Batman vs. Batman. Batman, you so silly. If anyone knows who made this, I give credit to that person. .. Grant Morrisons take on the situation in Joe Chill in Hell from 2008. in an infamous flashback, where he pushes Joe Chill to kill himself, since the other crimi Batman vs you so silly If anyone knows who made this I give credit to that person Grant Morrisons take on the situation in Joe Chill Hell from 2008 an infamous flashback where he pushes kill himself since other crimi
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#1 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Grant Morrisons take on the situation in Joe Chill in Hell from 2008.
in an infamous flashback, where he pushes Joe Chill to kill himself, since the other criminals in the city would kill him with a lot more malice, if they found it was him who created the Batman
#2 to #1 - hellomynameisgodsy ONLINE
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(10/27/2013) [-]
I must know how this ends! (Sauce please?)
#8 to #2 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Batman #673 by Grant Morrison - "Joe Chill in Hell" 2008

enjoy the reading
#15 to #8 - hellomynameisgodsy ONLINE
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Thank you kindly. Have a batman picture.
#3 to #1 - christheace
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Requesting source as well
#7 to #3 - wishingwell
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Batman #673 by Grant Morrison - "Joe Chill in Hell" 2008

enjoy the reading
#4 to #1 - snakefire
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(10/27/2013) [-]
What happened next?
#5 to #4 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Batman leaves him be, while Joe Chill realises how the other criminals would treat him (how vicioucly they'd kill him) when they'd realise that he was the one who created Batman. So while Batman stands on the balcony, a single gunshot is heard from inside - insinuating that Joe committed suicide
#6 to #5 - snakefire
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(10/27/2013) [-]
******* brutal.
#9 to #6 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
yeah Grant Morrison can be a fricking brutal comicwriter!

He was voted the second place of all time favourite comicbook writers in 2008, by CBR (beating ******* Neil Gaiman, creator of The Sandman, who was third), loosing to Alan Moore (which is understandeble to say the least).

He is also the one who reintroduced Damian Wayne and masterminded all those different storylines (which is also ******* brutal to say the least! {not to mention sad])
#20 to #9 - endospore
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Forgive my ignorance, but who's Damian Wayne? I enjoy comics and enjoy knowing about them, but very rarely actually read one.

The last thing I read was Civil War, and I stopped before the whole Spiderman debacle. I've never found a good spot where I want to jump in to DC. There's always way too much going on.
#32 to #20 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
just found this in my comic folder
(the last two/three are from a different storyline - Batman R.I.P. if i remember correctly)


But that storyline really shows the essence of Damian Wayne (basicly booby-trapping whole of Gotham, so he always can have the upperhand - during his battle with Tim Drake "I wasn't taught to fight fair. I was taught to win)
#24 to #20 - wishingwell
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Nothing to forgive - we all choose to spend our time differently.
But Damian Wayne is the son of Batman and Ras Al Ghuls daugther (Talia - the bitch from The Dark Knight Rises), via in vitro fertalisation, genetically perfected and grown in an artificial womb, bred to be the perfect warrior. He was trained from the day he was born to kill by his mother(who didn't didn't give him any 'real' love/affection.) and the leauge of assasins.

When Damian was a pre-teen, he was presented to Bruce, revealing his bloodline and meant to learn from 'the worlds greatest detective'. He fights Tim Drake since he wants to be the new Robin. Even tho he is spoiled, ****************** and has sociopathic tendencies, he seems to really want to be accepted as Robin and Bruces son, so he fights his urges (to kill) throughout the comic and really earns his place in the Bat-family.

He is one of the Batman franchice best characters, progression wise (after Batgirl/Oracle)


This spoiler is for people who don't mind MAYOR spoilers from the New 52 DC universe
: He is killed (a sword through his heart) by his own clone, who was grown to adult-age, size, power and speed in Batman Inc... The clone was created by Thalia since Damian had chosen Bruce's side. Batman sadly arrives too late to save him and during his funeral he vows to get revenge on the Al Ghul family and the league of assasins
#22 to #20 - awesumjjman
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Bruce Wayne and Talia Al Ghul's son, the current Robin if I'm not mistaken
#25 to #22 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Mayor spoiler concerning the Batman family and Damian

was the current robin before he died in Batman Inc. 8...

Tho im still hoping he can be revived
#108 to #5 - jakatackka ONLINE
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Thank you for using [spoiler] properly
#116 to #108 - wishingwell
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(10/27/2013) [-]
well np, least one can do, when there is a feature especially for that.. I loathe it when people spoil games/books/etc. so i don't wanna do it my self
#13 - justsomechickyo
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#65 to #13 - ianmcgunny
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#36 - anon
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I hate batman so much... he's not even a real super hero. There's nothing super about him. He's just a hero. He's basically a smart ninja... are ninjas super heroes? No. Batman should not be part of the justice league. He's a ******* glorified detective. He has no super powers. He's not super human. He's a regular ninja. Call him a hero, but not a SUPER hero.
#43 to #36 - mitchr
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Really, if you're going to attempt trolling, open it in a new tab and refresh. The self favorite makes an already obvious failure of a troll that much more obvious.
#50 to #43 - anon
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But i'm not trolling you ******* idiot. I'm serious. I honestly hate Batman. Just because you like Batman and I don't doesn't mean i'm a troll.
#54 to #50 - mitchr
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Then why the single favorite?
#55 to #54 - sanguinesolitude
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(10/27/2013) [-]
its the same troll. "he just wants to have a conversation"
#56 to #55 - mitchr
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Ah, trolls. I know it's him.
#59 to #54 - anon
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(10/27/2013) [-]
So I can find it again and go to it. It's easier than searching through the comments for it. How else would I reply to people?
#60 to #59 - mitchr
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Open it in a new tab? Refresh it every now and then?
#63 to #60 - anon
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I do open it in a new tab. I favorite it, go into my favorites, find it, right click, and click open in new tab.
#66 to #63 - mitchr
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Or you could, say, keep it open? And if you seriously believe it, stay logged in, and say it. Honestly. I wouldn't thumb you down. Other people might, but so long as you have an opinion and logical reasoning behind it, I won't thumb you down solely for having an opinion.
#47 to #36 - Petroleum
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(10/27/2013) [-]
I'm curious now, when was this first posted? Because this comment has been posted again and again on almost anything to do with Batman.
#49 to #47 - anon
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It's still relevant so I keep posting it.
#78 to #36 - theincrediblegoose
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You hate Batman because he's only a regular hero? Damn dude.. You have some high standards.
#81 to #78 - anon
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I hate him mostly because of all of the hype.
#82 to #81 - theincrediblegoose
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So you hate Batman because he has a fanbase..
#84 to #82 - anon
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Oh no. I'm fine with him being popular and ****. It's how stupid the fans are. They honestly believe he's like ******* god and can take on any super hero 1 on 1. Also whenever you try to explain why they're wrong they just cover their ears and shout "BECAUSE HE'S BATMANNNNNNNNNN!!! HE'S THE GOD DAMN BATMANNNNNNN!!!1 I AM THE NIGHT!!!"
#125 to #84 - theincrediblegoose
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If we're talking realistic Batman VS Superman of course Superman would win. They fight for the same side though so I'm not sure why everyone uses that to determine who's better. In the comics, Batman was basically a superhero. He could run faster than any athlete and lift like 1000 pounds. It was kind of ridiculous. It is a fictional world, though. If you dislike him because he's not realistic, you maybe should not read comics.
#87 to #84 - anon
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He has killed superman before, and took down the whole justice league.
#90 to #87 - anon
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I've already explained why that's ********. His writing is extremely one sided and so are all of his fights. Realistically Superman would win.
#110 to #90 - newforomador
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You keep saying Superman. You're pretty much doing the exact thing you hate people doing with Batman, except with Superman. Superman is such an opverpowered little ****, that nothing can beat him. He has different abilities, strengths, and weaknesses in different continuities, and you're just picking and choosing whichever ones are the best, turning him into pretty much a god. How about you stop bitching about how hyped up Batman is, since all you're doing is hyping up Superman to more than he deserves.
#113 to #110 - anon
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But that's because Superman is a ******* god basically. Batman is not. Superman deserves the hype because he really is this powerful. Batman is not.
#129 to #113 - holycrapimacupcake
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Batman is powerful because he can stand up to gods.
#105 to #90 - holycrapimacupcake
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Batman is the greatest unaugmented mind in his world, he has plans for every single hero he has ever met to take them down, he has 3 metric tons of kryptonite in his possession and has taken down Superman while having a heart attack.
#114 to #105 - anon
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His plans are unrealistic and would never work. If Superman and Batman were just hanging out and then Superman was like **** it and attacked Batman he would never survive. His little ******** plans would not matter. It's over.
#40 to #36 - sanguinesolitude
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powers arent what makes a hero super. They certainly can help, but being able to operate on the level of superhumans with normal abilities is what makes batman super.

stop copypasting dude, we know its you. God get drunk and get a tattoo.
#51 to #40 - anon
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No that's what makes him a hero and I completely agree with that. Batman is a hero, there's no arguing against that. He just isn't a SUPER hero.
#48 to #36 - voltkills ONLINE
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inb4 flagged
inb4 flagged
#52 to #36 - leojxxitenah
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W-why would you say that?
W-why would you say that?
#58 to #52 - anon
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Because of all of the annoying ass batman fans who just shout "HE'S THE GODDAMN BATMANNNN!!! BECAUSE HE'S BATMANNNNNNNNNN!!!!" Let's talk about the famous superman vs Batman fights that these idiots LOVE to insist that Batman would win. There is no way in **** he'd even land a finger on Superman. Superman moves 7x the speed of light. How the **** can a human even compete with that? Batman will never be able to reach into his ******** belt to take out his ******** ring and put it on. Superman would have ripped Batman's head off before Batman even blinks. But let's say Batman has the ring on. Superman has OVERPOWERED the effects kryptonite has on him for minutes at a time. He wont need minutes to kill Batman. Not even seconds. But not only that, Superman has an entire ******* suite that completely nullifies the effects Kryptonite has on him.

Anyway you out it, Superman wins.

BUT HE'S BATMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN HE'S THE GOD DAMN BATMANNNNNNNNNN!!!!

Shut the **** up.
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#64 to #58 - ljxjlos ONLINE
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Once I´m of the same opinion as anon. Batman is hella over-rated and the hype is damn annoying.
#74 to #36 - schneidend
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Batman's totally outmatched in a fair fight, you're right. That's why he would cheat and outsmart Superman. Lure him into his secret vault FULL of every shard of kryptonite he's ever found, or into a building with artificial red sunlight, use any of the number of magical artifacts he's found in his adventures, etc.
#76 to #74 - anon
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You don't think a being that moves 7x the speed of light can't catch Batman? Really? Batman wont lead him anywhere. The fight would be over way too quickly. But if Superman is already in the building. Why does Batman get to prepare and not superman? Superman would just wear his suit that completely cancels out the effects of kryptonite. Superman ******* wins 11 times out of 10.
#79 to #76 - schneidend
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Android, hologram, illusion magic/optical illusion (Batman has training from Zatara in such things), an ally wearing the costume, trickery like smoke pellets, blinding dust/poison, etc. Batman doesn't need to outrun Superman, just get away temporarily. Also, if the trap is between Batman and Superman, Batman doesn't have to run away at all.

Even if we assume Supes has his kryptonite-resistant gear, which we probably shouldn't because only very rarely does he ever have such a thing in any given continuity, that suit doesn't protect him from red sunlight or the absence of yellow sunlight, nor does it protect him from magic.
#37 to #36 - ZeDoodler
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#77 - aagottl
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Batman actually made Gotham more dangerous if you think about it, sure he stops a few smalltime criminals, but not many, and most of the big villains he made himself.
#106 to #77 - Yojimbo
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How many did he actually make though?
#115 to #106 - aagottl
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Almost all of them, the big obvious one is joker, most of them were already criminals to a certain degree but he made them supervillains.
#118 to #115 - wishingwell
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Perhaps he has made Gotham less secure.. But without his aid, the JL wouldn't have been able to defeat tons of foes ([meta]humans aswell as alien), meaning that he has saved the world countless of times, making it worth a single city's despair.

But again. It is just a fictional universe
#93 to #77 - playerdous
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And wasn't his dad doing legitimate good for Gotham.
#103 to #93 - holycrapimacupcake
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Crime was at it's lowest with his father around.
#16 - duskmane
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(10/27/2013) [-]
The number of lives saved by the killer will always be the number of lives Batman has saved, minus 2.
That makes him the second greatest hero in all of Gotham.
#11 - Thebiggeorgy
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Wanna know how I figured it was a person from UK or from around there.

Mums the word.
#62 - thecanadiankush
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(10/27/2013) [-]
or what if he shot him
#85 to #62 - certifiedidiot
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Be a terrible series.
#95 to #85 - hideyoshi
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i disagree. watch flashpoint paradox. it explores that "what if" with Bruce's dad becoming a much more brutal batman.
#117 to #95 - wishingwell
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or you know. read the comics which is ten times better - in depth story, both character wise aswell as political (and a lot more brutal)
#127 to #117 - hideyoshi
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yeah! what he said!
#96 to #95 - certifiedidiot
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More that Bruce spent his entire ******* youth transforming his body, constantly training and etc, and from looks I'd guess Bruce's dad is in his late 30's or early 40's

And from the look of Batman I'd wager he's between 30-35 and they got shot when he was like what, 8?

The reason I shoot the idea down is because I just don't see his parents transform as massively as him without being in their late 60's which would be ******* weird.
#128 to #96 - wishingwell
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.. which could lead to Thomas Wayne's use of guns/lethal force when handleling criminals, which is a lot easier compared to Bruce's constant restraint.
#97 to #96 - hideyoshi
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(10/27/2013) [-]
he was older in FP, but i wouldn't shoot it down because of that. check this Yo-yo vs Batman (Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox)eng
#46 - kotos ONLINE
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Like how Batman never kills the joker who keeps breaking out and killing hundreds of people. How many lives has Batman inadvertently taken? (Finally kills the joker in the Dark Knight returns)
#71 to #46 - schneidend
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No. 70.
#53 to #46 - anonrandom
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If that's what you picked up, you didn't read it properly. Batman twists his head just far enough to paralyze the Joker below the neck without killing him. The joker uses whatever strength he has left to finish the job. Since there are no other witnesses, it will look like batman did it and the cops will really have to go after batman.
#102 to #46 - sgtpepperz
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(10/27/2013) [-]
Yea...no.

The book (Which I have in my hand) reads;

Joker - "I'll...see you..in HELL ..."

"With a devil's strength...he twists...and twists...what's left of his spine goes...KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKRAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK.

*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!*
#109 to #46 - sphincterface
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Batman didn't kill him, he only paralized him. Joker finished the job, breaks his own neck, knowing that Batman will be accused of killing him.
#57 to #46 - aldheim
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******* this.
Heroes like superman and batman are the worst of idiots.
"Oh, you've escaped to wreak havoc upon the world and its innocents countless times? I'm going to put you back into the same, obviously useless, prison."
#70 to #57 - schneidend
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The problem with this logic is that Batman and Superman have considered the alternative, and both came to similar conclusions. It's not that they are unwilling to make that first kill or take an extreme measure, they're more afraid of being unable to stop themselves from killing and taking the easier, more totalitarian decisions every time after that.

The stories have shown time and again that once Superman or Batman make the decision to start controlling peoples' lives and killing their enemies, the world goes horribly wrong.
#83 to #70 - Tormound
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So you're telling me both Superman and Batman have so little control over themselves that doing one subjectively(it really depends who you ask) morally bad thing will turn them evil...
#88 to #83 - schneidend
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Not that it will turn them evil so much as it will be a slippery slope. Once Batman decides to kill Joker or Superman offs Lex, it would arguably get easier and easier to justify killing their enemies.

Also, part of Supeman's mission is not to fix the entire planet with his own two hands, but to be an ideal for others to strive for, to show people a better way. If Superman takes the easy way out, then that goes to ****.

And, it's not so much that Arkham and Black Gate are not effective so much as the criminals that routinely escape are the greatest criminal minds in the world. The prisons in the DC universe keep the majority of the universes' criminals in check for a long time. In Young Justice, Belle Reve Penitentiary is shown to be able to hold hundreds of super-powered inmates, who are only able to get out because Hugo Strange is in cahoots with the baddies, The Light.
#89 to #88 - Tormound
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Cause killing their more heinous enemies is perfectly justifiable, only reason the villains are alive and not killed by the heroes or the death penalty is because writers didn't want to constantly create new villains.
Most continuities have **** prisons i believe.
#92 to #89 - schneidend
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Killing their enemies lessens who they are and for what they stand. And, like I said, Batman is afraid if he can justify killing the Joker, he can justify killing the rest of them, including the ones that actually are mentally ill (Joker doesn't fit any real psychological diagnoses, as I recall).
#91 to #89 - schneidend
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Usually the bad guys don't get caught to begin with. They win, escape, die, or in the case of a character like Lex they aren't guilty of any crimes to begin with, or whatever. Some stories take place entirely within Arkham or some other facility, featuring dialogue between inmates and such and taking place over months or years. The fact that they are awesome enough to escape at all is usually used to highlight a character's badassitude more than anything. A given character is usually imprisoned for months or years at a time within the book's continuity, though it might seem faster in real time with ongoing books coming out once a month.

The popular idea that the Joker is only in Arkham for days at a time is just that, the legend becoming fact through popular culture.
#98 to #57 - friedgreenpomatoes ONLINE
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There is a very good reason why Batman does not kill the Joker:

tl;dr version: Bats and the Joker are in a psychological chess game with each other, and if Batman kills the Joker, the Joker wins.
#86 to #57 - certifiedidiot
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How are they the worst of idiots? The only ******* reason these prisons are useless as you say if because other wise the ******* series would have been dead in a week

''Day five: Batman have now locked up every villain in Gotham in a maximum security prison.

The end.''
#19 - hideyoshi
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Batman Finally Meets The Man Who Killed His Parents
#80 to #19 - admiralen ONLINE
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man the joker looks like **** in that version of batman, also his conscience looked hilarious
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#123 to #107 - hideyoshi
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its from batman the brave and the bold
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#126 to #124 - hideyoshi
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sure is! but yeah, it is a bit campier than most other series
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