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#4 to #2 - wotterpatch (04/27/2014) [-]
why did i get a feel from this
#8 to #4 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
because the Empire is really the good side, you're waking up from the Rebel propoganda
#7 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
So many died that day. Those were people's sons and husbands. The Empire did nothing wrong except Alderran but we don't talk about that
User avatar #9 to #7 - iliketires (04/27/2014) [-]
They were about to blow up Yavin 4.
User avatar #10 to #9 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
WERE THEY THOUGH? Or was that what the Alliance would like you to think?!
Just kidding, but what was their goal, to silence the rebellion? Is that so terrible? If the rebellion didn't exist, the Empire wouldn't have needed excessive force, and would be a pretty good ruler of a unified galaxy.

I know in some EU books it says they had slave camps for Wookies, but technically that's not all canon anymore depending on what it is, so I like to think they were pretty good except for the fact that they took control by force.
User avatar #11 to #10 - iliketires (04/27/2014) [-]
Oh I'm not saying the Empire were inherently bad, and the tragic loss of life on the Death Star was horrible, but I honestly think no should should have the power to blow up planets. That's too much power. I think the Rebels did something good destroying it.
User avatar #12 to #11 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
Yeah you're right, but think about it, if the rebels hadn't created an uprising, would there be any need for it except for defending the galaxy's citizens? imagine if an enemy were to attack that could overpower them in normal warfare, a few death stars would wreck anything no matter how advanced.

I mean I guess I'm just justifying the creation of it, but in reality you're obviously right that it's too much power.
User avatar #17 to #10 - theshadowed (04/27/2014) [-]
Well if them silencing the Rebellion includes the destruction of one of the oldest and advanced planets in the galaxy (Alderaan) and all of its people, then yes it pretty ******* terrible
User avatar #21 to #17 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
Well they wouldn't have to have used excessive force if the terrorist Alliance hadn't attacked the Empire to try to overthrow it now would they?

keep in mind I fully appreciate how terrible the things the Empire did were, but I just like looking at it from their perspective because in some cases it can actually feel like they meant well.
#51 to #21 - excessive (04/27/2014) [-]
i dont even use force brah
stop being mean to me
User avatar #52 to #51 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
my use of 'excessive' is getting a bit excessive
#13 to #7 - Rascal (04/27/2014) [-]
The clone troopers were nobody's sons or daughters, fathers or mothers. Just a ton of identical ************ .
User avatar #16 to #13 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
Dude, do you even Stur Wurs? The battle of Yavin was long after the birth of the Empire, long enough after it that the Emperor had stopped using clones because the new military model was to pump out a lot of trained soldiers, and recruiting and using mercenaries did that job the best, with less quality but more quantity. There were so few clones at that point that they were a tiny minority. Only the 501st legion had clones left in it, but that's because they were Vader's personal force and he needed the best. Lots of peoples sons and husbands died that day
User avatar #18 to #16 - threeeighteen (04/27/2014) [-]
Nuuuuuuuuuuurd. But seriously, I was surprised when I learnt there was more to Star Wars then the movies.
User avatar #20 to #18 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
Well yeah, but I actually really don't like most of the stuff I hear about that "expanded universe" is what it's called. What i was talking about is still all from the films, just not directly pointed out. Also it was announced that almost all of the out-of-movie stuff is not canon, it's not really part of the story anymore which I'm glad, since most of it sounded ridiculous and kind of messed with the movies.
User avatar #25 to #20 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
it's still canon, it's just...Basically it'll overlap. Like they'll probably end up mentioning EU stuff here and there, In fact all they really said was that the new movies wouldn't be a direct adaptation of anything like Thrawn or the YV war or the dark nest crisis.

Also, "In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s."

So...from that they basically said it's still canon, and the stories could be mentioned in the new canon stuff or the movies.
User avatar #53 to #25 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
ah, okay I didn't read the whole thing I just skimmed the article and gathered from all of the angry comments that most of it was being scrapped.
User avatar #55 to #53 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
yeah, most of the people pissed off about it just misunderstood it...it's like they stopped reading after the first sentence.
User avatar #56 to #55 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
haha yeah. When I saw the news on facebook I was on the go, so that's basically what I did, I skimmed it and assumed that's what they meant. That's good for both ways then, but what's going to happen with some of the stuff like the YV war or whatever came after episode 6, what do you mean by it won't be a direct adaption? Is it still canon that the emperor came back as a clone and luke served under him for a bit and all that jazz?
I'm just wondering because I have no idea where they'll start episode 7 from or what they'll reference that had happened before episode 7.
User avatar #57 to #56 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
Like...You know how the first sin city movie was an adaptation of the comics? Basically that's not going to happen with the star wars sequel trilogy, it's a completely original story, and stuff after RoTJ will most likely be mentioned through out the canon, whether it be the movies or comics or whatever. Like...for example at any point, luke, han, leia, etc could make a reference to the thrawn campaign or the YV-war.
User avatar #58 to #57 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
Oh, wow. so basically most (all?) of the EU is still canon, they're just announcing that the next movies won't be of those EU things that come after Ep 6?
User avatar #60 to #58 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
honestly the only thing I can completely see being totally written out is the whole holiday special from 1978 probably under the request of lucas.
User avatar #59 to #58 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
pretty much, i mean the new movies start in 34ABY, so...yeah.
User avatar #61 to #59 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
Ah, and that's after all of that stuff? I wouldn't know I forgot when the YZ stuff or other things were when I heard about them.
Anyway I don't get why that was a surprise to people, I kind of expected them to do an original movie with still a background connection to the EU, which I already stated I'm a little meh on some of the stories I heard of, but I don't really mind either way. I never expected though for them to make an adaption of an EU story. Those are just my thoughts on it though.
User avatar #62 to #61 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
pretty much. specifically the new movie starts about 5 years after the end of the YV- war, what i'm curious about is how they're going to handle the second galactic war.
User avatar #63 to #62 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
ooh, would that take place after the new movie timeline?
sorry for all of these questions, my EU knowledge is next to zilch so I didn't even know there was a second galactic war.
#64 to #63 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
it depends on when they want to do the sequels to episode 7, the second GCW started in 40 ABY. it actually caused the entire galaxy imperial and republic alike against a single threat, This ************ .
User avatar #65 to #64 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
really? strange, was he an overpowered sith or what?

also... the glorious Galactic Empire comes back? or is it like the Old Republic like just a new Sith Empire?
User avatar #66 to #65 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
It's one of Han and leia's sons, Jacen Solo. He ended up falling to the dark side to save the galaxy from a terrible darkness, which ironically, his actions ended up releasing an ancient evil that's been around for as long as the father, daughter, and son on mortis, and nearly caused a galaxy wide apocalypse. He did it so that he could ensure his daughter would become the jedi queen or something and unify the galaxy. "In 41 ABY, shortly before his death, Darth Caedus/jacen solo had a vision of his daughter Allana as a tall young woman standing in the middle of a large crowd of mixed species in front of a large white throne, unifying the galaxy. This contrasted his previous vision at the Pool of Knowledge during his travels, where he saw the Dark Man on the Throne of Balance—with Allana standing at his side. This vision was the catalyst for Jacen's eventual transformation into Caedus: Jacen ended his travels immediately after the vision, determined to change what he saw. The vision he had of Allana on the white throne was proof that Caedus succeeded in changing the future, but by doing so he released Abeloth, the Bringer of Chaos."

the empire stayed around for a while after episode 6, in fact they never really went away, they just weren't under the influence of the sith. In fact they pretty much just did their own thing after the first GCW ended in 19 ABY. they even co-operated with the new republic/jedi order, I mean yeah there were still assholes like Natasi Daala, but for the most part they were co-existing peacefully with the new republic.

User avatar #67 to #66 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
Oh wow, that's pretty cool.
Also that's really interesting to hear that the empire lasted a while longer, because that's what I assumed but I never knew about it.
Just out of curiosity, do you know what happened right after the Battle of Endor in regards to the Empire?
User avatar #69 to #67 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
sometime between 44ABY and 130ABY*
User avatar #68 to #67 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
they were still in power up until 11ABY, when the new republic liberated coruscant from the empire, from there they were fractured and continued as the imperial remnant. hell, the empire returned like it was earlier, except it wasn't evil, sometime before 130ABY as the Fel empire they ended up fighting the one sith by this time. hell, even the 501st was reinstated, albeit they were all recruits and stuff, no clones.
User avatar #70 to #68 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
that's awesome, do you think it's going to be another pair of trilogy movies or just a new trilogy? I forgot if they mentioned that
User avatar #26 to #20 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
although i could be wrong, but that's what I got from the article.
User avatar #71 to #16 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
comment reply reached, Anyway it's possible, they plan on doing a boba fett movie, as well as a yoda movie, and they did say they want to do 40 years of star wars, so...yeah maybe.
User avatar #72 to #71 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
yeah I heard a rumor about a boba fett movie, that would be cool. I wonder if that's one of the reasons they decided to not complete 1313.
User avatar #73 to #72 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
actually i think that was due to disney not wanting an M-rated star wars game...which....doesn't make sense since BF is going to be an FPS/TPS
User avatar #74 to #73 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
Well I hope that's not the case, was Battlefront 2 M though? because Battlefron 1 was T, so maybe it's still going to be T.

Also I think that's a stupid reason not to make a game, I really hate how so many things like films especially are starting to only be PG-13 or PG just because there's guaranteed to be a bigger audience. Oh well...
User avatar #75 to #74 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
meh, money's a bitch. and honestly by today's standards, i personally think BFII should have been M-rated.
User avatar #76 to #75 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
I thought M was usually based on gore, and then nudity/language and with a game just based on laser munitions, it's easy to avoid gore.
I do know though that the weird AI of the Rebels is creepy where they shoot your friend down and keep shooting his corpse with a pistol with their head reared back to look you in the eye while they do it, is creepy enough for M.
User avatar #77 to #76 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
nah, Halo's only gory parts are the Flood, yet they took them out in reach and reach was still rated M. in all honestly Halo should just be rated T, but...meh i like it the way it is. If they wanted to, DICE, EA, Visceral, ETC could all go for an M-rating. Hell, Republic commando should be Rated M by today's standards, I mean you get to commit infanticide, stab **** , you can get your visor covered in blood, there's tons of blood...so...yeah.
User avatar #78 to #77 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
yeah you're right, Republic Commando was pretty gory. ******* trandoshans.
Although in the Halo games when you shoot, somehow blood sprays out of the armor, at least in Halo 3 and I think Reach and Halo 4 as well, I mean it's so small it's hardly noticeable, but that's always why I thought it was M, because companies are super strict on any blood being M.
User avatar #79 to #78 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
and it is, but i mean...in halo 3 you can bash a flood and it'll explode screaming...
#80 to #79 - thepandaking (04/28/2014) [-]
oh yeah you're right, but still, Reach had that too, and there's always purple Covenant blood.   
I don't know, I hope the battlefront reboot goes well, I don't have  any negative expectations for it except that EA could possibly rush it, but I doubt that considering they're making an effort to wait for the movie to come out. Anyway I have a paper that I haven't been writing so I'll have to actually do that. Good chat, thanks for the info man
oh yeah you're right, but still, Reach had that too, and there's always purple Covenant blood.
I don't know, I hope the battlefront reboot goes well, I don't have any negative expectations for it except that EA could possibly rush it, but I doubt that considering they're making an effort to wait for the movie to come out. Anyway I have a paper that I haven't been writing so I'll have to actually do that. Good chat, thanks for the info man
#81 to #80 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
good luck on the paper.
good luck on the paper.
User avatar #36 to #7 - thebrownydestroyer **User deleted account** (04/27/2014) [-]
That's what I didn't really get about that moment, they literally blew up a whole planet along with millions and millions of people, yet none of the soldiers gave a **** . You would think at least one of them would lift his head and just mumble to the dude next to him "dude what the **** are we doing, doesn't Derek's mom live there?"
User avatar #54 to #36 - thepandaking (04/27/2014) [-]
That's always made me wonder too, I try to think of everything from the Empire's point of view but like that was pretty terrible. Maybe all of the soldiers were told that most of the population were rebels and that destroying the planet would end the war, like kind of a shock and awe strategy to put an end to the civil war. That's the only way the troopers wouldn't feel ****** about that I think
User avatar #86 to #54 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
as far as canon stuff goes there was at least one person on the death star who gave a **** and even helped a bunch of people escape, sadly he died on the death star when luke blew it up.
User avatar #87 to #86 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
helped people escape Alderran?

and see? Luke blew up good men too. not that it wasn't a completely necessary act of war
User avatar #88 to #87 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
escape the death star
User avatar #89 to #88 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
oh, you're saying after they blew up alderran, the trooper helped people leave the death star?

or while the death star was under attack, helped save people from dying in it?

I just got confused because my last comment was more talking about if the troopers were low on morale or questioning the destruction of alderran
User avatar #90 to #89 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
the first one, he basically helped them defect.
User avatar #91 to #90 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
oh okay that makes sense though. I always assumed the soldiers were all just brainwashed to think that it was for the best, which I'm sure most of them were, but it makes sense that some cared
User avatar #92 to #91 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
incidentally i think it was a librarian that did it too, the helping of the defection
User avatar #93 to #92 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
it took me a second to think of the death star as having more than just storm troopers and engineers on it lol. I always just see the engineers/stormtroopers and higher ranking people in my head when I think of the people that died in it
User avatar #94 to #93 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
yeah, it was a pretty cool battle station when you think about it.
User avatar #95 to #94 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
this is somewhat off topic and kind of stupid/lame, but to get back into writing I've started writing a short story on the scout troopers that died on Endor, and as a perspective of things from the Empire's point of view, but that's why I had thought about that Alderran thing because sure the death star and all of the troopers dying is a tragedy for the Imperial troops, it's hard to mentally defend blowing up Alderran or Yavin 4
User avatar #96 to #95 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
And it was for the most part. Not to mention the money that was wasted on it. although I assume the emperor had some form of insurance on it, if it even exists in the star wars universe.
User avatar #97 to #96 - thepandaking (04/29/2014) [-]
yeah, but I mean it's easy to depict the death star blowing up as a tragedy, I just thought it was kind of funny when I tried to think about how mass destruction of a planet and the planned mass destruction of another was justifiable. The only thing that comes to mind is the reason the US nuked Japan, to attempt to put an end to the war
User avatar #98 to #97 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/29/2014) [-]
pretty much.
User avatar #42 to #36 - harbingerwolf (04/27/2014) [-]
Arent most of them still clones?
User avatar #43 to #42 - finni (04/27/2014) [-]
No, only Vader's first was the only Clone Army left
User avatar #44 to #43 - harbingerwolf (04/27/2014) [-]
I thought most of the other storm troopers were clones just not based off of Jango?
User avatar #45 to #44 - finni (04/27/2014) [-]
No, that's the clone army. Stormtroopers are mostly free men who enlisted into the army. The Emperor changed this after the Clone Rebellion on Kaminoo.
User avatar #46 to #45 - harbingerwolf (04/27/2014) [-]
Ooooh, thanks.
#48 to #46 - finni (04/27/2014) [-]
You're welcome
User avatar #38 to #36 - hourlyb (04/27/2014) [-]
Several soldiers and pilots actually defected once Alderran was destroyed, but most believed that Alderran was a threat to the Empire, and would have to pay.
#22 to #19 - doctorcamden (04/27/2014) [-]
Jesus ******* Christ this comic.
#24 to #22 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
jesus ******* christ darth vader in general
#30 to #19 - kahoshi (04/27/2014) [-]
That moment when you realize disney retconned the star wars expanded universe...
User avatar #83 to #30 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
it's still canon, it's just...Basically it'll overlap. Like they'll probably end up mentioning EU stuff here and there, In fact all they really said was that the new movies wouldn't be a direct adaptation of anything like Thrawn or the YV war or the dark nest crisis.

Also, "In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s."

So...from that they basically said it's still canon, and the stories could be mentioned in the new canon stuff or the movies.
#5 - zourch (04/27/2014) [-]
never forghetti
User avatar #40 to #5 - rihardololz ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
Boston Bombing Parody
#50 to #5 - sulins (04/27/2014) [-]
that looks delicious
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#15 - soullessminion ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
#3 - Rascal (04/27/2014) [-]
It would be better if it had all the names on it's surface.
#29 - Rascal (04/27/2014) [-]
Can we have a monument for the waffen SS, too? Or for the gulag personal? Fallen KKK members?
#14 - guardianranger (04/27/2014) [-]
"We understand you are grieving Vader. However... You haven't payed on the uh.. 'death' ball since it was destroyed."
User avatar #34 - Gandalfthewhite (04/27/2014) [-]
when you think about it destroying the death star must have killed millions of people in one go. Moral grey area right there
User avatar #82 to #34 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
it really did...atr least 900,000 +were on the damn thing.
User avatar #84 to #82 - Gandalfthewhite (04/28/2014) [-]
i bet luke felt like the guys who dropped the nukes on japan, but a whole ton worse
User avatar #85 to #84 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/28/2014) [-]
I think he actually expresses remorse at one point over that.
#33 - mytwocents (04/27/2014) [-]
> destroys a planet-killing superweapon in a scifi
> protects and uses a planet-killing superweapon in another scifi
User avatar #39 to #33 - ScottP (04/27/2014) [-]
>escapes from Arkham Asylum and is generally a pain in Batman's ass
#32 - mytwocents (04/27/2014) [-]
needless to say, but
THE JEWS DID IT.
#31 - datmine (04/27/2014) [-]
only good star wars themed thing i have
hey in the others the storm troopers are getting ass raped by space marines
#6 - Rascal (04/27/2014) [-]
Darth Vader wouldn't of cared in the way shown.
User avatar #28 to #6 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
actually contrary to popular belief, the man actually cared a lot about his stormtroopers, the imperial officers were usually incompetent with the exception of admiral piett, and maybe tarkin, the rest he didn't really give a **** about.
User avatar #35 to #6 - xxhadesflamesxx (04/27/2014) [-]
his troopers were under his command since the clone wars so i think he would care about them
User avatar #1 - lorddarkskull (04/26/2014) [-]
Disney wrote Mara Jade out of existence ;_;7
User avatar #27 to #1 - huntergriff ONLINE (04/27/2014) [-]
In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s.
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