 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
I have. Weather. "Green" does not equal "good for agriculture". Otherwise we'd have giant farms all over Siberia.

Irrigation was in fact used.

But it's hard to get started on tech when everyone's focused on moving around rather than getting other people to make food for them so they can think. That said, it did happen. A Dutch explorer said this of one African city:

>The king's palace or court is a square, and is as large as the town of Haarlem and entirely surrounded by a special wall, like that which encircles the town. It is divided into many magnificent palaces, houses, and apartments of the courtiers, and comprises beautiful and long square galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam, but one larger than another, resting on wooden pillars, from top to bottom covered with cast copper, on which are engraved the pictures of their war exploits and battles...
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User avatar #78 to #75 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
That citation is from after European conolisation.
I'd love to discuss the matter further, but i gotta go.
Thumbs up for not stooping to a lvl of namecalling just because we dont see eye to eye. Rare thing to find online
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#79 to #78 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Benin was never colonised. It was only annexed well after the citation.
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User avatar #190 to #79 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
But there was already contact between the Europeans and their people at that point, probably the muzzies to.
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#116 to #78 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
Jesus Christ, I've never seen someone so consistently wrong and stupid in such quick succession.

Just shut the **** up. Pretty please?
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User avatar #186 to #116 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
You're not evn part of the discussion ****** .
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User avatar #64 to #53 - theruinedsage (01/04/2016) [-]
First of all, I want you to look at that map you linked. Now I want you to think real, REAL head about the difference between that and most of the Sahara. If you can't see the difference, you're a moron. Hint: it's rivers. Floodplains are some of the most fertile farmlands in the world, and most of the Sahara doesn't have that

Yeah, Europe had wild animals, but nothing worse than wolves and bears.

Africa literally have tens of animals worse than that all over. Not to mention the sheer amount of mosquitoes, that are plague bearers. So we domesticated cows and swine, big woop, guess where they invented that.

Sure, Northern Europe needed houses for the winter, but southern Europe didn't and that where most of our culture comes from.

And I'm pretty sure several month long droughts are worse than blizzards. You can just build a house to survive a blizzard, you can't really build your way out of a drought.
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#61 to #52 - skebaba (01/04/2016) [-]
The plague did more good than bad, tho. #Notallplagues
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User avatar #68 to #61 - theruinedsage (01/04/2016) [-]
True, but you reach a point where it doesn't make society get rid of overpopulation, but instead makes it collapse. Look up the plague that happened to the Indians before Europeans arrived in America.
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User avatar #88 to #46 - theism ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
You have a very strange conception of world history.
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User avatar #86 to #42 - theism ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
Western civilization is based far more on greco-roman philosophy than judaeo-christian values.
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User avatar #193 to #86 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
There is an entire book that connects western succes and judeo-christian values.
Well written, cant remember the title.

Dammit, ill get back to you on it
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User avatar #194 to #193 - theism ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
There are entire books written about shapeshifting lizards that secretly rule the world.
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User avatar #195 to #194 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
You got a point there.
Maybe greco-roman philosophy and judeao-christian values overlap?
I dont know enough about greco-roman philosophy to know if that is true or not.
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User avatar #196 to #195 - theism ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
IMO judaeo christian values don't link with ideas like democracy or egalitarian societies. Many of the major developments in Western civilization have been fairly contrary to Christianity.
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User avatar #48 to #42 - theruinedsage (01/04/2016) [-]
No, those are universal values.
If you want those values, go ahead, but don't force religious teachings down on me using that as a pretense.
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User avatar #51 to #48 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Those are NOT universal values.
You might want it to be but they are not.
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User avatar #92 to #42 - Ruspanic (01/04/2016) [-]
You do not have to be a Jew or a Christian to hold what you call Judeo-Christian values. Diligence and efficiency do not require belief in God, therefore they are secular values that Christianity happens to endorse.
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User avatar #240 to #42 - Pompano (01/07/2016) [-]
Christianity does not own those values. They existed long before Christianity and they'll be around long after.
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#185 to #35 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
now you are just being a dweebus maximus.u
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#147 to #35 - swedishassassin (01/05/2016) [-]
And that is the attitude that got us to where we our.

By destroying the idea of a community and serving a greater machine than yourself, you've destroyed your importance. Ironic as it sounds, by becoming a seemingly insignificant part of a greater thing, you've become more noteworthy.

Look at Asianic societies. They've been skyrocketing to eventually surpass us because they're not stuck on their individuality like we've developed recently.
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User avatar #242 to #147 - Truth (01/09/2016) [-]
On Asian societies surpassing us...
They surpassed us? Maybe because they were a step ahead of us and understood all that needed to be learned from individuality - that every single being has a respectable and usable complex of mind and body (which is constantly working on, or which oneself is able to use to work on: perceiving surroundings; knowing self-needs; knowing what one's self is; social interactions; intimate human interactions; placement in society; and etc.) which should be considered, then its aspects either controlled, or .... Anyways, as I was saying, Asian societies perhaps have already went on to understand individuality, like 'we' should, and with that they proceeded to integrate parts of each individual (rather than resist and split into groups) for a common purpose?
But I doubt that's what they've done. I more believe that they mostly ignored individuality and drifted straight toward a 'hive-mind'. I guess I have to ask what you meant when you said "surpassing us".
And these are just thoughts for what you said, they lingered when I first saw your post. I know your comment is like 3 days old.
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User avatar #81 to #35 - feelythefeel (01/04/2016) [-]
What if I like family, god, chivalry, tradition and heritage?
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#83 to #81 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Then you like things that do not exist. People exist. Chivalry does not. Do not be merciful to people because you want to follow the immaterial concept of chivalry; be merciful to them because you do not want to see them hurt. Don't let the idea take hold of you; don't let the idea become the ends rather than the means.
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User avatar #84 to #83 - feelythefeel (01/04/2016) [-]
>family doesn't exist
>god doesn't exist
>tradition doesn't exist
>heritage doesn't exist
Is your nose big because air is free, Oyveyburg san?
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#87 to #84 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Family is not a thing you can touch. It is just an idea that you can hold in your head. That's what I meant. Not that people do not have families.
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User avatar #89 to #87 - feelythefeel (01/04/2016) [-]
Just because a concept isn't physical doesn't make it unimportant.
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#91 to #89 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
I disagree.

Let me put it this way. You care about "family". But why? Because you believe it benefits those in the family, I presume. In which case why are you caring about "family" rather than the specific people in the family? You are inserting an irrelevant middle-man to your ideals, and worse; letting it take hold of you. You will work to preserve the family rather than this family (or better; these people in this family). What was previously a means will instead become an ends.

I keep quoting "family" to differentiate it from an actual, specific family, by the way. I'm not trying to scarequote or something.
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User avatar #105 to #91 - feelythefeel (01/04/2016) [-]
I care about my own family in the personal sense and about preserving the family in the political sense. Nobody cares about every family personally, it's impossible.
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User avatar #90 - theism ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
That is a very skewed perspective of what pol represents.
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#104 - lamarsmithgot (01/04/2016) [-]
>family, god, chivalry, tradition, and pride on one's heritage

thats adorable
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#82 - chokebee (01/04/2016) [-]
For freedom?
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#24 - BraindeadBuddha (01/04/2016) [-]
>family
implying most people on /pol/ aren't probably shunned by their families
>God
Many on /pol/ are atheists
>"Tradition"
No gay marriage? No interracial relations?
>Pride in heritage
Unless you have the wrong heritage, of course.

99% of people on /pol/ are moral degenerates who speak of purity and **** , but just like the rest of us sit and fap to traps, furries, or some other **** like that. I find it laughable that /pol/ tries to take a moral highroad on anything.
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#25 to #24 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
I'm white and I want blacks and muslims to be proud of their heritage, just in their own ******* countries.
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User avatar #26 to #25 - BraindeadBuddha (01/04/2016) [-]
"Their own ******* countries" gonna kick out African Americans?
What about Italian Americans? Irish Americans? etc.
Migration and movement of populations have been a reality since the dawn of mankind, there's nothing that can stop it in the globalized world, it's too bad if you hate it, nothing's going to change it.
Having pride in your heritage is retarded in any case, the actions you do in your lifetime is the only thing that should make you proud. Sure, love your country, love your birthplace for all it has given you, but having pride in something you had absolutely 100% nothing to do with is dumb as **** .
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#32 to #26 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
muslim immigrants in Europe cling to their own culture, waving around their flags at sporting events even tho they came out of ********* that no sane person wants to be in.
But they still show pride in their country and culture.

Why cant i?
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#40 to #32 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
I have always wondered something. Why would you be any more proud of what your country did than what another country did? They are all not you in both cases.
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#107 to #40 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
because his country is a part of who he is, that's pretty much what nationalism is. being proud of a country that you have nothing to do with is illogical, but his own country is his home. for example, i'm norwegian and live in norway. why does it sound so dumb that i'm proud of what norway and her people have done?
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#55 to #40 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
True, but as humans we have always been social and always want to have a feeling of belonging. Maybe feeling ''proud'' of one's country for whatever reason may be because it fills the need of apartenance for some? Personally, I think there is nothing wrong with being proud of how your country is doing, unless you start projecting how well your country is doing to your own personal self-worth.
I mean, without it, we might as well scrap the Olympics/sports team. Why should we watch those? They're not us. Sure, I can admire their hard work, but why should I care that much about other people anyway if it weren't to feel some ''proudness''?
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User avatar #50 to #40 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
>>#43,

Also, i'm not just proud of my Dutch heritage. I also have great respect for the British, the Italians, the French etc.

Europe has so many beautiful cultures in a small space, together, but still isolated from each other. And THAT is how multiculturalism should be. Not forcing all the cultures to mix, because that comes out ****** .

I like Chinese food, Dutch food, Italian food, Mexican food, i dont evn mind a kebab once in a while. But for the love of god dont serve em all together. It destroys all the flavors
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#62 to #50 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
European cultures are the opposite of isolated. It's not even possible for them to be isolated. Look at China and Japan; they tried to be isolated...and they failed. And they also ruined their countries in the process.

Your food thing doesn't make any sense. All of those foods are fusions of other foods. Speaking of which, fusion restaurants are very popular.
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User avatar #66 to #62 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Isolated was a poor choice of words, i mean they live next to each other, but they dont literally live inside each other.

That is why Amsterdam, Athens, Florence, Berlin and Londen are beautiful city's and not ************ of multi culti buildings
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#70 to #66 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Beauty is not real, in that it is subjective.

All cities are multi cultural. They would not be cities otherwise, because cities are where lots of people trade, and so bring in their own ideas and norms.

For example, Berlin has architecture in the Parisian style and in emulation of the Romans. London has houses meant to look Greek.
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#74 to #70 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Sure cultures can influence each other, but i visited Amsterdam a few days ago, its mainly Dutch baroque.
Its different from Berlin.

A mosque sticks out like a sore thumb
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#77 to #74 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Dutch Baroque is based on ancient civilisations hundreds of miles away from Amsterdam.

"Architecture sticking out like a sore thumb" is not a reason to avoid something.
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#96 to #77 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
>based on ancient civilisations
******* everything is. The point is that it looks different.
You should avoid mosques because muslims don't belong in Europe, they are dangerous. Not all of them, of course. But many of them DO hold extremist views. No point in arguing about the exact number.

The war in Syria is a terrible happening, and we SHOULD help. But not by accepting them into Europe, but by helping other muslim countries take them in.
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#98 to #96 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
Mosque's don't have to look different. And even in a fully "multi-cultural" society (that term is a stupid term to begin with, because it is impossible to be multi-cultural; any infusion of culture will be its own culture) there would be an obvious "theme" or type of architecture. Not that it matters.

1. danger is not how belongingness is decided. Or we would have to remove all Catholics in Northern Ireland.

2. Extremist views does not equal dangerous. Wrong, yes, but not dangerous.

Different cultures are not like oil and vinegar. They do mix, all the time. Look how Christianity and Islam coexisted in the Ottoman empire (especially given that said empire was ruled by people from Christian families), or how Hinduism and Islam coexisted in India under the Sultans.
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User avatar #102 to #98 - sircool (01/04/2016) [-]
yeah! like how modern islamists slaughter the christains that still live where the ottomoman empire controlled! Or how buddist monks of all people are trying to ban islam in some regions?
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#134 to #66 - kingpongthedon (01/05/2016) [-]
Amsterdam, Athens, Florence, Berlin, and London all got their power and beauty from their multiculturality.

Amsterdam and London came into power from international commerce. Neither of their iconic plants, pot and tea, are native to Europe. Big Ben and the Parliament building are derived from Continental Gothic architecture. Amsterdam's canals were developed to cope with a massive influx of immigrants.

Berlin is the seat of German unification. And it's most famous architectural accomplishment, the Brandenburg Gate, was developed as a symbol of openness. Furthermore, it's a triumphal arch, a concept directly lifted from Roman antiquity and at the time was a distinctively French style.

Florence was the heart and soul of the Renaissance, a period devoted to rediscovering Classical Greek and Roman culture. Sure, Florence was in the same geographical area as Rome but there's a millennium between the two. They can hardly be said to be the same culture.

Lastly we have Athens. Athens was the preeminent cultural center of the Classical world. Athens was not Greek, it was Athenian. The Hellenic states were hardly a united culture. Athenians and Spartans were as different as New Yorkers and Alabamans today. The Acropolis was a trade post and it became the gathering place of the Classical world's best and brightest. It was the only place you could meet Carthaginians, Persians, Scythians, Iberians, and Phoenicians.
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#33 to #32 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
same issue with indians being so proud of their country with industrial pollutants in the rivers and lakes, and people ******** in the streets

indians still ******* love their ********
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User avatar #124 to #33 - hwaraam (01/05/2016) [-]
>le designated maymay.jpeg
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#28 to #24 - herecomesjohnny (01/04/2016) [-]
>chivalry
there's a substantial community on 4chan that wears adult diapers for comfort
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#58 to #28 - skebaba (01/04/2016) [-]
>Chivalry
You mean king's men raping and pillaging the peasants, right?
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User avatar #211 to #28 - lieutenantderp (01/05/2016) [-]
>4chan =/= pol
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#97 to #28 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
XDDDDDDDDD U r le human lol XDDDDDDDDDD there are humans in africa that eat cow poo poo DDDDDDDDDDDD XDDDD so u eat cow poo poo tooo it means LOL EBIC MEME XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOOOLL XD KEKK LOL :^)))))
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User avatar #101 to #97 - herecomesjohnny (01/04/2016) [-]
it's going to be okay anon just go back to /v/ it'll be okay
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User avatar #49 to #24 - Einsty ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
You can be proud of your heritage while others are proud of their own. I don't see how that would be a problem.
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#4 - randomuploads (01/04/2016) [-]
"Pride in one's heritage"

Perfect for worthless ******** who have nothing of their own to take pride in.
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User avatar #6 to #4 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
But you should still feel sorry about slavery tho.
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User avatar #199 to #6 - Shiny ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
>tu quoque
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User avatar #200 to #199 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
maybe a lil, but i dont care.
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User avatar #203 to #200 - Shiny ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
You're posting political propaganda on a funny picture site. If you don't care, you're kind of a hypocrite.
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#7 to #6 - randomuploads (01/04/2016) [-]
It's perfectly normal to get a certain uneasy feeling when talking about Slavery. After all, a part of the properity that I am now enjoying was brought about over the backs of slaves.
And that's not a bad thing, get confronted with terrible things that were done in the past so they won't happen again.

That said, I will never apologise for something I wasn't personal responsible for, just like I won't take pride in the fact that I'm born in a certain place.
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#99 to #7 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
>It's perfectly normal to get a certain uneasy feeling when talking about Slavery. After all, a part of the properity that I am now enjoying was brought about over the backs of slaves.

Then it's also perfectly normal to feel a little bit prideful when talking about your own country. After all, a part of the prosperity that I am now enjoying was brought about over the backs of my ancestors.
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User avatar #112 to #99 - wotlqq (01/04/2016) [-]
i think the soviet union flag is very misplaced in this picture since they propably would beat the living **** out of trans ppl or fat sjw´s
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#187 to #112 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
Left can be really stupid.

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User avatar #131 to #112 - therockofshame (01/05/2016) [-]
Its to represent how they support communism.
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User avatar #150 to #131 - tenaciouslee (01/05/2016) [-]
Which is ironic, because Stalin's Russia would've oppressed the **** out of those weirdos.
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User avatar #8 to #7 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
> After all, a part of the properity that I am now enjoying was brought about over the backs of slaves.

You honestly think you benefit from slavery in any way?

>just like I won't take pride in the fact that I'm born in a certain place.
Is a man not allowed to be proud of his parents? His grandparents?
I'm talking about our own people, that defended Europe against the muslim invasions and made Europe and the US great. All the things we enjoy right now are gifts from them to us. If you ask me we should contribute to these gifts, expand them and then give those gifts to our children, not to muslim migrants that want to destroy everything we have build.
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User avatar #19 to #8 - punxy ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
I don't think muslims want to destroy everything though, I mean sure there's bad people, but there's just as many bad christians, and jews and atheists.
I went to school with some muslim people, and I had a long conversation with one of them, trying to figure out all their stuff. And well, at least these guys were nice.
And I think one of the bigger problems with the muslim migrants, isn't the numbers and stuff, but the unwillingness for people to tell them to act like normal people. Like, tell them to stop it when they demand that kids don't bring pork in their lunch boxes and stuff. So I think it's more Europeans who have to not be pussies.
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#21 to #19 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
There are a disproportionate number of muslim terrorists when compared to other religions.
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#38 to #21 - hongkonglongdong (01/04/2016) [-]
I'd like to see stats on that. I'm wondering if that's actually the case, or it's just that there are a disproportionate number of terrorists who target us that are Muslim. Like, the vast majority of people in the brutal Congo civil war were Christian, and I'm sure they had terrorists. And I know India has a ********* of Hindu terrorists.
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User avatar #20 to #19 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
Not all muslims are bad ppl. But some of em are, and in the muslim community some is a lot.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
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User avatar #111 to #20 - punxy ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
It is a lot, yeah. The point I was trying to make at the end though, was that Europeans have to not be pussies, and stand up to muslims when they start demanding we change stuff, instead of just doing whatever they tell us out of fear of being called racist. Which is what I think at least some of the problem is. A lot of them are spoiled brats really, being used to get everything they want when they want it, at least that's what I've seen with a lot of them here. Not all of them though, there are some nice people of course. I think I might not have worded everything right at first, sorry for that.

I agree that there are a many bad people among them though, and I also agree that it's fine to take pride in where ever you're from.
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#108 to #19 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
just have to ask, do you enjoy watching people have sex with your wife/gf?
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#9 to #8 - randomuploads (01/04/2016) [-]
Narrow-minded fool.
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#10 to #9 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
Srsly bro? not coming with arguments, just namecalling and blocking me on my own content?
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#11 to #10 - randomuploads (01/04/2016) [-]
Damn right. Dragging muslims into this for no reason other then to show how narrow your focus is, I don't want anything to do with you.
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#12 to #11 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
Still no arguments against my statement.
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#13 to #12 - randomuploads (01/04/2016) [-]
Yea, because that would involve taking you seriously.
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#14 to #13 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
I get the feeling you dont have any arguments left.
And im tired of going anon on my own content
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User avatar #157 to #13 - captainfuckitall (01/05/2016) [-]
Here, I never said anything against Muslims, give ME the argument then.
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User avatar #93 to #9 - threeeighteen (01/04/2016) [-]
That's a standard Left wing insult. Can't wait for the Right to bring up cucks.
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User avatar #156 to #4 - lordofbumcrack (01/05/2016) [-]
edgy
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#27 to #4 - herecomesjohnny (01/04/2016) [-]
I'm feeling you right now. I only think pride should trickle down from your own actions, not from your country or basketball team, and that has always gotten me strange looks.
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User avatar #47 to #27 - Einsty ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
It's a part of living in a society.
You owe loayalty to your ancestry and kin. It is in exchange for what they gave you and are giving you even now. If you inherit a house, you are not a new owner of an old house. You are a continuation of a tradition. If your town's footbal team wins against another town, you cheer for them, as they will cheer for you when you do something to raise the prestige of your town. All the same, if your country goes to war, you are obliged to take up arms against the enemy. To think otherwise seems a bit selfish to me.

It's a two way street of course. If you want to live your own way, you may burn the bridges and cut all your ties, but don't be surprised when others do it to you as well. (The same principle puts you in jail when you break the law)
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User avatar #76 to #47 - herecomesjohnny (01/04/2016) [-]
Woah there
Defending my country when it's in dire situations is an act of fraternity towards my people, which I dissociate from patriotism
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#57 to #47 - skebaba (01/04/2016) [-]
No, you are not obliged to take up arms. It doesn't make a difference to your average person's life, who rules. Why should I care who rules?
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User avatar #71 to #57 - Einsty ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
You should care who rules your country because you are one of the individuals who live in it.

If you live in a democracy, you get a vote. Use that vote, use it wisely. Everybody eligible gets one as well. Best system there is so far.
If you don't live in a democracy, opting out is a bit harder, but you may find a way to defect. In that case, thermite is powder aluminium and iron rust powder. Put it in a flower pot with a hole and light it at the rail tracks. **** can burn straight trough an inch thick steel plate. Also, read up on general sabotage and guerilla warfare. You may want to try and avoid civilian casualties, though.
If your rulers commit attrocities or would force you to commit attrocities, you may withdraw your aliegence to your rulers on the grounds that they do not support your other values. And with that you may also defect as mentioned above.

All the same, you are not taking up arms just for your leader, unless it's an offensive war with no real benefits to your people that only serves to line the pockets of some less than honorable people. Most of the time, you would be defending your fellow countrymen. And they would do the same for you.
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#173 to #71 - skebaba (01/05/2016) [-]
Except your vote doesn't matter, since most people are idiot sheeple. Democracy is just the least bad way of governing. A good and benevolent king would still trump democracy.
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User avatar #223 to #173 - Einsty ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
Hehe, you said "trump democracy".

Immature jokes aside, your vote matters exacly as much as your neighbor's. At least it should. (Looking your way, US electoral college)

Problem with today's elections is the ammount of propaganda in media in some countries (How it happens that most nationwide tv networks in a country are controlled by a single entity with political bias and agenda is baffling). It gets hard to tell if what you're looking at is the complete picture, a representative sample of reality, a carefuly picked portion of it or a flat out lie.

That being said, the attitude "votes don't matter" is pretty corrosive to democracy when more people hold it. Please don't hold such attitude and vote. If there is noone to vote for, run for office yourself. Good chances are you will find some supporters in your local area, then more as you progress. That's how my step uncle became mayor 8 years ago. The locals had interest no other candidate was supporting, so he gethered a small crowd of supporters, ran for office and won the local elections .
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#109 to #27 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
there's a difference between pride in a football team and a nation tho
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#113 to #4 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
but i do have personal things i'm proud of, yet i'm still proud of my nation and people. i'm sure as hell gonna be proud if my father does something great, so why not my ancestors and people too?
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#162 to #4 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Yeah I know right?
Oh whats that? Germans should pay for what they did to the jews?
Whites should pay for colonialism and slavery?

Okay then so pride and heritage for your ancestors good deeds and civilization building capabilities should be something we take pride in but we should be ashamed and even pay for our ancestors misdeeds!

Also who cares about taking example from past successes!
Thank you liberal thinking!
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#94 to #4 - anon (01/04/2016) [-]
Or... people can take pride in whatever the **** they want and not have someone tell them what they can and can't have pride in.
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#181 to #94 - ninjaflapjack (01/05/2016) [-]
To take pride in the actions of your ancestors is pretending that what your ancestors achieved for themselves has a bearing on you. Instead, respect your ancestors and match your achievements with a legacy of your own. good lord five attempts why am I on here at 6am
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#159 - renespar (01/05/2016) [-]
oh boy, Isure love when /pol/ gets so far up their own ass they think they are a force of great righteousness in the world, instead of sounding just like this picture here
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User avatar #160 to #159 - Nekatroz (01/05/2016) [-]
/pol/ is just a hugbox of classcucks.
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#140 - kristovsky (01/05/2016) [-]
Why even live
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#118 - schneidend (01/04/2016) [-]
Yeah, man, that's clearly all /pol/ believes in, is family, God, tradition, chivalry, and pride in one's heritage. But, their families, because yours are **** . Their God, because yours is/are evil. Chivalry, the code that says its okay to kill people who get in their way or they don't like. Their traditions, because yours are **** . Pride in their heritage, because yours is **** .

It's an absolute ******* mystery how their views are considered edgy and controversial in these degenerate times.
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#132 to #118 - killerjhtwo (01/05/2016) [-]
mfw.
Oh wait, no.

They think most current families are **** apart from traditional Breadwinner/Upkeep families with traditional values. It worked for thousands of years and it's only recently now that the family system has been broken that **** is going wrong.

Not "their god" it's "a good religion" As in a religion that promises thought as well as upholding traditional ideals. A religion that gives a higher power and asense of responsibility instead of self entitled people thinking that they know everything. /pol/ goers could be buddhists or shintoists but quite frankly most of them are from Christian countries so the society they live in evolved with that religion and its moral values. I say they could be buddhists or shintoists because those religions adapt to the times whilst still retaining their values.

Not chivalry. Chivalry has become something hazy. Taken literally it was the knight's/baron's code in medieval times that dictated how numerous things such as dueling, politics, and other such activities they would find themselves doing. Because people don't understand it now (and for quite a long time) it has come to mean being "gentlemanly". Either or /pol/ is not after chivalry. They're after a sense of honour that is lacking in this world today. One where two men who could not settle a dispute peaceably would have a punch up, shake hands and then be on their way with the matter being settled. Also things like promises, where a man was only as good as his word, which encouraged righteousness and true loyalty. This is nothing to do with killing people you don't like as you said.

Their traditions are the traditions that until recently were the mainstay in Europe. Something to take pride in because it was part of the heritage, taking pride in the heritage because it is actually extremely impressive. There will be some who are supremecist, but instead of the majority being so like you implied, they just want to take pride in what their forefathers achieved, because it creates a sense of beloning, and also can inspire people to better those that came before them.
They just want to express this pride, but when they do, autistic faggots such as yourself call them racists, backwards, xenophobes and so on.

Please. Just stop being a dick, and actually think about what you say.
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User avatar #136 to #132 - schneidend (01/05/2016) [-]
"It worked for thousands of years and it's only recently..."
Let me stop you right there. The nuclear family is a largely modern invention, too. For thousands of years you've had people marrying off their children for dowries or political power, often never to see them again. Single parents aren't some brand new thing that never existed before 1950. Homosexuals are able to be who they are more openly, but they've existed for thousands of years, too, had children, raised children. The world keeps on turning. The world is better now than it has ever been. In most of the world there's demonstrably less disease, less hunger, less crime, and supposedly more happiness. **** is only "going wrong" in the eyes of hatemongers who are being criticized for ******** on people they don't like.

There's people practicing virtually every religion who are adapting to the times, and at the same time there are people practicing virtually every religion that uses that religion as an excuse for barbarism. The Dalai Lama and his fellow monks used Buddhism to excuse a theocratic dictatorship in Tibet for many years. They weren't exactly adapting to modern times. Any religion can do this. Christians did it for a long time, and there are still Christian fundamentalist groups that resort to violence out there to this day.

The post is from /pol/ and says chivalry, so yes chivalry. That's their own words. But, the idea that there was ever some universal sense of honor in the world that magically vanished recently is laughable. People got into fights, beat each other up or killed each other, and their families feuded for decades. There has been violence and broken promises since the beginning of human history. Seeking a future where honor is widespread is a noble goal, but /pol/ imagines that such a time once existed and is now gone because people exist who disagree them. They also imagine they're the only ones who possess these qualities of honor and loyalty. They're, quite plainly, wrong.

Expressing pride in your tradition and heritage is fine. The problem with /pol/ is that they do so with a hefty dose of ******** all over traditions and heritage that is different from their own. If you're brown and wear a turban, you're a ******** . if you hold different values, even if they don't actually harm anyone, you're a ****** or an SJW, or otherwise a degenerate. /pol/ threads are filled with comments like how at least they're not ******* or how Obama is an uppity ****** . That's not expressing pride, that's expressing hate.

The thing is, I'm not being a dick. My problem with /pol/ and their assorted ******** is that they're the ones being dicks about it, like all the ******* time. They're not racists because they're proud of their heritage, they're racists because they spend an indorinate amount of time talking about how inferior and awful other races are.
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#158 to #132 - billburr (01/05/2016) [-]
Almost nothing has "Worked for 1000's of years"
Believe it or not, life has gotten infinitely better over the last few thousand years and the last 200 in particular.
Pol sells a ******** narrative that the world is falling apart and the only way to fix it is to go back in time when things were ********
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#128 to #118 - brothergrimm (01/05/2016) [-]
Sounds like somebody got BTFO in a /pol/ thread and is still mad
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User avatar #202 to #128 - Shiny ONLINE (01/05/2016) [-]
You can be factually wrong and still win an argument on /pol/ because their rhetoric is nothing but "cuck", "JIDF" and lookatthisgraph.webm
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User avatar #204 to #202 - brothergrimm (01/05/2016) [-]
In no way shape or form do i ever condone what goes on in /pol/...... The place is a pit of ignorance and stupidity.
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User avatar #129 to #128 - schneidend (01/05/2016) [-]
What would they blow me the **** out with, screaming about the supposed Zionist conspiracy while demonstrating no proof of its existence? Holy **** , you're right, they got me.
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#130 to #129 - brothergrimm (01/05/2016) [-]
Shhhhhhhhh it's okay. Just let it go
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#39 - kanedam ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
all these edgy comments... wow...
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#17 - lotengo [OP](01/04/2016) [-]
this one hit me hard
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User avatar #214 to #17 - thegrimpoe (01/05/2016) [-]
i dont think europe and the us are very apathetic mang
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#177 - bwiedieter (01/05/2016) [-]
Pol is trying so goddamn hard to be edgy, their "support of family, god, chivalry, tradition and pride in one´s heritage" is completely drowned out by the white noise of either young kids or degenerate adults trying to justify why their social group is the best and everything else is **** .
Pol IS moral degeneracy. It is the tool for ego masturbation for social outcasts and rejects that are convinced that everyone else is at fault for their status.
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#161 - IamPinhead (01/05/2016) [-]
/pol/ trumps up their racism and homophobia as righteous patriotism. They're no different from SJWs, if you swap 'righteous patriotism' for 'righteous equality'
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User avatar #171 - maxismahname (01/05/2016) [-]
Lotengo, promise you'll stop thumbwhoring comment thumbs like a bitch, okay? Post all the content you want, but don't post the top comment from last time on it
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User avatar #184 to #171 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
havent done that in ages.
Never evn seen this one on FJ before
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User avatar #197 to #184 - maxismahname (01/05/2016) [-]
I'm glad you changed your ways
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User avatar #198 to #197 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
twas fun for a lil while, got my in the 'best of 2015' comp.
Got me some love and a lot of hate.
Fun ride, but i gotta stay fresh, move on to new stuff.
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#218 to #198 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
move on to new stuff like killing the site with /pol/ ****
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User avatar #219 to #218 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
Its working out really wel for me at the moment.
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#220 to #219 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Shame the site has lost so many views the same time all the political **** started going nuts. Please stop so we can be great again
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User avatar #221 to #220 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
You got a source to back up that statement?
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#222 to #221 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Admin saying that even though hes been working on the site so much adding features over the pest couple months visits have plummeted. Coincidentally the last couple months has been the /pol/ invasion
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User avatar #224 to #222 - lotengo [OP](01/05/2016) [-]
So no actual evidence besides 'admin told me that´


Admin also told me that anime reaction pics are counted as CP by the feds and that the cyberpolice raids the autism board on a daily base, costing him milions.
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#225 to #224 - anon (01/05/2016) [-]
Well I would get the public post that was stickied for all to see and show you incase you missed it but you cant look at admin's profile
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User avatar #226 to #225 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
no reference, no evidence.

I remember that post you talk about, it was way before /pol/ and shortly after the site was down for a week
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#227 to #226 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't worry your little vagina, I managed to find it. /How+to+revive+dying+fj/text/5782190/ it was slightly over a week ago it was posted which is well into the neo-Nazi storm on the site
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User avatar #228 to #227 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Schools started again.
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#229 to #228 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
He wouldnt point it out if it happened every time school went back
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User avatar #230 to #229 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Nope he would not, because that doesnt help with donations.

But its still true, summerfags are not just a meme you dip.
One would think that an anon that cares enough to get behind 7 proxies knows this
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#231 to #230 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
So admin is just making **** up/exaggerating to get more money? Hmmmmmmmmmm
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User avatar #232 to #231 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Not saying that, just stating you dont have any source or argument that /pol/ is destroying FJ.

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#233 to #232 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
You can even find a bunch of people complaining about the political **** on that post. Its entirely possible that a bunch of less than loyal visitors decided to leave because of it. It is cancer on this site and not even in a channel to be blocked. This is funnyjunk not thekikesandmuslimsdiditalljunk
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#234 to #233 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Click to show spoiler
Then you make a politics channel.

Also, this argument can also be applied to your weebfag content, since thats probably a bigger scareoff for normiefags.

You think ppl like anime? Keep in mind that in the last 30 days only 6 contents out of the 811 in the weebfag channel got more thumbs than this one.

1 of them is pic related, i dont evn consider this anime content in the first place
2 of them are 4chan posts.
> /channel/animemanga/Step+15+be+a+main+character/xgjfLkt/
> /channel/animemanga/Ouch/pDmfLcQ/
2 of them are 1 punch man. Extremely casual anime, non of the soshiko no kabuki pedo trash
> /channel/animemanga/Single+smack+jack/wGnfLjT/
> /channel/animemanga/One+punch+pill/XTqfLKG/
And the last one is Pokemon, mainstream cartoon.
> /channel/animemanga/Copyright/YprfLLc/

So my content rates better than the 'lol random sex joke' and 'le main character sits by le window' bullcrap i always oppose.

Keep in mind the channel blocking isnt implemented long enough to make a noticable difference in traffic.
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User avatar #238 to #234 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Pedo =/= muslim
And you started with 'thekikesandmuslimsdiditall' on comment comment #233, i played the pedo move on comment #234. Don´ t try to claim moral superiority here.

Saying /pol/ is nothing more than 'gass the kikes and muslims' is like saying tumblr is nothing more than fatshaming.

I made this content to have actual discussions and if you take a few seconds you see that actual discussions have taken place in the commentsection. Not just about hurr muslims, but about culture, history, religion, traditional values, family, architecture etc.

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#237 to #234 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
"non of the soshiko no kabuki pedo trash"
Using "pedo" in the wrong context has been established in making you a muslim
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User avatar #236 to #234 - lotengo [OP](01/06/2016) [-]
Replying to myself because we hit the reply limit.

I never used the word 'muslim' or 'islam' in this stream of conversation.
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#235 to #234 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
Why should i make the politics channel? You faggots go contain your own cancer

Also, back to being a Muslim again i see. No Muslim's arguments are valid
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User avatar #167 - deansg (01/05/2016) [-]
I mean, Pol does support these things, in addition to a very large of pro-Hitler posts etc'... They're still not that traditional. Don't pretend like Pol doesn't still have some truly edgy (and sometimes even ****** up) politics
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#106 - thelizardlord ONLINE (01/04/2016) [-]
GIF
This is ****** up
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User avatar #135 - imofcnotharveydent (01/05/2016) [-]
the new generation will for the most parts sooner or later get rid of the worse things in human kind. We got the most peaceful time on the earth, with not two countries being at war 1.

There is nothing wrong about family, unless you're talking about the old model of women stays in the kitchen, so I don't get that part of the post to be honest.
Chivalry? old tradition which would need some elaboration, I only thing of fedoras getting tipped and betas being exploited, but what do i know.

tradition is constantly changing, and everyone will be angry, sad, have feelings over them being changed. There is a tradition of mutilating women down there in poor countries, people still get upset about that. 2.

pride in heritage isn't necessarily wrong, but it's a part of the old, and the new who wants change will want to look on the old.

moral degeneracy is always changing, back in the good old days bikinis and shorts where outrageous, and ******* heroin was legal over the counter drug against all kinds of things. 3.

What does all of this boil down to? That our present and future is heaven and the past was completely **** ? No, it means both the future and the past have problems that we are trying to get sorted out.
sources in video format on YouTube :
1. war : www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbuUW9i-mHs&ab_channel=InaNutshell%E2%80%93Kurzgesagt
2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnmBLB-UX4&ab_channel=Broadly
3. www.toptenz.net/top-10-drugs-that-used-to-be-legal.php
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User avatar #139 to #135 - thatoneiranianguy (01/05/2016) [-]
Honestly periods of moral hedonism have always been common throughout history.

It's usually recessive in nature though, moralists and structuralists will condemn immoral actions and styles of living and we'll repeat the whole process over again.

A fine example is the Weimar Republic (AKA Germany post-WWI Pre-Hitler,) a cesspool of high end Laissez Faire capitalism, experimental sciences with changes people's sexual organs (i.e. transgenderism,) gay bars and prostitution rampant - all of this was stopped of course once Hitler came to power as it was one of the sights that motivated him to stop it.

That wasn't that long ago either, just the 1920's - sure it's over 100 years, but in the grand scheme of things...not that long ago relative to us as we are still feeling the effects of the first world war.
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User avatar #143 to #139 - imofcnotharveydent (01/05/2016) [-]
Well, let's hope we don't get any more dictators in power then, maybe the blowback will be so bad
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User avatar #144 to #143 - thatoneiranianguy (01/05/2016) [-]
It'll probably happen, just something we'll have to accept until we have some sort of grand social evolution moment which I don't think we're ready for.

And I also realised I ****** up, not sure why I said over 100 years, I meant to say close to 100 years.
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User avatar #146 to #144 - imofcnotharveydent (01/05/2016) [-]
unfortunately yes, Putin is a scary factor.

Yeah an evolution seems a bit far off, but a few small punches at a time, and maybe we can get further than we thought.
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