Can You Imagine. Just waking up and being told you're going to die. use you know? In Japan when a death order has been issued, the condemned prisoner is informe shit
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Can You Imagine. Just waking up and being told you're going to die. use you know? In Japan when a death order has been issued, the condemned prisoner is informe

Just waking up and being told you're going to die

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In Japan when a death order has been issued,
the condemned prisoner is informed on the
morning of his/ her execution.
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User avatar #221 - archangel (12/29/2013) [-]
No wonder the word death in Japanese is shi
they were trying to say **** but they got executed before they finished
User avatar #385 to #221 - greenstrongworld (12/29/2013) [-]
Isn't it shin?
User avatar #289 to #221 - mikoli (12/29/2013) [-]
i thought shi was 4
#308 to #289 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
if there as many shi in japanese as there are in chinese then shi could mean ******* kungpow for all you know
User avatar #315 to #289 - sirlorddarthvader **User deleted account** (12/29/2013) [-]
I understand that there are a lot of homonyms in Japanese. Lot's of words that sound exactly the same, but mean totally different things depending on their context.
User avatar #342 to #315 - mikoli (12/29/2013) [-]
yeah i googled it it means like 4, death, mister, and something else
#279 to #221 - doctorprofessornv (12/29/2013) [-]
You clever devil
You clever devil
#284 to #279 - cottage ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
is that from george of the jungle?
User avatar #299 to #284 - AlanbalMIT (12/29/2013) [-]
yes it is
User avatar #295 to #284 - doctorprofessornv (12/29/2013) [-]
I have no idea, but it's funny
User avatar #17 - makutasfinest (12/28/2013) [-]
You probably thought you weren't going to die today, Surprise
#29 - include ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
The prisoner.
The prisoner.
User avatar #36 to #29 - rockntroll (12/28/2013) [-]
Rippled his jimmies.
#1 - dashgamer (12/28/2013) [-]
That means there's no room for an appeal (also that the decision must be looked at thoroughly before being finalized) and the public won't have an opportunity to stage protests for popular murderers.
I like that policy.
User avatar #242 to #1 - gorginhanson (12/29/2013) [-]
also no one is allowed to watch other than the authorities present
User avatar #9 to #1 - Namezone ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
it also means people won't be able to plan a good escape, that's my favorite thing.

i never got why people on death row or in for life don't try to escape constantly or just go berserk and attack everything in sight. nothing left to lose.
User avatar #27 to #9 - Jackimole (12/28/2013) [-]
I'd think it's because attacking steel bars and cement wouldn't get you very far.
#139 to #9 - anon (12/28/2013) [-]
you are on a death row already, why dont you try to scape or go berseck and attack everything in sight?
User avatar #32 to #9 - justmedude (12/28/2013) [-]
The more you resist, the less freedoms you'll get. Prison might suck, but not as much as solitary confinement.

Besides, there are plenty of violent prisons with gang fights and whatnot.
User avatar #20 to #9 - badmonkey ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
Well I'm not sure if beatings are legal but you'll definitely receive a very violent take down
#125 to #1 - anon (12/28/2013) [-]
but it's also a bit better for them (which I don't necessarily feel is good or bad) - they don't spend all of their final days dreading death, just a few hours
#389 to #125 - bann (12/29/2013) [-]
I don't know, on the flip side it would be just as bad wondering whether you got the death sentence or not.
#191 - satanisrealgod (12/29/2013) [-]
You got 1 day to live ;)
#230 - alstorp (12/29/2013) [-]
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#15 - mastersaturday (12/28/2013) [-]
You know what, I don't really have a problem with this. They'll be dead anyway, so they won't have to live with it for long.
#58 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
I spent 3 days in a Japanese prison. Never again. Ever.
#63 to #58 - tehfunnyguy (12/28/2013) [-]
How was it?
#103 to #63 - anon (12/28/2013) [-]
very kawai I'd imagine
User avatar #69 to #63 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
I literately **** myself on the second day.
User avatar #61 to #58 - holyfool (12/28/2013) [-]
What did you do?
User avatar #62 to #61 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
I was super drunk and I punched a police officer in the mouth.
#66 to #62 - holyfool (12/28/2013) [-]
What were the inmates like?
User avatar #68 to #66 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
It was horrible, I was never so scared in my life.
#75 to #68 - tehfunnyguy (12/28/2013) [-]
Were the inmates scary or was it just the prison?
User avatar #76 to #75 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
The prison, lot of the inmates were just your typical teenage wannabe thugs.
#77 to #76 - tehfunnyguy (12/28/2013) [-]
How did you get out? What country are you from?
User avatar #79 to #77 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
American, got out when my commanding officer finally convinced the officer to drop the charges.
User avatar #87 to #79 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
ahhhh yes...... the infamous drunken US soldier. you just joined a club you don't wanna be part of
User avatar #91 to #87 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
Yep. I have not gotten drunk since. Nothing sobers you up like a stay in Japanese prison.
User avatar #93 to #91 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
good boy
User avatar #94 to #93 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
The JSDF are good fun to hang around, but the Japanese police will arrest your ass for standing still for to long.
User avatar #97 to #94 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
they'll arrest your ass for not standing long enough!
User avatar #98 to #97 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
And never talk to any girl who looks under 20.
User avatar #120 to #98 - youmotherfather (12/28/2013) [-]
***** , everyone in that ******* country looks under 20, unless they're 80
User avatar #121 to #120 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
Thats the problem.
User avatar #100 to #98 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
**** , i'm the definition of manwhore. under those circumstances, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN YOU CHINKY EYED BITCHES!!!!
#104 to #100 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
And gunbunnies everywhere.
User avatar #106 to #104 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
User avatar #107 to #106 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
Aah, japan is good fun.
User avatar #108 to #107 - brothergrimm (12/28/2013) [-]
i like it better here at home where i can get drunk and blow **** up whenever the **** i feel like
User avatar #110 to #108 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
User avatar #296 to #97 - apllo (12/29/2013) [-]
I'm planning to study abroad in Japan is there any advice you can give me.
User avatar #404 to #296 - jinxbomb (12/29/2013) [-]
when you don't know the Japanese for something just say it in English, but really loudly
User avatar #395 to #296 - mrdrpage (12/29/2013) [-]
Repeat "moshi", "desu", and "kawaii" the entire time you have a conversation.
They love that **** over there.
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#116 to #58 - youmotherfather (12/28/2013) [-]
did you get anally raped by tentacles?
did you get anally raped by tentacles?
User avatar #117 to #116 - kawaiidesudesuu (12/28/2013) [-]
Nope, thankfully.
#73 - tyroneisanigger (12/28/2013) [-]
I actually disagree with the death penalty. If you murder someone, getting a paralyzing agent shot up through your veins isn't punishment, life being butt ****** by Bubba and his 8 foot long cock, is punishment.
User avatar #113 to #73 - spelly (12/28/2013) [-]
What about the people who are Bubba in prison?
#114 to #113 - tyroneisanigger (12/28/2013) [-]
Then Bubba is beat by the guards, or butt ****** by a Tyrone Hakeem Jamel then head of the black G lords.
User avatar #128 to #114 - huntergriff ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
But what about the people who are Tyrone Hakeem Jamel.
#137 to #128 - tyroneisanigger (12/28/2013) [-]
Nothing. No one ***** with the G lords.
User avatar #134 to #128 - bobthedilder (12/28/2013) [-]
Shanked by Aryan Brotherhood, and the cycle of rape and murder continues.
User avatar #177 to #73 - CakeOrDeath (12/29/2013) [-]
That's why I'm a fan of hanging. At least that way the monsters feel at least a fraction of the pain they themselves caused others.
#199 to #177 - noschool ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
actually if you hang someone with the right height and correct rope placement they can die instantaneously.
User avatar #207 to #199 - CakeOrDeath (12/29/2013) [-]
Yes I know, but the issue with the drops is no one ever sat down and figured out the exact science behind how high to drop them. Because if you drop them too high, the head breaks off. Too low, they don't die instantly. The Americans came up with a chart in like 1910 I believe, and they used it until the last execution in the 80s. But its unreliable, and very often the drops were botched.
User avatar #298 to #73 - breakfastskippa (12/29/2013) [-]
Death by snu snu, with big black bubba.
#412 to #73 - tehbawz (12/29/2013) [-]
Tell that to the guy who's in on drug possession charges and gets roomed with Billy the homicidal maniac. Not excusing anyone's actions, but prison is already a ****** place, mixing in crazy murderers to live there forever instead of just killing them makes it unnecessarily worse.
User avatar #83 to #73 - advicedude (12/28/2013) [-]
Ok so lets spend millions keeping these people alive with a shelter, food, sex, and athletic equipment.
User avatar #90 to #83 - mcrut (12/28/2013) [-]
What if they were innocent?
#84 to #83 - tyroneisanigger (12/28/2013) [-]
There you go! You get the idea.
User avatar #88 to #84 - advicedude (12/28/2013) [-]
It was ironically. If they are going to serve for life, I say just kill them. They are just throwing money away.
#101 to #88 - tyroneisanigger (12/28/2013) [-]
Yeah, it was obvious it was ironic.

I believe getting butt ****** by Bubba or smuggling cigarettes in for Bubba through your ass to prevent getting butt ****** is much more punishment that that death penalty.
#216 to #83 - ostemad (12/29/2013) [-]
Don't kill people. Time will do that for you! labor camps bitch.
User avatar #99 to #83 - jagenblitz (12/28/2013) [-]
It costs more to execute them. In the US, at least.
User avatar #376 to #99 - advicedude (12/29/2013) [-]
not in the long term.
User avatar #393 to #376 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
Yes, in the long term. People on death row are entitled to special lawyers, paid for by the state. It can easily take over a decade to actually execute someone; during which, on top of food, clothes, medical care, etc., the state is also paying the inmate's lawyer's salary.
User avatar #157 to #73 - taintedangel (12/29/2013) [-]
Death penalty should fit the way they did the murder(s).
User avatar #158 to #73 - Lintutu (12/29/2013) [-]
I disagree with your opinion but i respect it

I however do agree with the death penalty because there are some real sick monsters of "people' out there, and the only true way to deal with them is to wipe them off the planet forever. They take up space in the prisons when their life is completely worthless.

For people like thieves, just make them work really hard inside the prison for about a year

But for special cases like pedophiles, child killers, or senior citizen abusers/killers, they should have the **** smack layed on them forever. Beating them to the very inch of their life, let them heal, and then repeat
#10 - grampian (12/28/2013) [-]
and if they don't get out of a hot zone before the time is up the collars around their necks explode. pffft.

japan, am I right?
#13 - didactus (12/28/2013) [-]
I dislike Capital punishment enough, but it's terrible to get informed that you will die in the next 24 hours. For whatever you have been sentenced can you not atleast give them time to mentally prepare for their own demise?    
Hate all you want on me for saying death penalty is bad, convince me and I will step down. Although no argument has yet swayed me. If you thumb me down, then so be it you rather dislike what I said that face me and challenge my views. I would love for you to do so.
I dislike Capital punishment enough, but it's terrible to get informed that you will die in the next 24 hours. For whatever you have been sentenced can you not atleast give them time to mentally prepare for their own demise?
Hate all you want on me for saying death penalty is bad, convince me and I will step down. Although no argument has yet swayed me. If you thumb me down, then so be it you rather dislike what I said that face me and challenge my views. I would love for you to do so.
User avatar #302 to #13 - cadencee (12/29/2013) [-]
I'll bite.

In Australia it costs roughly thirty one thousand AUS dollars of taxpayers money to keep one prisoner in prison for one year. Now imagine if a 26 year old gets 3 life sentences (25 years each) then he would be in prison for the rest of his life (most likely). Let us assume that he likes to be 65. He got through the rough prison system for 34 years hating his life, hating the environment.

He is bitter, angry, aggressive and violent and in no way a boon to society.

This man alone has soaked up one million and fifty fur thousand tax payers dollars, to feed him, clothe him, keep him warm with a place to stay. This irredeemable criminal who backlashes at anyone who gets too close. A man who ruthlessly killed a family of four in a murderous rampage of blind destruction.

It is estimated that there are currently one hundred and five thousand citizens of Australia without a warm place to sleep on any given night. Many of these people dont have food, shelter or security. They have done nothing wrong.

They haven't murdered, they haven't raped. And if they have been forced to steal so that they could eat that night then i feel not anger but pity. My girlfriends family is very poor, i have seen what it is like to not know where you are getting you next meal.

These are good, honest people who lack that which a criminal is given for free.

Tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars go to keeping life sentence criminals in prison every year. Hundreds of millions of dollars which could otherwise be used to help the poor and underprivileged within our society.

I'm not saying to kill everyone who does anything bad. But if they do something bad enough to deserve twenty five ******* years, then they do not, in my opinion deserve this blessing that we call life.

tl;dr: Millions of dollars are spent on keeping prisoners alive that could be better used elsewhere.
User avatar #303 to #302 - cadencee (12/29/2013) [-]
Lives to be*
User avatar #367 to #13 - NinjaHermit (12/29/2013) [-]
I dunno, man. Just hypothetically speaking, if someone were to receive the death penalty no matter what, one could argue that knowing about it in advance could be pretty bad, too. You get to sit there knowing, anticipating your own death. Any hopes you had are dashed once the appeals fail. All you can do it wait. Think and wait to die.
Yeah, for some people, they might be able to mentally prepare themselves. But for others the waiting could be torture. Maybe other people would prefer to not know ahead of time, and just get it over with quickly, you know?

In any case, time periods aside, I probably veer towards being against the death penalty anyway.
User avatar #31 to #13 - messerauditore (12/28/2013) [-]
If you've done something terrible enough to need the death penalty, no, you don't deserve to prepare.
User avatar #35 to #31 - oceanfrank ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
what if you were framed?
User avatar #126 to #35 - fuckthepopo ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
Then it's nice of that person to hang me on their wall
User avatar #200 to #35 - notstill (12/29/2013) [-]
Was It a guilded frame or one of those cheap ones you can get at kmart
User avatar #33 to #13 - demigodofmadness (12/28/2013) [-]
The worst part about being on death row is the waiting. If it was up to me I wouldn't be informed, I'd prefer they just poison one of my meals.
User avatar #39 to #13 - willindor (12/28/2013) [-]
I think it's useless, can't they perform experiments that would be lethal on people who would otherwise deserve the death penalty?
User avatar #55 to #13 - akkere (12/28/2013) [-]
I believe the Death Penalty should be existent, but only through a handful a reformations in the justice system in terms of revision of evidence and defining a concept of absolute certainty in accordance to that evidence.
I also think the Death Penalty should be reserved for those that either are unable to be rehabilitated (extensive reform for this part to happen which might be even less likely to occur than the review of evidence) or have committed an atrocity so terrible that even the most forgiving society would not want to have them back (of which I'd assume the evidence would be very easy to find, but I'm no expert in criminal justice)

Out of curiosity, what part of the death penalty are you most dissuaded by? (Some dislike it because of the concept of punishing murderers by "murdering" them, some are dissuaded by the fear of uncertainty, which my reasons are primarily directed to).
User avatar #183 to #13 - themasterofyou ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
I'm not here to change your views or to bash you for having an opinion, I would just like to say my view real quick, I believe that the death sentence should only be reserved for those who have killed another human being, for no man or women has the right to take away the life of another person.

Also I would like to ask you why it is that you believe that the death sentence is wrong, what is your view?
#41 to #13 - unncommon (12/28/2013) [-]
I don't understand...
Unborn babies can die,
But killing murderers is wrong?
#74 to #41 - nadam (12/28/2013) [-]
Where did he say he was pro-choice? Does being anti-capital punishment automatically make a person a Liberal?

Believe it or not, but most people don't fit into your little arch-types perfectly. They actually have thoughts and feelings on issues for their own personal reasons, and don't just conform to some group idea.
#92 to #74 - unncommon (12/28/2013) [-]
Wanna know a secret?   
 I don't give a 			****		.
Wanna know a secret?
I don't give a **** .
#53 to #41 - Jowi (12/28/2013) [-]
Most abortions are done when the embryo is just a couple of cells, but there have been a lot of cases where people who have been executed have been found out to be innocent
User avatar #57 to #53 - unncommon (12/28/2013) [-]
Mistakes are made.
Just like having sex without a condom.
We gotta compromise somewhere.
#65 to #57 - Jowi (12/28/2013) [-]
It's not really a comparable situation. A broken condom isn't under anyone's control but killing someone who didn't do anything is final and is under people's control. Lock someone up for the rest of their lives if need be but don't kill someone when there's a chance they're innocent
User avatar #44 to #41 - OsamaBinLadenz (12/28/2013) [-]
Two different situations.
#111 to #41 - theplogyr (12/28/2013) [-]
You're a very uneducated piece of **** , aren't you?

It's obvious why you'd think abortion is wrong, seeing as you probably have never achieved anything and a fetus is as much of a person as you are.
Your intellect is that of an undeveloped fetus too.
#146 to #111 - unncommon (12/29/2013) [-]
>instantly resorting to insults instead of logic   
>I'm the unintelligent one
>instantly resorting to insults instead of logic
>I'm the unintelligent one
#150 to #146 - theplogyr (12/29/2013) [-]
I don't wanna have a conversation with you, you're too stupid for that. Just blowing off some steam. Oh, and just to use "le 4chun meme arrow":

>implying that using insults makes you instantly wrong
User avatar #164 to #150 - unncommon (12/29/2013) [-]
I'm not arguing because I've already stated my point. Do I seriously have to get balls-deep in a "Life Begins at Conception" debate with someone who's instantaneous resort to someone having a different opinion than them is to insult both their intelligence and their purpose? All of which would have the same outcome regardless of the points made or the carnage used -- pointless and redundant.
I've been debating on this site since I've made an account, I've won quite a bit and have lost my fair share. With this subject in particular I'm very well-rounded (for lack of a better term). I've debated it many times and have done hours of research on it. But I've realised a lot in my time over the internet. And one of the most important relations is that you never post both a picture of your dick and your face in the same picture. But the next most important thing is that arguing over the internet is a waste of time and the only way to win is to not even argue.
Good day sir.
User avatar #167 to #164 - unncommon (12/29/2013) [-]
Carnage = verbiage
On my phone so any other "wtf" words are honest mistakes.
User avatar #170 to #13 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
I find it to be a necessary evil. To put it quite simply it is a deterrent. Other people see, "oh that man that killed his wife, was sentenced to death, maybe I should reconsider." It doesn't stop crime by any means, but statistically it shows that when the punishment fits the crime people are more likely to back out of committing a worse crime. Take the state of Texas for example, with the records for the fastest executions after sentenced, the most executions of any other state, and finally, the lowest murder per capita of any other state.
User avatar #185 to #170 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
. . .Texas does not have the lowest murder per capita. A city in Texas does, but Texas as a whole is rated as one of the more violent states.

The deterrent effect of the death penalty is also widely debated. Most homicides are not planned, leaving little to no time for people to actually think about the consequences of their actions.
User avatar #210 to #185 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
I stand corrected on Texas being lowest per capita. However by no means is it one of the most violent. The statistics for 2012 show Texas at 4.4, while Louisiana is at 10.8. The Highest the census shows Texas at is 7.7 in 1996. Also in that year Louisiana was at 17.5. Louisiana is consistently twice as murderous as Texas. Lastly most of the large population states are consistently 3 or 4 points higher than Texas. But yes, Texas is a whole three points higher than the lowest in 2012, which is New Hampshire at 1.1.
User avatar #220 to #210 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
If you wish to go solely off of murder rates. However, if you look at multiple crime statistics, you'll see that overall Texas, and Southern states in general, tend to be more violent:

You can also forget about the death penalty being a deterrent. States with the death penalty have higher homicides rates than those without:
User avatar #229 to #220 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
The issue with accounting the southern states is the data becomes skewed as Louisiana, the only state consistently with stats over 10 is part of that, so it makes the whole of the south look worse. Other states have had stats over 10, but it is once or twice not constant. You are right about as a whole the south is more violent though, these states are usually about 1 or 2 points higher than the midwest.

As to you second point. States with the most lenient gun laws have some of the lowest murder rates.

User avatar #236 to #229 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
Even if you take it on a state by state basis, the vast majority of the states without the death penalty rate on the lower half of homicides statistics.

I don't see anything in that link that supports that. And assuming that is true, what's your point? What does that have to do with the death penalty?
User avatar #239 to #236 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
At least the media around here (California) claim on a daily basis that guns and the death penalty are the only reasons people die. I hate my state.
User avatar #243 to #239 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
I mean California is to Liberals as Texas is to Conservatives, so there's not much you can do about that.
User avatar #246 to #243 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
Well, other than move, which I intend to once I accumulate enough money to survive in case I can't get a job immediately. Also even though I like Texas, I don't think I'll move there. Too hot for me, I like it cooler.
User avatar #249 to #246 - jagenblitz (12/29/2013) [-]
I prefer the heat honestly. Winters in New York suck. I've always thought about moving to California. I don't really give a **** about politics so the state being over-liberal wouldn't bother me.
User avatar #254 to #249 - vatra (12/29/2013) [-]
Yeah honestly only the summer is too hot, the rest of the seasons can be nice, still a bit too warm for my liking, but I can deal with it. I'm thinking of either Seattle or Santa Fe.
User avatar #122 to #13 - ipartywithpedobear (12/28/2013) [-]
So you're saying that it's too cruel to let people like jeffery dahmer, john wayne gayce, ted bundy, BTK killer, charles manson, and other murderers/ rapists who have been proven guilty, not prepare themselves for thier demise?

do you think that murders let people come to terms with the fact they're about to be murdered, and rapists let their victims prepared to be raped?

******* pussy.
User avatar #127 to #122 - certifiedidiot (12/28/2013) [-]
You seem rather willing to stoop to the same lows as the very people in prison, guess you're just as bad as them but just wait for an excuse to act instead of on impulse.
User avatar #130 to #127 - ipartywithpedobear (12/28/2013) [-]
yea, i am.

People who murder should be murdered, people who rape should be raped.

if you beat your husband/ wife/ child, you should be beaten twice as bad.

it's called punishment.

people who commit crimes don't ******* care about the people they hurt.

when i was stabbed for my wallet, do you think the ****** cared if i lived or died? do you think he cared that i was struggling to make ends meet?

No, he ******* didn't, he only cared about taking what didn't belong to him.

People know fire's hot, that's why they don't put their hands in it.

If people aren't afraid of punishment or consequences, they do what ever they want and harm whoever they want.

That's why all the ******* ******* in chicago go around shooting each other, stealing **** , tagging **** , and raping each other, because they aren't afraid of punishment.
User avatar #135 to #130 - certifiedidiot (12/28/2013) [-]
What an odd state of mind.
User avatar #138 to #135 - ipartywithpedobear (12/28/2013) [-]
it's odd to believe that people who do wrong should be wronged just as bad?
you're name is incredibly accurate
User avatar #141 to #138 - certifiedidiot (12/29/2013) [-]
And I guess your name means you support pedophiles, anything else you'd like to say now that we're talking absolute ********* through our teeth about usernames for some random **** website?

If not then I'd like to say I don't believe they should go scot free but that it is also not an easy thing since the whole ''Eye for an eye'' thing makes everyone blind in the end and you'd need someone to kill a whole bunch of people who is never going to be judged for killing those people, and if a innocent person is executed, everyone supporting the legislature that allows this becomes murderers by proxy, and those who don't want to have people killed are forced through their tax money to support murders.

It's not all that easy.
User avatar #143 to #141 - ipartywithpedobear (12/29/2013) [-]
i'm not going to read that or anything else you post.

you're ******* retarded. bye.
User avatar #194 to #143 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/29/2013) [-]
Sometimes I feel like we should do what they do in Judge Dredd
"You jaywalked. Punishment is: execution"
User avatar #202 to #194 - ipartywithpedobear (12/29/2013) [-]
that's why i bought a kabar.

i've had my car broken into, been stabbed for my wallet, and had someone break into my garage and steal my bike and lawn mower while i was at work, and i live by a bunch of ghetto ******* who "refuse to snitch"

we all know who's doing this **** , but we don't have enough evidence so the cops won't do anything.

it's ******* ******** , kill em all.
User avatar #211 to #202 - xolotyl **User deleted account** (12/29/2013) [-]
I know it's not an easy thing to do but have you tried moving somewhere else?
User avatar #217 to #211 - ipartywithpedobear (12/29/2013) [-]
i work 2 part time jobs and go to school.
i have bills to pay man.

Minimum wage is ******** .
User avatar #267 to #202 - wallbuilder (12/29/2013) [-]
Bait them. Get a security camera, leave something in a place where they will try to steal, record and profit.
User avatar #144 to #143 - certifiedidiot (12/29/2013) [-]
Awww, I guess the wee man is still upset someone took his wallet, ah well, tootle loo to you missus.
#23 to #13 - taurusguy (12/28/2013) [-]
I just want someone to invent a poison that just kills you once you fall asleep. You wouldnt even know, the best way you could ever kill someone when you dont want to hurt them.
Still, i would rather see a murderer of 4 or 5 get killed aswell, maybe not if he does it on his first go around, but if you go in jail for killing/raping/kidnapping the crimes that are a bit worse, crimes like robbery and **** dont deserve death for 3 or more times, you should be put down. 3 chances at life is enough.
#25 to #13 - tobloi (12/28/2013) [-]
My view is that if someone has a mental state of mind that they think it's okay to kill people, let's say a guy thought it was okay to hurt people physically and kill them because he thinks it's okay. I think it's okay to kill them then because there is no way you can change their mind set people with that mind set deserve to die.
But then there's people who do such a heinous crime that they deserve a punishment as equally worthy of their crime
#40 to #13 - shareacokewith (12/28/2013) [-]
I like capital punishment. I also like that everyone is allowed an opinion, so I'm not going to sit here and bad mouth yours. The reason I like capital punishment is because I also like the eye for an eye mentality. A mass murderer in my opinion does not deserve his life any more. Capital punishment is also more about righting wrongs that vengeance. A family who knows that the murderer of their family member has been executed by the powers that be, is less likely to seek vengeance in the future against the original perpetrator.

If someone is killed by the state, then there is also no chance of them ever committing the crime again, for obvious reasons such as being dead. Capital punishment will also frighten some people, which is a good deterrent from committing the crime in the first place.

Finally, I know that the argument from your side always is one of two things. Either, a; it is barbaric, or b; what if new evidence was to surface after the state had killed the person in question that proved their innocence.

To the first one, if the execution of someone who has earned an execution based on their actions and testimony, and then the judgement of people who have been selected by the government to carry out said judgement isn't enough civility for you, then I don't believe there is any way to please you in that area.

To the second, the amount of times that the court would of been right, versus the amount of times the court would of been right would be a laughable landslide that the court would win. Even if 1 in 100 people were wrongly convicted, which I can almost guarantee is still well below the success rate, that would be a 99 percent success rate, which is a grade I bet we all wish we could have maintained through all of our educations.

As stated at the beginning, I'm not trying to change your opinion, or slander it, this is just my two cents. Have a nice one mate.
User avatar #166 to #40 - zeusx ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
but the problem is that the death penalty is not necessary. i can understand that you would be ok with a 99.99 percent success rate for something necessary but the truth is that the death penalty isn't. is it really worth it to you to have any number of innocent men and women utterly murdered by the state when we already have a system for life imprisonment that guarantees no intentional death will come to the wrongfully convicted? death is too final a punishment. there is no justice in state sponsored killings.

to that frightening or deterrent effect, across the board it has been shown that states and regions with the death penalty actually have the same or higher instances of capital crimes. crimes that warrant the death penalty like murder are caused for three reasons. profit, compulsion, or passion. someone who kills for profit understands the risks and has made peace with them. for compulsion he has no power over whether he kills or not. for passion he is not thinking rationally. these people aren't stopped by penalties or risks

lastly, no matter how civil the discussion or decision is when condemning a person to death it doesn't weigh on the act itself. if we get a committee together composed of the majority of people in the state and have tea and biscuits while we democratically vote on the extermination of the minority does that polite and civil discourse justify the genocide? no it doesn't. to murder someone who poses no immediate threat to anyone is always barbaric regardless of the system that makes the decision.

i know vengeance is cathartic. we will always want to destroy those who've wronged us. that pedophile/murderer/rapist is a terrible, disgusting, and foul human being that no on will mourn for, but he is a human being nonetheless and is guaranteed the same rights and protections as all of us. that is what keeps the system working. justice is cold and calculating. it doesn't feel rage or scream for vengeance. it only knows objective morality.
User avatar #253 to #166 - trivdiego (12/29/2013) [-]
keeping a prsioner alive to live out the rest of their lives in jail is extremely costly and some would argue more inhumane than the death penalty
#256 to #253 - kdeastab (12/29/2013) [-]
Actually, death penalty is often more expensive. The trials are extended long to try to reduce the margin of error, and lawyer fees aren't cheep. Along with lawyer fees you have the fee of running the court, fees of the jury, fees of doing the paperwork for the court. Death penalty cases can cost around 70% more due to the length and complexity of the case. After these costs, the margin of error still isn't entirely removed and innocent people are killed. If you find that the person in trial WAS innocent, you can undo putting someone in prison for life, you can't undo killing them. Even if it costs more to keep someone alive, I feel like that last point is ridiculously more important than a higher cost.
#293 to #253 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
At $200k/year to house a person convicted of violent crimes, I the the person were to spend 20 years in prison, which an extremely low estimate, then it would cost $4 mil to house that one inmate (ignoring rising costs and inflation). I doubt the the death penalty would cost more, even with a couple years of appeals; especially if a person with insurmountable evidence of a heinous crime spends 40-50 years in maximum security prison.
User avatar #383 to #293 - trivdiego (12/29/2013) [-]
are you agreeing with me?
User avatar #255 to #253 - zeusx ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
not nearly as costly as the death penalty. with all the appeals that are (rightfully) required to send someone to death. you really want to be sure when someone's life is in the balance. the extended processes and appeals make capital punishment far more expensive than imprisonment. also to try to justify killing someone just because it's cheaper seems morally reprehensible to me. how much is a human life worth? where do you set that line where it's ok to kill this guy because his life isn't worth as much as whatever arbitrary amount of money.
User avatar #257 to #255 - trivdiego (12/29/2013) [-]
You can't put a price on life I agree, but it definitely is a motivator seeing as the state only has a finite amount of money to jail prisoners with. Also, if you're talking about morality, the most morally correct thing to do would be to let prisoners choose between life in prison and death. I think that it is incredibly cruel to keep someone alive for the rest of their lives, with them knowing they have no future
User avatar #263 to #257 - zeusx ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
completely agree with the whole choice thing. it isn't the state's place to decide whether or not one of its citizens should live or die. me personally, i'm pretty much always against death if i was given a choice. death is just so limiting. so many more possibilities and opportunities in life.
#307 to #166 - shareacokewith (12/29/2013) [-]
In your last paragraph you said that, and I'm paraphrasing, justice only knows morality. Well, everyone plays by a different set of moralities, and if the winning side is the one that is able to sentence people to death, then that becomes justice.

I think that you and I could go back and forth, but there's not really a point, as I'm set in my ways, and I'm sure you are set in your own. So, I thank you for the good points you made, and wish you a pleasent evening/morning/afternoon depending on your location.
#105 to #40 - anon (12/28/2013) [-]
What if you were that one person? Would knowing that the other 99 people deserved it make you feel as though you had it coming?
#304 to #105 - shareacokewith (12/29/2013) [-]
This is a common argument whenever this question is raised, and yes, it would be horrible to be in a situation where I was being wrongly convicted and killed for a crime that I didn't commit. It's also is a scenario that doesn't have a very high chance of playing out, so I will stick to what I have said before, and if one day, I am murdered by the state for a crime that I didn't commit, I'm sure I will eat my own words.
#124 to #105 - anon (12/28/2013) [-]
#129 to #40 - sparkysparkybooman (12/28/2013) [-]
I would be for it if it didn't cost more than holding someone in prison for life. I'd say we let them rot in prison until they die. It's cheaper, and they get to suffer.
User avatar #312 to #129 - cadencee (12/29/2013) [-]
Suffering is not and should never be the goal.

That is disgusting, immoral and unjustifiable.

Prison should be a place for rehabilitation not as punishment and that is why i am all for capital punishment as it is relatively cheap to perform and it prevents criminals from being a huge financial burden on our government and by extension every single one of us.

Were my family killed by a murderer i would not want him to suffer unless it were at my hands alone, however it would not give me peace of mind, it wouldn't console me. It would simply take away a little, irrecoverable piece of my soul.
#354 to #312 - sparkysparkybooman (12/29/2013) [-]
You're right. Lets make prison a nice place where people get to have fun, get free medical, get gourmet foods, lots of freedom, xbox's, TV's, and all the luxury in the world. I mean, we wouldn't want them to SUFFER! Why would we treat a mass murderer with hate? That's just rude.

"as it is relatively cheap to perform and it prevents criminals from being a huge financial burden on our government and by extension every single one of us.

Lmfao. Yet again, it's cheaper to have them in life in prison without parole. If you want them to not be a huge financial burden, remove the death penalty.
User avatar #359 to #354 - cadencee (12/29/2013) [-]
I am all for removing the death penalty, you seem to misinterpret my not wanting then to suffer for my wanting them to live.

Suffering and death are not always one and the same.

You went way overboard. You said you wanted them to suffer, i said that was immoral and disgusting. Prison should be a place for rehabilitation not a place to breed hardcore criminals.

Many people go to prison for soft crimes like dealing drugs and come out to re-offend much more seriously. The system doesnt work and yet we make no effort to change it because we want them to suffer. Cute red thumb by the way, really tickled my anus.
User avatar #269 to #129 - trivdiego (12/29/2013) [-]
doesn't cost that much for death penalty. All you need is an old razor and a strongman
#305 to #129 - shareacokewith (12/29/2013) [-]
it doesn't cost more to kill someone than to imprison them for life. Where did you get this from?
#349 to #305 - sparkysparkybooman (12/29/2013) [-]
Its a pretty common known fact. Google it.
#392 to #349 - shareacokewith (12/29/2013) [-]
think its pretty ******* petty that you thumb down comments that disagree with your opinion.

And you know what, I went and googled it, and the first couple of sites that came up all agree with your side, not based on moral, but based purely on cost, due to the amount of appeals that will follow the sentencing of someone to death. This doesn't hold true in a lot of cases though, especially down south where the walk to death row is a lot quicker.

Just judging off your other comments I've seen spread around this thread, I can tell your a bit of a cunt, so how about you **** yourself prick, and don't have a discussion if your not willing to share information, rather than just telling someone to google it.
#408 to #392 - sparkysparkybooman (12/29/2013) [-]
I thumb people down because it makes people butthurt. Pretty entertaining people care so much about things that don't matter in the slightest.

"And you know what, I went and googled it, and the first couple of sites that came up all agree with your side, not based on moral, but based purely on cost, due to the amount of appeals that will follow the sentencing of someone to death."
Glad you saw you were wrong =)

"Just judging off your other comments I've seen spread around this thread, I can tell your a bit of a cunt, so how about you **** yourself prick, and don't have a discussion if your not willing to share information, rather than just telling someone to google it."
Ohhh cute more butthurtness. Apparently, I'm the prick, yet I'm the one who gets consecutively called a prick and a cunt, even when I am the one being trolled. Also, try making comments that you have information to back it up. If I had just told you "Yes, it is more expensive", it would just turn into this circle jerk back and forth 'Yes it is, no its not, yes it is, no its not.........." so I told you to google it to speed up the process.
#414 to #40 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
My two main problems with executing people are different.

1.) It's sort of the easy way out for the murderer / rapist. I think life long separation from other people (no social contact at al) and water and bread are better but then again that's probably considered too cruel and against human rights (even if some people don't deserve human rights) and it costs the state more money.

2.) The judges in most countries still aren't treating everybody equal. A poor black guy usually gets a more severe punishment then a rich white girl for exactly the same crime. And especially with capital crimes this just isn't fair.
#196 to #13 - censius (12/29/2013) [-]
This guy taught me that all forms of murder is wrong.
Also, Buddha. But Vash got to me first.
#223 to #196 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
#313 to #196 - NinjaHermit (12/29/2013) [-]
**** yeah, man. Trigun all the way. I love Vash. He's a pretty deep, multifaceted character. Plus, he's got some awesome quotes:

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And the series as a whole gives the viewer some food for thought. Maybe it's silly to say, 'cuz it's just an anime/manga, but I first encountered it as a teenager, and it really did truly have an impact on my personal ethics.

(Hurr, and the Buddha was a pretty cool dude, too.)
#261 to #13 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
I dont get it... Why not just gass him in his cell with some kind of gass you cant notice and just falls into sleep and eventually dies.

This would make it so that the prisoner knows that he will eventually be killed but wont even notice it when it actually happens. Way more humane than strapping a dude to a chair with audience and inject needles into the body...
User avatar #190 to #13 - CakeOrDeath (12/29/2013) [-]
I just feel like to deliver diligent justice, we need to stop giving these people such jolly treatment. They killed people. In most cases, it was multiple people, and it was gruesome. If they knowingly decided to chop up another human being, (Not saying all murders chop people up, but you get the point) then why in the hell should they be given special treatment? Did they give the victims a call like "Hey, I'm gonna swing by your work tomorrow, rape you until you bleed, and they slit your throat." ? No. they didn't. So seeing as their victim's lives on this Earth were abruptly cut short, I feel it is not only just, but also necessary to treat these people the same. I would be perfectly ok if they were informed of their sentence on the way to the chamber. And that's a whole other thing, I think lethal injection is ******** . Firing Squad or hanging should be the only 2 methods.

Firing squad: 5 shots to the heart, bleed out, lots of pain.
Hanging: Dropped, break neck, otherwise choke to death. Both very painful

We should not just put these deranged psychopaths "to sleep" they should be given the same treatment they gave unto others.

That sir, is my opinion.
#26 to #13 - omnipotentsoap (12/28/2013) [-]
If you look at it in an economic sense it cost way more to keep them alive. Also the kind of people who are put to death are generally not able to be reintegrated back into society.
User avatar #48 to #26 - jagenblitz (12/28/2013) [-]
The first part of your post is entirely false. Death row inmates are entitled to special lawyers, paid for by the state. These lawyers often find ways to postpone the execution of their client by years. It can easily take over a decade to actually execute someone; during which on top of their food, medical care, etc., the state is also paying for their lawyer. For perhaps upwards of a decade.

It costs far more to execute someone than it does to give them a life sentence.
User avatar #180 to #13 - applesdontpee (12/29/2013) [-]
i just realized he doesn't even get his suit wet in that spit take
#64 to #13 - schneidend (12/28/2013) [-]
We're on the precipice of drowning this planet in a sea of human flesh. I'll take any form of population control we can get.
#123 to #64 - certifiedidiot (12/28/2013) [-]
Gee, I guess we know who supported the holocaust.

You swine.
User avatar #147 to #145 - certifiedidiot (12/29/2013) [-]
I mean, I agree we have a future problem with over population but the way you phrased it made it sound like you'd support genocide, to which I have to say, there's got to be some other way.

Not like I wanted you to kill all the jews... Baka!~
#159 to #147 - schneidend (12/29/2013) [-]
If it comes to that...maybe. When there's a horde of hungry people we can't afford to feed rampaging through the streets of every city, genocide is going to start seeming like a real good idea.
User avatar #173 to #159 - certifiedidiot (12/29/2013) [-]
What is there to stop it from happening again though if that happened?
User avatar #175 to #173 - schneidend (12/29/2013) [-]
We just have to hope we find the answers before it once more becomes necessary.
User avatar #47 to #13 - jewishcommunazi (12/28/2013) [-]
I believe some people have no chance of rehabilitation. A few times, the criminals themselves admit this. It makes no sense in my opinion to deprive them from the option of being executed with some dignity and make them instead either go to prison and then set them free so they commit the same crimes or make them live in prison for the rest of their lives even though they don't consent it. In both cases where the criminal isn't executed, it costs the taxpayers more money.
User avatar #24 to #13 - teoferrazzi (12/28/2013) [-]
death penalty is barbaric. end of.
User avatar #258 to #24 - npfortytwo (12/29/2013) [-]
You know what's barbaric?
End of.
User avatar #34 to #13 - daviid (12/28/2013) [-]
Well, I accept you for who you are didactus.

but i say we kill emm alllllll!!!!!
User avatar #401 to #13 - esmebuffay (12/29/2013) [-]
I don't really care either way, but the way I see it if someone raped or killed my sister then I'd kill them, so if the government wants to be it legally then I don't mind. To keep a long point short, if you've done something bad enough to get the death penalty you deserve all the hardship and pain the world can exact upon you. You reap what you sow, if you kill people then all you deserve is a short drop and a sudden stop. I don't know if I'd vote to have the death penalty brought into my country but if it was already in place I wouldn't do anything to have it removed.
User avatar #30 to #13 - Mrdannyman (12/28/2013) [-]
I'm with you, I think the death penalty is seriously retarded in most cases, but in my point of view Japan has it right (refer to comment 1)
User avatar #394 to #13 - mrdrpage (12/29/2013) [-]
In the words of a crazy mother ****** rhyming with "Fred Crugent."

"I don't like repeat offenders. I like dead offenders."
User avatar #95 to #13 - buttinspecter ONLINE (12/28/2013) [-]
I'm sure they didn't give their victims time to mentally prepare for their deaths.
#50 - traffy (12/28/2013) [-]
also in Japan sex is legal from the age of 13
#281 - dasbrot ONLINE (12/29/2013) [-]
Maybe it's a personal thing, but I would like at least a week's notice so I can think about my life.
#388 to #281 - heydany (12/29/2013) [-]
I'd prefer being told the same day im being executed. If I knew I was gonna die one week before I die I'd be pretty depressed and not really living.
#406 to #388 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
Or in my case kill myself or die on an escape attempt.
User avatar #280 - reginleif (12/29/2013) [-]
Since everyone else is sharing their thoughts on the death penalty.

I believe in it, for a very small amount of very sick, very clearly guilty people. You know the guy HALF a mall saw shoot people, and not the guy who got accused of one murder by evidence, no matter how good (< because "good evidence" is in the eyes of a jury, and some people like racists, idiots, texans don't have an eye for good evidence).

Anything less than a very obvious murder I believe ought to get life in prison where we can review the evidence (although it is clear that this is currently not the case as is with death row).

User avatar #265 - Soilwork (12/29/2013) [-]
Better than in america, "you will be executed between now and a couple decades or so"
User avatar #391 - xdeathspawnx (12/29/2013) [-]
I honestly think that's a lot better, then you don't spend your last couple days anticipating it in agony, but you still have enough time to make arrangements and say goodbye.
User avatar #276 - peezle (12/29/2013) [-]
If they didn't want to get executed then they shouldn't have committed murders.
#283 to #276 - anon (12/29/2013) [-]
But haven't you heard? Free will is a lie.
User avatar #288 to #283 - peezle (12/29/2013) [-]
Shut up anon.
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