Detroit before and after.. .. yo is this fallout 4?
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User avatar #10 - ikinkajou (11/09/2013) [-]
yo is this fallout 4?
#26 - lincolnpenis ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
Think of all the copper wiring, one could make a fortune.
User avatar #27 to #26 - thetom (11/09/2013) [-]
its already gone
#50 - akho (11/09/2013) [-]
>Richest country in the world
>Major city poorer than an African village not technically
#106 to #50 - gerfox (11/09/2013) [-]
Not technically the richest country in the world either, even though you have the biggest economy. You're soaked in debt - and it's big sums out and big sums in.
#55 to #50 - neonblackkitty (11/09/2013) [-]
it sort of is an african village
it sort of is an african village
#59 to #55 - gammajk ONLINE (11/09/2013) [-]
oh i get it
#62 - acidreign (11/09/2013) [-]
This building in Detroit is abandoned. You know ****** gotten bad when skyscrapers are abandoned.
#64 to #62 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
there are bigger things that are abandoned there. Whole car plants, warehouses, schools, business buildings, train stations. I actually go to school in Detroit, and was born and raised in the metro.
User avatar #65 to #64 - acidreign (11/09/2013) [-]
**** I feel bad for you. I fly into the airport occasionally, but that's about my only exposure
#71 to #65 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
I drive by this one all the time. Old car factory. But the city isn't "bad", just like every city it does have shady parts. But there's a lot of history down there.
#99 - Uranium (11/09/2013) [-]
I'm going to do some urban exploring this winter I plan on checking out the Grande Ballroom. Really important place if you like Rock, Punk, or Heavy Metal
User avatar #101 to #99 - CaptalnPlanet (11/09/2013) [-]
that is the most hipster **** ive ever read in my ******* life
#103 to #101 - Uranium (11/09/2013) [-]
I'm not a hipster I just want to check it out. A lot of bands I really like played there and made their name there. Detroit is Detroit Rock City because of venues like the Grande.
#1 - Rascal (11/08/2013) [-]
What happened to Detroit?
#2 to #1 - theblargypargler (11/08/2013) [-]
Economic collapse, I think.
User avatar #6 to #1 - pheonixinstinct (11/08/2013) [-]
when the market crashed Detroit was one of the hardest hit areas, turned into a giant **** hole. anyone with enough money to leave left and those without enough money were left to try and find was rough for them im sure.
User avatar #8 to #1 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
Several extremely corrupt politicians and utter economic collapse. The automotive crisis was a final nail in the coffin

People like to blame blacks for the mess, even though the black population was pretty huge half a century ago, too, and constituted a huge percentage of the employed and property-owning demographic. lolmurica
#15 to #8 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
brother im born and raised in detroit. its sad that i have to agree with you that the automotive is being shipped out. this is the MOTOR CITY right? i work in a steel mill in detroit and all i hear is that the big 3 is stopping the orders. we have the chinese/japanese coming to our mill wanting our product. but that brings money to us- not to the people. that shows that were not where were supposed to be
User avatar #28 to #1 - xdeathspawnx (11/09/2013) [-]
The Detroit economy was completely based on cars. When foreign cars started becoming cheaper and cheaper people stopped buying american cars as much, which caused a huge hit to the Detroit economy. With no other industry to rely on things got worse and worse in the city. At the same time the rich people started moving out of Detroit to the surrounding suburbs, wanting a combination of more space and safer neighborhoods. soon enough almost everyone followed them, which caused the rich people to move even further away. Eventually the only people left living in Detroit were the ones who were too poor to leave. Now the majority of Detroit is abandoned. There are miles and miles of neighborhoods with burnt out houses because of gang warfare, vandalism, and meth lab explosions.

The Metro Detroit area is now basically a collection of cities divided by wealth, with the inner city being the poorest. The richer cities, like Bloomfield Hills and Birmingham have good schools, while the poorer ones, like Pontiac and downtown Detroit have absolutely terrible ones. The majority of people are focused on trying to get from own town to a richer one to try and provide better education for their kids.

Detroit and Michigan have some terrible things about them, but overall it is a great state. There is almost nowhere else in the world that I would rather live. It makes me sad to hear my grandparents talk about Detroit in its prime, and then to see what it is like now. I have hope that things will get better one day though.
User avatar #54 to #28 - brobafett (11/09/2013) [-]
User avatar #9 to #1 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
after imports started becoming cheaper, and more fuel eficent than american made, it started going down hill. but the big "Recession" that started in 07 made people just not want to buy new cars. lots of lost jobs. i live close to there now. I'm from california where there is not a lot older than 40 years because of one reason or another. the old brick and stone in the city i think is beautiful. there is a lot of history in that town and i respect that. most of the people that live out here like to go to "The D" (local name) for sports and the casinos. the houses in detroit are horibly old and un-maintanaced.the streets are crime ridden. its one of those things that good people dont have a reason to move into the city, and those that cant get out, dont repect it. the city itself has very few well paid residents because the areas just outside the city are nicer and not far away. I'm from the desert so i never had much greenery, but i think it is wonderful out here.

I thought of an interesting way to help "Fix" detroit but i really dont want to type it unless somebody cares for it. if so ask
User avatar #19 to #9 - komandantmirkoo (11/09/2013) [-]
does your plan include a caped crusader? because your story kinda screams gotham
User avatar #39 to #19 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
sadly no
User avatar #14 to #9 - tealcanaan (11/09/2013) [-]
This, to an extent, though U.S. made cars are still popular in the states. Also with the passage of NAFTA, a lot of engine and other part manufacturing moved to Mexico, because of the dramatic difference in currency value, simply making it a no-brainer to move the production down there.
User avatar #90 to #9 - applesdontpee (11/09/2013) [-]
well, yes and no? now i have no inkling of detroit history (even though i've lived an hour away from there my whole life), but it was pretty ****** before '07
User avatar #119 to #90 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
I get that but it got a lot worse after '07
User avatar #17 to #9 - organiclead (11/09/2013) [-]
How would you fix it?
User avatar #49 to #17 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
well i thought of it this way. the demand to live in detroit is low, driving down the property value. it takes one group to buy like half of the HORRIBLY ghetto area and do one of two things, keep them and fix them up, or tear them down and start all over... anyway im thinking basically a HUGE gated community, (i dont mean to make detroit to look like post opoc., but the way some of it looks..) to wall of the outside. it would have a nice golf course, HUGE park with maybe a community pool, maybe even a casino of its own (just about make it its own town) the residents will have access to this stuff by their resident fees (its how country clubs add property tax without calling it a tax). you could also have access if you knew someone on the inside. if you lived within [insert radius here] you would get a discount.

that was one way i thought of earlier today just after i got to thinking about it. i have two other ideas. one very similar one mostly different.

far one: step one > rich guy buys blocks of ghetto just outside downtown
step 2>builds mansion right in the middle of it. tears up the streets and puts in grass whatever.
step tres> puts up nice fences, walls etc., people have to walk 1/2 mile across a field to even attempt to get to his **** .
final: un-robable mansion. low land cost, extremely close to the middle of a city both industrial production (southwest) or law offices or just offices in general (down-town). a man could run an enterprise extremely close to home. others like the idea and do so aswell. dramatically lowering the population but making it a nicer place. nicer place higher prop value, higher prop value means houses get closer together, eventually houses back at normal spacing but they know they are so close to such a well kept area

compromise: >rich guy buys most of land
>(im thinkin medieval castle) mansion in middle but lots of servants on grounds,live there.
> seperate houses
>overflow into city,
people work for the rich guy.

User avatar #51 to #49 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
just writing it down i realized how little this would help because why wouldnt you just go into the beautiful surrounding lands and you are close enough anyway. and one rich guy wont create enough workers to jumpstart a CITY. AND you cant take a ton of land out of down town without ruining the history of downtown. i guess its one of those things that a bunch of people that work in the area need to move in and fix the place up one house at a time.

one difference from california to here is that in cali, EVERYONE had fences. i didnt realize till i went out here how much space all those fences take up. ever gone to play frisbee but the disc flew over the neighbors fence. ya not around here, you can play in the neighbors yard too because there are no barriers. really adds possibilities to backyard sports like a decent game of football. anyway if you mad a nice house in detroit, it would get robbed. to not make it get robbed you would put up fences. i know from LA that when 1/2 the land is roads, 1/4 is buildings and 3/16 is walls.. it dosent leave a whole lot to look at.

I dont know a way to fix detroit, but i really would like to see it happen someday. the people here really do love the city and are really kind folk, but the city is just not a desirable place to be to most people when the immediate surroundings are so nice.

i am just a apprentice carpenter so i will go back to not knowing anything about the psychology of people towards detroit.
#16 to #9 - anino (11/09/2013) [-]
Im not very familiar with American states or cities but Detroit is basically Gotham City then
User avatar #41 to #16 - johnylingo (11/09/2013) [-]
well gotham is supposed to be based off NY... but so is metropolis.... and they are in the same universe.. idk
User avatar #3 to #1 - matakeshi ONLINE (11/08/2013) [-]
the city got ********
#94 to #3 - bann (11/09/2013) [-]
It's pretty much always been black people, so no. Short answer the auto industry it relied on went out the window, the money/people moved out, and decay overtook the city.
User avatar #112 to #94 - vicsix (11/09/2013) [-]
All ******* are black people, but not all black people are ******* .
#113 to #112 - bann (11/09/2013) [-]
Yea, but it was the decay of the city that made everyone go ' ******* , not the other way around.
User avatar #12 to #3 - ranzoray (11/09/2013) [-]
Probably a lot more complicated than that
User avatar #89 - applesdontpee (11/09/2013) [-]
My mom was trying to start up some real estate there a few years ago not sure why she thought that was a good idea and got a few run down--but nearly as ****** as even the average detroit building-- foreclosed houses at an auction. She went to visit one of them and it turned out people were living in one. She kept trying to sell them the house and i tuned out of mom's business ventures at this point.. but for the sake of continuity eventually tried to get them kicked out

they burned down the house
#91 to #89 - rummler (11/09/2013) [-]
I was not expecting that last bit...
User avatar #92 to #91 - applesdontpee (11/09/2013) [-]
nobody expects the spanish inquisition especially when it's by black people
User avatar #93 to #89 - applesdontpee (11/09/2013) [-]
*not nearly as ******
User avatar #83 - dedaluminus (11/09/2013) [-]
So, Detroit sucks. So here's my plan. And hear me out on this.

We burn it to the ground.

Okay, we've got that, it's step one, but step 2 is even more awesome.

We transplant the entire city of New Orleans there. People, buildings, everything. It's built in a stupid place, below sea level, to begin with. Apart from the cold every now and again, there's no natural disasters for the location of Detroit.

In two easy steps, we've saved the historic town of New Orleans, razed a failing metropolis, and revitalized both the Detroit Metro area and the entire national economy (since it would be such a big project.)
User avatar #95 to #83 - tehlulzbringer (11/09/2013) [-]
sure or we could build a big fence around it, throw all black people, liberals, trannies and all other degenerates in, wait for them to

or if you think that's too extreme, then we can still burn detroit down, and then after that's done we burn new orleans down
User avatar #97 to #95 - tehlulzbringer (11/09/2013) [-]
*wait for them to fight to death
User avatar #96 to #95 - dedaluminus (11/09/2013) [-]
Huh? I didn't say anything about liberals. And I'm very pro-tranny.
User avatar #98 to #96 - tehlulzbringer (11/09/2013) [-]
sure we could throw you in as well
User avatar #100 to #98 - dedaluminus (11/09/2013) [-]
Get out of here with your convoluted ******** , Cerberus.
#116 to #83 - namesnshit (11/09/2013) [-]
its already ****** up. let it be. make it more appealing to black people so they don't flock over to other states. i live in a decent area with a large Korean population. it was good until black people started moving in like rats. now our home values are down, crime rate is slightly gone up and it just ******* sucks. i know how these people are. i grew up around them. i worked in "ghetto" places. they're not even human. they're trash. the more i'm around them, the more i turn into a ******* psychopath. i pull knives on these assholes left and right like i'm a mass murderer or something. i'm always pissed off to hell when i'm around them. THEY turned me into a racist.

TL;DR black people are the problem. and don't even try to tell me about how "there's a difference between ******* and respectable african americans." because if 90% of them are pieces of barely human trash, then i really don't care to see the bright side.
#118 to #83 - batwill **User deleted account** (11/09/2013) [-]
That's a great idea, except for the fact that New Orleans is one of America's largest port cities. New Orleans would need to completely revitalize it's economy to go without the business. The only reason that a major city was built in a coastal swamp below sea level is because it sits at the mouth of the largest river in North America.
That's a great idea, except for the fact that New Orleans is one of America's largest port cities. New Orleans would need to completely revitalize it's economy to go without the business. The only reason that a major city was built in a coastal swamp below sea level is because it sits at the mouth of the largest river in North America.
User avatar #86 to #83 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
I eagerly support your plan, if only because I wish to see the plot of an episode of SpongeBob come to life.
User avatar #87 to #86 - dedaluminus (11/09/2013) [-]
Was that a plot for a spongebob episode? **** . I stopped watching after Ernest Borgnine died. Mermaidman was the best part.
User avatar #117 to #87 - MermaidMan (11/09/2013) [-]
im still alive.
User avatar #88 to #87 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
You know, the one where they try to push Bikini Bottom to some new place to get away from the worm thing.
#13 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
we went broke. kwame kilpatrick(look him up) stole millions from the city. i live in detroit and its considered the iraq of the U.S. it will be, sad to say the forgotten city of the U.S
#18 to #13 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
Why doesn't Em use his capitol and his influence and afluence to revive the citys industry. ******* fund a some buisness ventures, you're multiply platinum and you live there
#38 to #18 - xdeathspawnx (11/09/2013) [-]
He does, along with many other rich, like Dan Gilbert (owner of the cavaliers) and the Meijer Brothers (owners of Meijer). You don't understand how big Detroit is, there are dozens of miles of abandoned building that need to be torn down, and an entire economy that needs to be restarted. No matter how rich Eminem is, he doesn't have the money and influence to rebuild what used to be one of the biggest cities int he world.

Also, very few people actually live in the city anymore. Eminem lives several miles away in Rochester.
#36 to #18 - Rascal (11/09/2013) [-]
no workers who have any skills. i don't even mean experience, or school, but they have no basic job skills. cant show up on time, pass a drug screen, attempt tasks asked of them. all the citizens want to do is **** like rabbits and live of welfare. this is what happens when your whole ***** acts like children and work grow up.
#31 to #18 - Frenchfriday (11/09/2013) [-]
I'm pretty sure he does....
User avatar #11 - candlejackismyhomi (11/09/2013) [-]
Why does this make me want to cry?
User avatar #4 - theghostace (11/08/2013) [-]
man, father time (among others) really took a baseball bat to that place
User avatar #5 - moonmunk (11/08/2013) [-]
Ssohpkc would be proud
#110 - darthsanti (11/09/2013) [-]
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#56 - batwill **User deleted account** (11/09/2013) [-]
Now, more than ever, Detroit needs Robocop to bring it back.  Just not as the remake.
Now, more than ever, Detroit needs Robocop to bring it back. Just not as the remake.
User avatar #21 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
You guys are ******* with me.
No city that large could let THAT happen to so many buildings.
User avatar #22 to #21 - thehumor (11/09/2013) [-]
It's detroit.
User avatar #23 to #22 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
I know that but.,.....
No city......would ever let.......
just why?
User avatar #24 to #23 - thehumor (11/09/2013) [-]
read johnylingo's comment

Oh, and google detroit and look at the images for more
User avatar #29 to #24 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
Just looked up pictures.

That is just...... what is a stronger word for saddening and/or pathetic?
User avatar #30 to #29 - thehumor (11/09/2013) [-]

It used to be decent place

User avatar #32 to #30 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
Depressing isnt a stronger enough word to describe the decriptation ( i think thats a word) that that once shining city was in.
User avatar #34 to #32 - thehumor (11/09/2013) [-]
It recently went bankrupt

So it can only go down from here
User avatar #35 to #34 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
How much worse can you be when you go bankrupt?
User avatar #40 to #35 - thehumor (11/09/2013) [-]
we'll see
User avatar #33 to #21 - xdeathspawnx (11/09/2013) [-]
This is far from the worst of Detroit. There are plenty of buildings that have completely fallen apart or are just burnt to the ground. The city can't do anything about it. At some point the people who owned buildings realized it would be cheaper just to abandon them then to try and upkeep them, and there's nothing the city could do about it.
User avatar #43 to #33 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
So Detroit will be the first completely deserted major American city in the next.....what do you think......20-30 years?
User avatar #45 to #43 - xdeathspawnx (11/09/2013) [-]
Overall Detroit seems to be going uphill, so hopefully that will never happen. If it does continue getting worse I can see the country basically giving up on it n the next 20 years. There will always be homeless or very poor people living in the city though, because they don't have the money to leave. There's a big problem with homeless people living int he abandoned buildings. Most of the time it isn't a big deal and the cops don't do anything, but when a building has to be demolished the homeless often refuse to leave.
User avatar #46 to #45 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
I can actually see it now.

A bulb that has burnt out.

The homeless city
#47 to #46 - xdeathspawnx (11/09/2013) [-]
the majority of the city has basically been given up to the homeless and gangs by now. People go to the downtown area to go to sports games, casino's, hospitals, and work, but outside of downtown there are miles and miles of abandoned buildings. The majority of the city is a battleground for gangs and drug dealers.
User avatar #66 to #47 - deathchain (11/09/2013) [-]
Jesus, I didn't think it had gotten that bad...
User avatar #48 to #47 - roflstorm (11/09/2013) [-]
I dont even know how to describe Detroit now.
Even ********* are somewhat liveable.
User avatar #52 to #42 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
detroit has always been a black city, and before it went to **** , blacks owned most of the homes and had most of the jobs
#105 to #52 - jldragon (11/09/2013) [-]
I'm really not trying to agree with the racist guy here, but Detroit wasn't originally a "black city". When Ford and other motor companies started to offer jobs in Detroit many rural white Americans moved there to find work. As their socioeconomic status rose and the status of their children and grandchildren rose, a divide grew between them and incoming minorities that filled the positions they had started at.

Eventually the influx of these minorities taking over the cheaper, older housing areas caused the white and other upper class members to radiate out away from them. They moved slightly outside the cities and gave rise to "the suburbs" that we know today. Of course this same set of circumstances has affected more cities and areas than just detroit. The term for it is appropriately enough called "white flight".
User avatar #109 to #105 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
Well, yeah, I'm aware of Detroit's earlier history. By "always" I meant long before the crises that kickstarted the city's downfall, it was not meant to be literal.
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User avatar #53 to #52 - Shiny (11/09/2013) [-]
Also, apparently I forgot how capitalization works...
User avatar #7 - galgawine (11/08/2013) [-]
Looks like ********** U.S.A.
User avatar #115 - Eydrrup (11/09/2013) [-]
Why not take this horrendous looking city called Detroit and demolish all of it, and in it's place we create a utopian city with no crime or violence, far more technologically advanced than you could ever believe.

We'll name it, Delta City.
User avatar #107 - basicargentinian (11/09/2013) [-]
did zombies take over detroit?
#104 - dontknowme (11/09/2013) [-]
were those pictures from last week?
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