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Demo Talks About Lolicon

 

This is the full video. The rest are clips I pulled for my commenting use. I thought you might want them.
Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc








I "made" these for my own use from the video. They might be useful.

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#133 - ugakicka [OP](06/18/2015) [+] (1 reply)
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Damn, this unleashed a ********* I didn't know was possible. I just thought the video was funny. I like lolis, but I don't want to stick my dick in them.
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#4 - anon (06/17/2015) [-]
I know it's a Morally black area I tread. I know there is something very wrong with me. I could go and try and "Fix" myself with therapy, but I don't want to risk being sent to jail. I have seen TWO lolicons/paedophiles get sent to prison after seeing a psychiatrist because they were a "Danger to the community" even though they were actively seeking help. I am trying to better myself but it's so difficult without having someone that I can talk to and can support me as I try to fix myself. there is literally no one I can turn too for help without being ousted as some sort of demon in human skin.
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#123 to #4 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
I wouldn't worry broski. I have the same attraction as well but it never interferes with my day to day life. There is no reason to "fix" yourself with therapy. Best thing you can do is not stress over it and you'll forget about it. As long as if you don't plan on doing anything remotely questionable in real life you should be fine. There are more important things to be stressed about like where the **** is my god damn tablet.
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User avatar #23 to #4 - cleomech (06/17/2015) [-]
You obviously are so deep in social introversion that words can't help your case.
Sorry dude, you're on your own here. But, if it's any consolation, it's not entirely your fault. A large portion of media subliminally and/or unintentionally encourages pedophilia, just like anime undertones. The first step would probably be to look for something else to pry away your attention from loli vagoos.
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#73 to #23 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
>A large portion of media subliminally and/or unintentionally encourages pedophilia

Prove it. This just sounds like more "rape culture" ******** .
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User avatar #136 to #73 - cleomech (06/18/2015) [-]
I don't know man, when it comes to anime proof of pedophilia is just redundant. As for every other form of media there's the fact of it being subliminal so yes, most of it is down to speculation.
But, if you really want something tangible to incorporate into some sort of proof, I'd urge you to read Jason Lee's "Celebrities, Pedophilia and Ideology in American Culture".
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User avatar #24 to #23 - cleomech (06/17/2015) [-]
Or, I guess you could just accept the fact that you're a sick individual wile doing nothing about it and ultimately destroy yourself in the long run.
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User avatar #50 to #4 - lilRican (06/18/2015) [-]
Its not that theres something wrong with you

you were just dealt a ****** hand in the sexuality/fetish area
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#18 to #4 - isonig (06/17/2015) [-]
Don't worry it's not lolicon if they're actually 100 years old. ;)
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#112 to #18 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
You're still a sicko, 100 years old or no
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#137 to #112 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
What, from thoughtcrime?
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#44 to #4 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
There's nothing to worry about dude.
Keep it to yourself and don't allow it to become real and you'll be perfectly fine.

Though, if you must, I suggest a slow weening off process, find another kind of porn you like, and focus on that, build on that sexual trait, and slowly replace the loli with it over time, look to eventually have no lolicon in your folders or whatever, and then just continue avoiding it best you can, if you suffer a relapse don't worry about it, take a breath and start the process of weening off it again.

I suggest this option because the way the world is going eventually it'll be illegal everywhere and a huge witch hunt will begin, which is horrible considering just how easy this stuff is to get hold of, there will be a lot of innocent harmless people taken to jail.
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#93 to #4 - jojoexplain (06/18/2015) [-]
Pfft bruh don't try that **** . I've been a dedicated lolicon for over 4 years now. I've had multiple search and seizures from computer repair places and i was nearly arrested for it. Has that stopped me? Not even a little bit. Why, you ask? It's only a morally black area if you see it as such. This has very little to do with your fetish, this is you thinking you are a disgusting person and a menace to society and the truth is you're not. All you actually do is watch drawn underage porno on the internet. The reason child molesters are a menace to society is because they possess real child pornography, or they are actively pursuing children on the streets. As far as i can tell, you've done none of that. Loli is a no harm no foul area. Sure people think it's strange, but who ****** cares? You're not telling anyone but us about it, it's your own thing. Who's getting hurt from this? Who are you harming with this? The answer is yourself, because in your mind you perceive that you are somehow doing harm to someone because of this. Unless you feel like you wanna go out and diddle some kids right now, you ain't got **** wrong with you. But hey, if it bothers you and you feel bad, hit me up on Skype or here man, just talk to a bruthu for a while, yknow? Live your life man, stop thinking you doin bad when you just doin you.
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#6 to #4 - anon (06/17/2015) [-]
My fetish is going around naked in public, and pissing on stuff.
I have never ran around nude in public, and I only piss in appropriate places.

Ooh big deal, you like your drawn erotica in the form of little kids getting railed.
As long as you keep your sick lifestyle and disturbing thoughts private, no harm done.

You don't need help, you need to shut the **** up, get behind some proxies, and browse all the animated kiddy fiddling you want online.

You only live this life once, it's too short to let someone **** with your sick hobbies, you sick monster.
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#14 to #6 - anon (06/17/2015) [-]
That was...... so wrong, yet so right...
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#16 - thefates (06/17/2015) [-]
I don't disagree that it's a morally dark area. What I DO disagree with is the notion some people have that they believe it should be punishable. There is not victim in the altercation and disgust at another person's interest should never be a valid reason for issue. The idea that loli is wrong is relatively excepted (even among most people who enjoy loli). What's not acceptable is the fact that there are those who would ban or outright arrest people for enjoying it. There's no true basis for it besides pandering to the moral obligations of others or the classic "enjoying deviant things means increased likelihood of doing deviant things" (despite no evidence to support it). Just look at the issues that surround "violent video-games" and how they "increase violence". Sure I would bash someones head in whilst playing GTA but no reasonable person would do it in real life.
Violent acts are committed by insane or unstable people regardless of medium.

I get what Demo's saying here but I would have to disagree that there's something inherently BAD with loli. It's just not morally in tune with what most people can enjoy.
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#150 to #16 - thefates (06/19/2015) [-]
Wow demastrix, you're a day late.
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User avatar #40 to #16 - sefercil (06/18/2015) [-]
no, they shouldn't be jailed or punished. but i don't think they should indulge in something so tricky and slippery. sometimes people seem totally stable and sane, but then they start doing things that harm others or break laws. no, their desires should not be punishable, but they shouldn't expect acceptance or support by a society that overall does not approve of the very idea of what they are doing.

if the rest of society says they don't want those people involved in that society because they are being what they think is immoral, then according to that society, it is bad. humans make up their own rules, and morality is based on a lot of emotion. so though you may not think it is bad, other will, according to the morality of the society the topic is being addressed in. that is the definition of morality. it is defined by the community. their can be morals that clash, traditions that clash, but an individual society decides if it is bad, according to those involved in that society. so in this society, it is immoral. wrong. bad. (i'm going by definition, yo. not emotion)
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User avatar #42 to #40 - thefates (06/18/2015) [-]
That's what I'm saying. You can't stop them from doing it even if you may not encourage it. However, they, as a community will certainly not discourage others.

This means of course that you would have to make it illegal which once more delves in to the fact that there's no basis for making it illegal besides the moral obligations that some people feel urged to pursue.
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User avatar #29 to #16 - sladee ONLINE (06/17/2015) [-]
Oh hey i'm reading that manga right now
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User avatar #77 to #29 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Too bad it never updates.
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User avatar #79 to #77 - sladee ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
So it's another Berserker?
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User avatar #80 to #79 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Give or take. The last chapter released on bato.to was back in November.
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User avatar #82 to #80 - sladee ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
So it is another Berserk.
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User avatar #83 to #82 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Sure then
I'm still only 27 chapters in.
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User avatar #84 to #83 - sladee ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
at chapter 106, i started yesterday 3 hours before going to sleep
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User avatar #85 to #84 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
I'm balls deep is so much anime and visual novels that I haven't found the time to catch up on manga. I'm still trying to get caught up with Jitsu wa Watashi wa.
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User avatar #86 to #85 - sladee ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Recommend good VNs bruh?
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User avatar #89 to #86 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
I've got a couple of others I heard that were good but haven't gotten around to.
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User avatar #88 to #86 - synchron ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Bruh.

Grisaia no Kajitsu My favorite
Kamidori Alchemy Mesiter
Sekien no Inganock and/or Shikkoku no Sharnoth
Fate/Stay Night
Majikoi

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User avatar #92 to #88 - sladee ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Already read 3 of those
Grisaia no Kajitus, Fate/Stay night along with Fate/Hollow ataraxia and Majikoi.
i'll check the other two
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User avatar #152 to #77 - sladee ONLINE (06/20/2015) [-]
I BAER NEWS
The raw for I am a hero have been updated up to chapter 204, it's the translations that stopped
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User avatar #57 to #29 - thefates (06/18/2015) [-]
It's pretty great. I need to get back to it and see if it surpassed where it last ended and I left off.
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#39 to #16 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
I feel like one of Demo's arguments is the slippery slope one too, like I feel at a certain point in the video he's trying to imply that allowing this mindset that lolicon is okay will cause the notion of pedophilia to become okay.
Which is of course wrong too.

It's like if someone was to enjoy scat porn, is it gross? Hell yes it is, ******* disgusting, but it's no ones right to say they can't view it, because there is no victim in it, and there is no proof that deviance leads to more deviance like it's some sort of gateway thing.
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User avatar #15 - theuglyginger (06/17/2015) [-]
"thinking about something is as dangerous as doing it"
Good thing we think the same thing about violence in video games
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#49 to #15 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
Open the source video, it has a big red note attached to it. Faggot OP forgot to include it.
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User avatar #134 to #49 - ugakicka [OP](06/18/2015) [-]
Why the **** would I include a ****** youtube annotation that interferes with the first 15 seconds of the video? Go away, hotdog.
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#138 to #134 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
The ******* note clearly says "WHOOPS MY BAD, THIS VIDEO IS DUMB, FULL OF CONTRADICTORY **** , AND IT DOESN'T REPRESENT MY OPINION ". You're reposting this ****** old video, that was discredited by it's own author, just to stir some **** up and get some pinkies.
Fagmaster.
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User avatar #148 to #138 - ugakicka [OP](06/18/2015) [-]
I just posted it because it gave me a hearty chuckle and because I saw potential for webm clips that I can use for commenting. No other reason.
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User avatar #97 to #15 - demented ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
I think there's a difference when it's a sexual fetish sort of thing.
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#105 to #15 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
it's the same as making racist jokes and being surprised when you bring around actual racist people. Sure loli doesn't harm anyone but when you develop a fetish for underage children who are drawn, I wouldn't be shocked if you had a fetish for 3d kids too.
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User avatar #109 to #105 - zioken (06/18/2015) [-]
I would. Being frank a drawn 2D kid in an anime style looks absolutely nothing like a kid in real life. Unless you already had a thing for real kids I can't see how you could transition from something that looks nothing like the other.
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#143 to #109 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
people don't start watching porn with weird fetishes, they see something they like and it becomes a fetish. you can't tell me 14 yr old boys who know nothing about sex won't develop a fetish for say pegging if they repeatedly jack off to it.
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User avatar #151 to #143 - zioken (06/19/2015) [-]
Not all fetishes drawn translate the same into real life either. If a 14 yr old read hentai that featured pegging, I would be surprised if he felt like he wanted to get ****** ass because fetishes don't require participation in them.

As an example look at incest. It's a real taboo thing for obvious reasons but alot of people still whack off to it, me included. However simply because I find incest to be hot when in a drawn environment it doesn't mean I'm going to look for family night videos, and sure as hell doesn't mean I find any of my own family members attractive.

If they do develop a fetish for something they find in hentai I expect it to remain in hentai unless they previously had the fetish for 3D as well and were just looking for another source of material.
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#58 to #15 - madcoww (06/18/2015) [-]
**madcoww used "*roll picture*"**
**madcoww rolled image** Or BDSM
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#17 to #15 - isonig (06/17/2015) [-]
^This.
I saw a postman kick a dog once, so i briefly imagined strangling him. By demo's logic i should be in prison for assault.
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User avatar #20 to #15 - HenrikVIII (06/17/2015) [-]
Oh god...
He never even implied that it's as bad as ******* kids, but it is bad. Nobody is concerned about you going out raping children after you watch a single loli infused anime. His problem is that it is becoming somewhat acceptable to be attracted to children as long as they are 2D and that sends a doublesided message. To some it means: "This is wrong, i know it's wrong, so i can only enjoy it drawn." and that side of the argument is fine. Not the best case scenario, but i cant make you not think stuff, so **** it. The other side is a problem. The people who watch this and make themselves believe that this is fine. Other people are watching this, other people are drawing this, this is normal, this is natural, people just dont understand my love. Of course that still might not create an active pedophile. But it just might. Just some support might give him the foundation he/she needs to go forward with his/hers needs. And that is very alarming. That there is a whole culture out there kinda supporting attraction to small children. That is insane to me. Also the comparison to video games is good, but not quite. We as a civilisation are slowly, but surely, distancing ourselves from violence. We are ok with violence as long as its caricatured like gta where it's obvious why that scenario cant be. The more realistic the depiction of violence is the more uncomfortable it becomes. If you saw someone getting really exited over the act of actually murdering someone in great detail in game and not over the freedom it gives you, you would back away slowly. And with lolis it's somehow supposed to be fine
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User avatar #37 to #20 - sefercil (06/18/2015) [-]
that was a great argument. hot damn.

little story. i know of a pedophile who got caught. he was even training to become a police officer. had a thing for underage girls in general. (the technical term of pedophile may not apply to him, but there is a term that definitely does apply, and it addresses people attracted to those whom haven't even gone through or started puberty. he was one of them). this guy had his desires, which whatever, i can't stop that, but he pushed the line till it snapped. he got caught after a house raid that involved me and the others living there getting guns pointed at us and handcuffs put on us. plus the busted door, that he didn't even pay to fix (his mom did). it's scary to think this dude who tried to convince young and outright naive girls to experiment or have sex with him could have been a police officer, someone who was supposed to protect others from people like him. that's why i don't think it's a desire that shouldn't be indulged in. because those people are capable of getting power, influence, and quite frankly, they may touch other people's kids without justice. this case wasn't entirely like that, but it happens all the time.

there are healthier ways of dealing with your human desires, ways that take into account not only your safety, respect and health, but others involved in the same community, society and civilization as you. i'm not saying i can come up with them, but that doesn't meant it's cool to just say **** it and keep doing things that may **** things up for anyone, including yourself.

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User avatar #147 to #37 - adu ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
pedophilia
[ped-uh-fil-ee-uh or, esp. British, pee-duh-]
noun, Psychiatry.
1.sexual desire in an adult for a child.

The word you're looking for is still pedophile. It is a technical term, but that's it's technical definition. Ephebophilia is the term for being attracted to people of mid to late adolescence, possibly below the legal age.
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#127 to #20 - pentol (06/18/2015) [-]
so? a call to keep the sexual and the non-sexual loli seperated? either it's blatantly porn, fine. if it is not porn, don't sexualized it and blur the line? it sounds like a healthy approach, if you can find a way to implement it that doesn't involve censorship or self-censorship.
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User avatar #128 to #127 - HenrikVIII (06/18/2015) [-]
No, that wouldn't solve anything. Censorship is a **** tool. Some kind of disclamer or something, i dunno... It should be made clear in some way why it's wrong. Like cigaretes.
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#48 - thunderpony (06/18/2015) [-]
Want a snack? Here's a small.
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#45 - Silver Quantum ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
so kids meals are used to **** kids. gotcha
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#119 to #21 - scorpiom ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
You need help.
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#72 to #21 - theshimmy (06/18/2015) [-]
sauce for background music? some vault dweller ass in return
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User avatar #90 to #72 - jvizzlez (06/18/2015) [-]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfGWSCEQHSA

skip to 9:21

I can't believe you don't know Parappa the Rappa
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#126 to #10 - pentol (06/18/2015) [-]
stalking can be frightening, even threatening. that's no way to treat a kid.
keep it on the internet.
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#2 - ganondork (06/17/2015) [-]
loli's for cute, not for lewd
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User avatar #7 to #2 - vorarephilia (06/17/2015) [-]
Loli is for hug, not for fug.
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#135 to #74 - ugakicka [OP](06/18/2015) [-]
I know there were some red thumbs, but honestly, how did they expect you to not use that picture?
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#63 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Doomonyou, chaoticlaw, vukvalentine, and mrpeep all disliked this video because to deny them of loli ******* is to deny them of their rights.
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#95 to #63 - syrianbro (06/18/2015) [-]
******* lolicon faggots?


Will you believe those cocksuckers?

Crazy faggots
hahahahaha...ha..ha
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User avatar #98 to #95 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
>Implying you don't **** Loli squids.
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#99 to #98 - syrianbro (06/18/2015) [-]
I don't do such a thing

I make love to those creatures.v
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User avatar #100 to #99 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Loli squids a **** .
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#101 to #100 - syrianbro (06/18/2015) [-]
SHUT YOUR ******* MOUTH
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User avatar #102 to #101 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Absolute ****

Asami a perfect
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User avatar #146 to #98 - squids (06/18/2015) [-]
well i mean
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#64 to #63 - chaoticlaw (06/18/2015) [-]
I didn't downthumb it! I just didn't agree with it, is all.
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User avatar #65 to #64 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Amathyst is not for ******* and pearl is worst waifu.
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#66 to #65 - chaoticlaw (06/18/2015) [-]
Christ, the heresy coming out of your mouth is nauseating.
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User avatar #67 to #66 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
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#68 to #67 - chaoticlaw (06/18/2015) [-]
Amethyst = *******








Pearl = Dream wife
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User avatar #69 to #68 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
Both worst gems and worst waifu

Jasper and Asami are a best. One to Snu Snu me and one for me to do Bukkae facials to.
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User avatar #70 to #69 - chaoticlaw (06/18/2015) [-]
Knowing the personalities of both, confuses me as to which does which.
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User avatar #87 to #70 - murrlogic ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
I want Jasper to dominate me

I want to cum on Asami's face and have her dominate me harder
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#52 - yodaddysofat ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
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#43 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
Demo argues his points well but he really isn't making a good case against it, just because an argument sounds good guys and you agree with it doesn't make it true exactly.
He's using so many logical fallacies.
He argues slippery slope with the idea that allowing the mindset of it being okay in 2D may cause it to slide into being okay for 3D to some people.
He also is kind of playing on some kind of moral obligation that it shouldn't be allowed despite there being no victim in it, everyone agrees it's wrong when it's real so why would we allow it in fictional form?
Well, because we allow literally every other crime when it's fiction, you can depict the most graphic and sadistic of violence in drawn or story form and no one thinks this is an issue, people are fine with bragging that they love violence and gore in movies, no one jumps to the conclusion that something is wrong with them.
Doesn't mean he will enjoy it when it's real.

Like he tried to discredit those arguments by getting them out into the air, as if that means you can't use them anymore and they're invalid, they're perfectly valid arguments, it's not real, there are no victims and just because they like the drawings doesn't mean they want it IRL, so where is the problem? There isn't one.
He mentions that this will just allow people to tell themselves that it's okay to be a pedophile, but the thing is, if someone employs that kind of mentality they're already an unstable person as is, this person isn't indicative of this kind of stuff, it's indicative that this person has mental issues and needs help.
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#53 to #43 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
are you defending lol? you weeb cunt.
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User avatar #107 to #43 - hoponthefeelstrain (06/18/2015) [-]
slippery slope does happen though, gays became accepted, then transgender people, now we're battling the acceptance of transethnic people...
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#115 to #107 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
Gays and transexuals have medical backing. You might as well argue that Otherkin are being seriously pushed as the next big thing. "transracial" is a joke.
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User avatar #116 to #115 - hoponthefeelstrain (06/18/2015) [-]
well no one has made the news for being otherkin, but the girl who pretended to be black has and people are seriously considering it.
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#139 to #116 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
Yeah, but that's damage control. That's the NAACP trying to not look so awful, not an actual medical discovery or something. This is just gonna be flash in the pan, really.
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#142 to #43 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
Oh also as just an extra point he uses a stawman argument too, he tries to discredit the other side of the argument by misrepresenting them, making of joke of them almost by calling them the "loli defense squad".
As if it means they points don't count anymore because they're just the biased and unreasonable loli defense sqaud.
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#30 - stimate (06/17/2015) [-]
I love this guy.
Every time I watch one of his videos, I add at least one more song to my weeb playlist.
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#8 - meringueluka ONLINE (06/17/2015) [-]
loli's and lolicons are just ******* creepy. always have, always will be.
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#32 to #8 - anon (06/17/2015) [-]
Which is why you're just a side character to the ultimate loli.
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#5 - zerosonaku ONLINE (06/17/2015) [-]
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User avatar #9 - iwannacatgirl (06/17/2015) [-]
If looking at lolicon is equal to being a real pedophile, then looking at bdsm or guro would be the same as being a torturer or necrophiliac murderer
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User avatar #25 to #9 - vivibm ONLINE (06/17/2015) [-]
that sentence didnt make any sense
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#129 to #9 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
We are not saying you are a pedophile or torturer, Demo is just saying that those things are super ****** up and should never be embraced by society. Does it need to be made illegal? No, probably not(unless it involves real people in which case of course) but society should treat those who like it as disgusting perverts. That fact that people find this stuff attractive means that they are super ****** in the head.
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User avatar #11 to #9 - MrMustacho (06/17/2015) [-]
it would be equal to being a sadist and a creeper
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#12 to #9 - anon (06/17/2015) [-]
Well actually guro and extreme BDSM porn is often forbidden on sites that otherwise accept pornographic content.
General BDSM is accepted because it's with express consent and does no lasting harm to the body. Rape and extreme BDSM, however, do imply a desire to perform such actions on real people and do real harm.

I, for one, like both hard BDSM and guro. A lot.
That said, I also had a bit of a episode and beat and raped someone that previously was a trusting partner. She's still alive, remarkably, with scars and some level of trauma.

I'm not saying liking extreme stuff in porn means you'll ever fulfill the desire in reality, but I lost the right to claim it won't.

Even LAH, one of the few high quality fully lolicon-catering sites (Serving up lolicon/toddlercon games, animes, pictures, torrents, etc.), does not allow guro because of the type of people who may be drawn in by that, or how it might influence people that only had passing interest to begin with.

Were it to be my way, every deep sin could be found at my leisure. There are studies that suggest looking at pornography helps to control desire, and prevent real harm. Child pornography was legal in... Denmark? Netherlands? I forget. Studies indicated that during legal CP, the number of people molesting children(And being found out) was substantially lower than when there was no accessible CP without massive consequence. That didn't mean there was no contact offense, only that the number of people doing it was a lot lower.

And I would very much like to believe that, and I don't really care that much if it's wrong. Self pleasure is a great thing that I embrace. I will happily watch a girl get raped and mutilated while I masturbate furiously.

But my desires don't mean Demo is wrong about his concerns on lolicon, or that anyone else is wrong about their concern about guro or tortureporn. I lost the privilege to prove them wrong.
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User avatar #13 to #12 - iwannacatgirl (06/17/2015) [-]
sounds like you had mental health problems before but that's not what I was trying to say

I do not want to accused of doing something that I did not do, like rape, just because I jerked off to rape porn.
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User avatar #34 - deviousmachine ONLINE (06/17/2015) [-]
I personally don't like loli one bit, I find any anime with it extremely obnoxious. The only thing i have to say is I don't like arguing for censorship. The point in the video where he says it is not alright to like loli (only animated) and that it should be banned because no moral grey area, he is advocating for thought policing. I do not agree with showing materiel like that myself, but you can't be allowed to police one's thoughts if it is not affecting other people.
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#131 to #34 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
I'm not sure he was arguing for censorship. Arguing for people to voice the fact that this **** is disgusting and trying to make sure everyone understand that this is a disgusting thing to like is not censorship. It seems he just wanted to make a video explaining to the people that like this crap that they are sick ***** , and it is something they need to know. I mean just look at the youtube video, tons of pedos ranting how DEMO is wrong and that what they are doing is fine.
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User avatar #149 to #131 - deviousmachine ONLINE (06/18/2015) [-]
He was arguing that animated loli is morally bad and because of that it is gateway to other stuff. Not only is that arguing for censoring something it is also making a slippery slope argument.
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#3 - spookyghostparty (06/17/2015) [-]
"you taint Berserk with your ignorance" A++
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#114 - severepwner (06/18/2015) [-]
Demo, **** your argument.

My interests and thoughts involving lolis do not affect anyone outside myself. I am not advocating for pedophilia on kids that actually exist, and I would never violate anyone in general. If no one else is affected, who the hell cares? If you get involved in a literally victimless crime, where I'm only having fun in front of my computer, **** off. Unlike you I don't want Big Brother triggering the independent thought alarm on me.

If you seriously think it's wrong to have interests in fictional characters, you are literally advocating for the rights of fictional children, that don't have real thoughts or bodies. We don't have a problem, you do, you have officially failed to separate reality from fiction and you are trying to defend a faction that doesn't exist.

Other people in this comment section have mentioned this as well. You saying a fetish for 2D lolis is a morally wrong sibling of real pedophilia, means there's no real reason you shouldn't think there isn't a separation in violence in video games and violence in real life. I don't need to explain that argument, that was debunked years ago, especially on this site. But if you don't think there's the connection in video game violence, then that means you're officially a ******* hypocrite.

Back to it being a victimless crime. I don't feel bad, and you are not going to make me feel bad. Why? Because me rubbing my dick, looking at a rectangle with a screen on it, with a couple thousand different colored pixels doesn't mean anything. No matter what I'm fapping to, they're all just pixels in the end. No one would ever know I use lolis as an outlet, because I never tell anyone, I would never touch a kid so no kids will be affected by me ever, and I have no record because I have not and will not ever be touching a kid. As far as the world knows or cares, I'm not even a lolicon. Because no one has or will ever be affected.

In conclusion. You want to ban thoughts you don't like despite the fact no one real (including yourself) is actually affected. I don't think I need to explain why that's ******* evil. The only agenda you are advocating for, doesn't really exist, therefore you have even more trouble separating reality and fiction than we ever would, you need help. It is wrong to make assumptions, but I'm just going to go out on a whim and assume you don't think violence in video games causes violence in real life (like how news anchors describe it). Because I know you play video games, and pretty much every gamer doesn't think that. So you're also a complete hypocrite if you think loli depictions lead to pedophilia in real life. It's not your concern what I get off to when I'm the only one that was actually affected.
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#117 to #114 - anon (06/18/2015) [-]
I don't know why there is a downvote for this post. Clearly, Demo is arguing that reality and fantasy have no line between them, which is clearly untrue. There is a line between reality and fantasy. This is why artists can draw war, rape, evil, and many other works of art because it is fantasy.
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User avatar #118 to #117 - severepwner (06/18/2015) [-]
Probably because of my angry arguing style. It makes me look like the bad guy when I'm really not.
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#122 - nutslap (06/18/2015) [-]
I'm sorry, but this guy is kind of retarded. Sure it is morally wrong to have an interest in loli's, but I think it is better to do that than actually steal and rape little children. If it helps keep them at bay and prevent them from doing anything illegal, then I don't really see what the problem is. just keep them away from my family.
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