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#321 - jamiemsm ONLINE (02/11/2014) [-]
why does it matter?
why not let creationists belive their thing
and atheist think their thing?

does we really have to make this big a deal out of it?
#324 to #321 - rauishin (02/11/2014) [-]
Sure this would be fine.
Live and let live is always great.
Except when creationism gets forced into school systems in a region cause 'murica.
And then people move out of the area.
And then people force creationism in that area.
And this keeps happening.
Until all of a sudden we have an ass-backwards, illogical ******** subject being taught as possible SCIENTIFIC FACT in schools in many areas of America.
And then we realize how ******** retarded it is to just let something like creationism have any sway anywhere.
Because, regardless of your religious preferences, nobody rational would want anybody in a position of authority, academic or otherwise, who believes that the Earth is 6000 years old and all contrary evidence is the work of some devil.
#345 to #324 - kilik (02/11/2014) [-]
You're right, lets just get rid of all religion because if people believe in God theyre gonna force it down other peoples throats
#353 to #345 - rauishin (02/11/2014) [-]
Well no, that's not, like, any actual religious movement's modus operandi. If you've seen some group try to push creationism onto a school board because of their "muh buh-leafs", then you would understand. Because, as far as I'm aware, this particular religious movement does not just randomly appear in schools, except in what could only be classified as unique circumstances.

So no, don't get rid of religious people. Hyperbole doesn't get you anywhere. But yeah, don't let creationism get forced down peoples throats.
User avatar #354 to #353 - kilik (02/11/2014) [-]
its not forced down peoples throats though, thats the thing. In "murrica", people have the right to chose whatever religion they want, no matter what. Schools teach science, but not as a conglomorate as some may think. Its by branches, like chemistry/stoichometry, or biology (where evolution is taught). If youre taught creationism and thats not what you believe, just dont believe it. Im taught evolution and i dont care, since many Christans actually *support* the origin of species just in the change that God is the cause
#357 to #354 - rauishin (02/11/2014) [-]
Right, yeah, you can choose what you believe. But forced down your throat doesn't necessarily on the student, but rather on the school itself, because now they would have to teach it. I personally wouldn't want a school's time and resources to be wasted on informing children of a ridiculous theory like creationism in the same class where we try to impart important knowledge and an understanding of the scientific theory itself, which we all know creationism doesn't follow. I would think any rational person who contributes to a school system with at least taxes would feel the same.

P.S. I personally wouldn't even want it as an elective class, but that's literally a personal preference and has no bearing on the argument above.
User avatar #328 to #324 - bouncearound (02/11/2014) [-]
I live in the deep south, and creationism was never been forced at any of my schools my entire life. We learned regular ******* science
User avatar #336 to #328 - loneranger (02/11/2014) [-]
Do you live in a city or a small town that people in your own state has never heard of? I'm not trying to call you a liar I'm just curious. I was born and raised in a medium sized town in Georgia and we learned about natural science, not what creationists believed.
User avatar #341 to #336 - bouncearound (02/11/2014) [-]
i live in a pretty medium sized town in Alabama, Enterprise , we learned natural science. i'd say about 80-85% of the city is christian
User avatar #346 to #341 - loneranger (02/11/2014) [-]
I'm from Thomaston, Ga but my home of record is Covington.
#332 to #328 - rauishin (02/11/2014) [-]
I didn't say it had already totally taken place. **** takes time, but that doesn't mean we just sit back and ignore it. Also congratulations on learning regular ******* science, that's my favorite kind.

P.S.- To be fair, creationism isn't just like a deep south thing, its also a Texas thing, an Arizonan thing, a Midwest thing, etc. Just cause you live in the south doesn't mean you'll see creationism and hillbillies.
User avatar #334 to #332 - bouncearound (02/11/2014) [-]
i see where you're coming from, but if anything, christianity is becoming less popular, mainly due to people on the internet who become atheists just because it's popular
#337 to #334 - rauishin (02/11/2014) [-]
That's not...totally right. Like yeah, society as we see it is slowly moving from christianity, and whether that's good or bad is debatable. However, last time I checked, Islam was on the rise across the globe, so its not like humanity as a whole has decided religion is stupid or something.

I do worry about what happens when a religion gets marginalized in America specifically. Minority groups tend to have stronger political and social pull, as it was intended according to a large number of constitutional theories. However, we as a country can't allow this extra power to let them push something as mind-mindbogglingly ridiculous as creationism onto society as a whole.
User avatar #344 to #337 - bouncearound (02/11/2014) [-]
i agree
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