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User avatar #33 - traveltech (08/04/2014) [+] (18 replies)
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And on that day, Bruce Wayne was inspired. He worked from that day on to emulate the man who saved his parents by becoming a superhero himself.
#83 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
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#7 - easternigguh (08/03/2014) [-]
But what if Batman WANTED Superman to do that?
User avatar #181 to #7 - hellsjester (08/04/2014) [-]
pretty sure that was the whole point. batman made superman do his bitch work.
User avatar #28 to #7 - trollchildxy (08/04/2014) [-]
That would be so sweet.... Like it could be superman's last gift to batman on batman's deathbed...

This needs to be a comic.
User avatar #37 to #28 - klina (08/04/2014) [-]
No, it really doesn't.
#39 to #37 - trollchildxy (08/04/2014) [-]
How dare you post your opinion.
#166 to #37 - arstya (08/04/2014) [-]
I disagree with your sentiment, but I will defend to the death your right to an opinion.
I disagree with your sentiment, but I will defend to the death your right to an opinion.
#10 - Sworley ONLINE (08/03/2014) [-]
well now his parents are alive and supermans planet is still destroyed, sounds like bruce wins.
#38 to #10 - RipperMan (08/04/2014) [-]
male on male is still gay
#32 - technique (08/04/2014) [-]
Who's the bitch now
#124 to #32 - whyamiloggedin (08/04/2014) [-]
You were just asking me to post it, didn't you?
User avatar #136 to #124 - technique (08/04/2014) [-]
#22 to #19 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Hello, do you know the source, please ?
Thank you.
User avatar #23 to #22 - loonquawl (08/04/2014) [-]
Injustice. So far it's a good series, I have vol 3 pre ordered.
Plot spoiler...
It's basically about superman turning into a dictator
#179 to #19 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
they took 'ur jobs
User avatar #12 - schmuxy (08/03/2014) [-]
I'm not sure why this is is a pro-superman point, it just makes him boring. I always preferred batman because he is human and thus vulnerable. Superman is just like that annoying friend we all head growing up with an everything-proof shield.
User avatar #53 to #12 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Exactly. He's so ridiculously invulnerable that his only 2 weaknesses don't actually exist in real life at all. (kryptonite and magic)
User avatar #98 to #53 - collateraldamageco (08/04/2014) [-]
well they exist in his universe and superman doesn't exist irl so idk why that's relevant
User avatar #225 to #98 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Because they assured he would never face his own weakness unless it was specifically put in that comic to be used against him. You will never accidentally run up against something with one of those 2 things in any natural scenario. Point being, he has no weaknesses whatsoever because his only 2 weaknesses don't exist. It's lazy writing.
#48 to #12 - UnoSkullmanx (08/04/2014) [-]
Since when was batman ******* vulnerable? He ALWAYS wins. He's more Mary Sue than Superman ever was! The number of times Bats was totally defeated, and suffered a consequence, is way lower than the number of times Superman did.

Superman is a Mary Sue, but not nearly to the degree that Batman is.
User avatar #54 to #48 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
At least he can get ****** HURT.
User avatar #14 to #12 - dogziller (08/03/2014) [-]
i find batman partially boring now because he is able to defeat superman and basically every hero/villain because "he's a detective" i think a new take on batman should be instituted, or something to shake things up a bit.
User avatar #41 to #14 - sladee ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
I think Slade is one of the few fellas to shake batman's world.

comicexplain plz
User avatar #250 to #41 - comicexplain ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Batman's definitely not the best in the DC universe. He's just smart enough not to tackle those better than him without a lot of reason, and tactics! SLADE, however, is one of those people who see's Batman as a threat and opponent, and Batman see's the same way!

He's basically Evil Batman, after all.
#36 to #14 - recognize (08/04/2014) [-]
I don't find him boring because he's like House or any other show where theres someone really good at something. Because by the end of the show, you know that he's gonna figure out the problem or fix it or whatever, but its interesting because HOW
#15 to #12 - nutellakeks (08/03/2014) [-]
wow, sorry i really didn´t read your comment until now and mine kinds sounds like a rip-off of yours.
I hereby apologize.
User avatar #16 to #15 - schmuxy (08/04/2014) [-]
you are forgiven. It's nice to know someone agrees with me, and you probably aid it better anyway.
#13 - nutellakeks (08/03/2014) [-]
superman is THE ********* superhero ever. I´m not a Batman-fanboy or something but most superhero do have flaws like they are human (therefore need to sleep, eat, etc.) or they are not (more or less) invincible. Superman is like the kid everyone knew from school who suprisingly always was better at everything but couldn`t prove it. - "you jump 4 metres, well yesterday i jumped 25 metres but i can`t prove it because my mom is washing my special shoes." Superman is litterly like that, just an abdomination of every power ever to exist.
******* SUPERMAN AND HIS ************* .
#93 to #13 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Honestly I don't read superman for his super heroism but rather how the world is affected by superman and how the world effects superman. For example in a comic(I forget which) he worked very hard to make a perfect world, or attempt to at least, which ended up with him being overworked, letting people down, and putting others in more risk rather than the safety he intended to do.

Superman is a boring character, the world around him is interesting.
#257 to #93 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
Good point but if superman is the boring part in the superman comics why not read another comic, because the world is interesting in most comics.
#112 to #13 - wagastragas ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
well you have to concider his origins, his idea was really simple, a super man, not even his name its creative, its just about a man saving the day, there was no really anything besides its, but it became dc mascot, and then new writers kept coming trying to build new stories that had to reflec that so he had allways been on top of the danger represented. his original death was honorific tought,
#123 to #13 - thesweetscientist (08/04/2014) [-]
Superman is a great superhero, he makes other heros look better.
#187 to #13 - karrotj (08/04/2014) [-]
More to it than that, you have villains who are equally as powerful, like zoom is pretty much an evil flash.
#256 to #187 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
yes, thats true but superman vs. anti-superman( aka evil flash) is kinda like super duper ********* speed times infinity vs super duper ********* speed times infinity. it gets boring when there is no limit of powers, no consequence, no neccesity of other heroes or villains
#263 to #256 - karrotj (08/04/2014) [-]
Superman actually has limits, there are actually mathematical numbers that define his power.
#275 to #263 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
i know his powers derive from the sun but he magically become a billion times stronger than the sun could ever make him. That is what i am trying to say. if you define the power of a superhero by something like the sun, then make it plausible and don`t change it every 5 issues.
#277 to #275 - karrotj (08/04/2014) [-]
pretty sure that didnt happen
#281 to #277 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
he sneezes away an "universe" (i think they meant galaxy) so yes it did happen
#220 to #13 - squeejee (08/04/2014) [-]
How can superman not prove he is better?
#255 to #220 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
see comment #254

superman is not real, the creators just make him stronger when they encounter another hero/villain in another comic/graphic novel because he is superman and his main superpower is to be always stronger than everything that ever existed. No limits
#260 to #255 - squeejee (08/04/2014) [-]
My point still remains if in one comic a villian goes " i can jump 25 feet" and then superman says "i can jump 30 supreman can still jump higher and he proves it. also if superman remained at one level of power for 80 years that would get very boring
#272 to #260 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
you maybe right that it would be boring but it seems that the writers simply don't give a damn if his superpowers (yeah i know it's a comic and **** ) makes sense. If issue "xy" says that superman derives his powers from the sun how is it possible that he sneezes an entire galaxy in issue "yx" (i think the energy to blow away a galaxy is higher than a portion of the energy of the sun)

Those kind of things bug me and they are everwhere in the superman comics
I don't wanna sound like a pessimist or an superman-hater but it really really bugs me
User avatar #222 to #13 - imnotkickthecat (08/04/2014) [-]
But superman can prove it.
#254 to #222 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
well i was more thinking like the creator/writer of superman sees another comic/graphic novel were a hero lift 10 tons and in the next issue of superman they will make him lift 256 555 999 tons just to become better even though in the previous issue supermans strength was limited to idk for example 5 000 tons (just an example)

Actually thats more or less the reason why i like quicksilver way more than the flash.
#20 to #13 - thismustbeseen (08/04/2014) [-]
Superman is always as strong as he needs to be. He does not have limitations. He will always win, and almost always has. There is no suspense in his character, or in any related plot. You know he will always save everyone, regardless of what is going on. You end up rooting for the bad guy, because that's more interesting and less likely. He has no weakness, he lifted a continent made of kryptonite into space.

Watching the last superman movie I was not thinking "will superman win?", I was thinking "what physics-breaking ******** will superman do to win this time?". If the life of the hero or even anything of consequence isn't in jeopardy, there is no suspense.

In summary, I agree with you, Superman is not just a ******** hero, he's the worst hero there can be. I challenge you to think of a dumber idea for a superhero. "Fix-everything-man" does not count, because it would be redeemably funny in how retarded it was.

Superman is a hero for 5-year olds. If I ever have kids and they've turned 8 without seeing through the BS and moved on to more interesting things (like anything else, really), I'll be severely disappointed and disown them.
#67 to #20 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
To be fair at the time the character was invented, the idea of an invincible force for good was a relatively new concept and it was hugely exciting to the children of the time, so much that Superman stuck as a regular feature and has been carried on for like, sixty years. So you have to look at it in the context of that time.
#34 to #20 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
as a 5-year old my favorite hero (ok he is actually a antihero, but i didn't know back then) was Wolverine. He is so agressive and strong. GOD i loved it. But also he was weak because everone around him was aging and he was not (or atleast super slow). He lost his memory and had that healing factor. GOD he is still one of the best and i was so happy when i saw him in the new ms. marvel issue.

tl;dr: Wolverine is awesome and **************** is not
#40 to #34 - thismustbeseen (08/04/2014) [-]
He's also Canadian

I'm Canadian
#42 to #40 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
you know blood is thicker than water but maple syrup is thicker than blood. so being a canadian is the most important thing in life
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User avatar #95 to #20 - collateraldamageco (08/04/2014) [-]
with standards like that I doubt anyone will want to give you kids
#115 to #95 - thismustbeseen (08/04/2014) [-]
Some of us can afford to aim a bit higher.
User avatar #286 to #115 - collateraldamageco (08/04/2014) [-]
arrogance is not an attractive quality
#287 to #286 - thismustbeseen (08/04/2014) [-]
I'm not being serious man. I'd never disown my kids just because they liked something dumb. Chill out.
User avatar #288 to #287 - collateraldamageco (08/04/2014) [-]
I'm so used to people saying retarded things from these tumblr posts I can't tell when someone is joking anymore, my mistake
#289 to #288 - thismustbeseen (08/04/2014) [-]
Alright. The internet will do that. Often

Good day to you.
#77 to #20 - fistmyass (08/04/2014) [-]
Agreed. **** Superman. Also, Batman has the most orgasm inducingly awsome costume known to man.
User avatar #90 to #13 - capslockrage (08/04/2014) [-]
Your analogy makes no ******* sense, and your complete autism devalues any point you made and will ever make.
#259 to #90 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
why didn`t my analogy make sense superman is litteraly everything you need him to be thats why he is boring there are no limits to his powers (even though he actually generates his power from the sun).

Why do i need to be a complete autistic kid to not like superman. Apart from the world around him barely anything is interesting. (btw the world and atmosphere is good in most comics)
User avatar #291 to #259 - capslockrage (08/04/2014) [-]
You said some ******** about how he is some kid that was better and couldn't prove it, superman CAN prove it.
#310 to #291 - nutellakeks (08/05/2014) [-]
Superman is not real my friend, he is a fictional character written by a person (multiple person) and everytime they encounter something like how fast the flash is they make superman ridiculously faster or as fast as the flash, even though superman derives (according to the writers) his power from the sun aka he can never be more powerful than his source of power. But he magically does. Either don`t limit his power by the sun rather than something gigantic like an entire systems of planets or stick to the ******* rules YOU (the writers) made.
#82 to #13 - megayoming (08/04/2014) [-]
Magic and a green rock.

Inb4 pony rage it is relevant its magic faggotry.

User avatar #30 to #13 - hawaiianman ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
He's equivalent to Superman 64
#18 to #13 - desacabose ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
yfw you find out superman actually has ************* superpowers
#163 to #13 - CubanPete (08/04/2014) [-]
I feel like someone should stand in Superman's corner for this one. God knows he isn't my favourite superhero, but I don't think a character lasts for over 75 years if he's as ****** as so many people here seem to think he is.

Superman IS the superhero. Stop the average person on the street (i.e. someone who never reads comics) and ask them to name a superhero, and chances are they will say Superman. The status he has achieved is beyond iconic; it is legendary.

When Superman was first created in 1938, comics were not for teenagers to scrutinize the pros and cons of the hero; they were for little kids to read and enjoy the exploits of a character who stood up for what was right and inevitably triumphed.

Has he aged exceptionally well? Not quite. The modern taste for darker, grittier, flawed heroes like Wolverine and Batman (and it IS a modern taste. Let's not forget how camp Batman used to be) has led to this backlash against heroes who represent a simpler, more innocent time. hence why writers have had to shoehorn in so many different ways to weaken Superman, or provide him with existential crises to allow him to resemble those characters. It's easy to take a human character with a tragic past who operates at night and wears black and turn him into the angst-filled self-doubter which modern readers want. It's far more difficult with an unstoppable force of goodness who wears blue and red and thrives on being seen and recognised.

In short, Superman was never supposed to be the anti-hero or the guy who lived in the shadows.He is an ideal for people to strive towards. In the words of Jor-El: "You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."
#252 to #163 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
yes, you do have a point but consider this if you would stop the average person on the street (i.e. someone who never really watched pokemon) and ask them the name of one pokemon the chances are that they will name pikachu. That makes pikachu a mascot of the franchise or the pokemons but not the best example.

Superman last for 75 years mainly because the added powers and/or most 5-10 years old kinda like that super buff guy with his super duper mega powers but the whole background to him and his enemies are lame.

The best example to compare superman with is son goku. Son goku had a family and plenty friends (and no secret identity) sometimes he won sometimes the enemy won. **** even his sons, friends and other were involved in the battle but with superman it´s kinda like " hey superman vs. anti-superman, who will win" and the answer is always superman because if the enemy is stronger than him the creator will give him new powers and he will become stronger.

It´s easy to be strong but hard to become strong and superman was always the best at everything thats why kids will love him for a few years but its also the reason he will become boring.
User avatar #29 to #13 - heartlessrobot (08/04/2014) [-]
You know what I want? I want him to be beaten. Badly. Some random ass, mysterious black-horse type character zips in, offs him completely and unceremoniously. Like, a wizard kill him with a single spell or some straight-up ******** like that. That's what we need.
#63 to #29 - cormy (08/04/2014) [-]
You know how one of his weaknesses is magic?   
You know what's magic?   
			*******		 friendship.   
Do what you will, I have already won.
You know how one of his weaknesses is magic?
You know what's magic?
******* friendship.

Do what you will, I have already won.
#71 to #63 - clownsplosion (08/04/2014) [-]
Sorry but that's magic being used as a concussive force. The kinetic energy is doing damage, not the magic itself. Magic only allows the beam to manifest physically. To stop Superman, you want passive/effect magic i.e. Poison, Toad, Sleep, or Death. Or elemental magic.
User avatar #74 to #71 - cormy (08/04/2014) [-]
Dude, how the hell can you tell? That's exactly what a normal flamethrower would look like if it were being deflected by a shield, it's not concussive, it's just a flow of magical energy being launched at a magical barrier and being deflected by said barrier.
User avatar #76 to #74 - clownsplosion (08/04/2014) [-]
also i'm thumbing you up because I like discussions about stupid **** .
User avatar #75 to #74 - clownsplosion (08/04/2014) [-]
The force of the flames being expelled from a flamethrower won't kill you, the heat energy from said flames will. It's not kinetic force from an attack that would kill Supes, it's after effects that would do it. About Twilight's magical beam in the gif, it has no 'type' ,it;s just a straight beam of force. Tierek's shield may be physical, but it's clearly flames so it has a 'type'.
User avatar #79 to #75 - cormy (08/04/2014) [-]
It has friendship type! It's a frieeeeendship beam!
Really though I wasn't referring to this particular moment when I was saying that friendship could beat superman.
In this particular instance it really is just pure brute force magic garnered from the 3 princesses.
The villain seen here is later defeated when they actually use friendship, 'cause friendship is OP and needs nerf.
Also they don't destroy or kill him with it, he gets put into Tartarus.
POINT BEING. That friendship is equal to magic in this particular universe for whatever reason. Become friends with superman, he dies. That's pretty passive if you ask me.
#117 to #79 - satansferret ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Did you say Tartarus?
User avatar #118 to #117 - cormy (08/04/2014) [-]
Yesh I did, but not the underworld kind of Tartarus, more like the giant barred pit kind of one like in the animated Hercules movie.
User avatar #81 to #79 - clownsplosion (08/04/2014) [-]
That's my point exactly. Befriending him would 'defeat' Superman , but trying to blast him with that magic is pointless.

inB4 Friendship is Fairy type
User avatar #84 to #81 - cormy (08/04/2014) [-]
How 'bout energy sapping magic? There are changeling beings in the show that feed on the love of the partners they take when they subvert their loved ones by taking on their form. The show doesn't exactly go into details about what happens to a partner after long-term siphoning but short-term ended up with migraines and sleep-deprivation.
They've used the magic of friendship to turn someone to stone aswell. Can Superman resist being turned to stone? I don't just mean being coated. I mean... Like. Pure magical transformation that is somehow reversible.
User avatar #87 to #84 - clownsplosion (08/04/2014) [-]
Life/emotion/strength sapping ->effective
Casting Stone/Petrify->effective
For a full list of crazy **** that can happen to superman through indirect effects look up red kryptonite
#70 to #13 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Which is exactly why he would always win against batman.
User avatar #52 to #13 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Exactly. He's so ridiculously invulnerable that his only 2 weaknesses don't actually exist in real life at all. (kryptonite and magic)
User avatar #55 to #52 - mydogpikachu (08/04/2014) [-]
actually he has a 3rd weakness, and it exist. its the inability to make a good game out of superman i like superman
User avatar #56 to #55 - YllekNayr ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
That's because the be truthful to the character, the game would be piss easy.
For any actual difficulty, he looks like a parody of superman.
User avatar #273 to #13 - blackrookfiend (08/04/2014) [-]
Superman is an ideal more than a character. He finds his roots in mythological gods, rather than the tragic anti-heroes that are so often employed these days such as Spiderman or Iron Man(people who have to sacrifice for their power). He's not a character who is meant to be thrmatically challenged, he is an aspiration and a goal. He is the Alpha in his actions and ideals according to Americans, much like Captain America. The difference is that Superman takes the ultimate power angle of the American dream to the extreme.
#279 to #273 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]
Even though i agree with you in terms of his roots and purpose. His entire existence is invalid in terms of plausibility. If i says my power derives from the sun how in the earth can i suddenly become a *********** times more powerful than the sun from which i derive my power (btw i did't absorb the sun)

For example aquaman (even though everyone thinks he is a joke) is an epitome of power. if you look at his power and abilities most of them are similiar to superman but they are not ridiculously overpowered. I like Aquaman way more than superman because his powers kinda make sense.
User avatar #280 to #279 - blackrookfiend (08/04/2014) [-]
I suppose that's the writers letting power-creep become rampant. But that's been happening with Batman too. Batman is an unbreakable symbol these days, and the character is far more mortal than Superman, yet has never actually died. That reeks of ******** to me as much as Superman does.
#282 to #280 - nutellakeks (08/04/2014) [-]

I am not the biggest batman-fan either but batman is a human and technically superman could beat him. Batman was even injured multiple times. He even quite being batman at least ones and had to take over again. He is super intelligent ( i think he has mutliple ph.ds and stuff and you know he is super rich but not "immortal" like superman)
User avatar #283 to #282 - blackrookfiend (08/04/2014) [-]
I'm glad we agree, but I think that's why Batman is a far more heinous offender than Superman. Superman is a mary sue, but that was the idea since a short time after his conception- I'm not saying this makes him a literary masterpiece, because really it just means it represents something. On the other hand, you have Batman fanboys literally crawling out of the woodwork who will defend Batman to the last and won't admit to how ******* dumb the character is in terms of how important he is to the DC universe in such a massive way that he's compared to the godly superman in terms of power and importance, despite that seeming "mortality". He's far from mortal, because any time he gets shot or has down-time is just to create an illusion. In reality, the character has more ******* plot armour than the majority of super-heroes, who are by no small amount heinous holders of this crime in writing already to the point that retcons of character death have become a norm. That's a big ******* problem in any medium, and the fact that the face of the edgy nerd cult(and I'm talking about the ********* who don't recognize the flaws of the characterization here, not the major fan-base at large, though it could be argued that a great deal of the fan-base can be like this depending on who you ask) is one of the worst examples of poor tension, yet avoids this criticism, gets up my ass far more than superman, because that guy's problems have been on the table since the 1980's.
User avatar #43 to #13 - jlew (08/04/2014) [-]
Aside from the Justice League series I've always generally stuck to Marvel characters. None of them are broken as **** and generally have some sort of weakness or flaw (Spiderman was only as strong as a normal human and just used momentum and energy to his advantage, Hulk could be stopped and unable to do anything or knocked out, Iron Man is just Batman with armor instead of bats.
#114 to #43 - moonjose (08/04/2014) [-]
spider-man actually has the strength proportionate to a regular house spider so he's able to lift like 10 tons or something
User avatar #122 to #114 - greenwithenvy (08/04/2014) [-]
But he can typically be overpowered by magic/someone else's powers being stronger than 10x a human's strength.
User avatar #27 - kouzan (08/04/2014) [-]
So he stopped Earth's rotation, reversing it and then somehow the world is not destroyed. Why can't he just borrow a ******* Time Machine like every normal villain or douche.
#127 - trollypollyz (08/04/2014) [-]
Or  this
Or this
User avatar #134 to #127 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
He had to become Iron Man just to pose a minor threat to Superman.

Why is batman so great again?
#138 to #134 - angelusprimus (08/04/2014) [-]
Power suit, synthetic kryptonite and a tank, so he could land a few punches and kicks on Superman.
And then have a heart attack.
Even at his very best Batman does not WIN against Superman.
He can achieve moral victory he can put in some punches, but Batman is just not in the same league.
#144 to #138 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
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#145 to #144 - angelusprimus (08/04/2014) [-]
Geek actually.
#149 to #148 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
#276 to #138 - germed (08/04/2014) [-]
>at his very best
>60 years old
>multiple gunshot wounds
>multiple broken bones
>multiple stab wounds

Really? I mean, really?
#274 to #138 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
I'm pretty sure they both in the same.....Justice League.
#226 to #134 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Look at them. Look at the batfags raging.
#172 to #134 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
haha fanboys are stupid. marvel and dc. uacuntbrah
User avatar #174 to #172 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Haha as long as you can feel superior, right? uacuntbrah
User avatar #160 to #134 - geneeeeeric (08/04/2014) [-]
He is preferred more simply because people don't like the idea of their fav being some super over-powered guy that can do more or less anything he wants. That's why you get all those fags saying batman would win in a fight between them. As far as i'm aware but this is nothing to go on, I know little on comics and especially DC people say it purely because batman is the only powerless DC character and requires the 'Iron Man treatment' just to take anyone down. It would be like saying Iron Man can beat the Hulk. We may wish so, but it's never gonna happen.
#182 to #160 - karrotj (08/04/2014) [-]
.....all of the robins, green arrow, sandman, wildcat, blue beetle(ted kord), red arrow, batgirl, batwoman, guardian, huntress, katana, the question, dude too many to name that have no powers
User avatar #290 to #182 - geneeeeeric (08/04/2014) [-]
Does anyone EVER read the spoilers?
#308 to #290 - karrotj (08/05/2014) [-]
Eh, i dont enjoy spoilers so no lol
#168 to #160 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
But Iron Man can slug it out with the Hulk.
And he's done it more than once, and not just to further some gambit.
User avatar #170 to #168 - geneeeeeric (08/04/2014) [-]
Read my spoiler. I know little about the comic world. If Iron Man had a legit fight with Hulk, then OK. I can't really say anything else about it. But if Hulk wanted to, you can't deny that he could literally just crush him.
User avatar #173 to #170 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
That's why he built the Hulkbuster. It was something that the Hulk couldn't just crush if he wanted to.

If the Hulk starts wreaking havoc to facilitate Tony breaking out the big guns. chances are he's got the time to suit up. If Tony Stark and Bruce Banner are out having coffee and he starts cracking wise about Bruce's dead momma and he goes all green, that's Tony's **** up, he would ****** die.

But if Tony sees Bruce having an episode in another city, he's gonna have a few minutes to suit up in the thing specially designed to counter it, before he flies over and plants his big metal boot square between the Hulk's radioactive balls for a few rounds until he can calm him down.
#213 to #173 - angelusprimus (08/04/2014) [-]
Read World War Hulk.
Really pissed off Hulk vs. Hulkbuster just means a larger crushed armor. Stark didn't last a minute.
User avatar #175 to #173 - geneeeeeric (08/04/2014) [-]
Oh... I should probably find these comics at some point... I miss a lot of stuff people argue with by not doing so... But what the hell is tony's hulkbuster made of?
User avatar #176 to #175 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
You can read more about it here:
#51 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
In the comments below: Batfags 			********		 on superman about how OP he is, yet totally accepting Batman automatically winning every fight (Even after he clearly loses) "Because he had a plan to defeat the bad guy all along!"   
Both are boring as 			****		 and we all let it come to this.   
This is why I stick to Marvel characters.
In the comments below: Batfags ******** on superman about how OP he is, yet totally accepting Batman automatically winning every fight (Even after he clearly loses) "Because he had a plan to defeat the bad guy all along!"

Both are boring as **** and we all let it come to this.
This is why I stick to Marvel characters.
User avatar #92 to #51 - capslockrage (08/04/2014) [-]
Marvel is boring, and Batman, with no superpowers has beaten superman multiple times.

Hirollin, that's because he is prepared, he is the worlds greatest detective and one of the most intelligent beings in the universe, so obviously it's no surprised if he gets himself out of most situations. (he doesn't get out of all situations, he sometimes gets saved by a friend)
User avatar #99 to #92 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Because if Batman lost to Superman, Batfags would rage and boycott the writers for showing Batsy as something other than an invincible badass.
#146 to #99 - timidotter (08/04/2014) [-]
Jesus christ, do you even ******* read DC comics? because the Batman vs Superman count is pretty much even, Batman has lost. Batman has won. Superman has lost, and won. the times Batman wins, he didn't just go out there and win, it took a bit. but you don't know that cuz you just sit there sucking stan lee's dick. ****** marvel fanboys, you are just as ****** one-sided as DC fanboys.
User avatar #153 to #146 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Ladies and gentlemen, the average Batman fan.
#154 to #153 - timidotter (08/04/2014) [-]
in no way shape or form did i put batman on a pedestal. what i did was derail you're comment on the writers never having him lose to superman. i only stated that he has lost just as many times he has won. BUT! it may as well be a moot point, considering all you know how to do is talk **** about something you apparently know little about.
User avatar #164 to #154 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Jeez, all I did was say batman was boring. No need to freak the **** out.
#183 to #164 - timidotter (08/04/2014) [-]
well, now, your opinions can't be questioned? not by the 'batfags'? all they were doing is saying something, and you shat on that with an equal amount of ******** . you're a joke.
User avatar #186 to #183 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Oh you can question it as much as you want. You just need to do so without freaking the **** out like a batfag.
#189 to #186 - timidotter (08/04/2014) [-]
again, never put him on a pedestal. i just hate ignorance, i don't give a good god damn whether or not you like batman, think he's boring or whatever. you don't know what you're talking about, and expect people to not talk **** to you? yea, half the people that praise batman don't know **** , either, but don't expect to talk **** on them and then act snotty when someone says something back.
User avatar #113 to #99 - capslockrage (08/04/2014) [-]
No, because batman is smarter than superman.
User avatar #132 to #113 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
To the point that all his enemies are defeated with a "Secret plan he had all along!"
Even when it looks like he lost, nope, he still wins, because he's "The goddamned batman!!!!"

It's just as bad as Superman, if not worse.
User avatar #292 to #132 - capslockrage (08/04/2014) [-]
Why is that such a bad thing though?
User avatar #278 to #51 - blackrookfiend (08/04/2014) [-]
Both are power-fantasies.

Marvel heroes are actually tragic, because they know suffering due to their powers and abilities, rather than gaining gifts due to the inheritance of their tragedy.

Batman chooses to be Batman, he gains his abilities by choice.

Superman's people are gone, but he never knew Krypton.

Spiderman/Thor/Iron Man/Hulk. All characters that are a subversion of this, making them a tad more interesting as a result, as male characters in any kind of literature who are romanticized don't usually suffer consequences for their power.
#58 to #51 - hirollin (08/04/2014) [-]
meanwhile batmans utility belt of like 6 pouches can beat any villain and get him out of any situation no matter how outrageous.
meanwhile batmans utility belt of like 6 pouches can beat any villain and get him out of any situation no matter how outrageous.
User avatar #72 to #58 - dehnoobshow ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Except a bullet to the parents.
User avatar #133 to #58 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
Don't forget he constantly carries Kryptonite on him at all times even when he's around Superman and it could kill him when they're not even fighting also he's somehow faster than superman too so he can put a ring on so he can kill superman with one punch!!!
#24 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Too bad superman sucks
#137 - restorf ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Batman is always prepared.
User avatar #155 to #137 - neoexdeath ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
If only Steve Irwin's research vessel had invested in these...
#8 - biebergotswag (08/03/2014) [-]
superman is way too op and is a overall 			******		 superheros for story purposes.    
if you want a real superhero, walter white is your man
superman is way too op and is a overall ****** superheros for story purposes.
if you want a real superhero, walter white is your man
#88 to #8 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Holy **** one of your comments is getting upvoted

What is life
User avatar #47 to #8 - theexplodingcheez (08/04/2014) [-]
yay, no one cares about you anymore!
#253 to #8 - macbookfan (08/04/2014) [-]
Except Walter White isn't a superhero; he's an anti-hero.
#25 to #8 - ocpeople (08/04/2014) [-]
Holy **** you're not 100% retard.
#26 to #8 - dawggz (08/04/2014) [-]
I usually ignore you when you post 			****		 because you just stopped being funny,   
But god damn sometimes you are right.
I usually ignore you when you post **** because you just stopped being funny,
But god damn sometimes you are right.
#108 - kwanzalord (08/04/2014) [-]
All these "batman fans" going ape **** in the comments.
You all just like batman because of Nolan's films.

"batman is prepared for everything" is such a stupid comment by those who don't know batman at all.

Everything is so situational. Either one of them could win. Superman technically has the upper hand in every situation.
Batman MUST plan it out ahead of time, if he is to defeat superman.

There is a REASON why batman's enemies come back over and over.
It's because he CAN'T think of EVERYTHING.
That's also the reason why, he's such a great hero to read about.
You see his weaknesses and how he fights to remove his weaknesses.
You know why he's such a good detective and SEEMS to think of everything?
It's to compensate for the loss of his parents.
What if he could have prepared ahead and known about that set up in the alley?
He might have been able to save his parents.....yada yada

Every heard of Hush?
He's a match or even better than batman when it comes to planning and setting up situations.
He's one of the villains that batman has the most trouble fighting against.

Why is Joker considered batman's biggest enemy?
That's because he's so unpredictable and pushes batman to his limits.
(not mention he's the polar opposite of batman, and what he could have been)
#139 to #108 - juffjurhaill (08/04/2014) [-]
they come back because it would be lame if it was just him beating up thugs
#184 to #108 - karrotj (08/04/2014) [-]
isnt hush the one that batgirl ran out of gotham?
User avatar #297 to #184 - kwanzalord (08/04/2014) [-]
hush has no super powers, anybody could run him out of gotham by force
#309 to #297 - karrotj (08/05/2014) [-]
Batman has no superpowers, good luck running him out of Gotham lol
User avatar #311 to #309 - kwanzalord (08/05/2014) [-]
There's a huge difference there.
He has a reason to stay.
You couldn't break him if you tried....maybe physically, but not mentally.
User avatar #202 to #108 - sphincterface ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
I've always loved Batman, he will always be my favorite superhero. But I'll admit, if Superman attacks first without Batman knowing, it's game over. Bruce will either be dead or have broken every bone in his body. If he attacks first, then it's a completely different situation. In most fights between Batman and Superman, Batman will admit that it was mostly luck that keeps him alive, because even if he's using an armored suit that is equal to Iron Man's, and the kryptonite ring, Superman could still just throw him into orbit, fry him with his heat vision, or just punch a hole in his chest with one hit. It's a mixture of preparation, skill, and a lot of luck.
#169 to #108 - arstya (08/04/2014) [-]
Honestly, I just like Batman because he's much more interesting.

Oh look, Superman punched a guy with his alien strength or used one of his many, many superpowers. So exciting.

Meanwhile Batman actually HAS to think beforehand or he'll be ****** up. I don't know...mainly just my opinion.
User avatar #185 to #169 - thekillerwalrus (08/04/2014) [-]
Don't forget that Batman also doesn't need to depend on strange super powers. Only his martial arts and gadgets, which makes him a lot more interesting imo.
User avatar #116 to #108 - Endofzeeworld (08/04/2014) [-]
The reason Batmans enemies keep coming back is because he doesn't ******* kill them.
User avatar #119 to #116 - kwanzalord (08/04/2014) [-]
neither do most of the super heroes in the DC universe.
User avatar #120 to #119 - Endofzeeworld (08/04/2014) [-]
And most of their bad guys keep coming back.
User avatar #121 to #120 - kwanzalord (08/04/2014) [-]
It's just a retort to those who keep saying "batman can think up everything"
He'd have figured out a way besides killing them to keep them locked up...that is, if he could think of EVERYTHING
User avatar #171 to #121 - arstya (08/04/2014) [-]
Also, them coming back is mainly about having more material to make more comics of.

I mean, you get rid of the Joker and you get rid of one of Batman's most exciting enemies.
User avatar #298 to #171 - kwanzalord (08/04/2014) [-]
very true.
But that's being too technical there
#150 - spizin (08/04/2014) [-]
I'm not american, comics aren't really a thing here, but all of DC superheroes, except for Batman, seems totally overpowered. Let's start with Aquaman, the runnning joke is that he's is ******* useless, yet I've learnt from various sources that he is basically as strong as Superman. Then you have Wonderwoman, same **** , super strong and super smart. Green Lantern? Magic ring that can materialize all your wishes. Everything was already said about Superman being OP, so let's get to Flash - I've never read a comic about him nor there's been any movie, but from what I've read here on FJ, he's super ******* fast, like the fastest thing there's ever been. What does he do in his stories? Are there any adversaries that can keep up with him? I mean, when he moves the world basically stands still, right?
Feel free to correct my opinion, I would be actually glad if somebody initiated me in.
#212 to #150 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Wonder Woman is strong and very durable, but unlike superman she cannot handle 15.000 super novas to the face. Hence why she uses the bracelets to deflect alot of attacks. She is a very well trained fighter due to her amazon background and can fly. But she cannot fly a gazilion miles pr hour unlike superman.

Green lantern: Green lantern is very strong but they feed of hope, if a green lantern despairs he becomes significantly weaker. the yellow ring is a fine example of one of green lanters weakness. He was also weak to wood in the old days if i remember corectly.

The Flash.
i have started picking up on some flash comics and no ******* doubt he is strong, but he doesnt have anywhere near the invulnerability superman has.

Rather small knowledge of him, but he is indeed quite strong. Yet superman his unlimited power. He can just go have a tea party in a ******* sun and get immensively stronger. Also plastic can holders kills aquaman!
User avatar #224 to #150 - leonhardt (08/04/2014) [-]
>Batman isn't OP

Ask anyone on the internet who would win in a fight between Batman and literally anyone ever and take a guess at what they'll say.
User avatar #162 to #150 - demandsgayversion (08/04/2014) [-]
I always assumed they were average-strength until they had to do some serious **** , like super-adrenaline. As for the way certain superheroes have their own cities and they take care of their own **** , for the most part, their universe just has some weird cultural etiquette regarding territory.
User avatar #156 to #150 - megaton (08/04/2014) [-]
actua;;y the flash is the most overpowered person in that group. he is essentialy the writers get out of jail free card when they want to do something cool and then just make it not seem stupid or out of nowhere. he can run through time. dismantle people atom by atom. forcefully age people. heal any wound in seconds on himself and others. he can throw balls of kinetic energy. create tornados. vibrate through walls. vibrate through dimensions. expell ghosts from peoples bodies or keep them trapped cause i dont know why. he can run so fast that he accidentally breaks away from earths gravity. and he is connected to nirvana which they rename the speedforce which allows him to pretty much go as fast as he feels he wants too. also he has the power to negate friction in an area around him which is why he doesnt turn to dust from running that fast. also why he doesnt turn into red mist when running through the rain. and as for cyborg. he is real smart. i am pretty sure he eats cybertron or something like that and just becomes a planet.
#192 to #156 - shovelsandskulls (08/04/2014) [-]
Wait Cyborg from DC comics eats Cybertron from the Transformers universe and becomes a planet? Good god you made my day LOL
Wait Cyborg from DC comics eats Cybertron from the Transformers universe and becomes a planet? Good god you made my day LOL
#191 to #156 - shovelsandskulls (08/04/2014) [-]
-implying the speed force is the same thing as nirvana.
-implying the speed force is the same thing as nirvana.
#193 to #150 - shovelsandskulls (08/04/2014) [-]
Superman has a lot of enemies that are strong as him or even stronger. ex. Darkseid, Doomsday.   
Wonderwoman was blessed by the greek gods and like her theres more people with that kind of powers ex. Shazam.   
Green Lantern and his ring are just one more lantern in the universe. Theres a lot of lanterns: Green lanterns, Orange lanterns, Red lanterns, Black lanterns, Yellow lanterns, Blue lanterns, Indigo lanterns, Star Sapphire lanterns, White lanterns, Alpha lanters. Any of this lanterns get their powers from a color and emotion ex. Green Lanterns power come from will power, Yellow lanterns (Sinestro) comes from fear, etc.   
Flash is fast but theres a lot of speedsters in the dc universe. ex. Dr. Zoom, Max Mercury, etc.    
Aquaman have a lot of enemies with his kind of superpowers. ex. Thanatos, his brother Ocean Master, Black Manta, The Thirst.
Superman has a lot of enemies that are strong as him or even stronger. ex. Darkseid, Doomsday.
Wonderwoman was blessed by the greek gods and like her theres more people with that kind of powers ex. Shazam.
Green Lantern and his ring are just one more lantern in the universe. Theres a lot of lanterns: Green lanterns, Orange lanterns, Red lanterns, Black lanterns, Yellow lanterns, Blue lanterns, Indigo lanterns, Star Sapphire lanterns, White lanterns, Alpha lanters. Any of this lanterns get their powers from a color and emotion ex. Green Lanterns power come from will power, Yellow lanterns (Sinestro) comes from fear, etc.
Flash is fast but theres a lot of speedsters in the dc universe. ex. Dr. Zoom, Max Mercury, etc.
Aquaman have a lot of enemies with his kind of superpowers. ex. Thanatos, his brother Ocean Master, Black Manta, The Thirst.
#96 - nilehus (08/04/2014) [-]
Thing is, most of the time he's fighting someone even stronger than he is. Darkseid, Doomsday, Brainiac, and Metallo can all hand Supes' ass to him in a straight up fight. He only punches everything with a crappy writer.

Except Silver Age Superman. That **** just got ridiculous.
User avatar #106 to #96 - vortexrain (08/04/2014) [-]
I don't know much about comic history, what was "The Crisis"?
#135 to #106 - norkas (08/04/2014) [-]
The Crisis on Infinite Earths was a major event in DC canon.
User avatar #152 to #135 - iamkagji ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Jesus... This kind of **** is why I stick to Marvel. At least it makes sense within the universe
User avatar #207 to #152 - vonspyder (08/04/2014) [-]
Clearly you never read the Infinity War.
User avatar #158 to #152 - megaton (08/04/2014) [-]
im pretty sure they have dealt with multiple dimensions in marvel as well.
User avatar #159 to #158 - iamkagji ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Yes, but the way they set it up isn't a gigantic *********** that only works because the authors say it does. It makes some amount of sense, and usually sticks to the quantum multiverse model
User avatar #209 to #159 - metajunky (08/04/2014) [-]
No. Marvel has had plenty of their own ******* crazy storylines that end up being ************
#2 - fezzo (08/03/2014) [-]
Being batman was always inside of Bruce, even if he did not use it to fight crime
#9 to #2 - bleeduntildeath ONLINE (08/03/2014) [-]
what are you the wizard of oz?
#11 to #9 - fezzo (08/03/2014) [-]
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#35 - anon (08/04/2014) [-]
Gotta say, the stupidest power ever is Superman time traveling. Makes absolutely no ******* sense and is inconsistent with the flight speeds portrayed otherwise
#46 to #35 - ThisAznBoii (08/04/2014) [-]
Even dumber than when Superman threw his symbol in Superman 2?
#104 to #46 - asomewaffles ONLINE (08/04/2014) [-]
Those effects though
Those effects though
User avatar #86 to #46 - Tyranitar (08/04/2014) [-]
How about his magic Great-Wall-of-China-Fixing-Beam in Superman 4?
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