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For students, we have nobody
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Students stage a slum at Georgetown University on NDV. protests around the
country. [Astrid / Forthe Washington Past)
By Kathleen Parker Opinion writer 'h ''l w 24 I
It would be easy to call protesting college students crybabies and brats for
pitching hissy fits over hurt feelings, but this likely would lead to such torrents of
tearful tribulation that the nation' s university system would have to shut down for
a prolonged period of grief counseling.
Besides, it would be insensitive.
Instead, let me be the first to say: it' s not the
Kathleen
column on palms and culture. She
received the Pulitzer results of our Everybody Gets a Trophy culture and
Commentary!" 2010. View Archive
students' fault. These serial tantrums are direct
an educational system that. for the most part. no
gt Facebook longer teaches a core curriculum, including history,
a RSS government and the Bill of Rights.
The students simply don' t know any better.
This isn' t necessarily to excuse them. Everyone has a choice whether to ignore a
perceived slight - or to form a posse. But as with any problem, it helps to
understand its source. The disease, I fear. was with the zealous
pampering of the American child that began a few decades ago.
The first sign of the epidemic of sensitivity we' re witnessing was when parents
and teachers were instructed never to tell johnny that he' s a "bad boy." but that
he' s "acting" like a bad boy.
Next. johnny was handed a blue ribbon along with everyone else on the team
even though he didn' t deserve one. This had the opposite effect of what was
intended. Rather than protecting Johnny' s fragile , the prize
undermined Johnny' s faith in his own perceptions and judgment. It robbed him of
his ability to pick himself up when he fell and to be brave, honest and hardy in the
face of adversity.
is earned, not bestowed.
Today' s campuses are overrun with , their female counterparts and
their adult enablers. How will we ever find enough fainting couches?
Lest anyone feel slighted so soon, this is also not to diminish the pain of racism (or
sexism. ageism, blondish or whatever -ism gets one' s tear ducts moistened). But
nothing reported on campuses the past several weeks rises to the level of the
coerced resignations of a university chancellor and president.
The affronts that prompted students to demand the resignations include: a
possibly , driveway racial epithet apparently aimed at the student body
president; another racial epithet, hurled by a drunk white student; a swastika
drawn with feces in a dorm restroom.
Someone certainly deserves a spanking - or psychoanalysis. Sigmund Freud had
plenty to say about people who play with the products of their alimentary canal.
But do such events mean that students have been neglected, as protesters have
charged? or that the school tolerates racism?
Concurrent with these episodes of outrage is the recent surge on campuses of
trigger warnings" in syllabuses to alert students to content that might be
upsetting, and "safe spaces" where students can seek refuge when ideas make
them uncomfortable. It seems absurd to have to mention that the purpose of
higher education is to be challenged, to be exposed to different views and. above
all, to be exhilarated by the exercise offere speech - other people' s as well as
one' s own.
The marketplace of ideas is not for sissies, in other words. And it would appear
that knowledge, the curse of the enlightened, is not for everyone.
The latter is meant to be an observation, but on many college campuses today, it
seems to be an operating principle. A recent survey of 1, 100 colleges and
universities found that only 18 percent require American history or government,
where such foundational premises as the First Amendment might be explained
and understood.
The survey. by the American Council and Alumni, assesses schools
according to whether they have at least one required course in composition,
foreign language at the intermediate level, American government or history,
economics, science, mathematics and literature. coincidentally, the very
institutions where students are dominating what passes for debate also scored
among the worst: Missouri, D; Yale, C; Dartmouth, C; and Princeton, C - all for
requiring only one or a few of the subjects. Amherst scored an F for requiring
none of them.
Such is the world we' created for young people who soon enough will discover
that the world doesn' t much care about their tender feelings. But before such
harsh realities knock them off their ponies, we might hope that they redirect their
anger. They have every right to despise the coddling culture that ill prepared
them for life and an educational system that has failed to teach them what they
need to know.
Weep for them - and us.
Read more from Kathleen Parker' s archive, follow her on Twitter or find her on
Facebook.
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#1 - agreatusername (11/29/2015) [-]
I like Kathleen Parker.
We should send her a fruit basket.
#120 to #1 - agreatusername (11/30/2015) [-]
Top 10...
holy ****
#128 to #120 - ohmeghon (11/30/2015) [-]
GIF
why must you ear rape me in this way
#129 to #128 - agreatusername (11/30/2015) [-]
Because you touch yourself at night
Because you touch yourself at night
#130 to #129 - ohmeghon (11/30/2015) [-]
ur still a cunt
#65 to #1 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
I hate to admit it, but she hit the nail on the head with this. We are getting too "Fragile" as a race, we get emotional about the stupidest things, I am part of the younger generation and i even get like this sometimes. I take things to heart when people are just making a joke. it's a terrible feeling
User avatar #108 to #65 - ChuckNorrisVsMRT (11/30/2015) [-]
I don't think we're too fragile as a whole, I think we're too out of balance because it seems like most people are on one side or the other of the emotional spectrum, Either being an emotionally stunted edgy man child, or an over emotional cry baby.
#15 to #1 - vladhellsing (11/29/2015) [-]
So she can throw it at all those sissies!
User avatar #19 to #15 - santamansan (11/29/2015) [-]
They might shoot her though
User avatar #30 to #19 - slimscheibe (11/29/2015) [-]
Nah, college youth are all hiveminding against firearms. They'd never use one.
User avatar #31 to #30 - santamansan (11/29/2015) [-]
When someone runs at you with a. A banana, you shoot them
Even if You don't like guns
#37 to #31 - seatherten (11/29/2015) [-]
But its a gun free zone, you can't shoot guns there.
#127 to #37 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
but those rounds came from outside
User avatar #32 to #31 - vladhellsing (11/29/2015) [-]
Pfft, like that would work nowadays.

You're supposed to release the tiger.
User avatar #50 to #32 - santamansan (11/29/2015) [-]
pfft. like you want to kill a tiger.

bananas are dangerous
User avatar #51 to #50 - vladhellsing (11/29/2015) [-]
Touché. Better drop the 16 tonne weight.
#67 to #32 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
Against a banana?
#21 to #19 - kapkap (11/29/2015) [-]
you dont think they are too scared to handle a gun?
#10 - severepwner ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
On the "Give every child a trophy" thing.

That didn't really turn me into an entitled **** or anything, it just confused the **** out of me for a while. I got like 5 baseball and soccer trophies sitting on my dresser and I just thought "I did terrible, I don't remember winning, how and why do I have these?" I was better at soccer anyway. Eventually I realized that all these plastic trophies were given to everyone regardless of their effort, I admit, I did like having a trophy on my dresser, but all it did was trivialize all those trophies to me.

At that point I realized I got exactly what I deserved, several piles of plastic. So the only observation I can make on how that affected me, I MAY have taken awards, compliments, successes, and my "victories" far less seriously. I wasn't conditioned to be entitled to gold, I was shown right away, the world is too frightened to tell me the truth, and would rather lie and give me gifts of pity and plastic.
#134 to #10 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
What really pisses me off about every child getting a trophy is that it all gets worked into the total cost. Now some kid can't afford to play baseball because of the price of a trophy being tagged on to the admission fee.
User avatar #140 to #10 - wisdombranch (11/30/2015) [-]
I just gave you a thumb purely for the line "gifts of pity and plastic"
User avatar #83 to #10 - shyyguy (11/29/2015) [-]
I would say instead of giving the losing team trophies, they could get some sort of memorabilia object. And then you could go further by highlighting the best player(s) on the team by giving him or her a trophy.

That way instead of implying that you were actually good at the sport/activity, it can be kept as a reminder to yourself or parents that you participated in X activity during Y year.

I know I threw away a few trophies as well. Didn't really care about them honestly.
User avatar #101 to #83 - quantumranger (11/30/2015) [-]
That's what my former school did for it's summer track camp. All the kids got t-shirts and a ribbon/medallion thing, and the fastest kids in each grade got a little trophy, plus some specialty trophies for most improved and stuff like that.
User avatar #88 to #10 - caucasianblackbear (11/29/2015) [-]
I ran track for two years in highschool. The best I ever finished in a race was third. Both years I won the "Christian Character Award". I am not a christian. I do not go to a christian school, nor do I participate in a christian sports conference. I understand that it represents moral integrity, but I was kind of a dick back in highschool.

I'm just as confused as you are. It's a stupid award, but I'd still prefer it go to somebody who worked harder than I did, performed better than I did, and displayed more morality than I did. I don't feel that the system has cheated me or that I cheated the system, I feel that the system cheated someone else.
User avatar #94 to #10 - funbaggy (11/30/2015) [-]
I was in a few "leagues" were everyone got a trophy. I got mine and didn't give a **** about it. It was a ****** piece of plastic. Also in middle school you would get ribbons for **** and I didn't really give a **** about getting a blue ribbon everytime, I would rather have on of every color (blue first, purple second, yellow third or something like that).
User avatar #102 to #10 - aleypal (11/30/2015) [-]
i know what you mean, i sat in the outfield and picked grass for little league, and then i get a nice trophy for it?? didn't make sense. the only thing i remember being proud of and trying for was the first place ribbon in a box car derby. i worked my ass off on that thing and got first place, that and a marathon medal are the only things i have left, i threw all the other crap away.
#105 to #10 - wagastragas (11/30/2015) [-]
The thing is, your experience, is not everyones experience.
User avatar #138 to #105 - severepwner ONLINE (11/30/2015) [-]
I wasn't implying I was evidence that the "trophy culture" is mistaken.

I was just showing what my experience as a child was, which could be seen as an exception.
#125 to #10 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
pity and plastic, i like that
User avatar #126 to #10 - Busboy (11/30/2015) [-]
I never displayed my soccer participation trophy due to my name being misspelled on it.
#69 to #10 - eddytheanon (11/29/2015) [-]
I never liked the award for having accomplished nothing. Eventually I stopped wanting to participate and try because I knew that no matter how I did everyone was gonna be awarded the same. like field day in elementary, I knew I wasn't the most active and I was gonna lose but it was just insulting when they'd give me a ribbon anyway
User avatar #81 to #10 - dantemp (11/29/2015) [-]
Yep, every action affects every person differently, generalizing **** is stupid. But still, as someone that is playing games a lot there is nothing like getting a victory that you truly deserved, and that feeling is only amplified by the numbers of time you failed before that. A system that is trying to rob people of that is a stupid system. And I'm the last person that will tell you that we need to let children fend from themselves, because I remember suffering a lot in school and I would've made a lot of use of someone there watching my back.
User avatar #11 to #10 - fornowjr (11/29/2015) [-]
I agree. During my karate years, I was terrible at competitions, so they gave me trophies, even though I lost. It didn't make me feel any better and I used it as a paper weight more than anything.

I was more proud of the medals and ribbons that I got as first or even second place. They tried to make me feel better with "Participant" awards, but it didn't. Just made me feel like everyone else. Then they preach "You're unique." and everything else along those lines.
#20 to #11 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
Who the **** thumbed you down?
User avatar #35 to #20 - fornowjr (11/29/2015) [-]
One of you!
User avatar #52 to #10 - thelastelephant ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
I looked forward to the end-of-season pizza parties more than the trophies when I was growing up. I never understood why we got trophies when we lost.

The medals we got in Science Team felt much more earned, especially at the Nationals level. When you come from a podunk rural town and get even 3rd at Nationals you feel like a ******* god.
User avatar #18 to #10 - supercookieduster (11/29/2015) [-]
true, we got those too. they where nice, but didnt really mean anything. the ones i actually did win, like for pinewood derbys and **** , actually did
User avatar #34 to #18 - tarabostes ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Nice , did you win one for me too cookie??
#39 to #34 - supercookieduster (11/29/2015) [-]
you aint gettin **** with that colored text
#41 to #39 - tarabostes ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
It's called "Invisitext'' , you probably haven't heard of it...
#45 to #41 - supercookieduster (11/29/2015) [-]
so thats what the kids are into these day
#57 to #45 - tarabostes ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
I-I'm into somethin' else... Y-You probably never heard of it... You
#61 to #60 - tarabostes ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Sooooooooooo........ Are you gonna pose like in your profile pic for me or not cookie?!?
Sooooooooooo........ Are you gonna pose like in your profile pic for me or not cookie?!?
User avatar #116 to #48 - emptysuperman (11/30/2015) [-]
Appeasement.
User avatar #74 to #48 - malhaloc ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Is it ironic that this is the kind of behavior the article is talking about? Maybe not so much with feelings but expecting everything to be made easier for them?
User avatar #77 to #74 - foodyquest (11/29/2015) [-]
Nah man I read it. I just like using this gif
User avatar #78 to #77 - malhaloc ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
Ah...well played then.
User avatar #137 to #74 - narluga (11/30/2015) [-]
Nah, it's not really making it easier, more of laziness.
Easier would be them saying to use smaller words and such.
User avatar #123 to #74 - catdownstairz (11/30/2015) [-]
We've grown beyond the idea of delayed gratification. As a society we are impatient, and like immediate results. So yeah, I agree with you
#49 to #48 - jwalton (11/29/2015) [-]
pandering
#28 - willindor (11/29/2015) [-]
I dunno, but is making a swastika out of **** an insult towards the nazis?
#53 - thelastelephant ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
>instructors at my school ask for preferred pronouns and have to talk about trigger warnings

#47 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
On the one hand, you've got these college-going sissies, for whom feelings are the be-all and end-all of existence.

On the other hand--- you've got communities like Funnyjunk and 4chan, where human feelings only matter because tears are delicious.

Same general age demographic, I might note.
#59 - insanefreak (11/29/2015) [-]
To be honest, with all these students finishing 'higher' education, we're in for an incredible amount of trouble.

I've started higher studies, for a bachelor as a teacher, had to abort due to lack of funds due to my parents ongoing divorce (11 years and counting). I saw people who lacked basic spelling and basic math. I was stunned. But it was a mostly female directive. If I, as a male, questioned their logic, I was shunned. But people sitting in class on facebook, on their phones, talking, that was allowed. But me asking a critical question to a flaw in the system? Oooh boy.

I'll never forget that moment. 'You cannot, under any circumstance, use physical force against a child.' Now, we can all agree, ******** . When I asked her, what if the child is out of control, and refuses to listen, and threatens other children with violence, as I have experience with children who have ADHD, or who just flip their **** over something and end up being incredibly aggressive. Her response? Send it to the principal. I was annoyed, she dodged the question. I repeated, but what if he refuses to listen? She. ******* . Repeated it. 'Send him to the principal.' After a bit more of this back and forth, she had enough of me 'undermining her authority' and send me out of her class.

I said no. She started getting pissed off, ended up yelling at me to get out. I asked her calmly how she intended to have me removed since I refused to listen. She flipped her **** , called the department head, the bulking fatty picked the teacher's side (of course), and I just stayed there for the rest of the lesson as they were indeed faced with the issue 'what if he refuses to listen'. Also, none of them had the physical ability to move my 19 year old ass out of the classroom. And calling the police would blemish the school oh so badly.
Never returned to her classes afterwards. I was done with it, done with it all.

Now I work in construction, amongst both practical, smart, and stupid people, but all of them know their job and are (reasonably) good at what they do, and know their place in the world (mostly).

But to get back on track, as I sidetracked myself a lo there, in a few years, possibly a decade or two, the older generations who know their **** will be gone, and we'll be overrun with a vast majority of people who know very little but believe they know a lot. And I fear for the economy. There are already enough stupid laws in place that force companies to hire women just to make a quota, regardless of competence, same with political parties, to hire people from colour or race regardless of ability. That is going to come crashing down on us sooner or later. Because we're putting morons high up. And the common, not highly educated folk can't bear that tax burden forever, nor will they when things go to **** at the top. We're getting more and more socialist while digging our own grave.

For me, that means evacuating Belgium asap, before **** hits the fan here entirely. First to the UK, to live with my girlfriend. If that fails, well, I'll take Russia over the US at this point. Sure, it may not be the nicest, honest of places to live, but I'll take a dictator who seems to know what he's doing and who thumbs up naked feminists over a corrupt congress and the biggest SJW horde alive.
User avatar #79 to #59 - senorfrog (11/29/2015) [-]
To add to your "can use physical force on a student", I had to almost knock out two special ed kids before. The first one was just a major annoying idiot, but the second one was a person I took notes for (wish they told me about this, I got paid awesomely for just going to school) and he seemed normalish, weird but normal. Till finals when he flipped **** , exclaimed he did not want to take notes anymore, bitching about why another of his note takers who was a girl would not bang him, and he was throwing **** everywhere. I almost did punch him out but some guards came in to drag him out, apparently this was not the first time he did this.

If the guards weren't there and I wasn't ok with knocking out special ed kids, I don't know what the class would have done.
User avatar #112 - rahzma (11/30/2015) [-]
I'm 23, been overweight for all my life and have been bullied frequently. And you know what? I'm a happy person. I don't hold any grudges. I still get angry but hey, I'm only human. I just don't feel the need to get into petty arguments, on either side. Yeah, these porcelain fragile people all over tumblr are annoying and go way to far with their so called "equality" speeches and acts, but people unnecessarily being vulgar to them in response is not going to help things.

You can't just beat an egg and make it a souffle. You have to treat it right. Mix a few things, show it some stuff it never knew existed and this is a really odd analogy but do you guys see my point? Yes they need to grow up and learn to deal with criticism and perceived threats to their person, but yelling back at them is not the way to do it. Don't coddle them, but don't be a dick either.

I could go on, but I'm just repeating myself now. I've been mostly silent about this issue but I thought for once I'd put my 2 cents in. To anyone who actually read through all that, thank you and I do hope you have a nice day. Peace ya'll.
#16 - scootabot ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
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I don't know why everyone just assumes that if someone is born in a certain generation, then they're ALL like that.

I was born in the 'participation ribbon' era, and I like to work for everything I get and strive for excellence. As a matter of fact, I'm ******* horribly depressed because I'm not in the spot that I wished I could be in.

I want to be in college and I put myself through the first semester, however, I didn't have the money to go back, so I was forced to stop and wait until I have the funds. Everything that I own, I've worked for and I'm tired of being lumped into the 'worthless' generation that does nothing but cry over every little thing.

I've got much thicker skin and I can laugh at good humor. Sure, there's something that may offend my sensibilities from time to time, but everyone has their limits.

The reason why most people would just say "Give every child a trophy" is so that they won't feel left out even after they tried very hard to get to where they are. Those who don't win awards feel like they're losers and their self-esteem and confidence suffer dramatically because of it.

Should they all earn first place trophies? Absolutely not. Second? Third? Fourth? No.

A first place trophy should hold all of the honor and glory that it originally held, however, those who participate should receive a lesser prize for actually trying their hardest. However, if a group doesn't try at all and just throws up a stupid balloon and calls it art, that doesn't mean anything and shouldn't be awarded.

However, a child who actually manages to paint a picture, who put their heart and soul into it, even if they don't have the talent, should still be celebrated, because tenacity is definitely a trait worth having.
#40 to #16 - flufflepuff (11/29/2015) [-]
"squeaky wheel" or something like that

we notice them because they're loud, annoying, and they ******** everywhere
User avatar #75 to #16 - spearmint (11/29/2015) [-]
Very relevant to the idea of grouping generations as being similar

Juvenoia
#23 to #16 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
People write articles like this to cover for the fact they're not where they want to be in life. When's the last time you've seen a self-made millionaire complaining about "this generation"?
#132 to #23 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
"self-made millionaires" are incredibly rare. The vast majority of millionares either inherited their wealth or they just got lucky and were in the right place at the right time, or knew the right people. This is why so few of them STAY millionaires for long.
#29 to #23 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
Yes, When have you EVER talked to a self-made millionaire? I would really like to know.
#99 to #29 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
Not personally you dumb ass. In interviews, in books, in general media. People like this are lonely cunts who didn't get daddy to suck their twat after he beat them so they take it out on the rest of the world, because heaven forbid every generation has people who suck in it and heaven forbid things are actually getting better in general.
#80 - thecrayzeeman (11/29/2015) [-]
"It would be easy to call protesting college students crybabies and brats for pitching hissy fits over hurt feelings, but this likely would lead to such torrents of tearful tribulation that the nation’s university system would have to shut down for a prolonged period of grief counseling.

Besides, it would be insensitive."

******* SAVAGE.
#96 to #80 - anon (11/30/2015) [-]
savage?

lol no
#139 to #96 - thecrayzeeman (11/30/2015) [-]
>anon
>not having an account
>being this pleb
#42 - clintonator ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
He already told us this
User avatar #95 to #42 - funbaggy (11/30/2015) [-]
I miss this glorious ************ .
User avatar #100 to #95 - clintonator ONLINE (11/30/2015) [-]
He goes by mistermetokur on youtube now.
User avatar #3 - Moushi (11/29/2015) [-]
I agree with most of this, but I don't agree with calling children "bad". I don't think there's a such thing as a bad child, there are children who make bad choices, have trouble controlling their behavior (Because they're children ) or are trying to gain attention because something is lacking in their life. Once you label a child as bad, that label digs deep into their being both emotionally and socially. Suddenly everyone expects Johnny to do bad things, and make sure to point it out because Johnny has been labeled as bad. Meanwhile when Johnny does something good, everyone's just waiting for him to do another bad thing and say "Told you he was bad" to his peers. Likewise Johnny is now basing all his decisions on the fact that people think he's bad. He'll think to himself "I'm a bad kid, so what is doing something good going to do for me? I'm already bad!"Calling a child bad and informing them of their bad choices while figuring out a way to fix that choice or develop off that choice to make better choices next time are two different things and have very different results. One is constructive and is able to change, while the other is said in a way that is set in stone and is harder to carve away. I see that kids are becoming more sensitive and society is appeasing them more which is causing a downward spiral of sensitivity, but calling kids bad isn't going to fix that.
User avatar #13 to #3 - wellimnotsure ONLINE (11/29/2015) [-]
You've never met a sociopath, I wish I lived in your world
User avatar #4 to #3 - quotes (11/29/2015) [-]
i think the idea would be to not call the CHILD bad but the CHOICES bad
implant the idea that johnny is a good child and it works the same way as you said "I'm a bad kid, so what is doing something good going to do for me? I'm already bad!" but in reverse they think they are good so they do what good children do

i also think its fine to call a child bad when they are acting bad, that being said only ever calling them bad and not praising accomplishments actual accomplishments not the at least you tried blue ribbon can have the effect you talked about. always being negative can have negative results...always being positive leads to the article above
User avatar #5 to #4 - Moushi (11/29/2015) [-]
Yeah, I agree with pointing out that the decision they made was bad but don't just leave it at that, for example, one would say "Johnny, that was a bad choice you made and there will be consequences. Can you tell me what other better decisions you could have made for next time." And when they do something good letting them know, even for simple things, it lets others around them know the expectations. A common tactic used in the classroom and in summer camps is "I love how so and so is working so nice and quietly. I love how so and so has their book out and is ready to go." You would not believe how quickly kids around them will get on task, even if they were completely off task. Letting kids fail is also important, it's important for them to know that they're not perfect and that there's always room for improvement. Kids who are usually great are bound to screw up eventually, they're not let off the hook either, telling them that they made a bad decision but informing them that they can improve won't put them into a pit of self doubt like it would if you said "You're a bad kid!" and left it at that. Even super smart kids need to fail every once in a while but they shouldn't just be left to that failure, there should be a discussion of how that child can grow, same with students who struggle, make a big deal about that B a student earned when they usually earn D's, or a goal a child made in soccer when they're usually on the bench, having them strive for better involves positive reinforcement. You tell a kid they're bad, or that they suck at something is just going to form a mindset of failure. It's all about balance. You don't want kids getting stuck in self fulfilling prophecies.
#9 to #5 - anon (11/29/2015) [-]
He's a child, not an adult. Something no parents seem to understand anymore. You can't spell everything out for him and expect him to understand and empathize. You have to go with positive or negative, immediate consequences, no in-between pussyfooting.
User avatar #7 to #5 - epicalania (11/29/2015) [-]
The issue is certainly far from black and white, the appropriate response will definitely vary from case to case, but I think we can all agree that this 'everybody wins' mentality is failing abysmally.

Personally, I was raised, and have helped raise children where calling them out on being bad is fine. It works. You don't have to tell a child that they're bad, you can tell them they're being bad. But I don't think there's much of a difference in psychological effects if you're not just entirely punishing them, they understand that it's not that they're always bad, unless you treat them like they are
User avatar #8 to #3 - trisketthebiskit (11/29/2015) [-]
i agree with you pretty strongly. sociologically labeling someone as something will sometimes inflict whatever the label was on the person whether it was true or not. taking groups of children in a class and tell them they are superior and that they will score better than others while telling the others that they are inferior actually has a dramatic effect on test scores. expectations that black students will score more poorly than whites is shown with similar results. now there is a difference between turning your kid into a high and mighty special snowflake and giving them the confidence to work hard and succeed in a world that doesnt give 2 ***** how you feel about a comment or opinion. having something given to you over and over can change you especially if you are a child. millennials have been called lazy and over sensitive and that we dont know the value of work. but who did that to us? through socialization we became like this not just some random mass occurrence that happened for no reason.
User avatar #71 - lotengo (11/29/2015) [-]
Reading this, im glad my dad beat me when i was a kid
#82 to #71 - thecrayzeeman (11/29/2015) [-]
It's probably the reason you ended up here.
#33 - bible (11/29/2015) [-]
Of all these new, pandering ideas such as "Trigger Warnings" and the like, the idea of safe spaces astounded me the most. I have my own safe space, I'll admit; That being the comfort of my own room and computer, away from society's pressures and awkward moments.

That being said, and assuming most everyone has a place in which they're most comfortable, why would you want to make one in college? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of college itself? Of socializing, and leaving your comfort zone? Leaving your "safe" zone to create another one engineered for you and a very select other people seems kind of pointless to me. If you are that afraid of the real world around us, I have some very bad news for you.

Safe spaces are indeed a thing, but are usually reserved for a quiet place away from society, not in its throbbing heart. That won't work well and for obvious reasons.
User avatar #103 - YippieKiYay (11/30/2015) [-]
I can understand having to learn about government etc in school, but I don't think it should be necessary at uni
#92 - vorarephilia (11/30/2015) [-]
I got a kids gymnastics ribbon, yet have never tried a somersault in my life. if i still had it, i'd frame it and call it my "award for excellence in showing up in shorts and a t-shirt to a friends gymnastics tournament"   
   
that was how I learned that so long as you look like you know what you are doing, nobody will ask questions. questions like "are you in gymnastics?" "are you allowed on this construction site?" "are you a qualified gynecologist?" Etc.
I got a kids gymnastics ribbon, yet have never tried a somersault in my life. if i still had it, i'd frame it and call it my "award for excellence in showing up in shorts and a t-shirt to a friends gymnastics tournament"

that was how I learned that so long as you look like you know what you are doing, nobody will ask questions. questions like "are you in gymnastics?" "are you allowed on this construction site?" "are you a qualified gynecologist?" Etc.
#72 - senorfrog (11/29/2015) [-]
Back in 3rd grade there was a spelling bee going on at my school. I was in the back of the cafeteria/auditorium with my friends and teacher to watch, and we all kinda joked about the kids on stage. Like how could they miss that word or who cares if a kid could spell Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. So after the bee, we all went back to class where everyone who was in the bee got a great job certificate for being in it. Then the teacher gave me one, I forgot I signed up for it and studied for all of 5 secs. So I got awarded for making fun of a spelling bee.

I agree, if most kids my age dealt with the **** I had to/ got away with what all I did then this whole generation is ****** . I only truly realised it senior year of highschool and have been trying to get better (thanks to metal music, conan the barbarian, and warhammer 40k) at facing all the **** that is dealt now days.
User avatar #66 - GabeAsher (11/29/2015) [-]
I never thought I'd say this but... man, am I GLAD I live in Mexico now lol
All we have to deal with down here is government issued student killings, drug traffic related killings, and an imposed president driving the economy further down the drain.
Thankfully we don't have that "I'm a little bitch, my opinion is the only one that matters" epidemic yet lol
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