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#121 - jacobclabough (01/04/2014) [-]
#274 to #121 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
Nobody was supposed to know.
#270 to #121 - themongoose (01/04/2014) [-]
ms paint skills off the charts.
User avatar #280 to #270 - redstag (01/04/2014) [-]
actually thats not to bad..
#45 - haqq (01/03/2014) [-]
all the ******* that won't pay him...
#232 to #45 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
Once worked for a guy who did nearly 2 grand worth of work for a guy. 3 years after he did it he never saw a penny. Wasn't just him, about five other guys were stiffed on payments. Every time he called the office or sent their lawyer everyone was just connviently out to lunch or the office had moved.
User avatar #286 to #232 - blargheon (01/04/2014) [-]
WHAT?! I hope the ************ that did that is in jail.
#7 - kingsombra (01/03/2014) [-]
I think you'll find out soon enough that every job that requires you to talk to people sucks
I think you'll find out soon enough that every job that requires you to talk to people sucks
User avatar #81 to #7 - nustix (01/04/2014) [-]
I always tell people, I don't like people in general. Because they are ignorant and annoying (myself probably included in some area's) when I say this they look at me like I'm crazy I guess I should send them this.
User avatar #265 to #81 - cosmicapprentice (01/04/2014) [-]
Being a misanthrope I know how you feel.
User avatar #28 to #7 - theincorrigibleone (01/03/2014) [-]
>be me 20 years old
>work as an interpreter (not the language kind) at a state park
>my job is to talk to people, teach them, and lead activities (hikes, canoe trips, etc.)
>my job is ******* awesome because it's just having fun outside all day
Don't have a job where your only clients are people doing their job. Nobody is having fun and everybody wants to just go home because whenever you're talking it FEELS like work.
#119 to #28 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
You made me hate people less.

User avatar #244 to #7 - pokemonstheshiz (01/04/2014) [-]
I work at a decent steak house, I had a lady who once ordered the fillet mingnon
when it was brought to her, she told me she was very upset because she thought she ordered fish. I told her she had ordered the filet, and she said "yeah, the fish filet. Like at mcDonalds!"
I think people just always assume environments function the way they are accustomed to living, and are not understanding when that doesn't happen

#3 - iheartjackiechan (01/03/2014) [-]
I don't mind the "too stupid to understand how programming works" ones
but the "I'm not paying you" and "as long as it's free" ones really piss me off
User avatar #249 to #3 - Redzero (01/04/2014) [-]
I know what you mean I do Graphic Design/Graphic Communications at my school and this guy was looking for someone to create a website for him. I called him up and gave him the same $x/hour or one time payment of x for the end. I asked for a decent price, and he had the notion to tell me " I was hoping you could come in instead and work 2 weeks as a trial and maybe we can talk about payment.
User avatar #6 to #3 - sinery (01/03/2014) [-]
Guy isn't programming.
User avatar #19 to #6 - wheteverlol (01/03/2014) [-]
well building websites sometimes requires coding (whether or not that is programming is debatable though).
User avatar #272 to #19 - sergeantnovak (01/04/2014) [-]
I think the better words for all this are web building and graphic design
User avatar #37 to #19 - baaltomekk (01/03/2014) [-]
Depends. HTML -> no programming. PHP is sort of a grey zone. For me, it is in the no programming zone, but I know most of the people who use it see this differently.
If you write a webapplication in C#, possibly with MVC and Entity Framework, then you are programming for sure.
#46 to #37 - anon (01/03/2014) [-]
wannabe hardcore coder kiddie
#49 to #37 - anon (01/03/2014) [-]
i'd say you're overthinking the "can i call myself a programmer?" part
User avatar #82 to #49 - kagespiser (01/04/2014) [-]
well its true that HTML is not a programming language, but i dont agree with him on PHP, PHP is a programming language, its true that it is an abomination, but it is a programming language non the less. but i dont see the point in him starting to bring up frameworks, that makes no sense.

Have a nice day
#191 to #37 - trickstyle (01/04/2014) [-]
>web development

Hurr let me just compile a ******* website.
#297 to #191 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
>hurr, let me make dumbass assumptions

Native modules are damn near required in some places where server side scripting is going to underperform. With servers, ****** performance for convenience is -not- a professional option.

So yes, hurr durr, while you're at it, go link that website you wrote in pure SS to your asshole: I'm sure it's a piece of anyways.
User avatar #294 to #191 - asmodeu (01/04/2014) [-]
Technically you can do that.
Hell, you can generate a whole website using assembly code.
User avatar #229 to #37 - cabbagemayhem ONLINE (01/04/2014) [-]
PHP is a programming language, and so is JavaScript. Programming language is a definitive term, and can't be altered to exclude people you don't want to have the title.
User avatar #293 to #37 - asmodeu (01/04/2014) [-]
Bitch, true programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
#271 to #37 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
Programming a website is still programming.
It's higher level stuff (that's the phrase for "far from binary" right?), but you're still using code to create functions.
And websites can be complex.
#83 to #37 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
ASP comes straight from the gates of hell.
just use PHP, enough frameworks in PHP that support MVC..
#2 - draggonerify ONLINE (01/03/2014) [-]
I nearly got an heartattack because those 			*******		 are that stupid
I nearly got an heartattack because those ******* are that stupid
User avatar #26 to #2 - badgerbaiting (01/03/2014) [-]
This is such a majestic GIF.
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User avatar #69 to #2 - admiralen ONLINE (01/04/2014) [-]
letting go of anger is letting another person poison you and get away with it
User avatar #88 to #69 - balloketchup (01/04/2014) [-]
so holding onto it somehow doesn't let them get away with it? you missed the point of the gif bro
User avatar #301 to #88 - admiralen ONLINE (01/04/2014) [-]
only letting them get away with it if you dont do anything about it
User avatar #200 to #2 - onewithpokerface (01/04/2014) [-]
As someone going into graphic design and advertising, this is literally my future. ARGHHHHH.
#78 to #2 - unholyjebus (01/04/2014) [-]
I'm sorry but "an heartattack"?. If you're going to insult peoples intelligence, at least make sure that your grammar is correct.
#105 to #78 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
it is technically correct to use an before an 'h'...
#127 to #105 - imagebandetector (01/04/2014) [-]
Only when the "h" is silent. For example, saying "an honest mistake" would be correct, but not "an heart attack".
#135 to #105 - unholyjebus (01/04/2014) [-]
Only if the beginning of the word makes a vowel sound which doesn't happen in the word heart since it makes starts with a "huh" consonant sound. On the other hand, if you take the word "hour" then yes you would use "an" before since it starts with an "a" vowel sound. Whether you use a or an is all dependent on how the beginning of the word sound, despite the spelling of the word.
User avatar #124 to #78 - ilovehue (01/04/2014) [-]
found a client
#145 to #2 - anon (01/04/2014) [-]
Monkey, you can just the hell up, angry energy is the best energy. I've done the most important things in my life because I was angry. Granted, I said important and not beneficial but hey, good with the bad.

TL;DR I drink poison like energy drinks
User avatar #163 to #145 - chimpaflimp (01/04/2014) [-]
So, you didn't hold onto the anger then. You released your anger in one massive burst.
#231 to #2 - tornadomad (01/04/2014) [-]
You were so mad you developed a blockage in a main artery. Impressive.
#13 - pappathethird (01/03/2014) [-]
Here are some more
User avatar #243 to #13 - pokemonstheshiz (01/04/2014) [-]
the pink one could be legitimate if they have synesthesia or are talking about the artist Pink!
#66 - europe (01/04/2014) [-]
"Oh! Don't worry; that won't be necessary. We don't want you to actually bill for the extra hours, just work them.

Oh, silly me. Just let me spend my free time worki-
Who do these people think they are
Jesus christ
#34 - Ulmer (01/03/2014) [-]
User avatar #33 - braxtotxarb (01/03/2014) [-]
i need another comp. of this. This is too good
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User avatar #106 to #33 - drfreeman (01/04/2014) [-]
i made like a dozen or so of good one that i found about a year ago. you dont need to thumb them, just being helpful
User avatar #40 to #33 - nandaaz (01/03/2014) [-]
An endless comp:
User avatar #125 to #40 - ryderjbudde (01/04/2014) [-]
Can't you just copy it and paste it into my browser?
#113 - TreesyDoesIt (01/04/2014) [-]
I don't know a single thing about programming and I still feel mad as ****
#10 - nimithecat (01/03/2014) [-]
My boss used to be like this.
By the time I quit, I had thoughts of crushing his arms on the hydraulic press,
and still go to therapy to keep those kinds of thoughts out of my head.

That boss ****** up my head..
I REALLY did try to be patient. I really did.
User avatar #102 to #10 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
what'd he do?
#138 to #102 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN..... lemme tell you a short story about how I ended up like this...

****** smoked pot in the office, used the company computer that I work on to watch futanari porn when I'm not at work([i checked the browser history]
I brought my own keyboard and mouse ever since I found out), ****** made me run his god-damn company, I nearly got stabbed by his ******* pot dealer,
and the god-damn cunt-blasting cunt paid me at $8.25/hour wage AS A HYDRAULIC TECHNICIAN TRYING TO EARN MONEY TO KEEP FROM BEING HOMELESS.

I started thinking dark things, ******* dark things.
I was going to snap, and I had to get the hell out of there.

Ever since, I moved in with some friends, i used my savings for college tuition, and got a government pell grant to pay for the rest of my tuition plus books.

I alone boosted the company's profits up to 27%, increased its financial ranking by setting up business deals with other companies, and managed all of the financial paperwork with Quickbooks 2007.

As soon as I left, the company went to **** . The co-workers all left him one by one.
We didn't even follow OSHA standards and laws.
I looked up my old company's website; the website did not show up on Google anymore.
User avatar #147 to #138 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
Well is your mind back to normal-ish now?

and ouch..
User avatar #150 to #147 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Yeah mostly...
But my blood boils pretty quick when I get reminded of that jerk.

Other than that, I think everything else is back to normal.
Thanks for asking.
User avatar #175 to #150 - chimpaflimp (01/04/2014) [-]
Find a photo of his face, tape it to a punching bag and smash the **** out of it until you no longer feel angry towards the ****** .
User avatar #154 to #150 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
*of a job
User avatar #153 to #150 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
Hey, just be glad that his ass is out of the job now.
User avatar #156 to #153 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Yep. Good riddens.
User avatar #157 to #156 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
so whatchu been up to?
User avatar #164 to #157 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
How's life?
User avatar #166 to #164 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
alrights i guess

i should be workin right now
User avatar #169 to #166 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Ah alright, i'll let you get back to it.
Nice talkin' to you man.
User avatar #172 to #169 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
im procrastinating though
User avatar #174 to #172 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Sooner or later you'll get that dream job someday.
When that happens, procrastination will be a thing of the past.
User avatar #194 to #174 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
though eventually, as i continue to have interest in my job, i wont have the issue.
User avatar #185 to #174 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
Not for me, i've had this problem at a severe level since 3rd grade.
User avatar #202 to #185 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
hm, good point. Carry on
User avatar #234 to #202 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
not good for me though :c
#160 to #157 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Meh, college.

The good thing about being poor, is that you can get financial aid to cover your college tuition for free. So I'm going for a 2 year degree in multimedia tech, and electronic engineering.

<--- one of my latest works in 3D.

Been mastering the art of 3d on the side.
User avatar #247 to #160 - gamerkill (01/04/2014) [-]
Just wanted to say, that looks awesome.
Keep up good work man
User avatar #254 to #247 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Thanks man.
Your encouragement is much appreciated, and I will make more in the near future.
Here's an animation of mine as a "thank you".

-COMPLETE- Silver Knights Anime Openning Sequence -COMPLETE- TRIBUTE TO TESHIMA
User avatar #255 to #254 - gamerkill (01/04/2014) [-]
That was awesome, I'd love to see more
User avatar #257 to #255 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
You got it pal.
I'm going to get off my lazy butt,
and start making more right away.
User avatar #258 to #257 - gamerkill (01/04/2014) [-]
Are you dusty howard
User avatar #259 to #258 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Also known as Helldiver450 in various places.

User avatar #260 to #259 - gamerkill (01/04/2014) [-]
Sweet, I subscribed
User avatar #165 to #160 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
awesome, i hope ya go far.
User avatar #167 to #165 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Thanks man, same to you.
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#132 to #126 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
You need to login to view this link

Here's the website, ladies and gents.
Ever since I left the company, it crumbled to the ground within months.

This is what happens when ungrateful people rely too much on others.
User avatar #268 to #132 - cosmicapprentice (01/04/2014) [-]
I found another one with almost the same URL You need to login to view this link
User avatar #269 to #268 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Yeah.. similar name, but not the company i was referring to.
User avatar #140 to #126 - miscarriage (01/04/2014) [-]
Futa is pretty ok
User avatar #143 to #140 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
Thats not the point. My point is he slathered his crotch-stunken hands all over a keyboard that the company uses, that his employees use..
User avatar #144 to #143 - miscarriage (01/04/2014) [-]
He was probably decent enough to disinfect the area, right? :^)
User avatar #146 to #144 - nimithecat (01/04/2014) [-]
He missed a spot, which led me to check the history...
User avatar #36 to #10 - bagguhsleep ONLINE (01/03/2014) [-]
Let it all out, man. I'm here.
User avatar #155 to #36 - garymotherfingoak (01/04/2014) [-]
thank ye for tryin
#261 - droner (01/04/2014) [-]
m(internal)fw reading these
#242 - pokemonstheshiz (01/04/2014) [-]
does that font come in a slightly darker black?
User avatar #128 to #77 - Marker ONLINE (01/04/2014) [-]
Isn't that what YouTube used to do.....
#288 to #128 - ideae (01/04/2014) [-]
But you could rate videos, not people. Granted, most people did probably rate videos by the looks (or talents) of the people in them.
#116 to #77 - nexdemise (01/04/2014) [-]
Actually I'd love to see that guy homeless.
User avatar #43 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
Freelance game designing...
"I have this awesome idea for a game : " (explains huge political world, conflicts, characters, etc. all relatively good).
"Ok, so what would the graphics, sound, and gameplay be like?"
"... I hadn't thought about that."
"... So why do you need it to be a game if the gameplay doesn't matter to you?"
It's happened like 5 times now.
User avatar #53 to #43 - zdawg (01/03/2014) [-]
I'm actually going to school for video game design right now, and the CS department has a 50% drop rate, and I'm almost certain that at least 25-40% of those who drop are either kids who come in thinking "IMA MAKE VIDEOGAMES BECAUSE I CAN DRAW ANIME!" or kids who come in with great ideas, but no diligence to ACTUALLY learn how to program
User avatar #55 to #53 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
Self taught.
If you ever work for people, realize the 2 kinds of people you will work with:
The people who's idea works better for a novel than a game, and
"I want it to be innovative".
Good luck man, programming can actually be really boring.
User avatar #201 to #55 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Reply limit reached.
It's been 1 year and 3 months. That is learned java. Applied is more like 3 months.
That is my problem. With so much **** going around i never got around to actually apply the theory to work. So While I do have most of syntax and rules in my head I got nothing in my FINGERS if you know what I mean.
I still don't have time to code properly. Well that will change soon.
What about you? How long and how much?
User avatar #203 to #201 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Last 3 years with Java, most of it applied. I've really loved it. I haven't produced much, and I tried hiring out myself to little avail (see above). I'm working on mastering LWJGL and I basically just need a concept to work out for a game that I can make and not lose hope on.
User avatar #205 to #203 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Bro how old are you and are you in college?
User avatar #206 to #205 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Not in college yet, 15.
User avatar #208 to #206 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
10/10 pretty good (assuming you are telling the truth, this is THE INTERNET after all).
18 in college. Trust me when I say some teachers and classes are full of bs.
Had Game programing as a subject... It was quite pointless. We just copy pasted his code and got 100% and an A.
Now then are you from USA?
User avatar #209 to #208 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Yup. Also I don't plan on ever taking a programming class, if I ever do any classes like that I'd do a computer science degree (apparently, computer science degrees sound really good in an application, and you can actually learn useful information).
User avatar #213 to #209 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
I am a Freshman in Computer Science, bachelor degree in science.
Welcome to world of work and you would appear to have gotten a better start than me.
You know html 5 and java? Good you are fit to be a web dev.
As for the degree, well this was one of selective classes for the CS degree. No joke.
You have mandatory classes like Object Oriented Programing, Computer Structure etc. And some required hours in electives. Since I am an immigrant trying to find a job in USA I opted out to take all of the electives in CS. I do mean all of them. Advantage is well it looks good on a resume and diploma. Downside is you are stuck in a boring class that doesn't teach you a thing.

I do recommend a CS degree since you do love coding.
Want some tips for getting into college?
User avatar #214 to #213 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Sure, I'll take anything that will help me. My older brother's trying to get in and from what I hear, it's a horrific mess.
User avatar #222 to #214 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
*note that SAT I took...

Work. Yes actually work on campus for school administration. This helps a whole bunch since people know you and are willing to help out.

My most dreaded option. Sports scholarships... *sigh* These pay good but only if you are good since they will more or less make you work every day. Get up at 5:30 to train go to classes and then train some more.

And... hmm I seem to have forgotten some things... eff it.
Last thing I do remember using is

That web page will help you a lot with looking up unis.
If I think of anything else I will post it.
User avatar #223 to #222 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Dude, thanks a lot! I'll try and remember this.
Also, I guess it helps that I'm really good with math (probably because of programming) and already own advanced calculators. Well, best of wishes with game dev and life, hope to talk to you again some time.
User avatar #225 to #223 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
You too man. Good luck to you and your brother.
User avatar #221 to #214 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Liberal Arts VS Technical universities.
Debate is complete bs. Yes one offers more rounded education and makes you a better person while the other will scrutinize you and make you ready for work.
Both are missing a piece of each other. So know this, when somebody is trying to persuade you into one or other just take a step out of their propaganda and look much does **** actually cost and how much money would each uni give you.

I can't help you in Private vs Public universities since I am forced by US law to be in a private uni.

Oh a SAT score of 1600 and up will land you a good scholarship. (Not that SAT I took is newer with up to 2400 points).

Prepare all the paper work. I am not joking about this one. Get your school certificates and get you things signed. Some may even let you with partial grades so you can apply early. Some classes from high school can transfer credit to uni so that is less classes to take.

FAFSA. For the live of god since you are an American apply for government aid. So much scholarships and I can't have any.
Apply for financial aid at your uni.
One more post incoming.
User avatar #218 to #214 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Okay since I am a foreigner, my requirements are higher so you have an edge since you are a citizen.
Both are good for getting into but ACT has four areas (Language, math, science and something else) to cover while SAT has 2 and a half (English reading, writing and Math).
Now then Math is on both college level. So I really do hope you brother knows his Algebra and some Calculus. My advice, before they get banned, the calculators; you should buy them. TI-84 is his best friend if he learns how to use it (you and your brother).
You Americans have something as advanced math or A level math. You might want to take it. It makes things easier.
A good score helps a lot. I had 1720. That landed me 9 grand in scholarships. This really depends on university.
Hold on for next post.
User avatar #56 to #55 - zdawg (01/03/2014) [-]
Lol, thanks. I just passed one of the biggest and toughest classes, the one that once you pass you get instant respect from all the teachers and students, and pretty much solidifies you the title "Programmer". What do you program in?
User avatar #67 to #56 - eearslya (01/04/2014) [-]
Out of curiosity, exactly what would that class be?
User avatar #151 to #67 - zdawg (01/04/2014) [-]
CSCI 330, Object Oriented Programming
User avatar #58 to #56 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
Java, I've been doing it for a few years now and I just really love how the language works, especially given that more recently it's gotten even more efficient. I've also been using LWJGL with it, which, if you don't know, is an OpenGL implementation and I absolutely love it.
User avatar #59 to #58 - zdawg (01/03/2014) [-]
Nice! So a fellow object oriented programmer. My buddy and I ware actually going to be looking into learning java on our own, at least a little bit.
User avatar #61 to #59 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
Java's really good, and it's OOP implementation is excellent. It's also got really good threading implementation. It doesn't have much "syntax sugar", but hey, it's still a very solid engine that allows you to write once and play anywhere.
Also, the only experience I have with non-OOP languages is with JavaScript (heh, heh).
Just remember to look up tutorials for art and sound - the only way I can motivate myself to do a project that I started on my own is to have it look or sound half decent.
User avatar #159 to #61 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Gentlemen. You seem to have caught my interest.
I am at cross roads between Java and C#.
I am thinking of learning HTML and HTML 5 with Java script, however should I add PHP or something else to this list?
User avatar #171 to #159 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Here's my 2 cents on web dev (based on what little I've done with it)
HTML 5 + Javascript is basically the most you need. Javascript is pretty good, but it's variable systems confuse an OOP dev such as myself. HTML 5 is like a foundation, and Javascript is like a building if that makes even a lick of sense. If you plan on doing web dev, definitely invest in those 2.
Also you may be confusing Java and Javascript, which are 2 completely different languages.
User avatar #177 to #171 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Also I know the core difference between the two.
Java is well actual java that is object oriented programing like C#.
I actually made a somewhat good project for high school.
And Java script is a very toned down version for web. Still strong if you know how to utilize it but not enough to make a whole program.
User avatar #179 to #177 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Javascript has no relationship with Java at all. Completely different, made by different groups.
Anyhow, HTML 5 and Javascript are both web languages, and I've seen them both be used to make very good games. You don't necessarily have to be a web dev to use them, but you do have to make them run on a website.
User avatar #180 to #179 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
You may thank my CS teacher in American private college.
At least I am out of the ******** my country is.
Anyway how much significance does flash play in web dev?
User avatar #181 to #180 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Well, you can make games and presentations with it using SWF files. Most web editors allow you to integrate them into the page. They are limited, however, by being restricted to a certain area on the webpage.
User avatar #183 to #181 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
So on scale 1 to 10 how important is flash in web dev?
User avatar #186 to #183 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Honestly I can't really say. It's really important for game dev on the web, but not really for web dev itself. 1, but flash is still very useful, and I advise you try using it for some game dev. In terms of actual web dev JS and HTML 5 are the go-tos.
User avatar #187 to #186 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Hmmm. I see. They since you are a free lance game maker, it makes me wonder.
What do you think of pre built engines like UDK, RPG Maker, Game maker etc.?
User avatar #190 to #187 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
I think that they are great tools to learn how game dev works and a good way to get a portfolio going, but are ultimately weaker than more complicated things like coding by yourself. I myself started on Game Maker, and that's how I learned to code. I think that tools like that should be encouraged for beginners.
User avatar #193 to #190 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Great tools but cost money. Well I got off damage free with steam same for RPG Maker ACE.
While it is good they are providing you with some tools, you are still right as it is not a full fledged programing (minus UDK).
Which reminds me I had some demo version of Gamer maker (6 or 4 was it) it was pretty much empty. What about it now? What about it appeals to you?
User avatar #196 to #193 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
I haven't used it since 8 but it had lots of features which I liked.
I liked the system of rooms and objects, and it's image editors is one of the best around. Also I liked how it handled plugins. My favorite feature, overall, is that you can actually script in a text editor using a fully fledged language. That was how I really learned how to do programming.
User avatar #197 to #196 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Well at least you are not paying college to teach you nothing.
Have you heard about ?
That's how I learned my Java.
User avatar #199 to #197 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Same here.
Absolutely loved him, he's a great teacher.
How long have you been doing Java?
User avatar #173 to #171 - alphabetagama (01/04/2014) [-]
Umm Bro I am not a web dev. Webpages are not my thing but... It would appear that they gain the most money when it comes to getting hired.
User avatar #63 to #61 - zdawg (01/03/2014) [-]
Right, OOP is a lot easier for java anyway, for C++ you have to make objects that are named the same virtual if you want them to be called separately
#210 to #43 - prancingkid (01/04/2014) [-]
(TLR: Pic related, I'm an idiot)

I had to log in to confess my sins.

Since like grade 9 I wanted to be a game designer. I had my school picked out, had six thousand dollars saved from my part-time job. Went all the way through high school, just doodling, writing and just shoving it all in a big binder(s) there may have been like five. Got an interview with the school after high school, drove for three hours and took a ferry, met the teachers and explored the studios. I was rockin' it man.

But then, when I asked one of the professers there what he thought of my drawing he looked it over and smiled. I said that it was for a game idea. He looked at me and said, "Let me've got a lot of these." He was right. He kinda sighed at that and handed me back my drawing. After that, I just...

Since then I've given up the dream, decided to work more on writing but to this day I resent all the time I spent in my life dreaming about something I didn't even want. I am that guy and I'm sorry.

I am so sorry.
User avatar #212 to #210 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
Dude it's all cool. Programming is really tedious, and not enough people understand certain vital concepts. A lot of people think too little about the elements of a game, and instead think of the story. Sure, stories are cool, but it's not enough.
When you make a movie, you have to consider the visual style, the characters, the music, the sound, the direction, the pacing, etc. With games, you also have to add gameplay to that list.
I think that it's good you moved on to something else, and if you seriously regret it, it's easier now than ever before to learn game dev - for free, even! I'm just glad you owned up to it. Everyone's wanted to write a book, everyone's wanted to direct a movie - everyone's wanted to make a game, it's just a creative part of human nature.
#216 to #212 - prancingkid (01/04/2014) [-]
Thank you.   
that was beautiful
Thank you.

that was beautiful
User avatar #219 to #216 - zzforrest (01/04/2014) [-]
It's all good. The unfortunate truth is that we are all so full of ideas that we want someone else to do - but we sit down and realize it's so difficult. Your head is so teeming with ideas, but so many are unfeasable. My advise is to break it down. I had so many ideas and it took me too long to realize that they were all the same story, just with slight changes. What you should do is look for what you want to express, and how you can express it. What is the feeling you are trying to get across? What medium will you use to express it? When you decide these, think about every element of a medium. For example, drawings and art have style, proportion, perspective, color, etc. Games have art, sound, music, and game play. The list goes on. Go through every element and think of how it can express the idea. It all comes together, and when you finish - you will have created something great.
User avatar #47 to #43 - vanillabeartwo (01/03/2014) [-]
That's a fairly good argument on their part..gameplay could easily make or break the game.
User avatar #48 to #47 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
I'm the freelance game designer.
I'm the one asking why they hadn't considered the gameplay.
Sorry if that confused you.
#50 to #48 - vanillabeartwo (01/03/2014) [-]
Yep my bad.   
At least I was on your side.
Yep my bad.
At least I was on your side.
User avatar #51 to #50 - zzforrest (01/03/2014) [-]
It's all good mate.
#245 - waspssuckforever (01/04/2014) [-]
<--- MFW I finished reading those
User avatar #71 - akkere ONLINE (01/04/2014) [-]
The people who don't want to pay him outright are the worst kind of people. Especially when they expect you to these impossible tasks in an even more impossible time frame.
They're pretty much the type to to free load as much as they can, even if it involves scamming someone from their life's work. It's one thing to try to haggle down a price for a commission so it might be more affordable, it's another thing to completely devalue someone's labor, especially if its of genuine quality (I'll admit I don't know about the OP's quality of design, but I doubt you'd get this many clients if it wasn't at least slightly good).
User avatar #238 - tiredofthis (01/04/2014) [-]
The one that got me was "We don't want yo to BILL for the overtime, just WORK it."

I would never have believed that, until I actually got a job.
User avatar #30 - SognaVetr (01/03/2014) [-]
I'm a freelance web designer too but i've never had idiotic clients like these.
User avatar #38 to #30 - mutzaki (01/03/2014) [-]
Hey could you do an impossible and stupid thing for me but without me having to pay you? I want it done within the next half hour.

I popped your cherry.
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