Anon talks about the afterlife. . I believe in an afterlife but nat a god. What does that make me Pretty optimistic.
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User avatar #18 to #14 - HardyUndertook (03/08/2014) [-]
i want to see this whole post i really like it
#34 to #18 - josieabby (03/08/2014) [-]
Here you go.
User avatar #193 to #34 - HardyUndertook (03/08/2014) [-]
i love you
#162 - hybridxproject (03/08/2014) [-]
mfw I don't give a 			****		,  I'll find out when I die
mfw I don't give a **** , I'll find out when I die
User avatar #207 to #162 - lapsushominum (03/08/2014) [-]
Pretty much the best way to think about it in my opinion. Not much sense worrying about it.
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User avatar #30 to #1 - victhree ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
You must be fun at parties.
#103 to #1 - Haane (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm a Christian, and the thought of an actual afterlife scares the living **** out of me.
User avatar #44 to #1 - sciencexplain (03/08/2014) [-]
I want to believe something will happen afterwards. I cannot accept, nor come to terms with the fact that I will cease to exist and that everything that is will no longer be. If it will no longer be, then why is everything still existent? I begin to ponder questions and since I couldn't answer them, I don't want to accept an end fate as of yet.
#46 to #1 - blacknbluebrony (03/08/2014) [-]
That's not entirely true, at least not for me. I'm pretty sure everyone is afraid of ceasing to exist and nothingness, me included, but I believe that there's more to life than just this.

I don't really believe in any organized religion at all because I don't think that we as humans are unable to fully interpret something like that into just a book, but yet I still believe in some sort of higher power, afterlife, or whatever else you want to call it.

I just think that there's a meaning behind our existence and the existence of everything in general. If all anyone ever does in life is get birthed into existence to just fade out, then what's the point of anything existing in the first place? I simply believe that there's more to everything and that there's some sort of purpose
User avatar #57 to #46 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Not that I'm a nihilistic by nature, but have you considered that it might be a little arrogant of human beings to assume that our existence has a point to it at all? Does our isolated existence really carry some sort of higher importance, and if so, why would it?

Now, you said that there's a "meaning behind our existence and the existence of everything in general". Following that logic, it leads to: the snail's higher purpose is to, and excuse me for using The Bucket List, "lay a perfect trail of slime"; a child-soldier shot through the head, too young to accomplish anything of significance, must have existed for the purpose of being miserable up until the day he died; and a Thai woman trafficked for her body, stripped of her dignity, and raped to no end, well she must have existed to please sick men with large amounts of money!

The above is not actually my perspective, it is somewhat close to it, but as I said previously I don't believe in a world where nothing matters. I'm just trying to point out that the argument of "there must be a higher purpose or something more than this or our lives would be meaningless" doesn't hold fast, as there is an argument for everything being meaningless. I hope I don't offend you with this, I'm just trying to give some perspective.

By the way, kudos for using a frame from RA. I love that guy's work.
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#164 to #1 - billywonka (03/08/2014) [-]
I just don't want to be a slave
User avatar #186 to #1 - ffffyou (03/08/2014) [-]
die now faggot
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#115 to #1 - wingeddemon (03/08/2014) [-]
Shouldn't most, you won't see any of your loved ones, anything, or even thing, it will just be a blink and your gone, thats it. Nothing to feel, nothing to hear, nothing to think, just nothing.
#121 to #1 - wingeddemon (03/08/2014) [-]
I believe that there has to be something after death, has to be. I don't know what, but I think of it like this, If there isn't anything after death, then nothing we do matters. Honestly life is going to cease of existences someday, and if there is nothing after death, then what are we chasing, why do we continue to fight for life, when in the future, like a long LONG time from now, the universe if going to die. I f we can't stop that, then there is no point, to me atleast.
User avatar #124 to #121 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
See #46
#161 to #1 - superintrovert (03/08/2014) [-]
I was not prepared for the **** storm attached to your comment.
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#169 to #167 - superintrovert (03/08/2014) [-]
I think you're right though so. . .yeah. I'm just gonna ignore that **** and give you a thumb, cool?
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#74 to #1 - nicktheslayer (03/08/2014) [-]
I think that fear is a necessary part of my life though. I'm more scared of dying and not having accomplished anything than I am of not having an afterlife.

I'm afraid for those who believe, because they might get comfortable with the idea of an afterlife, and laze through their life, not doing much, because they have an eternity to get what they want done. Whether or not they do have an eternity to get stuff done isn't the point, it's that the life they have now shouldn't be wasted.
User avatar #203 to #74 - thefunnyside (03/08/2014) [-]
Buddy, what you do in your life doesn't matter. If you die, nothing will change. Hell, every human on this world could die and nothing would change, because we're not even a grain of sand in a desert of starts and Galaxies. If you're worth 0 or if you're worth 0.000000000000(add a few hundred more zeros here)1 it doesn't matter to anyone but you. Just do what you want and be enough for yourself, because bottom line is, we're all worthless
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User avatar #234 to #90 - nicoquitemad (03/18/2014) [-]
Skyrim deep?
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User avatar #241 to #236 - nicoquitemad (03/19/2014) [-]
Just softcore rimming?
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User avatar #243 to #242 - nicoquitemad (03/20/2014) [-]
Like that *ahem* Japanese animated cartoon where this succubus-esque demon chick has this super extending tongue and uses it for
...S-stuff.
User avatar #98 to #1 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
I like how people act like this view hasn't been posted on here many times before.
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User avatar #100 to #99 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
Yes. Did you miss the days when atheist content was way more popular on here?
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User avatar #106 to #101 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
Well, to me, it's nothing bloody new or really insightful. It's just another "religious people are (some negative attribute)" comment.
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User avatar #111 to #109 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
Har har, man.
#36 to #1 - applescryatnight (03/08/2014) [-]
i believe in an afterlife, but im not afraid of nothingness.
i dont really want to die, but i know thats something everyone does, and since i have very few connections to people and things, i can totally let go.
ill just have to find someone who can properly take care of my videogame characters.
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#38 to #37 - applescryatnight (03/08/2014) [-]
i plan on living at least into my 30s.
i aint giving them up just yet.
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User avatar #235 to #1 - nicoquitemad (03/18/2014) [-]
Something I find weird, is the whole thing about all your cells being replaced completely over the course of 4 years, but your consciousness still remaining.
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User avatar #240 to #237 - nicoquitemad (03/19/2014) [-]
Well I mean the whole yourself being conscious and that not gradually disappearing.
It's like you're a hive mind of atoms or something.
User avatar #226 to #1 - aokusername (03/08/2014) [-]
2deep4me
#105 to #1 - crazybumi (03/08/2014) [-]
Is it bad to be afraid? This thought has been going around my head. No doubt the thought of nothingness scares me and I like to believe that there is an afterlife. I mean what is the point of living if you are just going to die you know
User avatar #179 to #1 - elcreepo (03/08/2014) [-]
Afraid of not knowing, really.
User avatar #86 to #1 - jmmora (03/08/2014) [-]
i dont care if i die or not, but i'm too damn curious to know what happens after, is it valhalla? is it heaven or hell? is it absolutely nothing? is it some destiny similar to becoming undead?
User avatar #132 to #1 - drldrl (03/08/2014) [-]
There has to be something.
All of the events we perceive, are our memories. If we are remembering this moment right here, that must mean there is some function left after we die. Otherwise it would all be like sleeping and not remembering. There's just a blank spot there, because we have no memory of it. If we just ceased to exist when we die, we'd never live.

That's how I think of it.
User avatar #157 to #132 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
The brain is basically a chemical computer. If the computer dies then it is dead. The memory is gone, its ability is gone, and it's a useless husk. Humans are no different; our consciousness is simply the result of many chemical and electrical interactions in our brain.
User avatar #159 to #157 - drldrl (03/08/2014) [-]
But without a memory of something, we do not perceive it. Just a blank spot in our life. Ever go to a doctor and get put to sleep? I was awake for thirty minutes after, but know nothing of it. I have no memory of it. Just a blank spot. If our consciousness just dies, our memories do too, meaning ALL of life should be nothingness.
User avatar #174 to #159 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Ignoring the chemical/medical arguments that refute your claim, I'm going to try to adopt your perspective.

First, let's assume that all that we,, the humans experiencing 2014, are doing nothing more than remembering and we are already dead. Within our memories we can observe that there is, without a doubt, such thing as time. These are all events of the past, after all, as we have already died and are just remembering things.

How long have we been dead, though? A minute? An hour? Twenty years? A millennia? Time goes on after people die, this is common knowledge. We've all observed it at some point, even if that's only within our memories of the past. As time goes on, there is a logical conclusion that there must be a present.

In the present, humans may or may not exist. Hypothetically speaking, let's say one does. He or she will be observing the present, not their memories. They will see things as they happen, not remember them after their death. Thus, the claim "all the events we perceive" cannot apply to all humans. That one human is experiencing the present and nothing more, he is not remembering stuff after he has died. He is alive in the present, and therefore you can live even if there is nothingness after the matter.

The problem with your logic is that unless you claim time works only in memory, it tears itself apart.
User avatar #166 to #159 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
A lack of perception does not make something stop existing, nor does it make its past existence no longer true. Matter exists regardless of whether there is an observer or not.
User avatar #171 to #166 - drldrl (03/08/2014) [-]
You don't get what I'm saying here. If we perceive it, we continue to exist. Without a consciousness that continues to exist, we do not have memories to perceive, and thus there is nothingness, to you. You could still have existed, but you would never perceive it.
User avatar #173 to #171 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Do you mean that we can't exist unless our consciousness is immortal? You're not very clear in what you're trying to say.
#76 to #1 - thefiddler (03/08/2014) [-]
honestly, im super hyped for nothingness
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#61 to #1 - theruse (03/08/2014) [-]
Nobody really knows what happens when we die.
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User avatar #65 to #62 - steammadewalrus (03/08/2014) [-]
My version of hell is you have every game in existence right in front of you, ready to play, but you can only play them offline.
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User avatar #67 to #66 - steammadewalrus (03/08/2014) [-]
Goddamn you're fast.
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#54 to #1 - Rascal (03/08/2014) [-]
You're absolutely right, I believe. My philosophy class introduced me to the recordings and books made by a man named Alan Watts. After listening to him and learning some things in my class, I am not as afraid of death as I once was, with some of the ideas that Watts speaks. I recommend listening to the guy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssf7P-Sgcrk
User avatar #45 to #1 - rarityrarityrarity (03/08/2014) [-]
afraid? not exactly.
I just can't imagine stopping to exist, the closest thing is falling asleep, how you suddenly aren't aware of anything.
User avatar #29 to #1 - calawesome (03/08/2014) [-]
what is there to fear if there is no afterlife? we wouldn't have any knowledge of it.
#41 to #1 - erikstadt (03/08/2014) [-]
The way I see it is that you are going to be dead for so long that anything can happen.
The way I see it is that you are going to be dead for so long that anything can happen.
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User avatar #26 to #1 - kurbeh (03/08/2014) [-]
The replies to this are so deep I would need a shovel and twelve Africans to dig them out.
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User avatar #3 to #1 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
or you know hope for more? not out of fear but out of hope for a more meaningful existence, that it isn't all just for nothing in the end. I think most people can accept there not being more after death, but will still hope that there will be
User avatar #22 to #3 - techjoker (03/08/2014) [-]
That's pretty much what rahtoga said
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User avatar #28 to #23 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
no the difference is hope and fear. But I guess you could argue that is some what two sides of the same coin
#32 to #28 - bann ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
If there is a nothing, I won't know it when I'm dead, so I'll live like there's something and die with something
#31 to #28 - elaxx ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
It's like saying that respect and fear are the same things. No, they aren't. It's all about what you consider to be hope and what you consider to be fear. I'm pretty sure there are cases of hope without any fear, same with fear without any hope. People shouldn't include only cases when both, fear and hope, are present.
It's like saying that respect and fear are the same things. No, they aren't. It's all about what you consider to be hope and what you consider to be fear. I'm pretty sure there are cases of hope without any fear, same with fear without any hope. People shouldn't include only cases when both, fear and hope, are present.
#59 to #31 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Yes, but in this case it's arguable they are two sides of the same coin.

>They fear the idea of dying and there being nothing.
>They hope there is something more than nothingness

You could say that they hope there is something more, hope for a meaningful existence, because they are afraid that their existence is without meaning and that there is nothing after death.
#64 to #59 - elaxx ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
And this is the exact case when both are present. Everyone is afraid to die. It is biological, natural. And since, unlike most animals, we have an ability to think, invent, devise, we use it to come up with something to escape the pure fear, suggest something that can't exactly be disproved. Thus dispelling our fear of our inevitable end.  I'm aware that it's far more complicated than that but I think this particular view is relevant at the moment.    
   
I was just concerned about the fact that people often identify the meaning of one word with another.
And this is the exact case when both are present. Everyone is afraid to die. It is biological, natural. And since, unlike most animals, we have an ability to think, invent, devise, we use it to come up with something to escape the pure fear, suggest something that can't exactly be disproved. Thus dispelling our fear of our inevitable end. I'm aware that it's far more complicated than that but I think this particular view is relevant at the moment.

I was just concerned about the fact that people often identify the meaning of one word with another.
#231 to #64 - nicoquitemad (03/18/2014) [-]
I wanted to reply something about this not meaning there might not be something, but then I realized I'm just in the case of the coin myself.
User avatar #210 to #3 - nustix (03/08/2014) [-]
That is why I want to become a researcher so I can mean something to this world to future generations. I want to be remembered as that dude who did something which made the world a better place.
#12 to #3 - castereleven (03/08/2014) [-]
Plus there are so many things in our universe that are still unexplained and are often put off as "scientific anomalies" , so it is possible that we don't just stop existing. A scientist is always questioning and people who think we stop existing after death are likely wrong once you put all the factors in to consideration.
#16 to #12 - Rascal (03/08/2014) [-]
Well your brain stops existing once it stops working, so no memories, no personality, no senses of any kind. Sorry, sentience is based in biology not spirituality.
User avatar #17 to #16 - metalmind (03/08/2014) [-]
It's not your brain, it's your mind that stops existing.
The brain just decomposes, but it doesn't stop existing.
User avatar #233 to #16 - nicoquitemad (03/18/2014) [-]
But neither explains it properly.
User avatar #19 to #12 - metalmind (03/08/2014) [-]
I agree with what anon said.
I mean look at the actual facts:
We know that due to strokes, Alzheimers or other medical conditions causing certain parts of the bran to die, certain parts of the mind are destroyed.
We know for example that the ability of speech, memories, even the personality can be destroyed.
So we can determine that as certain parts of the brain die off, cetain parts of the mind corresponding to it dissapears.
So how would the reasonable conclusion be that when the whole brain dies, the mind would stay intact, or even return to beeing fully intact if certain parts of the brain died earlier (although when the brain dies, certain parts would certainly cease activity some moments earlier than others, due to a different distribution of oxygen)?
User avatar #144 to #12 - jukuku (03/08/2014) [-]
"people who think we stop existing after death are likely wrong"

No. Given the evidence and knowledge of biology, consciousness is a function of brain activity, when you die your brain stops functioning. Your neurons will eventually be completely dead. Consciousness is something that can be altered in the physical world with drugs. Your consciousness is not something beyond our world. It sucks but this is all we have, once it's over, it's over.
#15 to #12 - ennemi (03/08/2014) [-]
well we know that we when we die we don't stop existing. In fact there's a high probability that a few hundreds of thousands of the atoms that compose your body at the moment were in the body of Julius Cesar the body of Julius Cesar. But do we conserve our consciousness is an entirely different question and your guess is as good as mine on that.
User avatar #20 to #15 - metalmind (03/08/2014) [-]
Well, you can always look at evidence:
When parts of the brain die, parts of the mind are destroyed. We can observe that happening as the result of e.g. strokes or Alzheimers.
So why, if the entire brain dies, should the whole mind stay intact or revert to beeing intact?
Although you always exist in certain times in space, but it is entirely unlogical to assume that your mind exists after or before those points in time where your brain was intact.
Also, thanks to the conservation of information principle, the information how our minds were at any point in time is never lost.
#202 to #3 - twofreegerbils (03/08/2014) [-]
I want to believe in an afterlife because of my immense dissatisfaction with this world.
User avatar #52 to #3 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
That's nice, but that doesn't explain **** like Christianity and Islam that insist that a lot of people have to go to Hell instead of everyone getting a more meaningful existence and a second chance after death.
#232 to #52 - nicoquitemad (03/18/2014) [-]
If you assume they are religions built by humans, it's a motivator. Firstly it enforces good behavior  I mean, the bible is basically a 5000 year old handbook for morally raising your kids without them being able to question if you're right or not, because if they do they'll go to hell , and secondly, fear is a great motivator for getting more people to join, especially in times of hardship and death.
If you assume they are religions built by humans, it's a motivator. Firstly it enforces good behavior I mean, the bible is basically a 5000 year old handbook for morally raising your kids without them being able to question if you're right or not, because if they do they'll go to hell , and secondly, fear is a great motivator for getting more people to join, especially in times of hardship and death.
User avatar #238 to #232 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/19/2014) [-]
The Bible isn't a hand book for that though since literally the only requirement is belief in Jesus. If you believe then you go, good or bad. It does outline morals and such, but it makes it clear that those aren't a requirement.

Yeah, that's probably the real reason.
User avatar #239 to #238 - nicoquitemad (03/19/2014) [-]
They sorta ****** up with that post 3000 year edit, didn't they? Then again, who doesn't like love
User avatar #131 to #52 - revengeforfreeze (03/08/2014) [-]
Rebornpooper, could you come in here and see if this guy is as airtight as he seems in his arguments?

I just like watching debates
No h8, nigel
User avatar #133 to #131 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
No, it's fine. It's good to regularly inspect and question what you believe or else you end up like the people I'm ridiculing.
User avatar #134 to #133 - revengeforfreeze (03/08/2014) [-]
Ya, this guy is just one of the few great arguers for Christianity that I've seen.

We'll see. I agree in your views there, life is a chemical accident and all that but who knows.

have you seen this guy
www.youtube.com/sisyphusredeemed ?
User avatar #145 to #134 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Wow, they exist? The best I've got was a guy who had an interesting argument that the universe was God, but that was a more Deist argument than Christian so I can't really count it.

There's really interesting work into abiogenesis that shows a pretty clear, but as of yet unproved, way that life formed on the planet.

No, I've never heard of him.
User avatar #147 to #145 - revengeforfreeze (03/08/2014) [-]
As far as I've seen, yes.

I see, I've also heard something about panspermia, I'm not too much into it though.

You should check his videos
User avatar #151 to #147 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Huh, that's interesting.

I've heard about it too, but there's not enough evidence to support it for me to think it's likely.

Alright, I'll watch one or two and check it out.
User avatar #156 to #151 - revengeforfreeze (03/08/2014) [-]
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Yes, he has videos on almost literally everything. He even does these remixes of that guy "you can't explain that" and ICP "Miracles", them being the ultimate melting pot of ignorance.
User avatar #175 to #156 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I like it. Interesting stuff, thanks bro.
User avatar #114 to #52 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
You're as condescending as I, mon.
#118 to #114 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
At the risk of being fedora'd (what a 			******		 meme by the way), there's nothing condescending about making people justify why they believe in something as ridiculous as religion, especially one that insists that all people that don't lick Jesus' asshole will be tortured for eternity as some sort of threat to get you to believe a line of 			****		. If I told everyone that our lives were controlled by Santa Claus, who is also the creator of our universe and of all life, all because a book said so (a book that he supposedly wrote), I would be called insane. But if enough people believe in an insane idea then it becomes accepted and normal, and whoever says as such is derided for questioning its ridiculousness.
At the risk of being fedora'd (what a ****** meme by the way), there's nothing condescending about making people justify why they believe in something as ridiculous as religion, especially one that insists that all people that don't lick Jesus' asshole will be tortured for eternity as some sort of threat to get you to believe a line of **** . If I told everyone that our lives were controlled by Santa Claus, who is also the creator of our universe and of all life, all because a book said so (a book that he supposedly wrote), I would be called insane. But if enough people believe in an insane idea then it becomes accepted and normal, and whoever says as such is derided for questioning its ridiculousness.
User avatar #123 to #118 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
Oh wow man. Oh wow. You were already in that territory anyway, but I think fedora jokes are rather trite. Your views towards religion itself sound rather rebellious considering how much you hate something you also say that doesn't exist (inb4 you say you can't hate something that doesn't exist).

So, you're a materialist (as in the philosophy)?
#136 to #123 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Hey, why are you judging my views? Aren't we all supposed to respect each others beliefs, no matter how ridiculous and insulting?

I do hate religion. I don't hate religious people, but I can hate their beliefs just fine without any conflicts with the previous statement. Whenever I draw parallels that are no less ridiculous than someone's beliefs they say "hey, you're just a mean, rebel teen", but they never actually inspect their own beliefs to see if I have a point or not.

I'd never heard of it prior to now, but reading a bit on it I think I do support the philosophy. Everything in science so far supports that idea anyways, so it makes the most sense to me.
User avatar #140 to #136 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
They don't inspect their own beliefs because you are extremely brash in how you handle it. You can make religious people question what they believe, it just takes tact which you seem to lack.
User avatar #143 to #140 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I used to be more gentle with the points I make, but even then you end up insulting them just by the mere act of questioning. I've only met one person, IRL or on the internet, that actually accepted any questions regarding his religious beliefs, but everyone else (I know that anecdotal experiences aren't indicative of everyone) that I've met simply got angry if I asked questions they didn't like. After the first dozen times I mostly stopped even discussing religion, but the few occasions I do I end up coming off as an ass.
User avatar #150 to #143 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Fair enough, as we are using anecdotal evidence I will counter that I have managed to have some productive discussions about religion, although they were all IRL and I live in a fairly secular community.

I understand that you get frustrated, as there are some people on both sides(theists and atheists) that resemble zealots in their devotion to what they believe(or don't believe). The good thing about them getting angry about you just asking questions is that means they are getting frustrated because they can't find good answers and are seeing problems with their own two eyes in regards to their logic. It's a slow, arduous process, but you can turn fanatics into mild believers with dedication.

Whenever I end up having to deal with someone who makes religion not a part of themselves but a whole and they insist on arguing with me about it, a few well placed doubts and they'll mellow down a little after they finish raging. Eliminating religion is, in my opinion, not an ideal goal. It gives people who follow it hope, no matter how irrational it is. Making sure it's "moderate" belief as opposed to incoherent divine rage that blows up shopping malls and hits trade centers? That's a goal.
User avatar #163 to #150 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm not saying they don't happen, just that they have never happened to me. I do live in a pretty conservative and Christian area though, so that might explain a lot of it.

I know that in my head, but the problem is that those same people convince others that their baseless beliefs are an unquestionable truth. If it was just them then it wouldn't be a big deal.

I disagree that we need religion, but I definitely agree that more moderates is a good thing.
User avatar #177 to #163 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Honestly, the area that you live in is likely more commonplace than the community I've experienced growing up. Internationals tend to be more open minded, so I guess that's a factor.

I hold fast to the idea that religion isn't always a bad/unnecessary thing, but moreover it seems I misjudged you. You act like an ass, but you are certainly not one. I wish you luck living in an obviously difficult area, and hope that you can keep your cool when debating them.

As I said before on another comment, if they believe there is no room for debate and that it is unquestionable, there is no room for debate. Not because they are right, but because it will reach no ends and will only leave all involved angry as they will disregard all arguments which contradict their views. Unless it's a life/death situation, I honestly wouldn't bother debating with those types. They're decent people(at least in my experience) and make good friends, but avoid religion when around them if at all possible. It's just not worth it.
User avatar #199 to #177 - hotschurl (03/08/2014) [-]
To klaes, and nigeltheoutlaw, i just wanted to express my respect for you for your discussion. You both make excellent points and kept the discussion civilised, a thing not very common on the internet, and i really enjoyed reading it.
User avatar #223 to #177 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I wouldn't know, I've only lived in a few cities in my life. It's hard to get a gauge on the prevailing mentality in America.

Thanks. Like I said, I get bristly mainly due to the people I've encountered in life. It's wore me down.

That's a smart line of thinking, I wish I had thought of it myself sooner. I do have a couple of fundie friends and I just ignore any and all religious discussion they try to initiate since I know it won't end with either of us feeling enlightened or happy.

You're welcome hotschurl.
User avatar #137 to #136 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
Alrighty then. I just hate things. A lot of things. I do what I feel like.
User avatar #122 to #118 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Right, there's nothing condescending about that action alone. It IS being condescending to call people's beliefs ridiculous and use the phrase "lick Jesus' asshole". I'm an atheist and I have argued with people about religion before, but there is no need to mock them.
User avatar #127 to #122 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
You're right! I should respect anybody and everybody's beliefs, no matter how unrealistic and unfounded. **** , I should just covert to Scientology or Hinduism right now as penance for judging such beliefs.

I wasn't mocking, I was drawing a parallel with a hypothetical situation to show the ridiculousness. A better example of such is the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster; same concept, though much more fleshed out.
User avatar #135 to #127 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Calm down and read instead of getting irritated. The problem with your argument against sneleoparden is that while you are logically far more correct than he is, you come across as a total asshole. This is fine if you want to prove to whoever else reads this who somewhat shares your views(like me) that you are right and they are wrong, it works.

If you want to convince people who hold different views than you to change their perspective you cannot roll in like a truck. It puts whoever you're up against on the defensive and makes them shut their ears to your actual message, they'll only look at the fact that you're insulting them. Instead of using the FSM(which is mockery, to an extent) use Russel's teapot. It makes people think about burden of proof and justifiable belief in a way that is less crushing to their own self-image, which is effective if you actually want people to listen to what you're saying.
User avatar #148 to #135 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I am calm, though I am also a little irritated. I do come off as an asshole here, but I tend to get pissed when people have the whole "God is benevolent, but you're going to Hell unless you buy my product believe!"

I don't know an Atheist who has ever convinced a believer to actually question their beliefs (not to say it hasn't happened, but I've never seen it personally). I've actually used Russel's Teapot multiple times, but I usually get the shrug and "it's all about faith, not proof" response, rather than introspection to what they think. I agree that it's a kinder way to probe their beliefs, but I've had equally little success with it.
User avatar #160 to #148 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
The idea of a benevolent God is paradoxical in nature, especially so in the Old Testament. Ironic as it is, reading the Bible was what made me agnostic as opposed to Christian, and I then shifted into atheism later. I have a grudging respect for steadfast Christians who believe that God is actually cruel and malevolent(they are a rare, admittedly) and I do tease people with passages from the Old Testament(I google that **** , people who memorize it for the sake of argument are trying too hard) when they argue that God is kind.

I have convinced a believer to question their beliefs, once again, anecdotal but it's the best I can offer. It didn't have the intended effect as my (ex)girlfriend shifted from hardcore Christianity to New Age Spiritualism and con-men like George Anderson after a long and confusing process, but she did drop her devotion to every single last word in the bible which made her a safer person to be around in general.

To the people who say "it's all about faith, not proof" just don't bother. They obviously aren't interested in a logical debate over it.
User avatar #172 to #160 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I don't really address the Old Testament since that doesn't apply to Christianity (supposedly), and I feel it's unfair to bring it up unless they do first by quoting Leviticus or something. I also have a respect for "fire and brimstone from a wrathful God" Christians, and I don't give them **** really, though I enjoy speaking to them about it.

I realize it happens, it just seems unlikely to happen with me, especially considering the area I live in. That isn't the best shift, but it is better fundamentalism.

It's actually why I stopped trying usually since that was the closing response I always got.
User avatar #138 to #135 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm sorry, I thought the guy was handling the discussion in quite a fair manner, and I didn't feel attacked at any point
User avatar #142 to #138 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
Then you're a very tolerant person. I was linked to this discussion by someone who was seriously angry.

"I'm a good person. If there's a bigger requirement than that then both those religions can gargle my sweaty balls."

Not the best handling of it I've ever seen.
User avatar #149 to #142 - revengeforfreeze (03/08/2014) [-]
Who linked you?
User avatar #152 to #149 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
I have friends on Facebook which have been browsing FJ as anons since it was green, they showed me this website. One of them in particular I tend to have these kind of debates with, and they tried to link me to this discussion as an "example of zealous atheism". I disagree with her opinion, particularly now that nigel has explained why he comes across as irritated.
User avatar #146 to #142 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
hey everyone has their languages, the guy is just saying he doesn't want anything with something that works like that
User avatar #53 to #52 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
well those two believes build on there not being anymore chances than this life, so it's all about what you do with this one chance you've been given
User avatar #56 to #53 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm a good person. If there's a bigger requirement than that then both those religions can gargle my sweaty balls.
User avatar #158 to #56 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
(replying a bit earlier to make room)

from what I can hear from you, you seem to lack some of the basic things in Chrstianity. as how prayer works and now this with if you don't know then you get to heaven, I don't remember reading that, so would love to hear how it the bible is pretty clear on this, especially when it is quite clear on sending you to spread the religion, which wouldn't make any sense if you got to heaven if you didn't know
User avatar #168 to #158 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Prayer is asking God for something, is it not?

As for people who d not know of Christianity, refer to:

www.net-burst.net/hot/faith.htm

“And I say unto you, Many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 8:11.

Additionally, if any un-evangelized heathens recognize God's glory in creation and conscience then they will be accepted into the kingdom of heaven. However, there is some debate among religious scholars that heathens can't go to heaven without knowing Christ, even if they had no way of knowing. In my opinion it is clear the opposite would be true, especially with a benevolent God, but when it comes to the Bible there are many interpretations so it's not surprising that yours differs.
User avatar #178 to #168 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
yes and no. prayer is humbling yourself and seeking out God, it's to seek out God's will and power to embrace you in your situation. and it has such power that it can be used in any situation, it is to ask for God's will. and when I believe God is good then his will is good too. I must admit I feel a bit stupid here because I've absolutely no idea what you're trying to prove with what you but forth towards the "if you don't know you're saved" issue. as far as I understand many shall come from east and west could easily mean, and in my opinion does mean. that the faith will be spread to save people to the east and the west. and I don't know where you've got the last part from. But yes Jesus says no one gets to Heaven without him
User avatar #181 to #178 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
So prayer works regardless of whether God actually does what you need him to do?

I'm not trying to make you feel stupid, I was just trying to see why spreading the word of Christianity is necessary if unevangelized heathens went to heaven, but I see now that the passages I saw as clear could be overridden by other passages in the Bible or interpreted differently.
User avatar #184 to #181 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
it lies in faith to God, he will give you what you need when you seek him out, but of course it also depends on your faith in him, as Jesus says you can move a mountain if you have enough faith.
anyway I was just afraid i didn't understand the arguments you put out towards the "not knowing savings" because in no way through the bible do I see anything speaking of this but the opposite which is to spread the faith, which only makes sense if it is to actually save them. So I see nothing that speaks for anything good in not telling people
User avatar #188 to #184 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I see. Thank you for speaking to me about this.
User avatar #190 to #188 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
well that was a bit unexpected reply I would still like to pray for you if you'll want it though. I truly do believe that what I have is the truth and as you is really ready to fight for it. I know my understanding of the world is bound in a completely different kind of logic, but it works, so I would be stupid not to believe it
User avatar #69 to #56 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm not certain with Islam, but Christianity doesn't care about how good or bad you are, it's about you accepting Jesus as your savior because you have sinned, and therefor you are damned to go to hell, but he will take your sins on him so that you can stand clean before God.
User avatar #72 to #69 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, I know it doesn't, which is why it's a **** religion. A rapist and murderer is cleared, but I'm not. Sounds real ******* benevolent, nameen?
User avatar #73 to #72 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
hey everyone is given the same chances no matter their past
User avatar #75 to #73 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Yes, I'm glad that believing in Jebus negates all the evil things you've done in the past, but not doing so damns you immediately and without exception. Even if God and Jesus came down and personally showed themselves to me I wouldn't worship because that's a retarded condition to have for your afterlife, especially for a "benevolent" god.
User avatar #79 to #75 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
maybe you're forgetting the most important part of salvation, which is acknowledging that what you're doing is actually wrong, right now you're "unclean" you have made yourself dirty and as it is right now you refuse to be cleaned because you haven't acknowledged that you have fallen away from the true purpose of your existence
#80 to #79 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm not dirty. I do not have sin that I did not earn. Nothing I have done in my life is worth eternal reward or punishment. To argue otherwise is irrational and downright sociopathic, especially if you support and aren't bothered by a system that damns good people. The only purpose that man has is to reproduce and maintain our species existence; any further purpose is one that we and we alone ascribe to ourselves.

I'm my own damn god and no creature or being can, has, or will hold dominion over me.
User avatar #82 to #80 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
as I said, you have yet to acknowledged that there's more in this world than just chance and survival. there is much more to life than just reproduce and maintaining your species' survival.
#89 to #82 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
No, there isn't. Life is a chemical accident; a self reproducing organic glitch whose sole purpose is maintaining its own existence, but one that is so fragile and unimportant that it could be wiped out at any time by any number of cosmic occurrences that we have zero way to prevent or avoid. Attributing a greater, overarching purpose to us is like doing the same to a computer glitch that you can't get rid of: it's irrational. However, more than that, actually claiming that the people who disagree with your irrational views are the irrational ones that haven't seen reality isn't just irrational, it's pathologically stupid and is detrimental to society.
#228 to #89 - Rascal (03/08/2014) [-]
Even though I agree with you, you handled this whole argument in such a poor, arrogant way that I'm inclined to think you're in fact a dumbass that just looks for excuses to lash out on people. You might want to educate yourself on how to debate things in a level headed manner as to not alienated other readers.
User avatar #229 to #228 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/09/2014) [-]
>anon
Sign in and maybe I'll listen to you. Additionally, if you actually read the whole thread you would have realized that my stance softened somewhat. Besides, my demeanor doesn't change the accuracy of my statements, and if you wanna be buttmad because of it then go ahead.
User avatar #92 to #89 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
well let's assume that I've experienced that my belief is truth and that what I think here actually works, and that I can experience God doing things in my life and let's say cure people. So I have no reason to believe that it isn't true, then wouldn't it be irrational of me to deny what I in a scientific way have been able to experience as truth?
#93 to #92 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Anecdotal experiences aren't any sort of proof for anything, especially since most encounters with God or any sort of religious experiences are the product of mental disorders, especially schizophrenia. They aren't scientific in the slightest, but since you brought up science, there has never been any scientific support for the existence of any higher power or any "divine" miracles, even if you saw or heard something that you perceived as such. Again, anecdotal experiences are zero indication of truth.
User avatar #165 to #93 - greedtheavaricious (03/08/2014) [-]
Listening to Debauchery right now.

This pic pleases me.
User avatar #95 to #93 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
say what you want I've seen and experienced too much to not believe in an spiritual existence. I believe Christianity is the answer to this side, I could be wrong, but I am convinced that this side of the world exist. I wish I could prove it to you somehow, maybe you would be up for that?
#97 to #95 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm not saying what I want here, you brought up your experiences as scientific support for your views and I am showing you that they are not scientific support in the slightest. Again, the vast majority of supposed otherworldly encounters are the result of mental illness or injury (such as trauma or a head injury).

If you could provide me with any real scientific, peer reviewed studies that proved that God existed, or Jesus preformed miracles, or that heaven and Hell existed, I would change my views in a heartbeat. Just. One. Thing. That is far more than I can say for religious people, but I am a reasonable man. Why believe something that is proven to be incorrect? Unfortunately, all there is is a book that is claimed to be written/ inspired by God, but the only proof for this claim is in said book. Such circular proof is questionable at best.
User avatar #107 to #97 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
no, and I am sorry for saying scientific proof before I regretted it as soon as I send it, there isn't scientific proof exactly for the reason you put out that if there was proof then believe otherwise and as we see people believe all sort of things. But what I would is ask you if you have anything in your life I could pray over, and of course it won't prove anything what ever might happen to that subject, but I believe in a power in prayer, and I would love to utilize such a thing over any person for the better of their life. I know this is way out of science and comfort zones, but if you would be up for it I would give it a try.
User avatar #116 to #107 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
Ok, I'll let it go. It may be sufficient proof of the truth for yourself, but to claim that everyone must except your truth as reality as a result of your personal experiences is silly, don't you think>

Prayer? I'm condemned either way, so why bother? I doubt God will spare a good man who doesn't believe or worship just because you ask him to. The thought is kind, but based off of your own religion's rules it would be an exercise in futility to even attempt it.
User avatar #125 to #116 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
(we have too many replies so will go on here)

I've heard of that, with if they don't know they don't go to hell, but I doubt it. the Bible does several times ask people to spread the belief.
assuming everything I believe is right, it will make a difference indeed. Jesus and the disciples in the bible pray for countless people no matter their belief and cures them. I believe praying for you will make a difference in your life
User avatar #154 to #125 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
The Bible is pretty clear that people who have never heard the word of Christ won't go to Hell since they can't submit if they don't know. It's the same reason that people who died before Christ didn't go to Hell.

But why spread the belief if you're inevitably dooming those people to Hell? It would be better to have few people know so more people go to heaven, wouldn't it? I don't understand why you would spread the word and risk having good people go to Hell.

So praying will get God to make an exception for a good man not to go to Hell?
User avatar #119 to #116 - sneleoparden (03/08/2014) [-]
no I want everyone to know what I know because it gives me so much more, which is why I really want other's to experience what I have. towards prayer, it is only encouraged in the bible to pray for others no matter who they are and what situation they are in. It even encourages to pray for your enemies. but I know it's way out of the comfort zone, and I know that it's hard to believe, but on the other hand I'm not requiring you to do anything but to just allow me to pray for you, if my God is dead then you won't experience anything new. So all in all what do you have to loose?
User avatar #120 to #119 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
But if people don't know about Christianity then they don't go to Hell, so why tell anyone? Why not just worship in peace and let them go about their lives?

I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm saying that, assuming everything you believe is right, it will change nothing. God won't spare me just because you ask him to, so why bother?
#102 to #97 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
I think you should be reminded of something.
#108 to #102 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
>implying I'm Atheist to be a rebel or a punk
>implying I'm white
>implying hijabs are punk and rebellious
User avatar #110 to #108 - majormayor (03/08/2014) [-]
***** , you shouldn't put yourself on a pedestal for being atheist. You're nothing really remarkable, especially in your own cynical views.
#112 to #110 - nigeltheoutlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm not putting myself on a pedestal, and I realize I'm nothing extraordinary. I even said as much in a previous comment in this thread.

Also,
>not believing something with zero proof
>means I'm cynical
User avatar #117 to #110 - klaes (03/08/2014) [-]
He's being overly condescending in how he's handling the argument, but I wouldn't say he's putting himself on a pedestal. Also, asking for proof isn't being cynical it's being rational.
User avatar #40 - angelious ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
a buddhist?
#84 - chaoticlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
I'm only now realizing just how philosophical FJ can be.    
   
It''s pretty 			*******		 impressive.
I'm only now realizing just how philosophical FJ can be.

It''s pretty ******* impressive.
User avatar #214 to #84 - swagawesome (03/08/2014) [-]
i now realize how ******* stupid you are .
User avatar #219 to #214 - reaversoulstealer (03/08/2014) [-]
You don't talk about my ******* senpai like that.

I'll ******* end you ***** .

1v1 me, cunt.
#216 to #214 - chaoticlaw (03/08/2014) [-]
That's mean...
That's mean...
#230 to #216 - implosay ONLINE (03/09/2014) [-]
There there, it'll be okay lil 			*****		. Here, have a better version of that gif.
There there, it'll be okay lil ***** . Here, have a better version of that gif.
User avatar #220 to #216 - swagawesome (03/08/2014) [-]
Your offended, well i mean it you faggot
#104 to #84 - givememoarpony (03/08/2014) [-]
**givememoarpony rolled a random image posted in comment #215213 at Hating - file complaints, whine, airline complaints, rustle jimmies **

>badminton balls have faces, have asses, can feel their asses as if ****** by them, and are produced in factories

we don't need to research ai! we just need more animated badminton balls! that way we can cut gubmint spending too!
User avatar #113 to #84 - reican (03/08/2014) [-]
also, at the first glance we're a bunch of morons, but at times we can be really smart morons with dreams.
User avatar #85 to #84 - reaversoulstealer (03/08/2014) [-]
Faget.
#192 - ephialtes (03/08/2014) [-]
I can't remember who said it but there's a quote that goes:
"I'd rather live my whole life believing that there is a God only to die and find out there isn't one, than to live my whole life as if there isn't a God, only to die and find out there is one"
And I have to say, I agree.
#198 to #192 - dehnoobshow (03/08/2014) [-]
I, personally, would argue with said god when I get there. ''Well, if you wanted us to believe in you, you should have made it more obvious. There's 8 other religions. What did you expect?''
I'm not faithless because ''Hurr durr **** christianity hurr durr *tips fedora*'' It's because I notice there's multiple religions with multiple gods... Which one is correct? Which one is the actual one? There's even extinct religions that no longer exist, what if one of those were the right one?

tl;dr, 80% of the world is going to hell, I don't give a **** anyways.
+1
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#43 - beerterror (03/08/2014) [-]
An idiot.
User avatar #48 to #43 - mrdavidamnesia (03/08/2014) [-]
We're talking anon, not you.
#50 to #48 - beerterror (03/08/2014) [-]
Briliant!
User avatar #51 to #50 - mrdavidamnesia (03/08/2014) [-]
XD Goddammit....
#183 - redbannerman (03/08/2014) [-]
I believe that there is an outside force out there controlling everything, or at least has a hand in everything. It's the only thing that really makes sense to me. You can look at people and say we evolved with apes, fine. You can say that man never walked with dinosaurs, fine. Yet when I look up, and then back down to my hands I realize something. How the **** could this EVER happen by chance? How can I contemplate my existence when most other creatures on this earth simply live to eat, sleep, make babies and poop? Why is it that music can bring people to tears or bring them to a frenzy even without words? How can we find scenery beautiful? Evolution obviously has nothing to do with that. THAT is why I believe in a higher power of sorts. Simply because I can believe.
User avatar #194 - nightmareschild (03/08/2014) [-]
Buddhist actually.
#182 - smoshanthony (03/08/2014) [-]
**smoshanthony rolled a random image posted in comment #35 at Hnnnng **
What the afterlife is
#25 - masterPlol (03/08/2014) [-]
I am not a big fan of quotes but (It is translated, the orginal is in german):
"I don't think that there is a life after death, I'm not such a pessimist."

And here, have this "beautiful" but totally unrelated picture.
#201 to #25 - thefunnyside (03/08/2014) [-]
Why would life after death be considered pessimism?
User avatar #224 - proudbrony (03/08/2014) [-]
aokusername
this is a mention
#211 - spanishninja ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
User avatar #180 - elcreepo (03/08/2014) [-]
I believe that we don't know for certain what happens when we die, but that the likely hood of just becoming nothing is pretty high. What does this make me?
#209 to #180 - Overlegion (03/08/2014) [-]
An agnostic atheist. You readily accept that there's a level of certainty that just can't be achieved when it comes the knowledge of death, but you also recognize that the knowledge we do have points pretty favorably towards there being no afterlife.
#91 - superbigfupa (03/08/2014) [-]
**superbigfupa rolled a random image posted in comment #242 at Test out beta.funnyjunk.com yet again ** what happens after death
**superbigfupa rolled a random image posted in comment #242 at Test out beta.funnyjunk.com yet again ** what happens after death
#21 - laxwarriord (03/08/2014) [-]
I believe that there is something after death, i just dont pretend to even start to understand what. I simply believe that if i live a life thats worth living on after death, then there's nothing wrong with it, it makes me a better person in the process.
#83 - wetpantslol (03/08/2014) [-]
**wetpantslol rolled a random image posted in comment #2 at (untitled) **






If there's an afterlife, I want it to be exactly like this
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#35 - Rascal (03/08/2014) [-]
I'll try to make this as brief as I can because I know that many of you won't believe me.
I don't know exactly what our afterlife is going to be, but I know there is something. I was in 2 comas and coded three times. After code #2, they couldn't revive me. They gave up, closed my (still) open eyes, and covered me up. After about a minute later, I gasped and started "miraculously" breathing again. I did NOT see a bright light (that I believe is neurons firing, waning brain activity, etc.) loved ones, or any of the stuff that people usually describe. I saw something else. I WAS somewhere else. It is very personal, so I won't share that part, but there is a destination of sorts. Also know that when you do pass, you may be offered a choice. Keep the "choice" thing in mind.
User avatar #96 to #35 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account** (03/08/2014) [-]
out of curiosity, what do you mean by choices? A choice of destination or what?
User avatar #204 to #96 - ugottanked (03/08/2014) [-]
i would assume he does mean a choice of destination
#195 to #35 - ephialtes (03/08/2014) [-]
That's actually really interesting.
Never heard an account like that before.
#200 to #35 - thefunnyside (03/08/2014) [-]
You mean like Kylar Stern?
User avatar #206 to #35 - lapsushominum (03/08/2014) [-]
Thing is that when you're in a coma you are still alive, so it's not like you're seeing an afterlife, but products of your own mind.
#60 to #35 - lolsrsslybro (03/08/2014) [-]
wat
#185 to #35 - blokrokker ONLINE (03/08/2014) [-]
A choice? I choose cake.
A choice? I choose cake.
#81 to #35 - telfyr (03/08/2014) [-]
So did you choose the red pill or blue pill?
User avatar #227 to #81 - cryingchicken (03/08/2014) [-]
Obviously blue pill, that's why he's back.
User avatar #208 - bitey (03/08/2014) [-]
I had an asthma attack a few years ago and was legally dead for a few moments. Nothing happened. No heaven, no hell, no limbo or ghosties. It's like falling asleep and not having a dream.
#218 to #208 - ExorArgus (03/08/2014) [-]
The problem with legally being alive or legally dead is that technically a jello dessert would give a sufficient reading on a EEG to not have its life support removed.
User avatar #213 to #208 - swagawesome (03/08/2014) [-]
Too bad you didn't die you gluttonous ****** .
User avatar #217 to #213 - bitey (03/08/2014) [-]
I did tho.
I got better
#215 to #208 - betaguy (03/08/2014) [-]
that's actually pretty scary....to me at least...
that's actually pretty scary....to me at least...
#78 - breastestvillainy **User deleted account** (03/08/2014) [-]
I don't ponder on those thoughts much. But if I had to say which one sounds like the least amount of ******** , I'd lean towards reincarnation.
User avatar #126 to #78 - fifteensecondchug (03/08/2014) [-]
That image looks like Arin from Game Grumps and Egoraptor
User avatar #128 to #126 - breastestvillainy **User deleted account** (03/08/2014) [-]
That's because it is.
It's actually taken from one of the Game Grumps animations. I can't remember which one, though.
User avatar #139 to #128 - fifteensecondchug (03/08/2014) [-]
Fantastic. I like it.
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